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1. 1Jul 12, 2022
   Board of County CommissionersR88Regular businessApproved

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   Approved Staff’s recommendation to approve the Proposed Millage Rates for inclusion in Truth in Millage notice that would go out in August and set the first Public Hearing for September 6, 2022 at 5:15 p.m. in Dade City.

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   StarkeyChair

   1:20:29Okay, I'm gonna um go out of order here. And I'm quite sorry. But because we have a lot of guests here, I want to be sure they're here for number 88 and not have to come back. So we are gonna jump to eighty eight. And then um We'll get back to the other stuff so.

   Bob

   1:20:50Good morning. Bob Coring, Pasco County Budget Director. Uh this morning we'd like to talk about the proposed millage rates for the Truth in Millage uh notification that will go out in August, but first we wanted to talk a little bit about the uh tentative budget that we've got. So on July 1st, we did receive the final taxable assessed value for setting the property tax millage rate. Uh July 1, that was at 16.7 percent, that was nearly two

   1:21:21percent higher than the 14.8 percent that we received for the preliminary taxable assessed values on. June 1st. So that uh increase of 16.7 generates an additional $42 million in property tax revenue. Once we deduct the contribution to the sheriff of $16.8 million, and then the contribution to the TIFF Transportation Transportation TIFF as well as the CRA, that leaves an additional $21.5 million for the board and other constitutional offices. Yeah.

   1:21:52If we look at the fire MSTU millage, the increase in property tax, taxable assessed value there was 16.8%, and that generates an additional 9.7% for those important fire rescue type of initiatives. So we are based on that we are recommending no change to the general operating millage of 7.6076 or the fire rescue MSTU millage of 1.8036 MLs, and so with an

   1:22:22increase in taxable sets values of 16.7%, no change in the operating millage. What does that mean for the average taxpayer? And so So, as you know, under the Save Our Homes amendment, the taxable assess value of a homestead and residence cannot increase by more than 3%, or the rate of inflation, whichever is less. As we know, inflation is through the roof this year. The rate of inflation that we'll be using for this Save Our Homes amendment is 7%.

   1:22:53Therefore, the taxable assess values of Homestead properties will not increase by more than three percent. So for if you look at our example of a single-family home valued at $150,000, keep in mind this $150,000 is a taxable assessed value. This is not the just value or market value of a home. The market value of a home is going to be much higher than a taxable assessed value. So if you have a taxable assessed value of $150,000 for a homesteaded

   1:23:23property, The value of that property will increase $3,000, and that will generate an increase in the tax bill for that particular home of $22.82. That increase in taxes is a result of the increase in the value of the property, not because there was a change in the tax rate. We'll look at that same property if it's non-homestead. Property, that property cannot increase by more than 10%. So this is a portion of

   1:23:53our Safe Our Homes law, which we don't normally get into because these property values, assessed values, don't normally increase by more than 10%. However, the taxable value of non-homesteaded properties can't increase by more than 10%. So for that $150,000 home. The taxable assessed value would increase by $15,000, which would generate a taxable increase of $114.11.

   1:24:21So as we saw in the last slide the there is a limit on the increase in taxable assessed value on existing properties and that uh limit or that exemption does not exist for new construction and so as a result of that much of the new revenues that are generated are come from this new construction. We can see in Twenty twenty three the assessed value of new construction jumped more than six hundred million dollars

   1:24:51between fiscal year twenty two and twenty-three. And as a point of fact, the taxable assessed value in twenty twenty three was actually higher than the new construction in two thousand eight by just about a hundred million dollars. So that's very close. Yeah. So because we can't expect these taxable assessed values from new constructions to be at this level for year over year over year, we are suggesting that we not spend this

   1:25:22new additional revenues for uh new ongoing uh expenditures except as they relate to fire rescue. So we are suggesting that We adopt a limited number of new business plan initiatives or a new initiative, new spending for ongoing expenditures, and take the remaining piece of that and invest that into one-time capital investments into our capital improvement process to bring those projects up to speed.

