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3 appearances between Oct 2, 2025 and Nov 12, 2025, at 2 boards.

OutcomeNo action by the Board of County Commissioners on Oct 21, 2025
No action was required as this was the first public hearing. The adoption hearing was scheduled for the November 12, 2025 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Dade City.

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An Ordinance By The Pasco County Board Of County Commissioners Amending The Pasco County Land Development Code Section 530.5 Parking Or Storing Of Recreational Vehicles; Section 530.16 Parking And Storage Of Commercial Vehicles And Commercial Equipment In Certain Residential Areas Prohibited; And Other Sections As Necessary, For Internal Consistency; Providing For Applicability; Repealer; Providing For Severability; Inclusion Into The Land Development Code, And An Effective Date.

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    Planning CommissionPC7Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes
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    Charles GreyChair

    And welcome today. Mr. Hernandez.

    Denise

    Mm.

    Hello. All right. So um this item, Denise Hernandez, uh Code Compliance Department. This is your last item on the agenda, I'm hoping, and it is CC260001. This is Land Development Code Amendment 80, which is really this is a glitch amendment to be honest with you. So these amendments were presented to the Horizontal Roundtable Interested Parties meeting on September 17, 2025, by my esteemed colleagues Elizabeth Blair and Sam Boundy

    with the County Attorney's Office. I was on vacation, so I wasn't able to be there. So, first we're gonna start with the first section, and these are truly glitches, and as I'm here with code compliance, it was because this is an item that came through our code compliance department, and we found that there were some issues with the land development code that needed to be addressed. So the first section is we're making some modifications to section 530.5, which is parking or storing of recreational vehicles, and this section uh just clarifies that parking is storing storing of recreational vehicles

    in the right of way is prohibited in all zoning designations. Let me show you the strike through underline section, the or the red line section, which is your first attach your attachment one on your packet. So basically the same language with some clarification because we now have um other things that occur in the right-of-way, such as multi-use trails and bicycle lanes and those type of things. But as you can see, this section used to reside under C, which only applied to residentially

    zoned property that's less than one acre or ER. So now it applies countywide. So no recreational vehicle shall be parked or stored on the right-of-way. No portion of any right of any RV shall extend over or interfere with the use of any sidewalk, multi-use trail, bicycle lane, and/or right-of-way intended for vehicular traffic. So we're just moving it from a subsection that only applies to residential districts into the general broad range. and um updating it to include that, you know, we

    now have uh multi-use trails and th and those other things that occur in the right of way.

    So the next section that we're modifying is um very similar except that now we're uh talking about commercial vehicles. So it's 530.16. Uh this is in supplemental regulations and 530. And this is parking and storage of commercial vehicles and commercial equipment in certain residential areas prohibited. So now we're now adding MPUD, Master Plan Unit Development District, to the list of districts where commercial vehicle parking is prohibited. So going to the strike through underline section of

    that. So basically we're just clarifying that no commercial vehicles and no commercially related equipment shall be permitted to be parked or stored in any areas of unincorporated county, including county-owned right-of-way. As you could and as you can see, we're adding MPUD Master Plan Unit Development District. There is um just want to clarify that um the second Piece that's kind of SNP there, always clarified that except when such commercial vehicles and equipment are being utilized as part of a business lawfully operating in the said zoning

    districts. So as you know, MPUDs do have residential and commercial components. This these com this comment that's coming in the next slide came from the horizontal round table because they wanted to make sure that this Was not going to affect businesses. So we added this underlying red area that shows an E or the new E. Nothing in this section is intended to prohibit the lawful use of commercially zoned property as approved in the applicable site plan

    or on designated commercial areas within the MPUD. So the horizontal roundtable felt that this section was needed to th this language was needed to clarify the general intent. So those are the changes that are being proposed with this. Again, it's a minor modification. We're asking that you find the proposed ordinance amendments consistent with the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan. And these are scheduled to go to the Board of County Commissioners for first reading on the 21st

    of October at 1.30 in Newport Ritchie and for adoption on November 12th at 1.30 in Dade City. And that's all I have for you today. Okay.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Any questions? Yeah. Denise, can you back up to the last one?

    Denise

    Absolutely. Do you want to see five thirty

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    point one six?

