PDD-21-0327
Published agenda5 appearances between Apr 22, 2021 and Aug 24, 2021, at 2 boards — continued 3 times.
Approved Staff’s recommendation with Commissioner Moore and Commissioner Mariano voting nay.
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Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) – CPAL20(15) Ridge Road – Transmittal Of Proposed Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land Use Map (2-15 and Sheet 20) Changing From RES-1 (Residential-1 Du/Ga) To PD (Planned Development) On Approximately 20.35 Acres Of Real Property Located At The Intersection Of Ridge Road And Tanglewood Drive; A Text Amendment Creating Subarea Policy FLU 7.1.57- Ridge Road & Tanglewood Drive; And A Map Amendment To The Future Land Use Map 2-9 Adding Subarea Map 2-9(57) Ridge Road & Tanglewood Drive
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Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment
(Regular)– CPAL20(15) Ridge Road –Transmittal Of ProposedProviding for a Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan AmendmentTo Theto the Future Land Use Map … and Sheet 20) ChangingFromfrom RES-1 (Residential-1 Du/Ga)Toto PD (Planned Development)Onon Approximately 20.35 AcresOfof Real Property LocatedAt Theat the IntersectionOfof Ridge RoadAndand Tanglewood Drive;Aa Text Amendment Creating Subarea … Road & Tanglewood Drive;And Aand a Map AmendmentTo Theto the Future Land Use Map … Ridge Road & TanglewoodDriveDrive.2h 12mDeniseAnd run item P seven, that will be presented by Mr. Ed Zodian.
Ed ZodianMr. Chairman Members of the Board, uh for this matter you'll be sitting as the LPA. What's before you is a large scale comprehensive plan amendment? Excuse me, Ed
GreyChairIs this the one I talked to you about that I need to
DeniseThis is the one you're recru you recusing yourself from? And we have an actual document that you're recusing. So I don't know if you wanna
GreyChairOkay, then uh
DeniseMr. Girardi.
GreyChairI don't hate anybody.
Ed ZodianThank you, Ed. This is C P A L. Twenty fifteen Ridge Road. The proposal before you is to amend the future land use from Res One, that's residential dwelling one dwelling unit per gross acre, to PD, Plan Development. for a project of 10,000 square feet of office and 230 multifamily units. It's located at the intersection of Ridge Road and Tanglewood Drive. And
accompanying this will be a text amendment creating a sub-area policy for this project, as well as a a map amendment creating the sub-area map for the same project. And there is a companion rezoning case to an MPUD. May we have the location map the next one?
As you can see from the location map, it is at the intersection of Ridge Road and Tanglewood Drive. the functional access for this project will be on Ridge Road. There will only be an emergency only access for the emergency vehicles on Tanglewood Drive, which will be gated. uh the developer in this case is going to be bringing the utilities to the site. The flu, the current flu is res one, and it's been the original flu, it's been about 31 years or 32 years ago. the
current complan and subsequent to the original comp plan. designated the site also as an urban Excuse me, urban service area. which portends that it's going to be developed more densely at some point. Um
What we ha w that coupled with the fact that Ridge Road, the extension, is going to intersect with uh Suncoast Parkway here shortly, like within the next six months. And traffic in this area is going to uh increase Uh it is no longer gonna be a rural area, it's gonna be more urban, we believe. Next button Next slide. Thank you. The following policies we believe are consistent with this comprehensive plan amendment. The P D, which
allows for mixed use, uh diverse intensities, etcetera. And policy flu eight point one point one for the West Market area, which allows for employment opportunities as well as uh different types of housing for the residents.
Chris WilliamsI'm sorry. Can you go back a slide? Yes. I didn't get to look at that. Oh well there was another one with the table. Maybe it was two slides before. Yeah, okay, sorry. Um
Ed ZodianI haven't actually I hadn't even gotten there yet. I apologize. Okay. I may have mixed up my slides. I apologize. We can w let's go over that slide. We can go back and
GreyChairclairvoyantly knows what's
Denisecoming. Ed's doing an excellent job. It's just Denise. That's like trying to be Speedy Gonzalez, that's all. Forgive me, please. No worries.
Ed ZodianWe can go to the next slide, that's fine. As we said, this area had been the the flu in this area was designated back when the comp plan was adopted about thirty-one or thirty-two years ago. You can see the future land use is res one throughout the area. However, many of these sites now are in the urban service area.
are from A R one to E R to R One, and but for some businesses across the street, essentially this site is Surrounded by single family homes a and a church, I believe. In fact, on the site itself there is a single family home.
You can skip the next slide. Cook. You can skip that one.
As I indicated, as you can see, the future land use is res one in the area. Again, it is the original future land use that was designated when the comp plan was adopted. Next slide, please. And this is the proposed future land use which will be Uh The P D.
Next slide. Your staff believe that the proposal does adhere to the principles of both P D and the principles of the West Market area, and we do believe it does meet the criteria for consistency with the comp plan. Next slide. the developer is bringing utilities to the site, so there are going to be adequate utility services and capacity and there's been no concern expressed by the police, fire or schools. or environmental through parks and recreation or emergency
management.
the staff recommends that the local planning agency find this amendment consistent with the comprehensive plan and recommend approval to the Board of County Commissioners and I am happy to answer any questions you may have.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you, Ed. There any questions from up here?
Ed ZodianI am available to answer if you have any questions.
DeniseMr. Chairman just want to some Housekeeping, forty minutes total time has been granted to the applicant. We also have some additional time that's been granted to Mr. Mike Lasala and that's 20 minutes and to Mr. Craig Laporte, he's got 15 minutes. There are um items to be read into the record on here um but I am being told but from the kiosk there's n several
people at the kiosk but I'm being told from the kiosk that we should Take public comment from the kiosk because perhaps the items that I'm a being asked to read into record may already have a participant who wants to speak instead of having it read. So it's up to the up to the commission.
Unidentified speakerVoice AShould should we hear from the applicant first?
DeniseSure, she may want to reserve time for rebuttal to answer questions, but absolutely. Okay. It's up to the commission.
Barbara WilhitePlanning Commission members, this is Borrow Well High. Are we able to share our screen, uh, Jeremy, or do we need Denise to do that? to put up our
Unidentified speakerVoice BI think if Denise uh or if she can raise um Jennifer Hooker as a panelist, I don't see Jennifer Hooker as a panelist.
Unidentified speakerVoice CDid you have the Uh
DeniseYes, please.
Barbara WilhiteLooks like I can do it. Okay. I'll see if I can drive myself. I'll drive. Can you all see Mm oh, maybe not. Maybe I'm done driving. Okay.