   1:25:53So we saw there's an additional $21 million out there. Before we get carried away with all this new money and figure out how we're going to spend it, there are lots and lots of things that we've got to pay with that additional money. One of those things is inflation. If we just look at inflation increasing 8.6% nationally in the Tampa Bay MSA, which we are a part of, inflation is increasing by 11.3%. If we look at fuel, just the cost of fuel alone has increased 38% over the past year. And if we

   1:26:23look at those fleet related expenditures, and that when we talk about fleet related expenditures, we're talking about fuel and the increased cost in maintenance parts and that kind of thing. Fleet related expenditures in fire rescue will increase by more than a million dollars next year, and that's just for the fire rescue department. It will increase by over three million dollars countywide. We're looking at our comp compensation classification study. We don't have the final results of that yet, but we're looking at probably a 7% increase in our average

   1:26:53compensation. We have fire station three and as well as fire station nine, which are currently Coming online, we need to fund those for a full year. Medical supplies for rescue units, as we have more and more transportations, as we have more and more rescue units, that line for medical supplies will increase by about half a million dollars. And then finally we have normal increases to employee retirement, health care, and those kinds of things.

   1:27:20So we are recommending a number of fire rescue enhancements as we talked about fire stations three and nine which are not yet completed. We did partially fund those in fiscal year 22 to allow the fire department to hire the firefighters needed for those stations and begin training them so when those stations came online they would be available. We're talking about two rescue units, 22 and 226. If we can Keep in mind that stations three and nine will also have rescue units. We will be adding four full-time rescue

   1:27:50units and four peak hour rescue units next year. And so that will place an additional eight ambulances on the street. Uh one thing that's uh new for you here since we've met last is this life cycle of our vehicles in the fire rescue uh division. Right now we would like to reduce the the time in which we replace our vehicles. We want to get them kind of back down to the national standard. So right now we replace our ambulances at every eight years. We'd

   1:28:20like to replace those every Or I'm sorry, currently we pr we replace them every ten years, we'd like to replace them every eight years. For our engines or pumper trucks, they're currently replaced every twelve years, we'd like to replace them every ten. And then for our aerial and ladder trucks, currently we replaced them at fifteen years, and we would like to replace those now at twelve years.

   1:28:42So, business plan initiatives, as you can see, and the general fund and the municipal services fund, which the general fund is supported by that general fund millage rate. We have a wage increase for our general employees as well as our firefighters. We're suggesting that we take $1.6 million from the general fund, transfer that to the sheriff's office to allow the sheriff to hire 10 additional deputy. We have 16 business plan initiatives that were approved for the rescue, which is part of the

   1:29:12general fund, at a cost of about six million dollars. And then you can see the other business plan initiatives here that were approved or were recommending for approval for the other departments. So, for example, in code enforcement, there's one business plan initiative which was for hiring an additional two code enforcement officers. In animal services, there were actually two business plan initiatives to hire animal services officers. So that would be two additional animal services officers.

   1:29:42If we take a look at the Fire MSTU, the initiatives that were recommending for approval there, as you can see, of course, the wage increase for firefighters in that are funded through the Fire MSTU. Engine 3 and 9, as we talked about earlier, they were partially funded in fiscal year 22. Of course, they will be coming online and we'll fully fund those for fiscal year 23. The staffing adjustment, this will be hiring an additional 25 firefighters to reduce the mandatory overtime.

   1:30:13And then you can see some of the other things here. We look in at training and a lot of kind of maintenance on equipment and that kind of thing.