    Denise

    Did you okay,

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    sure. Th I was just a c curiosity question. I'm in the one, two, third line down. It says R-2 M H rural density mobile home. PUD PLAND Unit Development and then you add M PUD Yes. Do we have a PUD Plan?

    Denise

    So they we did, um, and that's a r that's an excellent question. So the PUD district was a district that was sunseted on or around 2008, but there's still PUDs that exist out there that are still PUDs that have uh been have been platted, have gone through all the site plan review, et cetera. Um so that's why that section is still cook um included in there.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    But when we sunset it, we didn't take away their existing PUD zone and it was still there.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Some substantive difference between the PUD and

    Denise

    the

    DC.

    Yes, very, very big difference. Um so basically a PUD district, Planned Unit Development District, is a district where you're approving the zoning and the site plan at the same time. So the zoning and the site plan came in together and it was being approved. by the back then DRC and BCC.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    And then Back to the

    Denise

    So you didn't have in PUDs you didn't have bubble plans. You had the entire site plan and even the plat and everything was all being done in one suit.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    And then back to the R V parking.

    This is more a question for David.

    in an effort to avoid drawing a potential legal challenge. Is there a place in the code of ordinances that might be a safer place to add this prohibition of R V parking in the right of way? I'm not opposed to this. I'm just saying this is in the land development code so someone could make the S B one eighty claim whereas if it was in the code

    of ordinances just under parking then maybe you have some safe harbor.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    I mean I do think it could have gone on the code of ordinance. Um

    I mean, but it's also kind of a land development regulation as well, because as a site plan comes in, we would if somebody showed R V parking in the right-of-way we probably shouldn't be approving it 'cause it It would violate the section of the code. So

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    But if you had a countywide ordinance that said you can't park your R vehicle right away, then it wouldn't be the same thing.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Yeah, I'm just saying that the people in development review aren't necessarily reviewing against the code of ordinance. So they wouldn't necessarily What I'm

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    getting is

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    if you're in

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    may I phrase it a different way. If there is a countywide prohibition of in the code of ordinances of parking and RV in the right of way than one then the county probably would not agree an A site plan approval or an M V U D approval to approve R V parking in a right of way if there's already a law against it, right?

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    That's a pat this is a Patrick Dutter question. 'Cause I I don't know whether when they're reviewing a site plan the parking on a site plan if they are looking at

    If they're only looking at what the land development code allows, or if they're also looking at what the code of ordinances allows.

    Denise

    And if I may to clarify some of that, there is some prohibitions in the code of ordinances. However, code of ordinances, those prohibitions have to do with class of parking violations, and they all refer to passenger vehicles. This is for recreational vehicles. So that's my that's not saying it couldn't go in there. It's just where it exists already, it it relates to um violations. violations and it has to do with passenger vehicles, not with recreational

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    vehicles.

    Even if you added this prohibition in the code of ordinance, you'd have a conflict between the two if you didn't amend the land development code.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Right, but then you would

    Just take all of this out of the land development code so that you don't have a conflict.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    I mean if the only I understand you're raising a Senate Bill 180 issue, but I mean if if if the only issue was enforcement Our code enforcement folks can enforce either one. They don't need doesn't matter whether it's land development code or code ordinance, they can enforce both. I understand. I understand you're trying to protect us from a Senate Bill one eighty issue. Um But this is the least of our problems understand a bill. I mean I I I d I'm I

    if somebody tries to challenge us under Shinable One E, we're gonna raise all the same defenses we would raise on any challenge under Shinonville one eighty.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    So a hurricane victim can park the R D in the right away?

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Yeah.

    If the

    Connected City

    That

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    was

    Connected City

    coming on

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    for a while. Yeah, I mean it's for a limited window of time, okay. Um but arguably yes, if they were trying to rebuild after hurricane and they needed to temporarily park their R V in the right away, they might be able to invoke the

    Denise

    That preemption.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    The preemption. Yes.

