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1. 1Apr 9, 2025
   Board of County CommissionersR31Regular businessApproved

   Commission on the Status of Women – Toni Zetzche – Appointment Connected City, Village of Nomination – No Funding Required Pasadena Hills, and Pasco 2050 Discussion

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   Approved to have a Public Safety Chaplain do the prayer and if for some reason they could not make it that they would use Commissioner Starkey’s prayer effective April 22nd.

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   StarkeyChair

   1:01:08Okay, we are on to R thank you, J J P um We are on to the regular agenda and we have R thirty one.

   1:01:23Good morning.

   David Engel

   1:01:25Good morning, Madam Chair. How are you today? My name is David Engel. I am the Planning and Economic Development Director. We have a very timely informational presentation today for through a variety of topics. For the purpose of time management, I just wanted to review them with the board, let them know what's going to be coming up and who's going to be speaking. We're talking about Connected City, V OPH, and the mobility fee study and the PASCO 2050 discussion. It's our intention to spend the predominant amount of time for this agenda

   1:01:55item to focus on Connected City. What we're going to do is we're going to invite Metro Development up here for a very brief presentation because they are the largest developer at this time within Connect. Connected City. Then Mr. William Vermilion, he's our MPUD Senior Planner Lead. He's going to provide a report card as to where we stand with Connected City deliverables. We're going to have particular emphasis on the entitlement study because there's been a lot of questions on entitlements, the parts

   1:02:26that have been delivered in Connected City to date, and also a very concise overview of. on the road system and our capacity analysis. Uh the next two items are going to be just for very brief informational purposes. Uh Terry Pitos, our Planning Services Director, he's going to be presenting where we're at with the VOPH study to give the board an a sense of when they're we're going to be complete in front of the board with that study. Also where we are with the mobility fee study that we do

   1:02:56uh every several years. And lastly, uh Hyatt Mazzilli, our senior planner lead on PASCO 2050, is going to provide a uh Gantt chart and let you know exactly when you're gonna be able to see and review the uh 2050 plan. We are approaching adoption this year, and we want to give the board confidence that there'll be ample time for public and board input. So at this uh juncture I'd like to um invite Mr. Gianni up from Metro Development

   1:03:26to provide his uh overview. It'll be about five minutes and then and then we're gonna have plenty of time for Q ⁇ A at the tail end of this presentation. Thank you.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:03:40Good morning commissioners. Good morning everyone. Um I guess I drew the lucky straw here. I'm honored to be here to represent everyone That's part of the connected city planning area that was connected uh that was created a long long time back and the conversation started obviously with the chatter online I think discussions and Staff said, Hey, why did we even create Connected City? This was ten years back. Maybe just

   1:04:10time to go back and see what was the goal, what were we trying to do? And more importantly, was it a good idea? All along. I don't know. I don't have all the answers. Um So I'm going to do my best to walk you through the journey we went on ten years back and the thinking behind it. So it it was year 2014 how it started. If you all kind of look at the map, this connected city in the area to I-75 is

   1:04:40kind of on the west side. The north is State Road 52. It wasn't the State Road 52 we drive on today with the four-lane divided highway. It was a two-lane, undivided, that kind of jogged which is now the County Road 52. To the south. There were a lot of communities, regular communities that were built. There was no exit at Overpass. Curly Road was two lanes. And Right at that time the discussion

   1:05:10kept coming up everywhere, mostly led by then County Administrator, Also based on a Urban Land Institute study that the county had commissioned during the downturn. in two thousand eight and which was we need jobs in Pasco County. There's Pasco County is a at that time, was a bedroom community By some estimates, I think of ULI estimates, there were f seventy thousand cars heading south every day. and something

   1:05:41needed to change. I'm gonna quickly summarize What got us thinking? Uh when we read the ULI study, so it was it was a large one, these are just some of the findings from there. We didn't commission it, the county commissioned this. It said fifty percent of workers live the count leave the county every workday. To change that Create a priority development area. along I seventy five. That was one of the recommendations. Focus on economic development

   1:06:11and tourism. Use health care as an economic engine. Great high paying jobs. That's what the state needs, the country needs. But oops, there was a funding shortfall of fourteen billion dollars for transportation infrastructure. And I say by the way, if you can overcome all the things above Do focus on fiber internet availability because that is the future on creating something awesome. There was only one problem at that time. This was talk Uh

   1:06:42we owned y you can you can see it a little bit here to the south, a portion of Epperson, portion of Merara, which is around thirty percent of what is now the connected city. And I guess we were naive enough to at that time ask the question, raise her hand, And say How can we help? There's a fork in the road, either we can continue and Just to set the stage. We had our entitlements and approvals already. We could have just built

   1:07:12a regular community and gone home and gone and done other. things throughout the state that we do. We raised our hands and The smart people at the county said, Yeah, we have a fork in the roar Either we can continue doing what we do And then one day we're gonna die just like the dinosaurs because it's going to stay as a bedroom community. with the cookie cutter housing, which none of you like. Or we can change and the idea was why

   1:07:43don't we create Again, the Connected City is just a placeholder name, but the idea was why don't we create a new town from the internet up? that becomes an economic engine That attracts the jobs, it gets the health care, it gets the fiber connectivity. And by the way, the funding infrastructure. a shortfall that everyone's talking about. I don't know, maybe ask those private guys to pay up a little bit more. than what they were paying in impact fee. And we're like,

   1:08:13oh that's great but you know, we could do all of this But no one is going to come to this area unless we put it on the national and international map. So that's how the idea was born. I'm gonna show you a quick video. I don't know why the audio is not playing. If someone could help with that. Uh

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:08:42But let's try it again.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:08:44Perfect. Let's go.

   1:08:59It just it's not on this.

   StarkeyChair

   1:09:08That town made life. We need the video though. Okay.

   1:09:16Perfect. There you go.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:09:21Anyway, you kind of talked. A place where all is connected. Where businesses sprout and prosper, and ideas take shape at the speed of light.

   1:09:37That place then generates energy. And it makes spinning around over easy. What if the core of that town was built on education and ideas? A place where the world's smartest minds teach our children. Yeah. Brainstorm?

   StarkeyChair

   1:09:58Car Drake, is this video from before or is this a new video from the right?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:10:03What the smartest thing you ever did.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:10:08This is the video we were using to get Companies, other developers excited to fall behind the plan because obviously it came with a big, big price tag. I can go to the next slide, it's the pointer's not moving, sorry.

   1:10:24And so when we looked at it and we said what would create something truly spectacular that would put This area and Casco County on the national and international map. And we asked all the smart people, and when I say smart people, uh all of these ideas are not ours. We met with county staff, we met with other stakeholders, we had neighborhood workshops, we asked other landowners, we went outside and traveled extensively to see what were making other places successful. And

   1:10:54the common theme was you need to tackle infrastructure, but also plan for future roadways and options where you can take cars off the road. You need world class amenities because without that people are not going to show up and you need that big wow. for people to look at something on the internet and say, Maybe I should go check this out. Oh. No family is going to move without amazing schools there. So education was a key

   1:11:24pillar. Health and wellness is something we truly, truly believed in because

   1:11:31We thought if we're building a new town from the internet app, we want to be able to help people live healthier but also live longer. So that was a pillar. We talked about fiber connectivity and and 10 gig fiber ultra fast. Parks and twells. We want people to be outside. That's a big part of recreation. More importantly, Could we create an economic engine that goes on for the next 50 years, something that lives beyond the first developer,

   1:12:01which was us that originated the idea, or the county staff, or the commission, and it's a good plan for 50 years. And lastly, we said, all that sounds great, but what we have seen is all great ideas die, especially when they're pilots, when the people that were involved with it for the first ten years end up leaving and there's no money left to do anything. So we set aside separate funds and we'll talk about those as well as we go through that. So

   1:12:32again the goal was everyone focused on the physical infrastructure. But we realized that along with the highways, you also have to focus on the eyeways. We're living in the eye generation, need a big focus on connectivity. So that's the digital infrastructure. But most importantly, And I fabric. is people hanging out, the social infrastructure, neighbor meeting neighbors, And how do we create that in an area at that time was just cowland.

   1:13:03There was nothing around it Um So that was the challenge. As I said, so we started talking. Pasco EDC quickly came to the board with great ideas. other business leaders throughout Tampa Bay, also started weighing in during this process. And it turned into something exciting. And Everyone said, why do something only for two projects? Which is the land we had. Let's think big. And that is what led to creating this

   1:13:33special planning area. Which just happens to be around 7800 acres because to the west is the natural boundary with I-75. To the north was the existing fifty two, South Overpass to be completed with no exit, but with a plan, and then Curley Road on the east, because to the east of that the county had approved already villages of Pasadena Hills, with a long term plan. So that was a great foundation to start thinking.