   1:30:24So there are proposed additions to fire rescue. We have 65 additional firefighters. We are recommending that we add to the fire rescue. If we consider that since fiscal year 2019, this board has added 212 additional firefighters. That plus this 65 would give us nearly 300 firefighters that have been added since 2016. When we superimpose

   1:30:50Mm-hmm. We can see that the call volume in twenty twenty one increased by sixteen percent generally up until that point. The call volume was increasing at a rate of three to four percent. So we don't know if that increase in call volume in twenty twenty one of sixteen percent it was that just A one-time thing because of the pandemic, or is that going to be the norm new normal? But in either case, we've got to plan as though that increase in call volume is the new normal. And so for that reason,

   1:31:20we are recommending those additional 65 employees. Outside funding, so the general fund also must fund organizations outside of the county. And you can see them here. For example, the medical examiner, $1.8 million for autopsies, PEDC, a small increase of that, 6% increase as a result of contractual obligation. United Way, this is not a requirement of the board, however, the board is generously uh agreed

   1:31:51to Provide $250,000 a year to United Way. The one new uh donation on this list is Feeding Tampa Bay, and so we are recommending that we provide $125,000 a year for two years to Feeding Tampa Bay to help them build their new facility. Madam Chairman

   Moore

   1:32:12jump in real

   Bob

   1:32:13quick.

   Moore

   1:32:14I'm gonna assume that Ms. Pearson that was everybody on the feeding TFA Bay asked?

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:32:18Yes. Mm-hmm.

   Moore

   1:32:19Yes, no? Okay. I said no. And Emily's that was my vote, I guess you could say, behind the scenes with her. And I'm gonna tell you why. Obviously I think feeding Tampa Bay is great and I and I I appreciate everything they do for all the citizens around the Tampa Bay area. At the same time, I have a serious concern about um funding a capital project. For a building that's in Another county. Let me c let me continue. Let me continue. You can fight for it, but let me continue.

   1:32:50Um

   1:32:52You know, we have not for profits that feed people here in Pasco County as well. Um I would prefer to see those funds possibly going to people here closer to home than I would outside of capital project outside of the county. Now they was this if this they were stating they were going to provide a addition so many additional meals in Pasco County that was gonna maybe go uh be pushed through one of our local organizations, then I'd probably be more receptive of this. But I don't

   1:33:22want to set a precedent of funding capital projects that aren't within our own county. So the next so if an organization comes from Pinellas County or Manatee County, that yes, they may provide services here in Pasco County, but they're lo they're not located in Pasco County, so we're gonna assist them in building new infrastructure or capital projects. Um I'm just my fear is you're gonna set a precedent here and next year you're gonna have ten other organizations that are gonna be lined up outside the door asking you to do something in another county to

   1:33:53help build a building because they're saying they're providing services here. Again, appreciate what they what they do. I think they're a great organization. Don't think we should be re building buildings outside of Pasco County.

   StarkeyChair

   1:34:04So this is why um I was in support and I don't know if Kathy wants to talk about it, but the number they asked for was much greater than this. Well

   Moore

   1:34:12I know what the number was.

   StarkeyChair

   1:34:13And so the reason I was okay with this number was because we're one of the major recipients of their food program. And so they're storing the food that comes up to be delivered to our nonprofits that distribute to our people. So um Uh that's why I'm okay with this small amount and I hope one day they'll have a facility in Pasco County. But right now for the region it's more

   1:34:43cost effective to have one big dist distribution center. Um, I do think they're moving one into Pinellas. Um I did ask them about one day coming up here, but This doesn't begin to compare to cover the cost of the food they're holding for our citizens. So that's why I was okay with this

   Oakley

   1:35:04little little note. I was I was unsupportive and also um for the fact that they help a lot of our citizens. I know they do here in East Pasco County every every week. And The reason I suggest that we do the minimum is because I d like you, I don't necessarily want to build buildings or build roads in other parts, other counties. Rather our own. I'd rather build that in here. But I think they give us this much help and that was a minimum of what we were and or they were asking.