    But my argument would be that maybe they need to do that to have a place to park their RV while they're rebuilding it. That maybe that is an appropriate use of the R180. I mean I would argue maybe if that if that's what they need to happen to get their property rebuilt. Yeah, we're not probably a legitimate use of sending a

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    one

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    eighty.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    I think after her Helene and Milton we had this issue and the BCC told the people you can't park your RVs in the right if you can park 'em on your front yard. And you could park them, and there was a state law that allowed them to park their RVs on the front yard while they go through the rebuilding effort, but the board made it very clear that they couldn't park them in the right-of-way or block the right-of-way with them.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    But what I'm saying is is that to the extent this is more stringent and to the extent this regulation would prevent somebody who's trying to rebuild after Hurricane

    I would argue they should be able to invoke the exception.

    Denise

    I if I may also, um as it's written right now, all those pro For the most part, all those properties that were affected by Hurricane Milt um Helene and Hurricane Milton, um they already cover they they would have already had to admit that. So if you see C and this is sub six, I probably should have put one, two, three, four, and five as well. But it does say on residentially zoned property. Residentially zoned property by definition in our land development code are those pieces of property that are zoned R1, R2, R2 M

    H, R one M H, R three, R four, E R. Um, so they would no R V shall be parked or stored in the right-of-way. So that would have also always

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    They were already prohibited.

    Denise

    They're already prohibited. The only

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    one that maybe wouldn't be is if they were in an M P U D.

    Denise

    That's correct. And and the code enforcement issue that I'm dealing with is related to an MPUD.

    Connected City

    So AR and larger than one acre.

    Denise

    Yes. That's that's accurate.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    And if any of them truly were damaged by a hurricane and they're trying to rebuild, yes, they would be able to Chances are if they have more than an acre they

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    have less than

    the right-of-way.

    It was a question about is there a place so that we don't draw a challenge. I'm not opposed to this in any.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    I'm I don't think that's should be a reason the only re the reason just is throw it into the code of ordinance.

    Denise

    In additionally, I do have uh both Elizabeth Bayer and Sam Boundy with the County Attorney's Office. They should be on if they have any comments about it. uh regarding the the enforcement section, particularly with Sam Boundy, because he's w we're dealing with this in in an enforcement capacity.

    Connected City

    Yeah, 'cause I was wondering the logistics of it too, 'cause um, you know, it doesn't I don't I don't think there's anywhere in the land ordinances that deal with um vehicles like actual transport, personal conveyance. This is just RV.

    Denise

    That's correct. Yeah. This what the sections I was mentioning, you're right, they're passenger vehicles.

    Connected City

    Yeah, the passenger vehicles are dealt with in the ordinance as opposed to so that's why I was wondering, you know, kind of along his question line of questioning, what is the most logistical place to keep you know, in theory we should have Have an ordinance on both the passenger vehicles and the RVs in one spot. So, would it make more sense for that to be in the land development code than one passenger vehicle?

    Denise

    Well, um let me tell you, and and uh and maybe and and I don't want to overstep Sam Boundy, who's our county prosecutor. Um code of ordinance typically, for the most part, the Sheriff's Office handles those cla those parking violations. Um I'm not saying that the Sheriff's Office cannot handle land development code violations, but typically they handle more code of ordinance and Florida statute.

    Connected City

    Yeah, it's just weird, you know, if you park in the street in a passenger vehicle, one department handles it, and if you par have your boat parked in the street, then somebody else handles it.

    Denise

    Well, it in actuality, really, there is a section in in 900 that does talk about parking the passenger vehicle in the right-of-way. When you kinda like, and I'm sure John probably remembers this part where you kind of go over the sidewalk, you know how you're parking your vehicle in your driveway. and you're overlapping into the sidewalk area off your driveway into the apron area, that's addressed in the land development code as well.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    So Mr. Dutter escaped. He never got up and answered my question.

    My I still would like an answer, which is if a prohibition on parking only resides in the Code of Ordinances and not in the Land Development Code, would your department

    review for that.

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    A prohibition on a certain type of parking?

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Yeah. So for example, let's just say the the prohibition on no RV parking in the right of way or or any of these provisions that Denise just talked about. If those only resided in the code of ordinance Can you get a site plan in?

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    Sure.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Would you be reviewing it to see if it did or didn't comply with that?

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    We generally stick to the land development code and what's in the land development code. We generally don't look in code of ordinances for those types of things. Um and when we're talking about parking within the right of way, um it's it's rare. Well I mean it happens, but I mean um specific parking spaces within the rights of way. So dedicated spaces. Uh I would assume we're talking about dedicated spaces in the right of way.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Well presume uh the where this would arise is somebody was trying to use the right of way to count towards the required parking spaces.