Unidentified speakerVoice AYour learner's permit, Barbara.
Barbara WilhiteI guess, right?
Unidentified speakerVoice AWherever. So Oh what
Barbara Wilhitea bad idea.
Unidentified speakerVoice ASo who Jennifer needs to be elevated?
Unidentified speakerVoice DYeah.
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay. Should be good.
Barbara WilhiteGood afternoon, Planning Commission members. It's been a long afternoon already. This is our project. Um the name of the Com Plaint Amendment is Ridge Road Complet Amendment. But I have my team with me virtually. Um Jeremy Couch, which we were already talking to him. Snee Henry is with us somewhere. I don't know if he's been elevated or not, but let's see. Yep, he seems like he's been elevated. And Steve McConaughey um is with the client and the developer for our communities.
We're gonna start out with um Steve introducing you to himself, to him, as well as his project and um And why he picked this location. And then we'll come back to the PowerPoint.
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay. Thank you.
Unidentified speakerVoice EWell I'm Stephen Carnahaven. And uh if you can hear me, give me a confirmation and I'll give you a little bit of an oversight on the S.
Unidentified speakerVoice AYou're all good, Steve. Go ahead.
Unidentified speakerVoice EGood. Um, I moved to the Saint Petersburg area in nineteen sixty nine. Yeah. I I will tell you that in nineteen sixty nine, I was the youngest person in God's waiting room in Saint Pete. Argone was Snowbird Capital with sixty percent of houses, be it mobile homes. And Pasco was uh Pasco. Some more up later. We sponsored kids at the uh at the summer camp that we had
we rented the lodge on Moon Lake and that was about all I knew about Moon Lake at the time. But here's here's what's happened in these last twenty five, twenty six years. Very strange. When I go to St. Petersburg now, I'm the oldest person in St. Peter. It's got a vibrant international city flare. Largo is now job central. But about a hundred and forty thousand jobs in Warhammer. And that's why we did our last two projects in Larkin.
Because with a hundred and twenty thousand jobs, and that's what we look for, we design Develop the market to find income people. Our properties typically um get people who are high wage earners earning much more than the usual prevailing wage because we focus on jobs. Good. Those two properties that we had in Largo were the average household income According to the public records, it's about
forty-three thousand dollars a year. Our average household income at the property we call Charleston on fifty sixth street. And the boulevard was one hundred and twenty two thousand per year. Why? Because those people were working in high paying jobs Yeah, Martha, but they weren't living in there.
So here's what we do when we look at properties. I look for a certain accessibility. I look for public water, fire, sanitary, sewer services, bus, mass transit. shopping, education, entertainment, and medical facilities. All for Jobs. Two little radius around this site. Well. There's right now existing And for short future. About twenty five thousand. New Five
editing journals. What we're gonna do, we're gonna be right in the middle of all that. But here's how we we sort of Offshore designs. If you take a look at where my low end my my low property would be a small one bedroom, one bath. To be able to qualify from that, your uh minimum income would need to be just under fifty thousand dollars a year. are more expensive, three bedrooms and high-end uh carriage units. You should qualify for
those. your income would need to be about seventy-seven thousand dollars per year. I understood some people thought we were doing low income. Quite the contrary. We're doing high income. And typically we're doing a higher income wage earner. Um We're meeting their expectations. With well. Just Brady Love Amenities. And we'll certainly be willing to get into the details and tell you what those amenities are, but I can guarantee you they
are resort. class of amenities which justified what those high income wage earners are looking for. Uh Ms. Tina Ayala sits beside me and she's a mother and she's got some children. And one of the things that she was doing as we were looking at the site is she was looking at the school side and what we found out, go ahead and share with us what you found out on the ridge road connection and how that alleviates the traffic.
Unidentified speakerVoice FHi, good afternoon. Um specifically for River Ridge is a very sought-after high school, middle school. Um definitely has a higher graduation rate. Um the traffic in that area is definitely opened up to go into the River Ridge area due to the connection from Ridge Road. This community will allow folks to be able to come into this school district where there is
just no very few available homes for sale. So even if it is just for temporary, you know, while they're looking for something else, but it is a great location. Bringing, you know, different uh retail, which we do not have in that area, and actually will create some walkability for that neighborhood.
Unidentified speakerVoice ESo kind of fuzzing out on this theory, uh those two largo properties, the reasons we cited there were one because of jobs. All these other criteria that I mentioned to you But there was also another area that we'd look at, and it is, even though I mentioned it earlier, I want to expand just a bit. It's medical facilities. Uh medical people have have an unusual job uh demand. Many of those people working in hospitals Work,
shift work. They work well now. And they don't want to commute long distances. As a matter of fact, we did a property in Sepford Hills many years ago and the local hospital there encouraged their development because they said they couldn't get people working in the neurological wings and in the heart wings because they had to be able to get to the facility Within a a a certain short drive time. So we met that requirement at Largo, and about 20% of our
campus was medical doctors, doctors in training. and paramedical support people. We anticipate this location because of the Moffat Center that is going to be at is in the bridge in Sun Coast. Um then we look at the Trinity, we look at the North Bay, we look at the Bay Point. for a huge amount of those people who probably end up being lieutenants in our campus. So that's a high level version for me. Thank you very much.
Unidentified speakerVoice AUh thank you.
Barbara WilhiteThank you, Steve. Jennifer, if you could switch to the next slide and then the next slide after that.
This property is about twenty point three five acres. Property address is Ridge Road, 9640 Ridge Road. And as you'll hear more about it, it's located in the urban concentration area in the West Market District, as Mr. Zodian has mentioned. Next slide.
the project location i to the east there is um Uh PH F E Pasco Hernandez State College, six hundred and sixty three feet. to the um east. It's walkable from uh from this location. And it provides a housing type that doesn't exist. In anywhere in this area. Next slide.
Mm that we're pointing out where the college campuses there, you kinda kinda see it. Next slide.
As staff has already explained to you, the comprehensive planning amendments from Res One to P D to allow two hundred and thirty apartment units, a maximum of, and ten thousand square feet if commercial or office. Uh I think staff just said office but it's commercial or office. And we think we might likely be commercial. Um, we'd go in that location which would be a great which would be great for um to give those residents uh some place walkable to go and and grab something to eat or drink. We do have a companion MPD op application that will be filed. From
ER to M P U D. Next slide.
