PDD-20-7464

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1. 1Feb 6, 2020
   Planning CommissionPC5Public hearingApproved

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   Denise

   1:11:57Okay. Following item is item PC five.

   1:12:03Item PC five is PDD 207464 in the name of Carlos and Mary Postin. It's for a change in zoning from AR, agricultural residential, to an R1MH, single family mobile home district. It's located in on the southwest corner of the intersection of Limbrook Drive and Forbes Road.

   1:12:26The applicant proposes to rezone the property in order to put a total of two dwelling units on the property, and it has a future land use designation of Res 9, 9 dwelling units per gross acre. As you can see the surrounding zoning. Sorry, I don't know why this pointer is not working very well today. There are other parcels that are zoned, R one M H in the area, and there's an R two actually to the south of it.

   1:12:55The land use is res nine, so it uh contemplated higher density.

   1:13:02Just shows the access to the property. And uh the staff recommendation is approval on this item. I'm here for any questions that you may have.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:13:12Okay. Um yeah, I have some questions, but I guess be the applicant. Um you the applicant? Wanna come up and uh and tell us what you want to do there or do you wanna wait to respond?

   1:13:28Do we have some people here that have questions about this one? Anyone that wants to speak on this one? Okay, I think I had I was the one that had questions, so if you want to come forward.

   1:13:40And state your name and address, please.

   1:13:45Could you put that aerial back up to an ace? I'm sorry.

   Denise

   1:13:56No,

   Tim Allen

   1:13:56it's right here. It's my phone. Maybe you thought it was the microphone. Thank you. All right. Well I wasn't prepared to get up and speak, so I'm not prepared. But my name is Tim Allen. Um my parents are Carlos and Mary Poston. I am the representative uh when it comes to the rezoning of this piece of property. My parents have lived in that area since 1985. That's exactly where I grew up. I mean all those streets, the dirt roads that used to be there, those are

   1:14:26the streets that I rode my bicycle on. All the kids that I grew up with lived in that area. Um I've been fortunate enough to move around the country with my career. Um my son has lived in, you know, Colorado, Oregon, Georgia, um, as well as Florida. My parents are getting older. We were recently in Atlanta, Georgia. I was working for Ecolab. I was a production manager there. Um

   1:14:57my mother came and visited us for Christmas and she was telling me about the difficulties that they were having as they get older. Maintaining the property. My stepfather Carlos Postin Uh Has had cancer, lung cancer? Uh he's had a heart attack, he's had a stroke, he's heart had a heart attack and a stroke at the same time. Um, which baffled the doctors. Needless to say, they need help. Immediately I wanted to come back to Florida. I left my

   1:15:27job. I'm currently working with my brother-in-law building pools. Complete career change. I want to be here. I want to live on the property with my parents and I want to be able to support them as they get older. So I've been here since May. We've been maintaining the property. I built a pole barn to put all of our junk in until hopefully we can get this approved so I can build a house on the property and move my family into it.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:15:55Okay, well my My question I guess my biggest concern was you're asking for a mobile home zoning, R one M H.

   Tim Allen

   1:16:04It's my understanding that R one M H either mobile home

   Charles GreyChair

   1:16:07or H and Mike My big concern is I'm looking at that neighborhood and seems like most of the M most of the residences on that street are not mobile homes, they're regular homes. Yeah,

   Tim Allen

   1:16:19I have no intention of placing a mobile home on the property.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:16:21So um

   Tim Allen

   1:16:22that was that was the suggestion.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:16:27Can we can we I mean if you want to build a home a regular site built home, then there must be a di there must be an alternative, right, Denise?

   Denise

   1:16:40Yes, definitely there's an alternative. The alternative would be to go R one. Um, I believe and I'm not the person who suggested it, but looking at it being a zoning person, I would have also suggested R one M H because it's what's in the area. R1H. R1H. That's what I I mean I would have suggested the same thing as well. Um but I understand what what you're stating um

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:17:03Well there is R two to the south though.

   Denise

   1:17:05There is R two to the south. Um I guess we can

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:17:07in the AR right across the street.

   Denise

   1:17:09Yeah. And see an AR allows site built homes, mobiles, manufactured homes, modulars, so that's allowed in the area.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:17:18And they're all looking like they're all site built homes. Mm-hmm.

   Denise

   1:17:22That's a correct statement.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:17:24And I just I can I see where you out on the front, where that roadway is, it's R one M H on that road, on that main road. But You know, back in where these houses are it seemed like it'd be more compatible to have an R one.

   Kathy Shram

   1:17:39Okay.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:17:40Especially if he doesn't need R one M H G D I have. No intention of closing the law on

   1:17:49we make that change.