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    If if there is dedicated parking spots, we generally let them use those towards their parking requirements. There is no dedicated parking spots, we generally don't let them use um like right of way, um like the fifty foot right-of-way as to meet their parking requirements.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    What I was going to suggest, David, was

    You can't circumvent an ordinance by asking for a site clan approval. So for instance, we have in our ordinance is that you can't let your grass grow more than x many inches ti high. You can't go in in a site plan approval and say, well I'm gonna let the grass grow five feet high over here.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    I don't disagree, but the problem is is that and I don't want to get into all the nuances, is that that if Patrick goes and then approves it, notwithstanding that violation of the code of ordinance is it does make it more difficult for us to enforce.

    Because now they're going to argue that Pat Well Patrick gave his stamp of approval to this. Sounds like Patrick better read the code of ordinance. Which is fairness. But that's my point, is that is that I think his department is primarily reviewing the land development code. They're not reviewing the code of ordinances. And I'm saying that I think from an enforcement standpoint, we can enforce either. That's it. That's something that's going to be a good idea.

    Joel

    John, I guess what what what is the concern with keeping in the land development code? Just simply the Senate Bill one eighty stuff or

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Yeah, my my only issue again, I'm have zero objection to this whole prohibition of parking RBs. All I'm asking is is it bet is it better placed in the code of ordinance? Senate Bill one eighty Does not at least by my understanding of that bill, maybe Bidave will have a different thing. You're right-you're correct. It does not apply to it does not apply to your county ordinances, it applies to your comprehensive plan, your land development code, and

    your internal policies. about those documents. It doesn't apply to the code of ordinances, so you can simply put this in the code of ordinances and avoid any possibility of somebody coming and give you g giving you a S B one hundred eighty challenge. Again, I not object to this in any way, shape or form.

    Planning and Development staff

    Well I I mean I think this has probably made it here because there are problems and I think we need to get it in in part of the code part of the land development code now and if there is some kind of challenge we can always

    Brian Junker

    go the ordinance route down the road, correct?

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Yeah, I mean if it gets challeng if that's this if somebody challenges this particular regulation, I guess you we could just throw it in the code of ordinance. Hello? But I'm not gonna do that unless I lose my ten constitutional arguments first. So they got a big uphill battle decline before they're gonna get that declared as a violation of Senate Bill 180.

    Connected City

    But wouldn't it make most more sense to have mirroring language in both?

    That way it's covered in the Land Development Code, it's covered in the code of ordinances.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Because I uh I don't I guess I'm gonna let Denise or Sam weigh in on that.

    Connected City

    Or you can refer to one or the other. Have it in there but refer to what you know have it in the code land development code but refer to the

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Yeah I mean my concern with not having land development code is I think with all due respect to Patrick his ta staff is going to probably miss it.

    Connected City

    No but you could you could specifically refer to um you know as according to the code

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    of ordinance. The code of ordinance may already have a general prohibition on that sort of incorporates everything in the land development. Oh but I'm gonna I don't know if Sam's on or Denise knows, like I'm pretty but I'm pretty confident that we enforce code does enforce violations of the land development code.

    Denise

    Absolutely. Yes.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    That's great. I don't the Sam Bay from the County Attorney's Office. I don't believe that the code ordinance has any reference to incorporating the L B C D, but I mean I agree generally with what Denise and David have been saying.

    We already had a mass prohibition on storing RB to right away we're just crazy. We're we're just bringing it county wide as opposed to some specific zillion districts. So I think MQD are really the folks that are going to be affected. Arguably with all those residential districts, it's not going to be more restricted as was already appropriately.

    Connected City

    So so couldn't you just refer to that particular ordinance in this section?

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    No, I

    think

    Sam is saying it's it's prohibited in the land development code of it. Okay, it's not

    a

    good I think what he's saying is the the code of ordinance doesn't really regulate this this issue currently.

    Denise

    Yes.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    We do have um Chapter 106, traffic in vehicles. It's mostly just regular parking violations, parking on sidewalk, parking in front of the driveway without the owner's consent, parking crosswalks, but it doesn't necessarily touch on RV, parking storage. Yeah.