   Moore

   1:35:39They are a not-for-profit and that's what they do. Um again at the same time I don't want to set a precedent for this board. I won't be here much longer again, but or future boards I should say going down the road of building what I can essence capital projects outside of the of uh the boundaries of Pasco County. Again, we have an additional charities here in the county, not for profits, that do feed people. We have hey I'll be honest with you, I would love to if that two fifty Give to our um

   1:36:10elderly services and let them feed more people. We have a waiting list of people if I'm not correct. Do we have still a waiting list, Ms. Pearson? We have a waiting list of people right now that we could we could divert those funds to our senior citizens that are sitting there waiting for more meals. And it we know where the the money goes. We know how it's going to be spent. Again, appreciate what they do. Don't think we should be building projects outside of our county. If they were to ask maybe for funding for so many meals, I'd been more apt to do that,

   1:36:41but I will be voting against this unless we clear this up.

   StarkeyChair

   1:36:46Commissioner Oakley.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:36:47Thank you. Uh Commissioner Moore, I agree with you. I didn't support it either. Uh very similar reasons. Um and uh but I uh I didn't think of your idea, which I really love. 'Cause I'd rather take that one twenty five, feed it to a whole bunch of seniors, so if I get those seniors that would need to go get food elsewhere, now we can actually feed them instead. I think it's a bet much better idea, better use of our money. Um I will tell you we have Tons of homeless people that get bust in from other areas. We don't track 'em. We don't find out where they're coming from. But all that trash has led to fires, has

   1:37:17led to more homelessness here because they can get a free meal from someone dropping it off somewhere else. Um and I will tell you people like the Rope Center Uh those people there go to work every day. You can't get 'em. Even doing side stuff because they're out there in the community doing work. Um There's plenty of opportunity out there right now for people. You go to restaurant after restaurant, place after place, contractor after contractor, they can't get people to go to work. So I I agree with your sentiment. I don't want to spend that money on capital for down in another area outside

   1:37:47of the county. I'd rather take care of our seniors right here, like you say, than increase the the meal money that's gonna go to them. Yeah,

   Moore

   1:37:53and Madam Chair, again, I'm all about again supporting them feeding people. I mean I how many times have I brought trucks in here um to feed citizens? Three times? Yeah. I I'm all about it. I w I wanna help I wanna help as many people as I can. Again, this is a capital project. We should not be spending sat Pasco County taxpayer dollars to build a building outside of our county.

   Fitzpatrick

   1:38:13Madam Chairman. So I'm in support of Participating in a one time scenario, I don't believe this is gonna be setting a specific precedent. Um I do believe it is a one time situation. The number of citizens that benefit outweigh how much with her spending. Um I will look into as I sit on the Board of Area Agency on Aging for additional funding. if we need additional funding for our seniors. But Kathy did bring the numbers and the breakdown on

   1:38:44how many meals that are provided, the number of meals that get distributed and The amount that we're Investing? is a lot less than it would cost us to provide those meals to all of those citizens. So I am in support.

   StarkeyChair

   1:39:00Okay, so

   Fitzpatrick

   1:39:01that's three, so we'll can we keep going?

   Moore

   1:39:06So uh

   StarkeyChair

   1:39:07Well you're

   Moore

   1:39:07no I'm just saying I just

   StarkeyChair

   1:39:09uh you're gonna vote against the budget? Or I don't know. Is this uh never had this happen, so do you pull out

   County Administrator

   1:39:15trim the the actual

   Moore

   1:39:16vote on the budget amongst things like this and if even one or two are in agreement we typically You know, work through it. I mean I've been here for eight years now, we typically work through these things and we Well

   StarkeyChair

   1:39:28I don't I I personally don't think a hundred and twenty five thousand will even cover the cost of the racks to hold the food that's come in the Pasco Kidding. That's the way I and it's it's for two years.

   Moore

   1:39:37If they would if it had been a an ask for to say they're paying for so many meals, it'd be a different story for me, but it weren't a building that were able to provide services now in the building they're in, they want to expand, great. Um but again this is this is this is for s a structure.