   1:14:03And the other goal on non-residential at that point going back to two thousand and thirteen. Uh County, so I'm talking about countywide, not just one small area. There was three hundred thousand square feet. of new commercial in twenty thirteen. only three hundred thousand square feet. That's why we were called a bedroom community. So as we started laying out the goals for a fifty year plan, Well like yeah, where should we start? Maybe this small area in

   1:14:34the county Should have ten times the commercial. That would be a great goal. Like let's focus for three million square feet. And as we started talking, It was that would be too small of a goal. Let's go something that is very ambitious. It's okay if we don't get there. But why don't we do something that's fifty times what the entire county does in one year And that's how we ended up with a number of twelve point eight million square feet, fifty times in one area of what the entire county

   1:15:04saw in 2013. And that set the stage. That was a very bold and inspirational idea. And Sorry, going backwards. And the state quickly bought got behind it, and in 2015, Senator Simpson said, This is a great idea. We should try this because what's the worst? If it doesn't work out, We won't do it again. If it works out, hopefully others see this as an example. and do it

   1:15:34in other parts of the state. The state created Senate Bill twelve twelve sixteen, which was passed into law, The Board of County Commissioners. uh approved a resolution establishing the general area and that let's all work together. And then we had Pasco E D C also helping out on thinking through that. So I'm going to go back, walk you through just very, very high level on each of the items, and I can pause any time you would like me to. That

   1:16:05Entire thought process was to attract employers, large companies, or any large user, they need certainty with a solid infrastructure plan. And that infrastructure plan is based around cars, autonomous vehicles, golf carts, bikes, e-bikes, and all other forms of transportation. And that was the map that was adap adopted at that point in time. And the good thing is ten years later Everyone, regardless of

   1:16:35whether you opt in or opt out, which is more of a technicality on the process you follow. you still have to follow the foundational map that exists. Overpass Road was literally an overpass

   1:16:50which is now a new interchange. Some of the fundings from Connected City surcharges and impact fee had to be committed to accelerate that. State Route fifty two, one Senate Bill twelve sixteen was passed, The state said our investment in this area is going to be to accelerate. State Route fifty two and create a brand new four lane divided highway, that is going to encourage economic growth, which is kind of what you see there. We started laying. Dark

   1:17:22fiber accessible to everyone with speeds that can go up to 10 gigs as soon as we started the physical infrastructure. We call that UltraFi. It's set up that any other users that come in can do their own or can tap into it without having to tear up the streets. That was very, very key to the thinking. World class amenities. You've all heard the lagoon, seen the legumes, and I'll tell you the honest reason we did the lagoon. It was A wild, crazy

   1:17:53idea. But we knew when you plan something that is bold and aspirational It's hard for the outside world to read a textbook on a plan and get excited about it. And we thought what would get people excited is if they see some really cool pictures and they're like, I have to go check it out and we knew that once people came to check it out they would want to move here, live here and work here. So we invested in building the first lagoon in the country and then doubled down

   1:18:23and opened up the largest lagoon in the country. I'm going to pause there, but some people just call it a community amenity, a swimming pool. It isn't that. The between the two lagoons they've had one point two million people visit from the time they have opened. And here is the craziest thing that we did. At that time all the smart people that I talked about that were involved in the planning said Why would you do this? You need to create private enclaves, create luxury

   1:18:53housing. and let the lagoon be that great attractor, it's going to result in you can sell homes for more. And we're like, how is that going to help the region? We want to turn this into a reasonable destination so anyone and everyone can come there. And companies come there and get inspired that we want to move here because our employees can have a great lifestyle. So we made the decision. to open them to the public. There are no other lagoons in the state that we are aware of that open

   1:19:24to the public because they take the conventional approach. Uh again, it's a great asset to the area. Uh parks and trails. Again, I can only speak of the parks and trails that we do. In our communities, we worked with the staff and everyone to create a 50-year master plan With the goal being that people are going to carry this thinking forward hopefully make it better. So I'm going to show you what we did. And I'm sure others have to be a little bit more. hopefully bigger

   1:19:54and bolder ideas. But these are actually from our own community with golf cart pads, jogging pads, toddlots for kids. This is an Eagle Park uh in one of the community. And at that point I know it's a big part of discussion. Where's the large park going to be? There was lots and lots of discussion. Wesley Chapel District Park. existed at that point in time, just at the southern boundary. and to the east the county had made a big long term bet to create

   1:20:24the region's largest park, and hence the name V Villages of Pasadena Hills Super Park. And at that time the board made the great decision, let's use all the funds that come out of Connected City and have it go towards the superpark because that is going to create a truly regional destination. We don't need these two or three scattered parks, but something that the county can be proud of. And that's how kind of the plans were set in motion for that. Education.

   1:20:55What we had seen time and again, and I think you hear that all the time, Developments go up. Existing schools that are far away get crowded. There is never any money to build schools. So we Came up with another crazy idea that people laughed at. I think someone even once said to me Did you just wake up and smell some mushrooms here, because this does not make sense? We said we would pay $500 plus dollars in additional school impact fees

   1:21:26with every home that is built to accelerate the schools in this area. We quickly worked, sorry is a little bit of a bad picture, built the first public charter school there, which opened right during COVID. The impact fee went to the school district. They put all of that money, opened up Kirkland Ranch Academy of Innovation, right on the border of Connected City. to soon be followed by K through eight. And there's other schools in that area too, around seven schools. Typically schools as you know come

   1:21:56much later, not on day one, when you're building something that is basically a dream. Big focus on health and wellness. I think a lot of you were at the opening groundbreaking of John Hopkins, which is anchored on the south west side, of Connected City, something that we've always wanted. On the southeast side, it's anchored by Baker, who we've worked with for the longest time, to focus on. John Hopkins focuses on kids. Baker, the

   1:22:26focus was wellness for everyone, and on the north side is Advent Health. with the idea of having an hospital. All in this one tiny area that was planned a long time back. As we said, the goal was to create an economic engine. And this is something that people overlook or it's kind of just got Lost in translation. At Connected City, and these numbers are pretty much what's come out, I think, of our projects so far. On an average, each

   1:22:57home pays. an additional forty seven hundred dollars in impact fee for infrastructure schools and technology. So we didn't take the approach to come here in front of the board ten years back. And said charges lower impact fee because we're following ULI study which said if you build walkable suburbs, you should pay lower impact fees. We came here and said we want to pay more because we want to invest in creating a better future. Let us partner with you. So far the county

   1:23:27has collected $30 million in additional impact fees that go towards this area. We also did full transparency. We commissioned this study last year because we were wondering if this was a good idea. So we hired PFM. which had done an economic study for Water Street, Tampa, to say, Hey by the way, like what's going on? Can you just do a quick gut check for us? And they came back and said Yeah, we did. You're going to be surprised on the results

   1:23:57that in the last three years from twenty twenty to twenty twenty three. Pasco County was the count Florida County with the most completed and under construction commercial real estate in the state with 36 million square feet. going on. Let me pause there. Ten years back we were at three hundred thousand square feet. To go to thirty six million square feet in ten years, I think you all should Stop there for a moment and congratulate yourself this would have not

   1:24:27been possible without the crazy bets. And again, that is a massive number. And they also then concluded that the Pasco County is the only county of major Florida County markets to keep up with the demand for non-residential. Because it's easy to build residential. it's very, very hard to get non residential without writing billions of dollars in checks. But Pasco County is the only one that is doing that. Community funds we talked about another idea

   1:24:58is an I know the I know the EDC and the county are getting ready to announce this today. We said this is all great. We want a better future. We want to bet on the kids. And we want new companies. while they're coming here to also be created here. Why don't we create an enterprise fund, a grant fund that can provide grants to I would say, you know, two kids and a truck or two kids in a mag that are trying to create the next

   1:25:28company but don't want to give up equity. So with every home. The Weeble Hundred dollars is set aside that the county collects. No developer can touch it. No one can touch it. And I believe the first hundred thousand dollars is getting ready to be released to Pasco EDC to put that money to use from the five hundred thousand dollars that's already collected And growing. We did one more thing. What we had seen time and again over time, as I said, Death

   1:25:59by pilot is something you see over and over. After ten years people forget, people move on and life goes on. And we didn't want that

   StarkeyChair

   1:26:11Yeah let's

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:26:14happen. So with every home that gets built there's

   1:26:19There's another thousand dollars that gets set aside for infrastructure technology improvements in the future. Again, we don't get to touch it. The county controls it. That fund is sitting at five million dollars to be put towards good use to doing that. Uh how it's going just to sum it all up. And in the interest of time. This is the map. We can go into detail but I think you all have a general idea of the area. Seven thousand eight hundred and forty

   1:26:49one acres. The two thousand sixty five goal was for thirty seven thousand homes. and twelve point eight million square feet of non residential in this area. Usually what we always see is the residential outpaces. The commercial. In this case it's flipped because The non-residential currently approved is at 11.96 million square feet, or 93% of that, and the residential is only 51% of that.

   1:27:19that ratio has changed, and what we saw was Some enterprises said, you know what, this is great, but we could just buy land right outside. It's going to cost us less and we can build something more ambitious. And there's another million and 1.7 million square feet. of adjacent commercial that's happening All in this area, all that is currently underway As part of what was once said an impossible goal, that will never ever happen

   1:27:50in our lifetime? It's happening right today. And I'm gonna end it with, you know, we're just getting started. Uh the county approved this in twenty seventeen the plans where in twenty twenty five And we think this is going to continue to get better. over time, not older. We've certainly taken it as Metro to heart. And we have started using those fund everything the foundation we laid to create Angeline, which we internally call it Connected City

   1:28:202.0, because without this framework, it wouldn't have been possible. There would have been no Moffitt. We had to go buy an entire 6,000 acres to get Moffitt and their campus for 775 acres with 16 million square feet. Yeah. And we did a couple other things that we couldn't execute on ourselves in this area. which was the farm. We always wanted to do one. We ran out of land, So we built one, it's open at Angelaine, and we're working on a 150 acre regional park with

   1:28:50the county staff. I'm going to keep moving in the interest of time. That is Connected City. I'm gonna pause but leave you with all the people that couldn't come here, on whose behalf I am speaking, I wanted to make sure you heard from them directly. So I'm going to end with this video uh Assuming we're gonna have audio for this. We aren't.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:29:15Yeah, okay.