    Denise

    And remember that our uh recreational vehicles in our land development code are very broadly defined. So these include not only your typical like fifth wheel, these are also boat trailers, trailers, and this is what we've been seeing. People are parking on on street parking spaces in the right-of-way, just the trailer that carries the boat.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Yeah. Again there's no objection to regulation. It's only can you provide safe harbor from a legal challenge under that particular Senate bill. That's all.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    If it gets that far, and I'm not sure it will, um could probably just move all of our parking regulations to the code of ordinance as I but Okay. Oh.

    They're c if they file that claim in Pasco County, they are going to have a mountain to climb before they get that far. That's all I'm gonna tell you.

    Charles GreyChair

    That's enough for me.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Not

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    saying they can't climb it, I'm just saying it's gonna be

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    a mountain. Why do you climb Mount Everest? Because it's there.

    Denise

    I tell you if I climb a mountain I wanna be on David's team climbing the mountain. Not on the team that's against David.

    Connected City

    I'll let you be my Sherpa.

    Joel

    I'll make a motion to approve.

    Charles GreyChair

    I'll second it. We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed by sign. Thank you. Thank you, Denise.

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    Board of County CommissionersP66Public hearingNo action
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    No action was required as this was the first public hearing. The adoption hearing was scheduled for the November 12, 2025 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in Dade City.

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    6m
    Ron Oakley

    P sixty six. Proof of publication, Tampa Bay Times, September 17, 2025, P sixty-six.

    Denise

    Good afternoon, Commissioner Starise Hernandez with the Code Compliance Department. Item P66, just to let you know, this is a glitch amendment. Today we are not I am not asking for a um for any action from the board, just to please uh take public comment. And this is the Land Development Code Amendment 80. It is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County Land Development Code, Section 530.5, parking or storing of recreational vehicles,

    Section 530.16, parking and storage of commercial vehicles and commercial equipment in certain residential areas prohibited, and other sections as necessary for internal consistency, providing for applicability, repealer, providing for severability, inclusion into land development code, and an effective date. Mm-hmm. Again, this is Land Development Code Amendment 80. These were presented to the Horizontal Roundtable and Interested Parties meeting on September 17, 2025. They did provide comment and we made changes based on the comments that were provided. On October 2nd,

    2025, the local planning agency found the proposed amendments consistent with the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan. And going through these amendments fairly quickly because these are just glitches and these are items that came about as a result of a code compliance case. The first change is in Chapter 500 zoning, section 530, 530.5, parking and storing of recreational vehicles. We just wanted to make it absolutely abundantly clear that parking and storing of recreational vehicles

    are not allowed over the right-of-way in any zoning district. Previously, it just called out that there were certain zoning districts where it was prohibited in. That was clearly a get a glitch. It should be that it's not allowed in any right-of-way of any zoning district within Pasco County. Yeah. The following uh portion is five thirty point six parking and storage of recreational vehicles and parking and storage storage of commercial vehicles, sorry, and commercial equipment in residential areas. That was also

    a glitch. We wanted to make sure that MPUD Master Plan Unit Development District was in there. PUD Plan Unit Development District was in there, but not MPUD. That should have always been in there. Also include the pat the county owned right-of-way. And then this is one of the concerns that the horizontal roundtable had that it might Prohibit um the uh usage of commer that stating that uh someone is not in compliance if they're parking a a commercial vehicle in a commercially zoned

    portion of an MPUD. And we want to make it clear that that's not a violation, that that's okay. So those are the changes that we're making. Again, today we're not asking for any um action from you. Just please accept public comment. And this is set for adoption on November 12, 2025 at 1.30 PM in Dade City. And I'm here for any questions that you may have.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Well, I this is another God speed on this because we're fixing some big problems that are happening. If you if you ever drive on rangeland in Starkey Ranch, um people are parking. Their commercial Trucks and boats and all their work vehicles on our roads. They've got campers. They're you they're using our parking spaces uh instead of putting them in in storage places. So um,

    Denise

    yeah, and as Commissioner Starkey stated, uh and I do want to mention, I do want to thank uh both Sam Boundy and Elizabeth Blair uh for their assistant with assistance with this. It's been very they've been very helpful. Maybe we

    Lisa Yeager

    can

    Denise

    speak.