So when Steve was explaining to you how he picked the project, it's not a coincidence that he picked this location. And I want to run through with you the infrastructure that that exists at this location. Out in front of this project, Ridge Road is an existing four-lane arterial highway. 52 and 54 are also arterial highways, just to give you the magnitude of what an arterial highway is and the importance of them in our roadway systems. And as you know, after a very, very, very long time, Ridge Road is currently
being extended to Suncoast Parkway in US 41. As uh Steve had mentioned, the project will be served by Central Sewer and Water from Pasco County. Next slide.
This is a it shows you where state where fifty two is, fifty-four, where the project location is, Ridge Road extension, existing Ridge Road, Sun Coast Parkway. And it you'll recall just down the Ridge Road extension from This project is where uh Moffitt is going to be located at Swimpless Parkway and Retro Extension. Next slide.
So I found this pretty interesting um because I don't have this happen very often with a lot of my projects. There is existing bus service right at the door. There's a bus stop at the uh corner of Tanglewood, a county bus stop at the corner of Tanglewood and Ridge Road on the other side. And there's actually two bus routes. for this location. You can assess all of these places by bus from this project so you without do not have any car. You can go to Pasco Rhino State College, West Pasco Government
Center, Social Security Administration, I'm sure they'll add the new VA Hospital on Little Road, North Bay Hospital, Universal Plaza, Downtown New Port Richey, Gulf High School, Golfi Square Mall, Public. Um Dollar General, Windixie, Cole, Walmart, Lowe. All those locations without ever getting in your car, you can take the county's existing um bus stops and routes to to go there. Next up. Next stop. Next slide.
There's an existing trail within Ridge Road that will be extended all the way to Suncloth Parkway in US forty one. As you're all pretty far pretty aware, I'm sure there's a quite a trail system along Sun Coast Parkway. The other thing that's quite interesting about this location is its proximity to a major state park, which is a jewel that I'm not sure everybody really knows exists in West Pasco, but four miles to the west approximately, and you can take your bike because there's sidewalks from here all the way there, is a four
thousand acre state park, Warner Boys Salt Springs State Park. Next slide.
This shows some of the trails, existing sidewalks and trails and proposed sidewalks and trails. Um it's there's a lot plan, a lot existing and a lot planned in the area to even make the trails better. Next slide.
As I mentioned, the project is 663 feet west of the Pasco Ranger State College. That's a 132-acre campus, another gem that we have right in our backyard. And as um as Tina Ayell said from our project, the we're currently zone for Spipers Creek Elementary, Ridge River Ridge Middle School and River Ridge High School. Mm As um Chris Williams can probably explain better than me, multifamily apartments do generate less students than single family. Next slide.
This slide is from the school. They've they've sent us the capacity of of the of the schools that uh this project will be zoned for at this time. You can see the elementary school, the generation is 27 students, middle school 12, high school 16. And you can see with our project, Cyprus Elementary will be at 99%, River Ridge Middle 100%, and River Ridge High 89%. Compared to some of your areas in Wesley Chapel and Long 54, there is quite a bit of
capacity at those schools. And so this is classic and fill where you already have infrastructure and to maximize the public investment in that infrastructure. Next slide.
As you've heard about a little bit from from Ed Zodian, this property has its original nineteen seventy five zoning. It has it's original R One land use. Now what's really important to understand is that a lot of work's been done since the original comp plan. We had a major update of the comp plan in two thousand and six, which I worked on. In 2008 we invited ULI the first time and ULI report identified that we should try to plan by market area. And so that report identified five market areas. In
twenty ten, the Board adopted a Compoint Amendment and established those market areas. Well you're gonna hear a lot about Res One, but but what you really need to focus on is the Comp Plan today and what the Comp Plan has been since 2006, 8, and 10. This property was included in the Westmarket area and the urban concentration area. And that's not by mistake. I just went through all the infrastructure that exists at this location. And so density Todos infrastructure.
En Um that's just the way you do planning so that you have an efficient use of your infrastructure. What's noteworthy is the 2010 amendment to the comp plan, which implemented the market areas, didn't change any land uses on particular properties. So this property implements that those changes to the Complant 2010 because we have to come in and do them one by one because the county's never done any overall land use amendments to make their properties consistent with those new policies
and plans that were implemented in 2010. Res one is no longer consistent with the comp plan for this area. And in fact in two thousand six a policy was added to the Comp Plan. which says principles for limiting sprawl development. Pasco County shall limit the proliferation of large slots for all development pattern over large expansions. large expanses of land by evaluating plan amendments to Res One. So County recognized in two thousand and six that Res One was not a sustainable land use pattern. it
creates over sprawl, it's not efficient where you have all this infrastructure and so the county very d distinctly put into the comp plan it uh policies regarding res one. This property could never be in my professional opinion, this property could never be land use for Res One um and be consistent with the comp plan. Next slide.
These are the market area, the vision of the market area and their comprehensive plan. This property fits exactly into what uh this project, into what the board's vision is for the for the market area. So it's a it's supposed to be an urban, coastal and in inland area. with redevelopment and infill opportunities. And what's interesting about this policy is it says a significant inventory of affordable housing neighborhoods shall be enhanced through infill and redevelopment in a manner that will strengthen their viability. So it's calling out
the need for additional investment in additional housing product and types. And as Mr. McConaughey has explained to you, he has quite the project um planned for this location, which will definitely strengthen the vitality of the whole area. We are by having um a apartment project which is compact and doesn't sprawl and take up a la all the property and we have it clustered through the middle, which I'll show you, it's a compact mixed use. We've included the commercial
aspect or office aspect. Um up along um Ridge Road. And The mission for the West Market area is create a unique location, the choice of living, working, shopping, education, employment, and leisure. Living. Definitely an a some product we don't have at all, shopping. Within walking distance education, within walking distance, employment, twenty-five thousand jobs within twenty minutes. leisure and time opportunities. We went through the trails, we went to the parks.
Um and we also are gonna have an environmentally sound project. Five.
This is your urban concentration area policies. It says that priorities for review of developments in your urban con concentration area You have incentives in your mobility fee structure. You just want to discourage urban sprawl. You want the pol the county should consider minimum densities. Well certainly that's exactly what we have here. We have a density of about eleven units, point three units per acre. Um so that so it is a density that is is an appropriate density in your urban concentration area
because of all of the infrastructure that's there already. Next slide.