   StarkeyChair

   1:39:51Yeah, it's a

   Fitzpatrick

   1:39:51regional distribu it's a regional

   Moore

   1:39:54with

   Fitzpatrick

   1:39:54it. Yeah. Maybe Kathy can bring the numbers that show the number of meals that we are providing specifically because it does benefit the number of citizens. I

   StarkeyChair

   1:40:02need to ask um We're not

   Moore

   1:40:03buying meals, we're buying we're helping to buy a build for them to expand a building.

   StarkeyChair

   1:40:07We're it's capital expenses to support the district. Yeah. Um if we So can is it a vote to remove an item? Or is it I don't know the procedure, I've never seen this happen.

   1:40:25Okay, so so if this is on there and they want to vote no, then they vote no against the trip.

   County Administrator

   1:40:33today, but this item is actually for the trim notice.

   StarkeyChair

   1:40:37Well there's three people who don't want this removed from the trim.

   County Administrator

   1:40:40Okay.

   StarkeyChair

   1:40:41And So I don't I don't know how to proceed.

   County Administrator

   1:40:49Right.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:40:51Actually you're not actually not voting on this allocation, you're voting on the a overall trim notice of millage. Right. And which you can reduce at your first or second budget year. So it's a it's a you can have this discussion in September. Yeah, I'm just looking at

   Moore

   1:41:11listen, I'm protecting future boards of of a president's gonna be set and don't do not be shocked next year when they people line up that once you start

   StarkeyChair

   1:41:20We could say

   Moore

   1:41:21capital projects for them in other counties because they provide services here. So there's a lot of not for profits that aren't located in uh in Pasco County. There's a lot of profits that aren't located in Florida that provide services here in Pasco County. Are we at the point now when if somebody asks us in Louisiana because they're providing services in Pasco County, we're gonna contribute to building putting up a building for them? I mean let's not set a precedent.

   Oakley

   1:41:43Answer's no to that.

   Moore

   1:41:44Well, we don't know that 'cause you want this now. So

   StarkeyChair

   1:41:48So um I'm past my time certain. How mu how many more pages do you have?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:41:55I can go through very quickly.

   StarkeyChair

   1:41:57I think we should um continue on. I think you've made your point. I think you've made your point. We can always cut it. Um I I am disheartened to hear that we have seniors still waiting on the list, so I do want to talk about that and maybe Yeah. We're gonna pull from the general and make sure we don't have a list because I think we can do that too. I'd like you to guess back with a number of what we need to get rid of a waiting list for our elderly people to eat. And why don't you continue? Yeah, I'd rather spend it that way. Well

   Moore

   1:42:25I

   StarkeyChair

   1:42:25think we have enough to do both.

   1:42:28No agreement. No. Agreed. No.

   Moore

   1:42:31One, two, three.

   StarkeyChair

   1:42:32Let's let's go by. Very good,

   Moore

   1:42:34thank you. So So as I said uh we say you'd rather give the money to the seniors that were on a winning list. If

   StarkeyChair

   1:42:40we could

   Moore

   1:42:41do

   StarkeyChair

   1:42:41both, would you do both?

   Fitzpatrick

   1:42:47We could not afford to provide that number of meals for that amount

   StarkeyChair

   1:43:11We're gonna go on with the budget presentation. Okay. Go ahead, Bob.