   Denise

   1:17:51Um Mr. County Attorney, uh can the Planning Commission make a motion to change to change it to R one deny R one M H and change it to R one? I mean I I've seen that in the past but I'm not sure how that works.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:18:03Well you're you're you're they're recommending body on this, right? Yeah. So yes, I mean when it goes to the board you're gonna have to then advertise it as R w you have to change your ad when it goes to the board. Okay. Has this already been advertised? Yes, it has. So you just need to make sure you advertise it for the board as R one. So you might need to do a new ad. Okay. But yes, this this body can recommend A change to R one instead of R R one M

   1:18:34H.

   Denise

   1:18:34So uh secondary question, uh because the gentleman did ask me if he it's gonna make him jump through more hoops. Um will he have to redo a letter and repost the property?

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:18:48Well, whatever notice was provided for R one M H you would have to now do for R one.

   Denise

   1:18:52Sounds sounds like the answer is yes.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:18:58Okay, well I I just think if we're gonna do it, let's do it right. And uh because you m somebody started uh

   Tim Allen

   1:19:06and it

   Charles GreyChair

   1:19:06looks

   Tim Allen

   1:19:06like this is going to push this out a little bit further.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:19:09Well you wouldn't hold them the service you have to come back to the planning commission.

   Denise

   1:19:12Right.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:19:16you're you're gonna have to renotice it because you can't rely on the notice D R one M H. Yeah you don't you don't have to come

   Tim Allen

   1:19:22back to us. So but I do need to send thirty letters out again to all of the

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:19:27Yeah, if that's how you noticed it before you're gonna have to notice it again.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:19:30And if they didn't object to it before then I'm certainly not gonna object to that.

   Michael J. Cox

   1:19:35I mean wouldn't that make his property w value more valuable? Of course.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:19:38Yeah.

   Michael J. Cox

   1:19:39And your he he needs to understand that.

   Denise

   1:19:46You're gonna

   Charles GreyChair

   1:19:48I think Mr. Cox pointed out that by doing this it's gonna end up making your property more valuable. So I think it's a good move for you.

   Unidentified speaker

   1:20:00What are the other differences standards? I mean easy to understand the difference between the the two

   Denise

   1:20:04No there's not much difference. I mean the only difference between R1 and R1MH is basically that R1 is site-built homes only. There's a slight difference in the setback between R1 and R1MH, but only in the rear. twenty five twenty-five feet as opposed to thirty feet. Um but uh everything else is is the same. The density is the same, two point two dwelling units per acre. Um it's Again, the only difference between R1 and R1MH is pretty much R1, site-built homes only, R1MH,

   1:20:35gamut, site-built, manufactured mobile homes. Lot sizes is the same, a hundred foot wide lots, 150 foot wide, 150 foot deep lots, minimum lot area is 20,000 square feet. It's the same on both.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:20:52Okay.

   Denise

   1:20:53Yeah.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:20:55All right, so the only real difference is you just have to send out the notices again. Yeah.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:21:01To be clear, the notices for the board meeting. You're not renoticing this. No, and

   Denise

   1:21:05and the good thing it's an easide item, so it's going to the board in in March, so we have time. And we'll we'll we'll help you. I'm going on record and saying we're gonna help him.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:21:15Okay. You probably send out more Christmas cards than that. No. No, I don't.

   Michael J. Cox

   1:21:22You're not getting one either. Yeah.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:21:27I wanted to send one back.

   1:21:33I know, you're smart Alec Whippers now.

   1:21:38Okay. So uh do I have a motion?

   Michael J. Cox

   1:21:41So Mr. Chairman Mariano.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:21:45I think the most it would need to be that um you recommend denial of staff recommendation to rezon the property to R one M H and instead to rezone the property to R one.

   Michael J. Cox

   1:21:59So I'll move to that exact motion.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:22:03Second. We have a second. For the discussion. All in favor? Nine.

   1:22:10We got it. We're we're

   Denise

   1:22:12gonna be in contact with you, trust me. We'll we're here.

   Charles GreyChair

   1:22:15You're in good hands.

   Denise

   1:22:17Well I don't know about all that, but

   1:22:21All right.

   1:22:25I've lost track, but I think this is the last one.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   1:22:28I think so.

   Denise

   1:22:31Perhaps not? Yeah it is. Okay.

   1:22:40Audience doesn't like that idea.

2. 2Mar 10, 2020
   Board of County CommissionersP8Public hearingApproved

   ZONING AMENDMENT (CONSENT) – - Carlos and Mary Poston, – - Change in Zoning from … Agricultural-Residential District to a R-1MH Single Family/Mobile Home R-1 Rural Density Residential District – - Southeast Pasco County – - At the Southwest Corner … Drive and Forbes Road – - Containing Approximately 1.25 Acres

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   Approved Public Hearing Consent Agenda which included Agenda items P6, P7, and P8 with Commissioner Oakley absent from the vote.

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