This is your transitional land use table and your comprehensive plan, Exhibit 2.2, policy flu 1.4.3 and 1.6.3. These give you guidance. The board gives guidance as to what comprehensive plan um categories are consistent with the others. You'll see that our neighbors are res one. Res one is can be compatible with plan development or if we were Res 12, which would be about the units per acre that we're going to be. Um you can be compatible through your
site design with such things with sufficient buffers, limiting building heights, limiting adjacent uses to passive uses. And you'll see from our plans exactly how we plan to do those things. I would mention that the board has also said for the urban concentration area. They took out the maximum height limitations. So it's the board's policy not to have height limitations in the urban concentration area. Next slide.
So in keeping with those with that transitional land use exhibit and guidelines. We very we took that very seriously. And we looked at our adjacencies and on the west C kind of the the I guess it's more south. east, excuse me, southeast, there's one parcel um existing home. And then on our west boundary we have One, two, three, four four homes. And so in keeping with that Complan
policy of sensitive site design We came up with specific sub area policies to deal with height and to deal with maximum number of stories and to deal with buffering. So as you can see on the west hand side where we have where we have existing homes, there's an existing masonry wall and then we'll have up our own buffer. And what we did was we laid out the project so that the palms create an additional buffer.
So you can see the first building She is the closest home on the west the first um multi story building the four story building for the apartments is two hundred and twenty four feet.
We've also you can see the on the west, on the east side, excuse me, the uh southeast side, the closest building, multi-story four-store apartment building is three hundred and three feet. It's also a pond to create an additional buffer in that location, as well as additional buffering of eight-foot vinyl fence and additional landscaping, well beyond your code requirements. We also do what we step down our height, even though the urban concentration area says we
don't have any height limitation, the board took that out. We step down our height and we put in our comprehensive plan that within 100 feet of those boundaries, structures can be more no more than one story, within 150 feet, no more than two stories. The maximum height is four stories. Um, and so we've we've clustered our multi-store bu buildings to the center of this parcel.
Uh next slide. And all that's in a subway policy to the comp plan, so it's all regulatory. This is our proposed MPUD plan. It's a little unusual because it's also regulatory. I've I think you guys have heard me say this before, that when I when we commit to buffers and we say that You're gonna have ponds next to next to the um property lines. That's what this shows here. So the different color of blue, kind of gray, shows the ponds, shows a development area, limits our development area to
the interior. Um so we have additional ponds and buffering along all of our adjacent seas where there's existing homes and there is Like I said, five of those. Next slide.
With that, um we recommend we ask you to uh support staff's recommendations. as the LTA and and um Recommend approval of the Compoint Amendment.
Unidentified speakerVoice AAll right. Thank you, Barbara. Any questions from up here for now?
John VodaClear enough.
Unidentified speakerVoice AAll right, so moving on to the public comment period, Denise, I think you said to go to the kiosk first.
DeniseYes, if you would.
Unidentified speakerVoice AUm so we'll go ahead at this point and hear comments from the kiosk.
Good afternoon.
As the developer.
Unidentified speakerVoice GThat is. Okay.
Sorry.
Unidentified speakerVoice ADo we have the kiosk?
Matthew MillesiGood afternoon. My name is Matthew Millesi. I live at [address removed]. I'm a bordering property owner. I ask that you not approve this project. Tanglewood has an influx of traffic that The sheriff's office already has a hard time Effectively controlling Especially in the times when Tangle w um Cypress school. This in and out of session. Um
at my property. I'm not looking forward to looking out my back porch. to a four story high rise. Absolutely no privacy protection that a uh six to eight foot wall is going to uh give me from a four-story apartment building. Um my neighbor is also feeling the same thing. She will be talking soon. I I just this is not a very good fit for our small, quiet community. 230
families and it's such a small party land is is just just not a fit. Um I wish you could see the uh the size of the crowd here that Opposing this project. It would be nice if you could maybe step out and see everyone. And they're they all feel the same way that I do. Uh thanks for your time.
Unidentified speakerVoice AAll right, thank you.
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Paul ThatcherNo,
Unidentified speakerVoice Hokay.
John CampanellaBye. Uh thank you for allowing me to speak. My name is John Campanella. I live at [address removed]. I live in Highlands of Tanglewood East. I'm in on lot number five. When my wife and I decided to move into that community. Uh we had previous health issues. And the bottom line is we had looked in the Trinity area. And we had looked at R Steed as well. And the high
tension wires that um That are in that area.
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more amberage voltage, whatever you want to call it. And there's been known studies where the uh high tension wires are above ground. That there are higher levels of can cancer. Uh so we chose to move where we were at that particular time. Now I live in High Highlands of Tanglewood East. There are twenty homes in that community. And I just kinda think, just for the moment, just on the electricity alone. That Our community
is slightly larger than the property in question for this amendment that's uh they're seeking. And with the twenty cones. Take a look at the the amount of uh I guess volts or amps that are are are traveling into that community and so on. But now we're gonna be talking about not only the commercial buildings, but we'd also be talking about The two hundred and thirty apartments. Now with that There's
certainly gonna be Uh to my knowledge That they'd have to be more heavier lines in order to sustain the amperage draw. So that basically concerns me because if you look at we have twenty homes And there's gonna be 230, say, apartments, even forgetting the commercial properties. Well, if you divide 20 uh uh which represents the homes that are in Highlands of Tanglewood East. And you
try and Divide that into the two thirty. It seems like it is like like such a high a much higher percentage of electrical draw. Now if these if the power that's gonna be uh uh provided to that particular piece of land. If it's gonna be above ground That will present uh health issues for everybody in that immediate area. That that's my first concern with the electricity. I also have
concerns about water. Uh We have two. Two properties number Uh fourteen and fifteen. Where our uh retention wall Due to the fact of the moisture in the wetland area. It had to be a little bit more than a little bit caused the uh comprom it it compromised the footing for that particular wall and those two walls on those properties did collapse. So
Now I'm thinking about the fact that there's gonna be less drainage. due to the uh buildings and so on on that site. I understand that are, you know, lower it by by shaving off a lot of the Mr
Unidentified speakerVoice ACampanella, unfortunately your time's up, so
John CampanellaWhat's just
Unidentified speakerVoice Aup? Three minutes is up. Time's up. Thank you. Thank you.
Unidentified speakerYay.
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John Campanellaa quick three minutes, guys. Okay.
Unidentified speakerWell, I don't know.
Anne CoronaOkay petitioners before I start the timer, um I would like to submit petitions on behalf of the residents and have them filed.
Unidentified speakerVoice ADo we need to have a motion to receive? How do I go about doing
Chris Williamsthat?
know if she was given her name yet. Motion to receive and file. Second.
Anne CoronaOkay, thank you.