   1:29:52We need a common capital. in that problem. They're bringing out.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   1:29:57I like to think outside the box. That's what attracted me to Metro's vision of connected cities.

   1:30:04I

   1:30:04feel

   Tanya Riddlesworth

   1:30:04like kind of hard something bigger.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   1:30:08differentiate. I think it's something for Pasco County to take a tremendous amount of pride in.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:30:22Spell that way too.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   1:30:28Was it legislatively in the Any will then stateless.

   1:30:4156 extension, the new 52 realignment. Did you say 52 as being four lane to have a major east quest quarter back and all that? All great projects. And if the county and the state had not worked together, we'd probably be looking at years before we'd be able to deliver them.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:30:58the area formerly known as the Pasco Town Center near I-75 and Wesley Chapel will soon be called

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   1:31:04Double Branch. Over seven million square feet of employment opportunities throughout Double Branch to support the tens of thousands of roofs that are coming up around us. The footprint doesn't just impact their own direct geography. Some of its impact is around the They're building it up on Randy, which we love, because we love restaurants, we love coffee. I think we

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:31:27get two filet,

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   1:31:28which we're excited about. Putting a bet on talent and using an amenity like in the city to attract that talent is really a good feature.

   1:31:42You've got the grocery

   Tanya Riddlesworth

   1:31:43store here, you've got a Lagoon, you've got Solar Street Picecraft, the fastest internet in Asia.

   1:31:53No.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:32:00We are laying a foundation for a healthier future for our community, our patients, and generations to come.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:32:10It's really important that that access point be close to kids and families so they don't have to drive a long ways for services.

   1:32:20You're not the right.

   1:32:37Forest destination. I'm from upstate New York, Syracuse area.

   Tanya Riddlesworth

   1:32:44All of those are people coming to spend money and hang out at the lagoons and have a nice holistic experience. So stay

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   1:32:52tuned. I think there's gonna be more. There just needs to be a little bit of patience as all these parts and pieces come together. But thankfully right now they're coming together, I'd say at an exponential pace. I think the Connected City effect has brought more energy to our area and more economic opportunity to our area, and I think You're just seeing the beginning of that and that's so neighborhood.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:33:14So that's what happens when someone naive enough raises their hand 10 years back and volunteers and says, How can we help? And this is what we have. Hopefully, others can carry this forward and continue making Connected City better. I want to thank everyone for their time and for having me give uh walk everyone in the past and give the history of the last 10 years, uh, and hopefully the next 40 years.

   1:33:43Yes, it's

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:33:44Madam Clerk? Commissioner Oakley I want to thank you from years ago when we first came up with the you first came up with this idea, brought it forward. You did public hearing after public hearing, just presentations, not even public hearing, just like they went place to place to place, showing what was going on, and continually you evolved it every step of the way. And one of the programs I really loved the most was when you talk about the incubator space. When you have a residential piece of property to try to run your small business from its frowned elsewhere, but you are promoting it here, knowing that people, if they started small, they could grow from within

   1:34:15there and go. Earlier today we had some young Lady still here with her two two child children mentioned that I and I thought we had addressed this, but maybe not, that as far as residential entitlements. And I know we're looking at it now, but I want to tell you that I want honestly. To look closely and work with you to try to get you more residential, because those incubator programs that can create jobs, better homes, better lifestyles, I think bring more dynamic people to really want to be entrepreneurs at the same time get themselves a good start. Um I want to help you going. And

   1:34:45I will tell you some of those slides, I've already sent this lady to Bayless, our lobbyist, the UI study, the jobs, how we need jobs, just to kind of promote that. this live local thing that we're dealing with goes directly against all the great work people like you are doing. So thank you.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:34:59Well thank you. Thank you for having us here. Uh again, we own a very small piece of of of the land here, so there's a lot of others that are making this great as well. Uh but thank you.

   StarkeyChair

   1:35:10А I I just want to make a comment and bring it bring it up. Thank you, Carta. That that was amazing. But we have heard from some residents that there isn't a place where they can go like practice enough sport. Sports and and and gather outside of the li lagoon. And I I had a talked with um The administrator about some property that the county has.

   1:35:40I think it'd be good if staff gave their presentation. Oh that okay, you guys go there. That's right.

   David Engel

   1:35:44Thank you. Uh we're going to address uh entitlements, uh parkland, open space, as well as roadway circulation. At this juncture I'd like to invite William Vermilion, our senior planner in charge of MPUDs, to come to the community. Come up to the uh classroom.

   Planning and Development staff

   1:36:04Good morning, Waiver Million, Planning Development, Economic Growth. Unfortunately I don't have any dinosaurs on my slide deck. It may not be as interesting, but uh I I hope this is a good data-driven presentation.

   1:36:18So Like David mentioned, the uh we uh had an entitlement study that was done And it it was completed a couple months ago. What we found That is e especially important is that there's actually 44% of the entitlements remaining for the initial single family detached product. where originally I know a couple of years ago It was stated that we had no more, it turns out There's actually about uh four thousand of those single family detached entitlements

   1:36:49left. We do ha still have fifty percent of the multifamily, which includes Some of these single family quote unquote attached products like the townhomes, but also garden style for the higher density areas in the in the core. We still have roughly 37% of our commercial left commercial entitlements. 75% of the office. And uh I know that number there looks zero. Uh looks weird with the zero there for the industrial, and that's because of the the

   1:37:19plethora that Pasco Town Center or Double Brands is providing. It's actually one of the initial reasons they didn't officially opt into Connected City was they actually wanted more industrial entitlements than was originally contemplated within the overlay. And then wanna and then we have roughly twenty six um percent of the land remaining. So for for that Hope the good news is a lot of that'll come in the the urban core with a higher density to where those um those rest of those entitlements can be located. We

   1:37:51PDE put together a SPA zone checklist, which is the various special planning areas within Connected City. We can see that the North Innovation Zone is currently accomplishing what was set out within the comprehensive plan in terms of uses for the North Innovation Zone, highlighted there by those check marks, including retail, commercials, single-family, detached, hotels, medical, and civic uses. And what what we did was we pulled from the the entitlement study on if there was an approved MPD

   1:38:22with those uses within that special planning area. So that the North Innovation Zone is currently being accomplished. uh per the comprehensive plan. We move over to the South Innovation Zone. You'll notice there's uh there's one dash mark there. And that note there for the high density multifamily is only speaking to the fact that the comprehensive plan for Connected City doesn't directly call out or prescribe what in fact high density multifamily is. There is multifamily that is already approved with

   1:38:52MP MPUDs within the South Innovation Zone. However, because the the Connected City Comprehensive Plan doesn't prescribe The the density range for high density, we felt that it was it was worth noting that to the board. Moving on over to the community hub, there's two Uh two dash marks there. The first being for cultural, and it is worth noting that in both the the tall timbers M Pudy that's going to be coming before you next month and as well as in the approved kitten impute there are conditions of approval which encourage

   1:39:23public art that can serve that cultural focus that's spoken to by the community hub, and lastly that civic use there While there are no currently approved civic uses within the community hub zone, Recently just to the south within Water Granch we did allocate a seven acre library site which can accommodate some of those those residents for the civic use within the community hub zone.

   StarkeyChair

   1:39:46Why couldn't that be a cultural center like at Starkey and uh to tackle the cultural and civic at the same time?

   Planning and Development staff

   1:39:54It it absolutely could be and we can work with development as they as they come in. There's still land available where we could where we could accomplish this. I know that the the bus depot area that you were just speaking to would be perfect for accomplishing that within this uh S P A zone.

   1:40:10And finally the the two higher density and intensity zones, the business core and the urban core. I'm not going to spend too much time going through those. The Connected City Comprehensive Plan is currently being met, and Mr. Kartik did uh did a great job talking about all those non-residential land uses that are occurring within these two SPA zones, as well as the job creation there and the uh the business incubation.

   1:40:34We did conduct a traffic analysis in two thousand twenty three. And it This is an example of the volume of traffic on State Road 52 east of Pasco, that explosion that happened once we finally started having development within Connected City post-COVID from 2020 to now. We can see that spike. However, no road per this traffic study is expected to exceed the volume ratio of 1.1, which is the uh the current threshold acceptable

   1:41:05by by the county. And in fact the highest volume capacity road is west of Elon and that is sitting right now at roughly 0.8 VC ratio, so it's still well within capacity. The infrastructure is keeping up with the amount of entitlements that are being improved in Connected City.