    Lisa Yeager

    Huh? No one's signed it.

    Denise

    Oh

    Lisa Yeager

    no one signed it. And there's no action right here. Can I just ask a question? Yeah, we'll take public.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Yeah. Go

    Lisa Yeager

    ahead. Okay. So if someone, let's say they work for Stanley Steamer and that's their work vehicle, are they allowed to park it in their driveway?

    Denise

    No. Yeah. That's parking a commercial vehicle in a residential district.

    Lisa Yeager

    Gotcha.

    Denise

    Um I think it I think it depends on what it is. What it they can park it while they're doing business. So like for example, let's say they're cleaning the carpet or doing some type of cleaning in that location, they can park it while they're doing that, but not park it overnight.

    Lisa Yeager

    So some people that are just struggling getting on their feet and they they work for a company, they'll give them a company trust. To use just as transportation to get to and from work and stuff like that. So in that instance, they're not servicing their home, but they're using that as transportation to get to work.

    Denise

    They could park it inside the garage. Somewhere where it's not visible. Um it but the just to just to clarify, the code is not changing that. It's always been that way. So it's not We're not modifying it to make it that way.

    Lisa Yeager

    So they can't park their work vehicle in the driveway.

    Denise

    And like both the whole state. Um

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Um what was I just gonna say? Um we have people parking semi trucks. Uh Mr. Carbal and I were driving around their parking semi trucks in our parking spaces. So um in in front of um our blueberry farm that's you know being um developed, we have three Um right now we have three storage trailers that the kind you hook behind your truck to move or you know, but and they say advertise

    here and they've been there for months sitting in our parking spaces. Um I say they're abandoned and we should tow them, but Um okay, so is there anyone else here who would like to speak to this ordinance today?

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    Board of County CommissionersP63Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes
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    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Yes. Thank you so much for all your work on the chickens. P sixty-three.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    P63, we have proof of publication of the hearing of this matter in the September 17th, 2025 edition of the Tampa Bay Times.

    Denise

    Good afternoon, Commissioner. Denise Hernandez, Code Compliance Department. Uh to date is the adoption hearing on this item. This item was uh there was a full presentation on October twenty-first of this item. This item was presented to the local planning agency who found The ordinance consistent with the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, and it was also presented to the horizontal round table interested parties meeting on September 17, 2025. So today I ask that you adopt by roll call vote.

    It's an ordinance by the Pasco County, except public comment, of course, and then adopt by roll call vote, hopefully. An ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County Land Development Code, Section 534. five parking or storing of recreational vehicles, Section 530.16 parking and storage of commercial vehicles and commercial equipment in certain certain residential areas prohibited, and other sections as necessary for internal consistency, providing for applicability, repealer, providing for several, inclusion into inclusion into the land development code and an effective date. Again, ask

    that you adopt accept public comment, adopt by roll call vote, and I'm here for any questions that you may have.

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    Chair.

    Denise

    Yeah.

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    So uh Commissioner Yeager brought this up when we discussed this last time and started looking further into it and spoke with the County Administrator about this yesterday. The employ the employer employee markets have changed and commercial Commercial vehicles are smaller. Some people use them as regular family cars. You see them in lines when kids take 'em to schools are just not wrapped with, you know, mics they see on there. They just be plain clothes,

    right? And And for employers that allow some of their employees to take their work vans or utility vehicle, it's not an oversized vehicle home. The reasons for that is their van may be loaded for that week or that project for the first three, four days of the of the week and they can go from home to the job site and come back. Which it takes less traffic going to and from their jobs their day you know, where their office is for commute and what have you. So

    I'm I'm torn with this because because that's just the nature of the market. So if they think

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    that's what this is addressing.

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    No, it doesn't allow them to park it at their home because they're commercial business.

    Denise

    Um it that that is already not allowed by the regular ordinance. All this is clarifying is that they can't be parked in the in the county right of way and they can't be parked in M P U D. The

    So for I'm not sure.

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    Down the line. I don't know.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    What's going on on this and and here in Starkey Ranch and other developments that have

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    on

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    street parking

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    it happens in that one

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    on on main roads is people are bringing their boats their four-wheel what are those trucks that they they have the cabin

    Denise

    semi-tractor trailers.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Semi-tractor trailers.