Okay. Um Good afternoon. My name is Ann Corona and I live at [address removed]. I'm here to reject the plan for um the comprehensive plan to amend the land use. The notion that destroying a large wooded area along with all the associated wildlife Um would not affect the quality of life. of the residents hangled can only be considered absurd and ridiculous. The concept of
a mass influx of unknown voyagers, 230 apartments worth, into our cloistered community. Along with the uh Along with it, um The inappropriate nature of high-rise construction in our quiet residential area is an offensive intrusion that will not be tolerated or accepted. I use the term voyager because they have no routes, are passing through, contributing nothing to the community, not paying taxes, just using up resources.
We do not want, nor do we need retail, commercial, or any additional. Structures on our corner. Um the notion that the um people would be uh working at Mafik is a fairy tale. My brother's a physician in New York and unless you can roll out of bed in thirty seconds and get there, it's useless. We all understand the need for progress, however, this is not that. Coming from an urban area, I see this current trend of the rebuilding of
housing projects as an ugly move backwards. Invariably, the result of high density population is an increase in the amount and type of crime it brings. Tangled residents have always felt safe and secure in their peaceful community. Or a stranger walking down one of our seven streets will not go unnoticed and likely provoke a warning call from a neighbor. Generally speaking, the most egregious crime we experience is damage to a mailbox. Crime studies um by intelligence
led policing in a two mile radius around Tanglewood. demonstrate that Tanglewood has the lowest incidence of crime in that area over the past three years. When compared with areas that ordered the apartment complex, the incidents in Tango would averaged three to four in the two-month period as compared with 100 and the areas surrounding multifamily dwellings. We have crimes such as criminal mischief, while those areas experience crimes such as vehicle theft, robbery, battery stalking,
auto burglary. You get the picture. The sheriff is absolutely not happy with this project. I don't know where that notion comes from, but I have a copy of a letter from him that I received yesterday. He perceives these as virtual cities being dumped into our community, stretching county services to the max. They have a difficult time keeping up with demand. We have the most efficient sheriff's sheriff's office anywhere. But even the Ken Overburdened
and underbut with sudden, unexpected high increases in population. Residents of Pennywood have to be able to do that.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you.
Anne CoronaYeah.
Unidentified speakerVoice IYeah, the standard.
Lisa Sopino, [address removed]. I've been sworn in. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. I'm going to speak for about a minute. We bought our homes in a quiet country neighborhood because we wanted space and land to have gardens and livestock. We've looked on in horror as the insanity that is going on in the state road 54 corridor continues unabated. It's like driving in a NASCAR race. We do not want that for our neighborhood. Already Wildlife is being pushed
north. They have nowhere to go. Already Tanglewood Drive has become a racetrack for drivers in a commuting rush. Roadkill is a constant on our roads and yards now. People drive like maniacs because they're in a hurry. 240 units, I believe it is, on Ridge Road at Tanglewood means a potential of 480 cars minimum added to an already crowded traffic pattern. That doesn't even include Foot traffic Bicycle
traffic and are you gonna put sidewalks on our Tanglewood Road because there are none? Where are these people gonna walk? Kids going to school, where are they gonna walk?
How much more of our woods will be mowed down to make room? When the Ridge Road extension is finished, even more traffic will be funneled through this area, more rushing, more traffic lights, more dead animals, more traffic accidents. We moved here for a quieter lifestyle. And 240 apartments in our backyards is not that. Thank you.
Keep.
Unidentified speakerNext.
Unidentified speakerVoice HHello. My name is Debbie Carlison and I live at [address removed]. I take off my wax.
Unidentified speakerVoice AAnd you have been sworn.
Unidentified speakerVoice Htangled are a long-established community of one acre or larger lots. We live or Please believe us. We live every day there. Believe us. What a negative impact this would be.
Our traffic would greatly intensify on an already dire issue for us. Our community's large population of wildlife would be decimated due to traffic and habitat.
Please do not try. And hammer something in that does not fit. Thank you.
Unidentified speakerVoice JGood afternoon. My name is Pete. I live at [address removed] and I own property on uh Earhart Drive. I've lived in the and I've been sworn in and I've lived in this area for twenty years. Um The area, I heard the applicant refer to this as an urban area several times, and I disagree with that. As you well know, this is a transition area between the urban area to our west and rural areas. I also heard the applicants state that the county had uh put infrastructure
in With the intention of building up this area. And now I know that that is not true. Earlier in my career, I was the utility program administrator for Pasco County. I was personally involved in the development of the Timbergreens booster pump station of the Moon Lake Force Maine, which I presume that the development will have to tie into. In the early 2000 timeframe, the county signed a consent order with the state and the federal government, which initiated the capital
program that I was managing. At that time, we had the ability to put in a force main along Ridge Road because of the transitional nature of this area. At that time, the planning department and the utility department, we did not install that. I understand that the developer is talking about putting bringing utilities to the site. But my point is is the county in in the early two thousands, we had the ability and we had We thought of uh whether this would be developed, and
at that time the decision was made not to do that. Hence, there is no reforcement along Ridge Road. The uh Ridge Road extension and the widening project was subsequently engineered several times and we had the opportunity to redevelop, revisit that decision. We never put the necessary infrastructure in. So to say that it it can be done, anything can be done with enough money. But I personally as a taxpayer would object to tearing up a brand new ridge road that has been widened. uh to change the
transitional nature of this area. I urge you to not to vote down this proposal. Thank you.
Unidentified speakerThank you.
John VodaGood afternoon. Good afternoon. My name is John Boda. I live at [address removed]. I am also a retired utilities project manager. I am the project manager that built the Timber Greens Pump Station. We put in a system that goes all the way from Timber Greens all the way to Shady Hills. There
is no And I say this almost like you guys are lying to us when they say there's utilities available because there is no system that it takes any amount of sewage that that many people would generate. I'm sorry, but it would take miles, millions of dollars to put in a system like that. And that is a basic. lie that they told you. The other thing is the electricity,
there is a distribution line above there which is 10,000 volt. You're not gonna put 10,000 volt into that program. You're gonna have to all go the wall the way to Moon Lake Road. So I would say that they Did not tell you the truth when it came to their distribution and their availability to build in that site. We have other issues too that are coming up from my neighbors, but I thank you for your time.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you, and we'll have the applicant address that in airbottle.
Marjorie GolovHello, my name is Marjorie Golov. I live at [address removed]. Uh I have a lot of problems with this particular proposal, which I'm asking you to reject. I won't go into many of them except for two, which I think are the most severe. One is the population density. Using our area code of 34654, it appears as though our 27 square miles has a density of about 800 people per square mile.