   Unidentified speakerVoice E

   1:41:22Question

   1:41:23on

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:41:23that,

   Unidentified speakerVoice E

   1:41:23Madam Chair? Yeah, I've got some.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:41:25So on McKindry, it's uh isn't part of it it got paved I saw recently, but isn't so mo is it all is it all paved now or is it still part of a dirt road?

   Planning and Development staff

   1:41:32It that that was actually uh a portion of my next slide. Uh the the Ken PewDie is improving McKenry Road into the into the four lane segment, which is the first phase of that roadway, and ultimately it'll end up being a six lane.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:41:46Okay, but is it again is it dirt road still?

   Planning and Development staff

   1:41:50I believe portions north are still

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:41:53a like reliever right there we need we need to look at and then Kenton was the other one on the on the road we need to take a close look at that too.

   David Engel

   1:42:00So Commissioner Mariano on McKindry um number one when Pasco Town Center now known as Double Ranch came in, we realigned the new improved McKindry away from the residents here and I think we have a household here that's interested in our presentation today. And The Pasco Town Center folks, Colum R is going to extend McKindry down. And then we have a M PUDs to the south where um the Children's Hospital is part of that. And that's it's gonna be interconnected with that new

   1:42:30alignment and that'll be completed uh in the next couple of years, if not sooner.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:42:35All right. And I and I've I've talked to our county engineer about this several times is things just north of the John John Hopkins site where you could probably put a rotary to make a turn, make it safe. But that connection going closer to seventy five going up through, you're gonna be tearing away homes. You got a few three minutes to meet. I don't I hope we're s looking at shifting that to the side. I don't know if we ever have made that shift.

   David Engel

   1:42:55Well that we have made room to realign the Kindry Road away from the existing residents and their homes, and that was part of the uh double branch MPUD.

   StarkeyChair

   1:43:09Uh was that map do you have another sli more slides? Yeah there.

   Planning and Development staff

   1:43:13Yes ma'am.

   1:43:16Special districts roadway obligations map that staff has created so V O P H as well. Yeah, so this does in enc encompass the village passing Hills. I'm not I'm not gonna speak to that. Um we'll have a further presentation on the the roadway obligations and VOPH at a later date. We can see here on the left side of the screen they're divided by curly road. Those gold roadway segments are ones that have currently been spoken to by obligations of MPUD developers. The black is currently constructed, and the dashed red lines in Connected City

   1:43:47are all we have left. And really, what it is is there's about three. major segments left on the master roadway plan that are still uh to be obligated to a developer, but We're we're very far ahead of schedule with the twenty sixty five build out now just being in twenty twenty five with the amount of infrastructure that we have built. And if

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:44:06you put better

   Planning and Development staff

   1:44:06chair.

   Hayat Mazilli

   1:44:07Yeah.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:44:07Um, looking on the left side of the screen, the section I was just talking about was roadway AF. And if you look at where that roadway is aligned, you're gonna go through ten diff ten, fifteen, twenty different homes, farms, whatever may be there. And and if you took further to the right and brought Just above where it says phase two to the side I believe is where it is. You could bring it across, connect to old McKendry, and I think you do a lot better than waiting for all that because you're gonna have to either take those homes or you're gonna be

   1:44:37waiting a long, long time. And if you're gonna be making the that roadway through, I think you still work with old McKendry, putting a little rotary in there. uh roundabout to to make it connect safely and bring it all the way up at least while this is all going on because it's gonna be many many years to come meanwhile as more and more people get in there more traffic comes in there that reliever is not gonna happen the way you want it to be.

   Planning and Development staff

   1:44:58Absolutely yes sir and uh this roadway alignment isn't in isn't indicative necessarily of what staff is proposing with alternative alignments. This is just the vision road layer we were able to pull from the layering on map

   1:45:11So I the uh that that vision road alignment isn't isn't set in stone there. That's just the the current layer that we have on our mapper.

   1:45:20And now we're moving into the the current park service area. So what we what we did here with this map, you can see the the green the green dots throughout Connected City. We map the neighborhood parks as well as their total acreage. And so roughly right now we have 115 acres of neighborhood parks that are built within Connected City, not in inclusive of the VOPH Superpark or the Wesley Chapel District Park. And what you see there in the tan color and in the blue color is actually the park service area for both of those respective

   1:45:50large parks. It's going to be about 240 acres of VOPH superpark. that is serving that blue area within the park service area and the tan being served by the Wesley Chapel District Park. Initially that is a radius that is set out around five miles that allows for that that service area. to uh to be built, but then as the roadway infrastructure improves, the park service area actually expands as people are able to get to the park in less and less time with the the pedestrian and vehicular infrastructure.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:46:20Madam Chair. Yeah. Can you show us wh which which of those dots is the the V O P H District Park?

   StarkeyChair

   1:46:31Yeah.

   Planning and Development staff

   1:46:31I mean it's shown in the Wesley Chapel

   StarkeyChair

   1:46:33District.

   Planning and Development staff

   1:46:38be in the map frame. So it's about point two five miles to the east of where that boundary is. And uh Yeah.

   Unidentified speaker

   1:46:48Chair. Yeah. Keith, why you're why you're up since you're the star when it comes to I

   WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

   1:46:53knew that I knew that was I was just waiting and then you happen to walk up. So

   1:47:01We know that the VOPH superpark, we're not going to be able, just based on the topo of the land, it's not going to be as as super as anticipated. We're going to have to fall short, right, on a few areas of uses. So based on that and So the board then the boom happened, everybody moved to Florida, and so now we see what's going on today. And as we know life changes and things evolve. The county's grown younger uh

   1:47:31in age and we grew ahead of schedule. And I know at the time the the the the board or uh wanted to allocate Park funds from Connecticut City over to the V OPA superpark. I really think we need to revisit that. We did that. And um I know you didn't. We did allocate. I know. But I'm thinking but my point to that is is This Wesley Chapel District Park is at absolute capacity. And

   1:48:03We need to find a way To have A similar style park within Connected City. And whether we look at how do we relocate funds based on the shortfall that the superpark is going to have, whether we restructure the way that funding mechanism works, I think it needs to because Connected City is here today. The youth and the parents. are demanding That we have filled space. for you name the sports that are evolving, I mean Cricket,

   1:48:34baseball, softball. You named this poor. They're needing space and there are people here now. And before Connect City keeps going on, I know everybody's looking at the forty acres, but Keith, correct me if I'm wrong.

   StarkeyChair

   1:48:47What forty acres?

   WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

   1:48:48We need to add with there's a McKinley Road site that you alluded to that we own, but the park size that we need now today in the state of our county is what, eighty acre plots, not forty acre. We've down doubled the size of the land mass that we need To serve the folks that live in these areas. So for the 40 acre site isn't going to cut it, for it to actually make real movement in a positive direction is for as far as park services that would go within Connecticut City,

   1:49:19we need to double that footprint in my opinion. And I think we really need to take a look at the financial plan between between the V OPH and between Connecticut and figure out how to make something happen sooner than later in the Connecticut corridor. Folks aren't gonna let's kinda use common sense here, folks aren't gonna jump on golf carts and whatever and move east and get to the they'll be out of breath, it's hilly and everything that to get by the time they get to the VOPH superpark and get back in

   1:49:49the roads and everything, it's it's gonna create congestion. Connecticut City has city in its name. There needs to be community users, true community users within the Connecticut City uh boundaries. I think it's it's time now that we know what we know and that and what the folks and our customers are demanding that we take a look at it. So Keith Based on our conversation, share what you're comfortable with or not. Sure. But

   StarkeyChair

   1:50:17Has a question

   WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

   1:50:19first

   Oakley

   1:50:19so hang

   StarkeyChair

   1:50:19on. Well

   Oakley

   1:50:20not a question. It's actually um I picked up something and you said the the super part wasn't gonna be as big as it was planned to be and I I've never heard that. Neither. And uh the fact of it is, and I know Keith's under the gun And that here today, but he's under the gun because All of our parks and all of our citizens are asking for more space on every park we have in the county. They're not just asking for

   1:50:50one. It's many. So I guess if you could enlighten me Why are we gonna fall short on the superpark when that's been planned a long time ago and this board Um back. When we started Connected City about two years after we had started, decided to move those funds per park over to the superpark.

   Keith

   1:51:14Sure, Commissioner Yeah, Keith Wiley, Director of Parks Recreation Natural Resources Department. So I'm sharing a new map um just so I can uh hopefully maybe uh address some of the questions and statements. So on the screen basically is is now you can actually see the superpark and I think the idea of that term, Superpark, is that uh it is a lot of acreage. It's about three hundred acres in total. It was intended through the planning district to be both a passive facility and an active facility. So there are deed restrictions on at least half of that acreage

   1:51:45to where it can only pretty much be like a wilderness park, pass of recreation. The rest, the remainder of that acreage, which is pretty much right next to um to the existing uh utilities facility or solid waste facility, excuse me, that's not gonna be enough, unfortunately, to kind of get all of the facilities and amenities that we need. And and it's mostly to Commissioner Weightman's point, site conditions. We're probably gonna spend more money in retaining walls to actually get the facility up. But we'll, you know, we just started that process. So that

   1:52:15in fact is that location. The good news is that We are actually moving forward with design. Um

   StarkeyChair

   1:52:20Can I can I ask you, where is this waste whatever you were saying, I don't know what that is. Transfer station.