    Denise

    Yeah.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    There are these And they are parking them along Starkey.

    Denise

    Yeah, they're using on street parking spaces that are still for people who live there to park their number one. That's why we're modifying 530.5. Again, this was a code compliance issue for recreational vehicles. So that basically what people are bringing is their boat trailers, just putting the boat trailer in an on-street parking space.

    Boat trailers. They're also doing as com uh commission commissioner Starkey stated, that's why we're modifying 530.16. They're also bringing their semi-tractor trailers, their tow trucks, etc., and they're parking them in on street parking spaces that are dedicated for just regular passenger vehicles to park there, residents to

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    park there. And the residents guess uh in front of our blueberry farm which is converting to residential community We have on street parking that um our family donated. to make the so that there will be parking spaces that will be um counted in for the apartments that will go there one day. And we have had for a couple months now three people parking their work trailers there. You know the kind you put behind a truck? Like a lawnmower company or whatever? And they've it they've

    le they've been leaving them there for months.

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    That's what this is addressing. I think that happens in Avalon Park. It's been a consistent issue. But Okay.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    That yours is a nice.

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    Maybe

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    maybe

    Mike Carballa

    all right. Well no, what I was gonna ask Denise, but what the commissioner is referring to is also covered in this portion of the ordinance, and so if the board wants to take that up,

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    you're all the way crazy then. No, you're not. Okay, thank you.

    Lisa Yeager

    Yeah, because I have a note here too.

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    Yeah.

    Denise

    Yes. Yeah, I just wanted to make it clear that we're not really modifying not parking commercial vehicles and residential because that's already it's already in the code. See the only thing that's being modified here is what's included in un b bold red underline. Okay. So everything else is regular code.

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    But back to since this since this code is up. the board's willing I'm open to to readdressing uh the people's work vehicles It you know, they could be used also as a family van essentially if they're similar that they should be able to park them at at their house and not be cited.

    Denise

    So Commissioner, I think that might be a little simpler, which is perhaps we can work on modifying the definition of a commercial vehicle.

    Amanda Hill

    Okay.

    Denise

    And that would handle that. Thank

    Lisa Yeager

    you.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Yeah,

    Ron Oakley

    I don't know.

    Denise

    If that

    Ron Oakley

    makes

    Denise

    sense.

    Ron Oakley

    Yeah, okay.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    keep moving with this because we gotta deal with this issue and right now we can't do anything. The sheriff can't do anything. The communities can't do anything. We can't do anything. All right. So is there anyone here in the public that wishes to speak to this issue?

    Okay. Um uh Denise, I have a a question for you because um you know we've been working with the Starkey Rant C D. Um How does it and this may be a David Goldstein question, I don't know. How does it work with the C D Ds when um I'm trying to understand who owns the park who's in charge of the parking spaces, who is the one who's gonna call For ticketing or towing. Is it the county? Is it the C D D district? How does that work?

    Denise

    Um is it po can we check to see if Sam Bounty is on this call? If not, I'm gonna try to address that to the best of my ability. Is is he on Webex? No. Okay. No problem. So okay, no problem. So I will try to address that. So my understanding um and I think we have to still have one last m meeting with start with uh Starkey Ranch. So my understanding is that the CDD is gonna work

    on placing signs and that the actual enforcement of it is going to occur through the Sheriff's Office. Okay. That is the last that I had heard on the matter and that is roughly a week and a half ago when I when I talk talked about that.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Okay, and I think we're gonna do a little um period of information first to let everyone know, okay, you're not allowed to do this and there'll be a little grace period and then People are gonna

    Denise

    have to

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Do the right thing and

    Denise

    that the enforcement is gonna happen through the sheriff's office. Okay, great. Okay.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Okay,

    Denise

    so

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    no one's here to speak to anything, anyone online?

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    No, we have no one on the approval.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Okay, this is

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    approval. Second.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Uh roll cover.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    District 1, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District 2, Commissioner Weightman Aye. District 4, Commissioner Yeager. Aye. District 5, Commissioner Mariano. Aye. District 3, Chairman Starkey.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    Aye. All right. Thank you. Woof. Community will be very happy.

    Kathryn StarkeyChair

    And

    Seth WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

    thank you, Denise, for listening to Thank you.