And that includes folks from about 10 fairly low density housing developments. If we take the projected population of these apartments and divide it by the square miles that the rests on, we're looking at 20,000 people per square mile, which is a significant density in compatibility. And that construction will be directly in the middle of this area. It's not on the edge, it's not transitioning,
it's in the middle. The second aspect that is um just difficult to live with is the traffic. Tanglewood Drive is currently a narrow, not a wide, a narrow two-lane road, no sidewalks, no shoulders, and there are signs on it allowing bike traffic and horses. So that's the kind of road it is. The speed limit is 30 miles an hour. And I kind of embarrassed
to say that I probably drive forty miles an hour on it pretty much every time I'm on it. And frequently I get passed by people going at least 60 miles an hour. So there's no thinking that there's going to be slower traffic or less traffic. In addition, it is the only entrance to our neighborhood schools, which they talked about so much, elementary school. And for us, at uh at in the morning and in the
evening, when the children are being picked up and dropped off. Tangowood is completely blocked for for blocks. And um there's no way of getting through. I sincerely hope that the government is interested in protecting the living conditions in the existing adjacent neighborhoods and would suggest there's a more compatible use for this property than a 230-unit apartment building. Thank you for your time.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you.
Burt GollumMy name is Burt Gollum. I live at [address removed]. And I am definitely opposed to this project along with the people of Tangwood East. Hidden lakes and the highlands for the following reasons. I've lived there for 30 years, like I say, and what we see is, as was just mentioned, is a tremendous traffic problem, which is only going to increase with 230 residents. And probably if most people have two cars as a common, you're talking about 460 cars
additionally in this area. Uh Tanglewood Drive, as was mentioned, is a small road. It has no shoulders, it winds through residential areas. And uh on top of which there have already been at least one fatality that I know of down at the Kubis and Tanglewood and numerous accidents on Tanglewood Drive as well as at the ends. the traffic is only gonna be increased and that'll lead to people looking for shortcuts, which brings them through the center part of Tanglewood
East, meaning along Tanglewood Drive, uh Sycamore, uh Delray. And um Another road again about uh uh Dantel. It's the yellow road. Ridge Road itself is sometimes very busy in its own way and trying to turn west crossing traffic could create a major problem or they would have to take another U-turn and another uh further to the west of or to the east of the road. The other point I'm I'd be interested in is is not or that that concerns me is changing the zoning from a state
residential to multi-family family. This will definitely decrease property values in our neighborhood and bring in transient renters, which is not a good idea. I would hope that uh you would look into the uh quality the apartments that are gonna be built. Online you find that many of them, uh many of the residents that are complaining about thin walls and lack of management services. That's online and I would think that would be of a concern to the quality we're gonna see. Uh it will
not attract, by the way, medical personnel. Having been a health right thing, I would do is look for a single family home if I was to move to an area. Uh I I lived our partners for at least 10 years, and I can tell you that's not the first choice I would have. As far as college students, leave them on the college campuses. If you've ever lived in an off off-site uh college environment, you know that that's not the best place to move or the quietest. In summary this will not be a little bit more than a little bit. be a benefit to the residents of
our area. If anything, it'll only be a benefit financially to the developers and uh and those connected to this project. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
Unidentified speakerVoice AWell the next person's coming up. I know you guys have done a good job so far, but try to keep the um comments unique.
Unidentified speakerVoice K[address removed]. And I am opposed to this project.
Because uh uh motor vehicle traffic that is gonna increase. Um I have problems now with the traffic that's on the road. I walk my dogs Several times a week and it's I'm just Going on Tanglewood Drive. It's too dangerous to me. Uh Waff on Sycamore Drive and some of the cul-de-sacs that are on that road. Um much safer but with this property development
it's not going to be safe. I have a feeling it's gonna be much more dangerous because of the increased traffic. Um I also worry a bit about the college that's down the road. They was that is a A potential benefit. But see it sometimes the students getting together and renting an apartment, several of them Yeah, increasing again the capacity for the traffic that's on the road. So Um just a lot of negatives and uh not very many positives. Uh profit is one
thing, but it should be at the detriment of of the live in the neighborhood. So thank you for your time.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you. Yeah. And before before we have the next speaker, I know I don't know if you guys can hear me out there, but I know you guys have done a good job. I know there's a lot of you out there to speak. If you can just try to keep the the comments, we've heard a lot of comments about traffic. If you can keep your comments unique, we know traffic is a concern for a lot of you here, so just try to keep your comments unique and some ones that we haven't already heard.
Megan BraskHi, my name is Megan Brask. I live at [address removed]. I've been sworn in. I'm here today very pregnant and over a week past my due date because that's how important this meeting is to me. It is also a bit poetic that we're here to oppose this on Earth Day. I am one of the few homeowners who will be directly affected by this proposed project because we share a property line. I have many concerns with this moving forward and strongly oppose it to go any further. The Ridge Road extension has already shown us how little it takes to damage and
endanger our beautiful Florida ecosystem we are so lucky to have here. It is still being fought currently because a Florida Panther was found deceased on the construction site. As someone whose property is so close to this project, I witness wildlife every day that deserves to be protected. I have personally seen bobcats, gopher tortoises, white-tailed deer, coyotes, raccoons, opossums, armadillos, and a wide variety of native birds, just name a few. I've also heard Florida
Panthers communicate from that property, all of which will die in the event of a development. This is a lot of land that you just want to rip away from them, and that's a lot of animals you would be pushing out into surrounding properties around the area. and busy roads that don't need to be put in risk that way. That land should be protected, but the least that I ask is that you keep it zoned estate residential. However, my only concern is not just the wildlife being uprooted and forced to move more into the residences, but the risk involved with introducing
such a large apartment commercial complex to this area. You never know who's moving in and there would be hundreds of residences living there at a time, most who have no desire to stay there long term. That much flow being on top of my house brings all kinds of risk to my growing family, from increased pets turned loose by people who won't bring them with them when they move out, to potential for criminal activity. Do they really know who they're letting sign a year lease? Is it an invitation for troublesome activities? Even something as simple as teenagers
feeling entitled to trespass on our properties? I moved here for my space and privacy. This part of Florida is so unique in the fact that this perfect spot has distance between neighbors, beautiful lands, and agricultural opportunities. Don't steal this from the loyal residents you already have established. Developing an apartment complex at this location is one of the worst things I can imagine happening to our property value in this community. I understand the desire to expand, but don't expand here. Thank you for your consideration.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you, Megan.
Next.