   Bob

   1:43:15Thank you, ma'am. As I said, we plan or we're recommending that we take a good good share of that additional $21 million and investing it in our capital improvement program. You've seen this slide here before, so I won't spend a lot of time on the slide. Here is some of our ongoing expenditures, some of the things that we fund year after year, and we have uh as a result of that additional funding, we have increased the amount of money in these projects. Again, placing some of that money into the parks and rec uh Commissioner Fitzpatrick mentioned this morning the Pine

   1:43:45Hill Park that we've recently taken over. I saw we intend to invest heavily in that park to bring that up to Pasco County standards. There is some additional drainage at the Starkey Ranch District Park that we'd like to do, and you can see the other areas here. And then finally some of the investments in areas outside of parks and recreation. We have two of our branch libraries. Mr. Hassano has asked that, the tax collector's office at the West Government Pass. In the east side uh the other building,

   1:44:16his offices be renovated over there. The public safety answering point relocation uh would take over the first floor of the IT building and then for the uh the supervisor election would take over that first floor and we'd move the PSAP up to the second floor. You can see the remaining there. So for our constitutional officer requests we can see these are the amounts that have been requested. The sheriff's budget there has been adjusted for the take into account 40% of the final taxable assessed values. We can what

   1:44:46we're doing is recommending that we approve the first three of those and for the clerk and comptroller's budget I have on the next slide here. So we are recommending that we increase the clerk and comptrollers budget by $1 million, and that's made up of her existing staff, including uh increases in retirement, health care, merit raises, and those sorts of things to the tune of $710,000. And then including uh CGIS-related software and hardware for another

   1:45:16$318,000. And we're recommending that the final two items on that list not be included in the twenty twenty three budget.

   1:45:26And then finally, we are asking for the approval of the proposed millage rates. You can see the first three millage rates on there. There are no changes to the PESCO operating transportation or the MSTU. You'll notice for the next group of millage rates, these are for the geobonds, these uh millage rates have been reduced, and the reason for that is because we have a what we asked for is Is a level debt service, which means that our debt service from year to year doesn't change very much other than a few thousand

   1:45:56dollars. And as the taxable assess value of our county increases, we can reduce the general obligation bond millage to collect the same amount of revenues. And when we look at our fire rescue 2020 library and the jail project, the reason they have Increased is because they were new general obligation bonds, and in the first year of a geo-bond, we pay interest only, and then in the second year we pay interest plus principal, and that's the reason for that increase. And then finally, I just

   1:46:26wanted to point out for the folks at home: this aggregate is not the sum of all of those items above it, it's not the average of all those items above it. It's really something that doesn't mean. a whole lot, it's just something that the state requires us to calculate and present to you.

   StarkeyChair

   1:46:42That made

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:46:43a lot of sense. Pardon me.

   1:46:47It's the one Bob and I talk about every year because I go, How how can you be this far up? And it's a special calculation.

   Bob

   1:46:54Absolutely. And so we would ask that you would approve the

   1:46:59These millage rates, these proposed millage rates for inclusion in the Truth and Millage notice that goes in out in August, and to approve or to set the first public hearing for September 6th at 515 and Date City.

   StarkeyChair

   1:47:13Okay, I'm gonna take a little chair's prerogative and call Kathy Up, please. And um I think the feeding uh whatever the program is where we feed our elderly Um, is under you? And I just wanna know, did we ask for money in this budget to get rid of our waiting list?

   Kathy Pearson

   1:47:34So Commissioners, thank you. Um no, we have not asked. So we receive a hundred percent of our funding through the Older Americans Act. That is a grant that we receive for years and years and years for the home delivered meal programs. So we have never asked for a general revenue fund. We do have the um not-for-profit that helps us feeding uh Uh Pasco's Feeding Elderly, which is a fundraising group that has raised tremendous amount of dollars for us. So we do they do fund a lot of people on our waiting lists,

   1:48:05but uh we will never ever have a hundred percent completed. But we will be more than happy to get those figures to you and what the costs would be for that for the remaining that are on that list.

   Moore

   1:48:16Madam Chairman since you brought her up, thank you, Madam Chair. Um you made a great point um about, you know, feeding pots too early, which um a number of people we know that sit on that board, um but a number of us have donated funds out of our own pockets throughout the years to that on numerous occasions. So You know. That's having to be supported by citizens and taxpaying citizens for actu going for additional dollars in their pockets to support that.