   Oakley

   1:52:26Where?

   1:52:29Right. Right. Transfer station. Yeah. Just south of Prospect and Hankart Road.

   StarkeyChair

   1:52:36Okay, I'm gonna try and find that.

   Oakley

   1:52:38Right right up close to the Academy of the Farm.

   StarkeyChair

   1:52:40Oh I okay, I see it

   Oakley

   1:52:41now. Just east of the Academy. Thank you.

   Keith

   1:52:45Okay, so um I think William and Karczyk did a good job explaining the history of what happened and how we are here today relative to the parks piece. Um When you do the overlay, which I think was in William's slide, you see that both the Wesley Chapel District Park, which is in the bottom left corner, and the future VOPH superpark does actually overlap and serve uh serve the actual uh Connected Cities District as well as the VOPH district. For a point of clarification, when the Connected Cities pilot was presented,

   1:53:16it did trigger a park's concurrency uh requirement at the time. And I think, you know, just to I wasn't a part of that decision, but I would have to make the assumption, speculation, that Based on the overlap of the service areas, it was probably, you know, everyone probably thought that the VOPH superpark and Wesley Chapel District Park would serve, you know, would serve the ultimate needs. So what we're seeing is, unfortunately, to Commissioner Weightman's point. Wesley Chapel District Park is at capacity. We know that we're going to have challenges with VOPH, as I

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:53:46just described. And so really the question is is where should we, if we need to, where should we be locating any other park facilities? Um and I think that's ultimately the question that's being, you know, I'm not gonna sit here and say and turn down any opportunity for an additional park. I will uh because my team would be like, What did you do? We get demands all the time. What I will say is that The impact fee study that was approved. came with a very specific capital plan of which this project or any contemplation of a park project here

   Keith

   1:54:16was not included. The ordinance was written and I know uh David Goldstein's in the audience, he can maybe articulate this. The ordinance was written to allow the BCC the ability to swap projects off the list, but shit's a one-for-one swap. So if the board chose to decide that they feel like a park a district park because the community park really doesn't get it done. An additional district park is needed. The board has the ability to do that. Uh we would just have to decide which project in the 21 projects identified in the capital plan

   1:54:46would be removed uh in in place of this. Yeah. So um it's there's a there's a willingness obviously to do whatever the board directs us to do. Thank you. Okay

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:54:56Jack. Um Keith as as the V O P As you mentioned, you get bound by some restrictions, wetlands, etc. etc. Um with that said, part of the penny for Pasco money for e-Lamp money was designed to like use lands like that, and you've got flexibility to actually use funds to actually go build things in e-lamp type properties. I'd like you to take a look at and consider bringing back to some how much of that land could you use for that type of process? Supplement That funding and then maybe redirect that funding that was into the park and

   1:55:26then shift it over somewhere, maybe additionally to Westley Chapel Park, maybe a smaller park that can be more centrally focused that could take some of the stress off Wesley Chapel. That hand card par area is so far away. I think you need to look internally to connected cities in that area to try to put something in that.

   StarkeyChair

   1:55:43Look at that little orange square. McKenzie site.

   Keith

   1:55:47Yeah.

   StarkeyChair

   1:55:47Um let's talk about that one.

   Keith

   1:55:49Okay. This this one right here?

   StarkeyChair

   1:55:52Isn't that the county site? Yeah. Property?

   Keith

   1:55:55Yes. Yes, that's correct.

   StarkeyChair

   1:55:56Okay.

   Keith

   1:55:58You want to do that?

   1:56:01So somewhat to be clear, um I haven't had any discussions about all we've got all we've done is gone through the analysis of what currently exists and why it exists.

   StarkeyChair

   1:56:10Let's pull let's pull up that property. Um And Uh this is this is next to the tall timbers project, if you remember that. Well I don't know if it came here or I listened to it on the Hunting Commission. I get th some of those mixed up sometimes.

   Yeager

   1:56:26How big is the parcel? Oh.

   Oakley

   1:56:28Forty acres. So we have twenty acres you're looking at is where we plan put maintenance for the east side of uh Pasco County.

   David Engel

   1:56:35Yeah, that that's correct, Commissioner Oakley. So tall timbers is to the east, to the west. Can we can we get

   StarkeyChair

   1:56:40yeah to a different way?

   David Engel

   1:56:43And just south of that is land owned by Pasco County Utilities, which is vacant at the moment.

   StarkeyChair

   1:56:48Right. So My thoughts to um Either a swap with tall timbers are forty acres. and put a park on the property you're gonna see from tall timbers. You know, I I'm I'm sorry they're coming forward because um I was would like to have had this kind of deal worked out already. But tall timbers is coming in Um s see where our tra our bus depot is? Which I don't

   1:57:18know why we put a bus depot there. Should have been on I don't think that was a great location. But to the right is tall timbers. It's got a lake in the middle of it. Um and no now what happened.

   Mike Carballa

   1:57:33It's right, Jason, just not like this.

   StarkeyChair

   1:57:35Okay, can you can you go back where you were? You had it just right.

   1:57:41That to the right that's tall timbers where the arrow is.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   1:57:45The cangular piece right under the sneepahole and the sort of access.

   StarkeyChair

   1:57:49Those that piece and the piece below that are owned by Pasco County.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:57:53Uh uh.

   StarkeyChair

   1:57:54Um w I've talked with Keith, I talked with Mike. We can fit ball fields in there. We can't fit a whole superpark. Right? Or I mean a whole a whole district park. But we certainly can put in some some play fields A shelter, barbecue. You know, something that's a good amenity for the for the residents right there. That's a perfect spot for it. That's what I thought too. Perfect. Um I think there will make come available I put some text out here.

   1:58:25Um There may be some more property north of fifty two that might come available for another Park. I'm not sure that family's ready, um, but they one of the members had approached me about a park one day. So if we do need more parks, I think we might have a place. Um but f this can blow and go right here. Mm-hmm. Right in the middle of everything.

   Yeager

   1:58:50So

   StarkeyChair

   1:58:51we'd have to work out a deal with our utility department.

   Mike Carballa

   1:58:54You well correct, yeah. The funds the funds would need to be made whole that that part that part's on our piece. But I mean the you know, in as far as negotiating with another third party on a land swap, I I mean I guess is that something that's

   StarkeyChair

   1:59:07I'm not the attorney, but uh you know what I would ask Keith which side is better Um, yeah. Th this site this site has more buildable land, our site, than theirs, so then do they give us money for it? Well I think you do and then we use that money to build a park, you know what I mean?

   Mike Carballa

   1:59:24Yeah, I mean I think if if the board wants us to direct those to have those conversations, let let us have those conversations so we can we can figure that out right- than negotiate with ourselves here right now from from the dais. So but if the general consensus of the board here if the consensus of the board is to move forward with the park, number one, we would need to identify the site. So and if you want us to consider a land swap, that's fine, we can do that, bring back a recommendation. And then secondly, if we're going to construct on said site, then as Keith says, we would need to

   1:59:55reallocate the funding to that or determine what the timing would be. So if if that's the case, and again we have plans to use this as a utility site. This was to be used for uh future utilities uh and public works maintenance facilities. I I put brakes on on those design projects. I don't that's just not a good place right in the middle of the town. I guess we were talking about it. And the utility purchased it probably 15, 20 years ago it was the perfect site. Yeah. And you have

   StarkeyChair

   2:00:19an alternate That was to move the I believe we have thirty acres there. We have three hundred acres of it. We have I don't know why this is here.

   Keith

   2:00:27Madam Chairman if I can to add to on to what Mr. Carbala just said, um the master the parks master plan was done over ten years ago. What I would recommend in addition to what Mike just said is give us an opportunity to do another analysis looking northward. And maybe there depending on the future MPDs coming online that we did not take into consideration on the master planning effort, maybe there is another place that. We need to be looking for the land that serves a greater area in in in that area of the county. So I think we could

   2:00:57do that rather quickly. It's not something that we've got to do. Rather

   StarkeyChair

   2:00:59than use this spot?

   Keith

   2:01:01No, I think so there you

   2:01:02know

   2:01:02there we we we do have the ability to to fund community parks through the impact fee, but my recommendation is to make sure that we get it in a location that makes the most sense. Uh logistically it just becomes a maintenance and operational challenge if you have multiple areas in one one service area.

   Mike Carballa

   2:01:18I think what Keith's saying is is he he'd like to optimize the piece. Right now that's the piece we have and obviously that's that's the good look in the There's a strong argument to make too

   2:01:26much.

   2:01:27Kids can write their pines.

   MarianoVice Chair

   2:01:36Madam Clerk? Commissioner Weightman. I mean I'm glad you brought this site up. I think it's it's actually right in the dead center of this whole thing, this whole population where everyone's talking about golf cart, golf cart, golf card. And I'll tell you, my my daughter's dream is to actually be able to walk or golf cart. to take her kids to soccer practice and that would take care of a lot of that. I think the e like I said with the V OPH money with if we've got so much of that superpark that we can't use because of environmental stuff, I think we should look at using that ELAM money to help supplant this too. I don't I'm

   StarkeyChair

   2:02:05not sure Keith's got a lot of extra money left.