Unidentified speakerVoice LHello, my name is Diane Ray. I live at [address removed]. I have been sworn in. I was planning on just coming up here and stating that I was another person that was against this project. However, a neighbor asked that I say a couple of points that he didn't get to make. He made an indication to me that this rezoning issue appears to be spot zoning. He also has made an indication to me to let you guys know that we have 35 people out in this lobby that have not been in are
not intending on speaking. They are not intending on coming up in front of you today. But because of the fact that you guys have dropped the mask law, school buses have been fully loaded and the schools are open, but we are not allowed to come in there and state how we feel we do not feel we are getting a fair chance to show how many are opposed to this issue. We really do urge you to come and see these 35 people so that they can feel represented as well. Thank you.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you.
Unidentified speakerYeah.
Unidentified speakerVoice MHi, I'm Cheryl Klein Evangelista, and yes, I've been sworn in. My husband and I are both born and raised in Florida. We've lived in Tanglewood East for five years. We also own a brick and mortar retail store on US 19. Our business has been operating for about 12 years in the Newport Ritchie area. As business owners with a specialty business where people come from all over the state and even other states to visit, we wanted to keep our business life and personal
life completely separate. This is why we chose Tanglewood East, a rural area where we can stretch out and have birds, rabbits, dogs, really appeal to us. There are chickens, pigs, deers, all types of wildlife adjoining us, making Tanglewood East the ideal subdivision. These are reasons I would oppose this amend. am this proposed amendment. My comment, please deny. P, property
values affected negatively, transients renting apartments with a commercial retail office complex. L Loud noises, bright lights, dumpsters, two hundred and thirty apartment units will most likely equal five hundred individuals. E, established neighborhood. We are now agricultural residential with a low density. You're asking us to appro to uh To
to put a high density complex right in the middle of two low density subdivisions. A. Auto accidents, increased traffic. Already a busy road with an elementary school right on the main road. S surrounding neighborhoods, safety's compromised. Crime. We're gonna have crime in Hidden Lakes, Highlands of Tanglewood East, and all the adjoining subdivisions. E. The environmental impact, digging
for new sewer lines, septic systems, electric into proposed apartments and commercial units. How will this affect our wells, our pumps, our drainage systems in the Tanglewood East subdivision? Deny. D, detrimental effects on the area, destroying wildlife that we're supposed to be protecting. Eight. Be empathetic to our situation. If this was you and your families,
would you want this past in your neighborhood? I ask each and every one of you, would you want this in your backyard? In nightlight effects of renters and commercial shopping centers. We're gonna have loud music, we're gonna have gangs congregating at the shopping centers with their bicycles, their skateboards, their fast cars, and drug exchanges, and God only knows what else. And the last is why. Yielding
more criminal activity in the area. I have volunteered for Pasco County Sheriff's Office in Property Crimes for four years. And I will tell you that crime
Unidentified speakerVoice AMrs. Klein,
Unidentified speakerVoice MI'm sorry
Unidentified speakerVoice Ayour your time's up. So uh I apologize. I appreciate you coming out
Unidentified speakerVoice Min more affluent areas.
Unidentified speakerVoice AHold on one second. Sorry she unmuted? Should be good now. You gonna try again?
Somebody's coming out there. Just wait one second. Okay, you're good.
Eva SpizakOkay. Hi, my name is Eva Spizak. I live at [address removed]. I live right next door to Cypress Elementary, not Cypress Creek Elementary, that you heard in the developer's presentation. Perhaps we need to fact check additional info on this project. I object to the rezoning and development of an apartment complex at the entrance of my neighborhood, Tangawood East, corner of Bridge Road and Tangawood Drive. I moved to my neighborhood over twenty years ago. Because of the laid back community
it offers with houses on acre plus lots. My concern is that having an apartment complex at the entrance will change the character of the neighborhood. Create safety and traffic issues while decreasing property value. According to apartment.com, there are 224 available apartments in Newport Ritchie at this moment and growing. There's plenty of land to be developed in our area that would not disrupt or negatively change the local community.
I respectfully request that you preserve our neighborhood, a gem of Pasco County, and reject the rezoning of this residential area.
Paul ThatcherThank you.
Unidentified speakerBut it's not the number.
Paul ThatcherMy name is Paul Thatcher. And I'm here to object. Two
Unidentified speakerVoice Aplus. Carl, can we have your name and address and have you been sworn?
Paul ThatcherThank you. Paul Thatcher, [address removed], and I have been sworn in.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you.
Paul ThatcherMy wife and I both object to to the rezoning of this property. for various reasons that have already been explained, but a couple that have not been
the large number of apartments that have been suggested to be done on this property. Would cause a very serious increase to the power necessary to run these properties that have not been. Fully explained. to the power companies for this area. And I know this for a fact. I'm a retired boilermaker for over fifty years. The United States is very much in stress over power
supply. Texas is a prime example of it. When it froze out. its power supply this past winter. You're very aware of what happened out there. With their windmills freezing up. And never Uh Solar panels not operating. The flood waters that are not being taken care of right here. In Tanglewood East. Because
of a zoning that was changed Mag In the early two thousand Yeah. Change When you folks approved a zoning change behind lows. Dead mood. A canal That drained Bass Lake Two Cody River. which moved water from Bass Lake into my swamp area in Tanglewood East, which
now floods me out. When we get a lot of rain. Guess what? You approve this? In Tanglewood East again. You're gonna flood me out again. Well, I hope you do not. Change, change. This zoning. 'Cause it will give me all this additional water. 'Cause this is where it's gonna come to is right here in Tanglewood East. The
other things are evacuation of these additional people
When it comes time when a hurricane And they're gonna come.
Evacuation of this area. I have seen the evacuations. I've lived here in Florida since nineteen eighty nine. When they tried to get out of Miami.
Coming up ninety five. Bumper to bunker. All of ninety five coming northbound. Across Gator Alley. Coming over to 75 and trying to get up it both lanes.
Can you imagine us trying to get out of here out of ridge? One fifty two the moon lake?
Unidentified speakerVoice AYeah, Mr. Thatcher, I my apologies, but your time is up.
Paul ThatcherThank you. Please do not approve this. Thank you.