   1:48:47Back to my point. If we're gonna provide Some of these funds I would very much like to see that happen out of those dollars. I see a lot of headshaking in the yes in the audience as well by the

   Kathy Pearson

   1:49:02way. So um I I I'm going to get to the figures, but I can probably tell you one hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars is not gonna feed a lot of seniors for five days a week. Um three hundred and

   Moore

   1:49:16sixty five. It's some

   Kathy Pearson

   1:49:18it will fit some. So I will get that.

   Moore

   1:49:24continue to reach in their pockets to pay for it. I mean these are taxpayer dollars right here too. Absolutely.

   StarkeyChair

   1:49:29You know I I recall um Commissioner Moore you weren't here, Commissioner Oakley and Fitzpatrick weren't here, but Jack I remember in the recession we had to cut that budget. And that's when we suggested we well they used to get money in our list of charitable donations and I remember that's when we said Let's look at a non profit, you know, a a a a charitable way to do to donate to that fund so we didn't have the seniors on the list and that's when that five oh one C three started.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:49:59Yeah, Minister. Before before you got here actually even When we had the big drop, um I actually suggested that we actually give more money to everybody because they were gonna need it. I will tell you the inflation rate that's hitting our citizens, our seniors especially right now, on fixed incomes, barely making it, right now is probably more important than ever to go take a look at what those numbers are. I think

   StarkeyChair

   1:50:20come back with a line item on this absolute on this one.

   Moore

   1:50:23Yeah, yeah.

   1:50:26Go back. Um my knowledge base, and you know that, the amount of years I spent in that industry, in the senior care industry, and actually owning a a corporation that provided care for the seniors and having my caregivers go in these homes on a regular basis with some of these low-income seniors around Medicaid waiver and nursing home diversion programs that would sit there and have to make a choice. And their choice was do I take the medications or do I eat Today or do I pay my bills?

   StarkeyChair

   1:50:53Yeah, we don't we don't have enough money that we we should be able to take care of. I think that needs to be a priority.

   Kathy Pearson

   1:50:58And Commissioner Fitzpatrick, I know you serve on the Airy Agency Board, right? And so that is where our money comes from. And so there's a certain allocation that Pasco County and Pinellas County get every year. So we will come up with that figure, bring it back to all of you with a presentation and see where we go from there.

   StarkeyChair

   1:51:16So Commissioner's just yesterday my sister let me know of a neighbor across the street from her who gets eight hundred dollars a month and her rent was just went up and my sister said she's literally watching this lady starve and she's bringing her food. So I asked uh Marcy if Does our program extend to people in the in the city limits? Because she's in the Newport Ritchie city

   Kathy Pearson

   1:51:40limits. Absolutely we do county. And we also deliver for pets too. So we have a pet food delivery also.

   Fitzpatrick

   1:51:47And are all of these citizens aware of the funding that we have? There's a funding source for m to help with medication.

   Kathy Pearson

   1:51:54A funding source to help with medications or e f helping.

   Fitzpatrick

   1:51:57There's another funding source. I can get additional information. I thought there

   1:52:00was

   1:52:00another funding source that can help with medications. And then are every one of these um seniors aware of the Commissioner Fitzpatrick. Tax savings.

   StarkeyChair

   1:52:09Wait, Commissioner Fitzpatrick, we'll have that discussion. We're in the budget, so let's move on with the budget and we'll

   Fitzpatrick

   1:52:15we're gonna have her come back. Is about the taxes because they can actually save on their taxes. Okay. We'll talk about that

   StarkeyChair

   1:52:22more in depth at a code. Thank you. Okay, moving forward. Alright, so knowing that we're going to come back with a line item to take care of that

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:52:31list. Um Where are you? We are looking for a motion and approval to approve the proposed millage rate and set the first public hearing.

   StarkeyChair

   1:52:42Move approval.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:52:43Second.