   MarianoVice Chair

   2:02:16Even if it's not gonna be the full park you wanna get, but whatever you can put in there, even if you just focus on the little kids Great place to be.

   StarkeyChair

   2:02:24Commissioner Oakley.

   Oakley

   2:02:25Well I understand what you're saying about sooner, but This is in District One and I would like to give them time to choose the very best spot that goes in District One to help Connected City in this issue about another party.

   StarkeyChair

   2:02:39Now is this a a c community park? Are we talking about a Starkey regional park?

   Keith

   2:02:45I I think that's that's why I'm asking.

   2:02:49So technic yeah, you don't have we don't have the money in the capital plan to add another major project. You have to do a swap. To Commissioner Mariano's point, um the penny allocation does talk about a certain percentage of proceeds that can be used for natural resources facilities. To be clear, this is not really a I know this is gonna sound kind of hilarious considering I'm usually in front of you talking about need needing money, but that's more from the maintenance side. From the capital side, it's not a money issue, it's the right location issue. Um and if there's if the analysis, if the needs analysis says we do something like Commissioner Mariano

   2:03:20says, we drop some smaller amenities at one location and we do something else to the north, that's fine. What I'm what I'm recommending is just the time to do that analysis. So

   StarkeyChair

   2:03:28Tim tall timbers is coming to us. Um, can we ask them to hold off?

   Mike Carballa

   2:03:34uh we can have a conversation. I think the policy direction of the board at this point is look, we we want a park, um some form of a park within the connected city. Uh bring back recommendations to make it happen, which could include this, could include land swaps and an optimal optimal placement to to make sure that we're addressing the needs of the citizens for parks. I will reach out to tall timbers and we'll have a discussion.

   StarkeyChair

   2:03:56Even if these are are are uh fields that can be used for practice but then the competitions, you know, if if it fe if it frees up the other fields for practices Uh I mean for games and these are practices, I think that really helps the community.

   Oakley

   2:04:12It needs I'm telling you we have the need in all our parts for more fills, more fills,

   StarkeyChair

   2:04:17more fills. Yes, and it comes along with maintenance money.

   Oakley

   2:04:20Not just practice

   StarkeyChair

   2:04:20to fund it at zero. So we can't add we can't add parks without maintaining them.

   David Engel

   2:04:28Madam Chairman Mariano we had two other items uh in this regular item session. Uh they were just informational to provide uh line of sight to the board when things are going to be delivered to them. We could do that after lunch or I could give you just a brief overview now.

   StarkeyChair

   2:04:44I can go another fifteen minutes. Can then can everyone else

   David Engel

   2:04:49it'll only take that time. So the next next item is Pasco twenty. twenty fifty and I'd like to invite invite uh Hyatt Mazilli up here, our lead senior planner for the Comp Plan. Thank you.

   Hayat Mazilli

   2:04:59Good discussion

   StarkeyChair

   2:05:00guys.

   Hayat Mazilli

   2:05:01Good afternoon everyone. So this portion of the presentation is a brief status update about the Pasco twenty fifty comprehensive plan update. Um I wanted to walk you quickly through the scope of the Pasco 2050 project, but for the interest of time I'll just uh quickly uh let you know that in 2023 we have done the vision um phase of the comprehensive plan uh process. In year four of the process is the 2024 and this is when we start reviewing

   2:05:31and revising the elements of the comprehensive plan. And now we are in year twenty twenty-five, which is year five of the update and This year is the adoption of the plan. This slide highlights how we restructured and reformatted the existing elements of the comprehensive plan. On the left side you see the existing elements, and on the right side, you see how we rebranded the elements

   2:06:02into chapters that captured the spirit and the focus of the of the existing element. So for example, Fasco Lives is the housing element. Basco Partners consolidates the intergovernmental coordination and the public schools facilities element.

   2:06:21Basco grows, uh consolidates future land use element and the property rights element, and Basco specializes. Um brings VOPH, Connected City, and Project Arthur under one roof.

   2:06:36And this is a look at what's ahead as we complete the BASCO 2050 comprehensive plan update.

   2:06:44We are finalizing the GOPs right now along with the updated map series. We anticipate to have uh workshops with the LPA and the BOCC um in May-June time period. Okay.

   2:07:00And now I'll hand it over to Mr. Pitos for VP for Pasadena Hills update.

   David Engel

   2:07:07Thank you. In Pasco 2050, it's our objective not only to interface with the board uh but also have stakeholder engagement to kind of wrap up our public interaction with us showing them the proposed plan after all those initial workshops. Next is uh Nectario Pito Seth Weightman. Um

   StarkeyChair

   2:07:25before you go,

   David Engel

   2:07:25can

   StarkeyChair

   2:07:26you go back you you

   David Engel

   2:07:27slide back please to the

   StarkeyChair

   2:07:28Well you t you to c I think you skipped a uh connected city slide. Did did I see?

   David Engel

   2:07:34I don't believe we did, ma'am.

   StarkeyChair

   2:07:35What was one of the green lines? What was that slide? At the end of Before this one. What was before that one and before that one? No?

   David Engel

   2:07:46Oh that was just the service area parked that we used to do.

   StarkeyChair

   2:07:51You've gone the wrong way.

   Mike Carballa

   2:07:57Well if there was some screen lines, that could have just been an artifact from the um review of Yeah, I guess. Yeah, so I got it.

   StarkeyChair

   2:08:06Okay, well I wanna see that under commissioner items. I wanna see that.

   David Engel

   2:08:10Well that deck's available as well. I want to see

   StarkeyChair

   2:08:12how the trails connect to each other

   David Engel

   2:08:13in

   StarkeyChair

   2:08:14Connected City.

   David Engel

   2:08:15Sure. Um so Nectarius Pitos, uh our Planning Service Director, he uh he's focusing on two of our special projects. We have a lot of special projects, but these two in particular are important. One is uh reevaluating the V OPH business plan that's underway and also our our our mobility impact fee studies, so I'm gonna turn it over to Terry now. Thank you.

   Oakley

   2:08:39Thank you, David. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh Nocturus Pictures Planning Development and Economic Growth. Um so part of the villages of Pasadena Hills in as part of their enabling documents includes the V OPH financial plan, which was One of the founding documents first originated back in 2008-9 timeframe. Over the years, that document has been updated a few times. Most recently, the last update was in October of 2022. Um this January that just passed, the

   2:09:09Board of County Commissioners uh commenced the first public sector assessment of the financial plan for VOPH uh in January of 2025. All of the previous financial plan assessments and updates that occurred were part and partly were mostly funded by the property owners group in the villages of Pasadena Hills. In this case, this is a public the county assessing and updating the financial plan using VOPH dollars that have been collected through the Development

   2:09:39Administration review fees. And the methodology. that we're going to be using in the financial plan update or the financial plan assessment, excuse me, is the same sort of methodology that we're going to be using in the mobility fee update study. Basically we're going to up uh look at Identifying land use quantities, that is densities and intensities, the proposed versus the actual that's getting built in the villages of Pasadena Hills, and we're going to be looking at an assessment of the master roadway plan for VOPH

   2:10:09to identify infrastructure demands, the basically the volume capacity ratio versus design, and what can we potentially do at that point. The financial plan assessment will deliver some recommendations and some ideas on what we can do policy-wise going forward. Those can include things like answering the questions: should we increase density in DOPH? Should we decrease density intensity in DOPH? Should we establish minimums and maximums? Should we change the master roadway plan assumptions

   2:10:40and reduce right-of-way and infrastructure requirements? Those are some of the questions that we're seeking answers to as part of the VOPH financial plan assessment.

   StarkeyChair

   2:10:50Are you wanting us to have a discussion now?

   Oakley

   2:10:52No, this is just a brief overview just to give you a sense of what's going to be coming to you. Because I have some ideas. I have the Gantt chart here. Always. Right now we're in the data and analysis phase of the VOPH financial plan assessment. We're going to be entering into some policy system. Synthesis discussions with our consultant, and hopefully bringing this forward to the local planning agency. and probably to the OPH Planning and Policy Committee in the June timeframe with a

   2:11:23final report to the BCC in the July timeframe. Uh having said that, uh the I mentioned mobility fee update study, this sort of goes together.

   MarianoVice Chair

   2:11:33Can we just can we just do it in the afternoon? Terry's gonna be here anyway. Yeah,

   WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

   2:11:37I it's a real quick. I have more questions on Connected City and

   StarkeyChair

   2:11:44the D. Yeah, we'll do it.

   2:11:49Okay. Um yes, sorry, we'll pause you. Yes sir. Thank you. Yes ma'am. Um And let's get back to Connected City real quick. Um Commissioner

   WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

   2:11:59Weightman. Back to the forty-four percent That we found forty four percent of um single family housing content. Whether it's Will or Engle There. So hey, fantastic news. That's that's great to see. And depending on how markets transition, maybe that can evolve. Um

   StarkeyChair

   2:12:25but can I interrupt you for a second and say the caveat is We don't want every house in there to be entry-level housing, which as we all know certain values Th there there's a line where the if the value isn't high enough it's it's it takes resources from us. But if it's above that line, it adds Yeah, so we need We need not forty five, you know, we need we need

   2:12:55homes that are selling six hundred, seven hundred and above, right?

   WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

   2:13:02I'll let you manage that piece. Okay. Keep going in the direction I was coming. Okay. Thank you, ma'am. I got a note here, so I don't forget. Thank you, ma'am. So when it comes to the the the planning, right, how we're making decisions on the projects that come in. Now that we know we have there's forty-four percent remaining of the single family housing stock. fifty percent of the multifamily stock is left. So as we make our decisions, I I think knowing this information now, uh I

   2:13:32think within your planning group projects have the opportunity to change or evolve or become more creative uh in what we approve on whatever's scale of the of the product line that that we see. Now the question is going to be between the you know, forty four percent of single family housing stock and there's fifty percent of the multifamily stock left, which in this definition multifamily is towns, can't design

   David Engel

   2:13:58row houses as well as apartments. Okay.

   WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

   2:14:01And the single family product is single family detached not including towns.

   David Engel

   2:14:06Yes, sir. And I'd make a point to you, Commissioner, that we don't ever use all our entitlement. So you have twenty six percent of the land remaining vacant and unentitled. And we have forty four percent of the single family overall entitlement still available. So there's a lot of flexibility here.

   WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

   2:14:22Right. So as we move forward as Connecticut City keeps growing and people keep moving in, I think it's a good exercise to take the land that we have left and then with the percentages of which stock is available What's the best mix of users? Knowing that we need some level of a a park. within there that's currently not in the plan today. So Your

   2:14:52s your your team is is is capable and I think it would be a a good exercise that with the information that we know today, know we need a park and what's the Beck's Miths the uses with the stock that's left remaining, how we build out to make this phase a connected city as far as living goes, you know. So I think it changes the game a little bit. It ups the ante and it allows us to push what's left in a in a you know keep going in a good in a good direction.

   David Engel

   2:15:22So I absolutely understand, Commissioner, and I think the paraphrase or direction from the board is that we'd like to look at the twenty-six percent remaining and look at the entitlements there and come up with a creative application. Yeah.

   2:15:37We will do so, sir.

   StarkeyChair

   2:15:38And I I don't know the price levels of homes in there, but I wanna be sure That we're not doing um entry level everything, but that we have that higher Higher end home too. Which which helps

   Oakley

   2:15:56um

   StarkeyChair

   2:15:57I don't think you'll find

   Oakley

   2:15:58entry level housing in in the connected city.

   StarkeyChair

   2:16:01It's it's Lenar and D R.

   Oakley

   2:16:03If you think it's three and four and five hundred thousand dollars. That's what

   StarkeyChair

   2:16:05Lenar and D R do. I got easy.

   Oakley

   2:16:08That's not good entry level for people on the east side of Pasco.

   StarkeyChair

   2:16:11Well, I'm not saying affordable. Um

   2:16:17Because housing's barely affordable for anyone, but I do think they need some workforce housing in there.

   Oakley

   2:16:23Oh I still I don't know necessarily in there, but somewhere on the east side we need some affordable housing. Yeah. So

   David Engel

   2:16:30Madam Chair, from the standpoint of provision of executive housing here in the county, executive housing. We have a number of uh very attractive opportunities for executive housing for G Ranch. On Bellamy Brothers, we just approved five acre platted large project. And this afternoon we have uh the state residential before the board with another substantial estate-based uh executive project. So we are bringing those in now.

   StarkeyChair

   2:16:56Is there any executive Space and connected city.

   David Engel

   2:17:01N not that I know of, ma'am.

   StarkeyChair

   2:17:04Yeah, I'm sure? Yeah.

   MarianoVice Chair

   2:17:06So one of the one of the things that was as I talked about with the incubator pro projects where people would have like nice big homes, be able to run their business out of it, or start small and grow. So I I think you're on the money, the the estate residential type home is is something we want to see. You want to see the high end people those those are the executives, they want to have those executives homes. That's where they come and they break their business and bring everything else around. They gotta have a place in here. It's gotta be some to make some. It's gotta be gotta be some.

   Pastor Troy Peterson

   2:17:33Yeah.

   MarianoVice Chair

   2:17:33So I think we should take a closer look at that. Um I think the multifamily home uh and row home should be separated out from the apartment. And if you say we're not going to use all the density. All the land around the the edges of the farms or et cetera should can be used for that. But again, the apartment apartment is not affordable housing. They don't charge. When they charge twenty five hundred bucks, it's a luxury. Yeah what perfectly. And right now and right now with what we're dealing with local, I think now's the time to change all this if we can to minimize how many apartments can actually be there.

   StarkeyChair

   2:18:04The um

   2:18:07And on the commercial that's left. I mean D we didn't is there a town center anywhere in here?

   David Engel

   2:18:14Well yes there is ma'am. Um in the urban core area in the employment center for executive city, double branch that's hundreds of thousands of square feet of uh retail, commercial, designation.

   StarkeyChair

   2:18:25Is it gonna but is it gonna be laid out as a place as a town center? You know what? A place where people want to go at night on Saturday night?

   David Engel

   2:18:35Yes, ma'am. There is a uh placemaking destination and if you recall uh the the early rendering in our presentation was actually from the Pasco Town Center. It's gonna be a walkable, mixed use uh retail destination node. There'll be a there'll be restaurants, there'll be plazas, uh gathering points for the public and other types of retail opportunities.

   StarkeyChair

   2:18:56I think that's important. That's really I think that uh wiregrass is going down that route as well with some of the new stuff that J D is doing. So we'll

   David Engel

   2:19:05that's correct. Over at uh um Overpass Road there's a a town center going in there that's walkable, accessible to the entire community. Commissioner Oakley and I were out there about a month ago doing an inspection of that.

   StarkeyChair

   2:19:18Um the last thing I I want to see how the trail Someone put a GIS up there. I wanted to see how the trails connect to each other. When we talk about walkable. So what was that map that was up there? Okay, so that's the trail walking past. So so so see this is this is a concern to me because Unless we're not going to be able to in Kartic, I think maybe I showed you this and there's a lot missing from here. Uh maybe. But and I'm not talking about sidewalks now, I'm talking about multi-use paths. So

   2:19:50I i if there's a better map than this I'd like to see it. Because this is This is not connected. So uh

   2:20:02I'm concerned on this part. I think we've I think I'm not sure if you're Yeah, I'm concerned.

   David Engel

   2:20:10Well um Madam Chair um can we just maybe maybe Keith and I can meet with you uh you know um at in your in your chambers and maybe we can discuss this because we don't really have all the data here today. I think this is Keith's

   StarkeyChair

   2:20:23map now that I'm remembering.

   David Engel

   2:20:24Yeah.

   StarkeyChair

   2:20:26And just so someone someone can get me a better map, I think. No offense. Yeah

   Keith

   2:20:30no, that's fine. That's what we were just talking about. So we'll work with um all of our partners, make sure we get all the necessary CAD files and identify what each of those systems are and how they provide connectivity.

   StarkeyChair

   2:20:43It is uh see this road that goes east west in Maratha. I don't know the name of that road, but I don't think it has a multi-use path on it. I think it has a five foot sidewalk on either side. There's plenty of room for a multi-use path. But that's a mistake. Because we want these people to be able to ride their bikes over to the town center. And they're and you can't do it on a five foot sidewalk. People get You have to You have to go into the grass if there's someone else on it. I mean you just can't do it. It's not safe. Yeah. So I think we're gonna

   2:21:13have to fix that one.

   Keith

   2:21:14I Madam Chairman I think it's a like a nomenclature thing and a naming thing. So I think there's a lot more trial opportunities here. Um that we just need to make sure we put them all on a map so we can talk about what they are.

   StarkeyChair

   2:21:24Okay, but for sure that east west road and I I don't know what that black road is coming down, but I think that's the main entrance system. Rather. Um That eastworth road must have a multi-use path on. And Especially if that's how people get into downtown, not in their car.

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   David Engel

   1:32:46Thank you. We're gonna start off with uh Hyatt Mazilli just going over the schedule for Pasco twenty fifty. Thank you.

   Hayat Mazilli

   1:32:54Thank you, hi at Mazilli Planning and Planning Development Economic Growth, take two. Should we bring up the presentation? Thank you, Tony. So um this slide is showing the anticipated timeline for the Pasco 2050 comprehensive plan update completion. We are on track to finalize the goal, objectives, and policies of the chapters along with the future land use map, um updated future land use map series. Uh we anticipate in May-June timeframe to um hold workshops

   1:33:25with the local planning agency and with the BOCC. And we're gonna take it back to the public in July of 2025 and we'll open conversations.

   1:33:38open conversations um through a series of open houses and that's when the public gets to review what's in the plan and of course provide us with our comments and just I want to note that before we go to the open houses, we will have all of our chapters up in our website in the June timeframe. So we'll give the public enough time to review the documents. And by mid-August through September we um will start the public hearing

   1:34:08process with the LPA and the BOCC. And following that, we'll transmit the plan, the Pasco 2050 plan, to Florida Commerce. And assuming and praying that everything goes well with Florida Commerce, we will start the adoption process in the November-December timeframe. And the exciting part starts in twenty twenty-six when we actually make the Pasco twenty fifty vision a reality. Nice. Okay. Any questions?

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:34:39Are most of these uh open houses gonna be at nighttime?

