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CAO-23-2705

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Heard once, at the Board of County Commissioners on Aug 22, 2023.

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First Amendment To Billboard Relocation And Reconstruction Agreement

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    Board of County CommissionersC10Consent agendaNo disposition in the minutes
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    Jack MarianoChair

    So on the agenda items we got I'm gonna ask that we do C thirty three last. Uh so we'll go to C ten. Elizabeth Elizabeth Blair?

    attorney to the tourist development council

    Good morning, Commissioner. It's Elizabeth Lair, Pasco County Attorney's Office. This matter was pulled and revised just for some clarification and also to change one of the facts in the agreement. Clarification is on the page of the agenda memorandum where the sentence is and has been included that reads as follows: the digital faces will consist of one 672 square foot face and four 300 square foot faces. That's referring to the digital billboard conversions provided. Provided for in this amendment to the agreement. I wanted the amount the memo to be consistent with the actual terms of exhibit B

    of the agreement. And then also I wanted to fix the uh whereas clause on the actual First Amendment to reflect that the billboard structure to be relocated along 54 is actually moving west on 54 and not south on the Gunn Highway. It's gonna go to the Lowe's parcel that's currently under plans for consent. construction there and there is frontage on both uh gun highway and fifty four the billboard structure is going to be moving from seventy five feet to the east to the west then onto the Lowe's property. Are there any questions?

    Well yes.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Okay. I mean Mr.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Starkey

    Kathryn Starkey

    Yeah I was talking to Elizabeth about this yesterday. It's It's my preference that they come down, but apparently this was already done. And um But how many will come down as we're

    attorney to the tourist development council

    the total number of billboard structures to be removed will be 11 under this amendment to the first agreement. In the memo, I've actually included some background facts about how a total of the 23 registered billboards so far have come down that Clear Channel owned. So this program of removal and replacement of certain ones with digital is is working. We are seeing some fruits of the of the effort here. So it's a slow process over the years, but it is working, especially with Clear Channel. They've been really great partners

    in this matter.

    Kathryn Starkey

    So I I I just want to emphasize that when we in my opinion, when we have the opportunity When development comes and the billboard has to come down like it did uh fifty four and little That The contract just needs to end with

    Upper Um it to be moved somewhere else. I mean we have that opportunity to just sunset that billboard. Okay. And and that's a great way for us to start cleaning up the county. And Commissioner, I I heard that maybe you had passed some billboards that maybe had some content on it that You know, we don't always wanna see, but we cannot regulate The content of what goes on these right?

    attorney to the tourist development council

    That that is correct. I mean there are First Amendment cond you know, restrictions on the county. county.

    Kathryn Starkey

    We can

    attorney to the tourist development council

    we can regulate location, we can regulate

    Kathryn Starkey

    it's But sometimes we have some content that Maybe some of us don't think should be in neighborhoods, but

    Ron OakleyVice Chair

    Move approval. Yeah. With

    Jack MarianoChair

    the noted changes? Okay. And just uh Elizabeth, just I just want to make a comment as well. Um how many billboats have been taken down in US nineteen?

    attorney to the tourist development council

    Oh gosh, the total number that can be removed from US nineteen or have been removed?

    Jack MarianoChair

    Have been.

    attorney to the tourist development council

    I I don't know the answer to that. Denise Hernandez might know, but she's not available in the room right now.

    Jack MarianoChair

    I mean I I

    attorney to the tourist development council

    I can find out for you.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Okay. Maybe there's a discussion point for later on. But I I don't think many have become down just because I think the ratio

    attorney to the tourist development council

    There's a particular number of conversions that are tied to each of our roads so you don't end up with a lot of digitals along 54. When the original program was created back in uh 2016, I believe, um, that was kind of a let's just allow X number of digital faces along.

    uh c you know co a a whole bunch of them along like US nineteen for example. So we did then tie the requirements for takedown between the uh the FAP roads and the non-FAP roads to try to get some of the

    Kathryn Starkey

    Uh explain to the commissioners what an FAP road is.

    attorney to the tourist development council

    Um those are the federal um

    Kathryn Starkey

    federal aid primaries.

    attorney to the tourist development council

    Yeah they're they're they're just classifications of road basically before for purposes of F D OT and and so forth. So the program was kind of set up in a way to make sure that all the districts saw something happen, you know, in their districts. And also to recognize that the industry itself has numbers that they're looking for, and they have to evaluate the number of views for digital to actually say, hey, there's a certain volume of cars that go by, so it's worthy of taking down these non-used billboards and other areas that aren't. As well seen to then focus

    their efforts on certain areas of the county where there's a lot more traffic because the digital billboards are so expensive. Some And we can always revisit the program if you all, you know, want to going forward. Well,

    Kathryn Starkey

    the the the other thing to remember is as we um are working to um landscape and revitalize nineteen that when you see an island that doesn't have the palm trees on it, it's because there's a billboard. On the other side of the street. And we can't block The view of that billboard with the palm trees. On certain roads, that is correct. On FAP roads, federal aid primary

    Jack MarianoChair

    So I I wouldn't mind doing a little bit more, getting more information as far as what's happened on nineteen, bring something back to us and just show us the effects 'cause maybe something we we want to take a relook at 'cause I don't know about you but I don't see anything different with the a lookout there and I

    Kathryn Starkey

    think there's

    Jack MarianoChair

    potential.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Yeah. Well the ones they take down are the little ones that you didn't really even notice. That weren't getting ads on them, you know? True.

    attorney to the tourist development council

    They're they're allowed to pull down the inventory that's not as profitable or as that is that is actually falling into disrepair, take those down, get rid of them, um as part of the conversion agreements. Yeah. All right. Thank you.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Thank you. Do we have a second? Oh we have a second, yes. Yes, you have a second. Motion a second.

    Kathryn Starkey

    District One, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford. District five Chairman Mariano.