   Hayat Mazilli

   1:34:43It's gonna be at six PM, yes. Six to eight. And it's gonna be countywide. So we'll have one in each of y'all districts.

   1:34:53Yeah, welcome. Thank you.

   StarkeyChair

   1:34:54Okay, thank you. All right. And we have Terry, right?

   David Engel

   1:34:57And I and I believe there were some questions about V O P H and the Board Desire discussion. So uh Nictorios Pitos will come up and finish off his uh Q and A. Thank you.

   Oakley

   1:35:11Good afternoon, Commissioner. Dictars Pito's playing the bomb in economic growth. As I was mentioning earlier this morning, the VOPH financial plan is being assessed essentially this summer. I'm not going to repeat all the points that I made earlier about what the assessment will take a look at. Suffice it to say that we are currently in the data and analysis phase. There will be policy synthesizing taking place among staff and our consultants. with the LPA and the

   1:35:41OPH Planning and Policy Committee in the June timeframe and hopefully bringing this before this plan before the board or the assessment before the board in July. Um at the same time as all of the open houses are taking place with a comprehensive plan update. We'll also be working the 2025 mobility fee update study. This study was last updated in 2021. This will update all of our tables, our mobility fee tables that get charged to the various land uses and time

   1:36:12of certificate of occupancy. The state has mandated updates approximately every four years and sets limits on how much you can. Increase the fee year to year. This is our four-year update that's taking place. We are looking to determine these types of policy questions here: the consolidation of the tables, adding new and additional land use codes to make the tables a little bit more flexible and adjust the current marketplace.

   1:36:43We're going to be asking questions on how much incense. We should be providing to our preferred land uses. We're also going to be asking the question about how much incentive should we be providing to our non-prevert preferred land users. And then also similar to how we talked about in the VOPH financial plan assessment. You know, we have to take a look at what our battery preservation assumptions include, what the mobility fees can actually fund, what kind of infrastructure requirements do we have to potentially change given the changing environment

   1:37:14for the uh changing fiscal environment that we're in. Uh one thing that is for certain The mobility fee ordinance must be effective January one, twenty twenty six because December thirty one, twenty twenty five ends our current mobility fee schedules.

   StarkeyChair

   1:37:29Oh.

   Oakley

   1:37:30So this has to be effective January one. Which means We can't miss Correct. Which means that uh We're looking at the local planning agency seeing the mobility fee update study potentially probably in July according to schedule. With the first BCC hearing happening on the subject in August and the second one following that following on the heels of that at the second August meeting. so that we can give enough time to do system updates within the cella and get prepared for the January

   1:38:001 effective date. At a minimum, we just need to get fiscal 26 mobility fee tables, or excuse me, calendar year 26 mobility fee tables in on January 1, and then we can follow up with the 2027, 2028, 2029 schedules thereafter. But in effect this Mobility Fee Update study will be mapping out the mobility fee schedules for twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, and twenty twenty nine. Okay. Just like the twenty one update did uh everything else.

   StarkeyChair

   1:38:30We need to put that revenue against our our vision map. Our

   1:38:37see if we can build the roads we need.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:38:39Let them check.

   StarkeyChair

   1:38:40Where's that coming from? Yeah.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:38:41So look at it the influx of apartments, especially the Wesley Chapel area. I don't know if we collect enough from apartments. for these mobility fees. Is there a way to look closely at that? Because you get working people usually. They're out in and out every day, twice a day, three times a day, whatever it may be, evenings sometimes, but at least prime time with at peak hours where everything's based upon where big traffic is. I want you to take a close look at that. I don't think it just should be based

   1:39:12on square footage, but pretty much what's the real impact because they have had a dramatic effect. And I and frankly, if there's a way to consider uh with this impact where if live local is passed by the time this goes on, I think that's another impact that should be factored in because other people are gonna pay us taxes on property tax where we can actually re reimburse. These guys don't. Yeah. And maybe that's something that should be looked at as well.

   StarkeyChair

   1:39:36Can you actually go ahead and send all the commissioners the mobility fee? schedule but who pays what and who doesn't pay anything.

   Oakley

   1:39:47Yes, actually you can find it on I I'll send it to you all. Uh but it it is online and I can uh just send it I can send it to you. And uh as far as the multifamily piece, um right now there is no incentive being applied to multifamily it's the straight cost on mobility fees. It's it hits

   StarkeyChair

   1:40:09And

   Oakley

   1:40:09um

   StarkeyChair

   1:40:09uh hotels have uh

   Oakley

   1:40:11uh

   StarkeyChair

   1:40:12reduction? There's it's zero for industrial

   Oakley

   1:40:15Those are the preferred land uses. You're right. There's a certain set of preferred land uses where the mobility fee is currently set at zero dollars. We're it's a hundred percent subsidized.

   StarkeyChair

   1:40:24So I I just think we need to look at everything. We need to s see what we're getting and see the cost of the roads we need and figure out If we're doing the right thing.

   1:40:36We don't we people need to are gonna be i in in ten years we need more roads. I mean we just flat need more roads. So we need to make be sure that we're bu building our road network like we need to.

   Oakley

   1:40:52Who are you looking at?

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:40:57Well while he doesn't, Madam Chairman comment about apartments. Something I want to make sure and I've tied the conversation with staff and I think they agree. But from here on through with all the apartments, we want to make sure we have our park requirements fully set up. Yep. We want to make sure we have all our um minimized appearances. What's that?

   StarkeyChair

   1:41:16Did you see in the Senate bill that's proposed they can have twenty percent less parking?

   1:41:24I mean they they don't even have to have one parking space per unit.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:41:30So park park parking is an issue we're gonna do. I know there's

   Mike Carballa

   1:41:33discussion being had on that issue.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:41:41What if we've got a park ordinance in place that's gonna be fulfilled. Right. What if we have a renewal land development code, buffers, et cetera just

   StarkeyChair

   1:41:50And up to ten stories.

   Yeager

   1:41:51And up another thing to your um less parking, then we also uh yeah I'd love to tackle another day, but predatory towing because what these people do is they walk up and down the aisles. So these people in the townhouses and the apartments, if they have someone visiting and they don't have a sticker, they tow them right away.

   StarkeyChair

   1:42:08Well, they won't have any visitors because there won't be parking for them. Uh i if if Live Local goes through. Yeah.

   Unidentified speakerVoice F

   1:42:15Just to reiterate what Terry said, um we are charging apartments the maximum that we can currently charge. Now, as part of our mobility fee update, we are gonna be looking at cost increases. To the extent we have cost increases, we will make sure we're passing those on to the apartments just like we would any other use. But You we can continue to draw our departments the maximum possible. That's a given thing.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:42:40That's a given whether they legal I just wanna make sure that whatever studies you're using uh are legit because literally the traffic we have out there from these apartments is breaking down our roads.

   StarkeyChair

   1:42:51Um I have a question on the

   Unidentified speakerVoice F

   1:42:52It is based on the latest IT trip generation, so we will make sure that it's all that's why we do an update every four years is to make sure we're capturing all those costs and increases in traffic.

   StarkeyChair

   1:43:02A a question on if um these come in and they're off the tax rolls. Um are they so are they off the tax rolls for property tax, but are they still on the tax rolls for tangible tax?

   Unidentified speakerVoice F

   1:43:16Um it's uh it's I believe so.

   1:43:22So I wanna be clear We don't currently have any Lib Local projects that are off the tax rolls.

   1:43:30The first two that were applied for were denied by the property preserve. Um and then we opted out after that. So as long as we continue to opt out

   1:43:41But I think they're taking

   Yeager

   1:43:42that away. They as of right now it is there is no opt out. Yeah, they're taking that away. I I don't even think it's on the table. The House is hearing it.

   Unidentified speakerVoice F

   1:43:50So I think we're talking about two different issues. Um The op the the bill that would have limited our ability to opt out, my understanding from Ralph is not moving. The other bill that that makes the land use preemption worse is moving and has gone through the Senate. And it I don't know where it is in the house. I can get Ralph up here and he can help us out with that. But there was two different bills. One was gonna limit our opt out, the other was going to limit what we do on land use. Okay. Only

   1:44:20one of those is moving. So we still maybe have an

   StarkeyChair

   1:44:23opt down?

   Unidentified speakerVoice F

   1:44:25My understanding and for opt one. Yeah, that's my my understanding

   Mike Carballa

   1:44:29yeah, our understanding is is that an opt out provision will still be allowed.

   1:44:35That's that's brand new today. Oh,

   StarkeyChair

   1:44:37brand new today? Yes. Okay, that's good. Well I I I I got a call on Mr. All Britain. So

   Unidentified speakerVoice F

   1:44:42Well i if if there if the bill that hurts us on the opt out is moving, somebody needs to tell me that 'cause that's that would be news to me. Yeah, this is literally. Okay. Well

   David Engel

   1:44:52we'll we'll

   Mike Carballa

   1:44:52have a bit since we're talking about it.

   StarkeyChair

   1:44:55Okay. That's good. All right. Um yes, please mail the uh the current mobility fee, the way it breaks out to everybody for their knowledge in Anything else?

   Mike Carballa

   1:45:07That's it.

   StarkeyChair

   1:45:07Okay, very good.

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