Unidentified speakerVoice NHi, my name's Andre Bowes of [address removed]. And I've been sworn in. Um I don't really have much more to say than what these people have already said, except when these companies come in. They like to do a lot of smoke and mirrors. They paint the pretty picture. And uh you'll notice that on their slideshow, they um they said Boyce Assault Park, and that's way up on US 19. They didn't say anything about Starkey Park. And the reason they didn't say anything about Starkey Park, because to get to Starkey Park, every one of those
people who live in those 250 apartment carbs would have to drive right through Tanglewood Drive to get to get to Start D part. Okay, that's it they they paint these pretty pictures but the fact is they they they you know paint to what you want to see and not not the fact. So um what I want to say is just this is that what they're trying to do is they're trying to stick 250 units in a 10,000 square foot facility, smack dab on into Tanglewood. It's in our neighborhood. It's between
our two entrances. And I hope when you vote for this thing, you say to yourself, hey, if this was at the end of my street, I wouldn't like it. So please vote this down. Thank you.
Unidentified speakerVoice OHello? My name is Gilbert Saravia. I live at [address removed]. My wife Cindy and I moved to Pasco County in nineteen seventy nine and have lived as a renter in a duplex on Delaware Avenue in New Port Richey? As a first time homeowner on Nova Scotia Drive in Regency Park And finally, as a my dream homeowner. which I had built on a two acre
lot in Hidden Lake Estates. I had an office on Condra Street in New Port Richey, which I worked out of from nine nineteen eighty until two thousand and eighteen. When I retired and am and am very familiar with the changes that have occurred in this area in the last forty years. And they have not always been positive. I want to speak against the proposed rezoning of the land in question on the corner of Bridge Road and Tanglewood. Because of said negative changes I obser have observed in the past.
Shortly after I opened my office, the county impose severe water res water use restrictions Much of which still exists today. These restrictions were imposed on us even on our primary water use or our sprinkler only water use or Even though we had personal wills on personal property. The reason given
The reason given was was that um the depletion of the aquifer, and the depletion of drainage land and water retention land that could replenish the aquifer due to increased residential and commercial development that was outstripping the aquifer water supply. I asked the commissioners. How the parking lot necessary to support the proposed apartment complex will affect the replenishment of the aquifer in this area. and the
already burdensome water restrictions we are forced to live under. When we moved here in nineteen eighty. There was an apartment complex on Congress and Ridge Road that rented to seniors only. My career. Many nearby apartment complexes were changed to the or built to accommodate Section eight low income housing. The increase in crime and gang activity in the area was noticeable. I asked the commissioners how long before the this proposed department complex is turned into
Section 8 housing. With the potential spike in crime in this area. I am not opposed to landowners.
Being able to develop their own property, but this proposed change in zoning would be devastating to the preferences and desires of neighboring developments. This area should be a good idea. stay single family home on at least half acre lots, with commercial property, if necessary, being limited to a narrow strip of land adjacent to and a Butting Ridge Road. I assume the land was purchased and developed by the original owner with the knowledge that it was owned as only very low density. Single family home. With
this in mind, I believe the landowner should be more than willing to accept the compromise.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you, sir.
Unidentified speakerVoice PHello everyone, my name is Shannon Whitmer. I'm at [address removed]. It is critical to our neighborhood of Tanglewood that you listen to our words. The proposed project would absolutely be devastating to the quality of life in the Tanglewood subdivision. In that traffic issues alone, I know you've heard it, they're very bad. This project would render the roads unusable. Anyone needing emergency services would be completely prevented due to some of the roads not being accessible during periods of the
day. People could literally die from traffic congestion. Tanglewood is a rural community with half acre or more land on each property. Dropping a small city in the middle of this neighborhood is the epitome of incongruence. There is no single project that can be conceived that would be more inappropriate for this neighborhood. You would be forced to change the zoning for this project. This land was never intended for this use, nor is it wanted. All of our original deeds for a property literally
spell out that this type of project is off limits. Most of us, if not all of us, purchased our properties and we did so to get away from the type of urban buildup that is trying to be forced upon us. This is not wanted or welcome in this neighborhood. We all bought here for a more rural type of living. We were looking for peace and quiet in a low density area. Please do not allow these developers, Mr. Stephen McConaughey from Dockside Investors and BDC Investors to take the rural
community of Tanglewood that we have put our life savings and hope in and allow it to be changed forever by the ugliness that is urban sprawled. Again, specifically, traffic would increase beyond what our neighborhood can handle. Crime would most definitely spike. It does not take a genius to figure out, nor money wasted on a study, just common sense. Cypress Elementary already has a freeze, the same school that that woman was talking about. It has a freeze. It cannot
take any more children. Where will the tortoises go? I know someone mentioned that. We love our tortoises, and they are classified as threatened. We as a community of Tanglewood do not oppose change. Just take a look at how Tanglewood has changed. We prefer to conserve and preserve, keeping the land zone as intended. It would help to protect this area from becoming more like a city. Building homes on one acre lots. or more would be a way
to stay within this type of specific area that we live in, that our r this is what our community is. I cannot speak for Highlands or anyone else, but I'm pretty sure they're on the side of no. Because this will affect them in a huge way as well. But on behalf of the residents of Tanglewood, we say no, thank you. Let the voices of the ones affected and will have to live with this life-changing decision trump the voice of big money and others who do not live in Tanglewood and
have a personal interest in this project in some way, shape, or form. And I respectfully ask all of you to give some of us a rebuttal. None of us were aware of this. We were only told by our commissioner three minutes and that was it. And one more thing I was given from someone
Unidentified speakerVoice AUnfortunately, Ms. Woodward, your time's up. I apologize.
Unidentified speakerVoice POkay, thank
Unidentified speakerVoice Ayou.
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Cindy SarabiaMy name is Cindy Sarabia. I live at [address removed]. I've been sworn in and I've lived there for 33 years. I haven't heard one mention of we live in an airport community. My grandchildren can't even fly a drone, and they're gonna build a four-story building right next door to it. This think about this. This is a rural area. You know, the whole The beauty of this area is that everybody has land around the houses, residential, you know, one home. We don't
need an apartment complex. I'm old enough to see what apartment complexes have done to neighborhoods over the years. And it hasn't been good. What they were saying is lies. It's lies what's gonna happen. And that's all I have to say. We have animals. We have now where are the animals gonna go? On the runway? Where are these kids gonna play in this apartment complex? On our runway? You know, let's uh be realistic here and vote this down.
Unidentified speakerVoice ANo, thank you.
Yeah.
Unidentified speakerVoice GWell, this is a good one.
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Unidentified speakerchange. Okay. Um
Anne Coronaso we're down to our um two that were approved for fifteen minutes each.
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay. Twenty. Mike has twenty, right? Is that right? Yes. Denise. Twenty, sorry. Okay, no problem.
Unidentified speakerOkay. Yeah.
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay.
Unidentified speakerYeah,
DeniseMike, one second, I think. Just a moment, Mike, we're just gonna load your PowerPoint.
Unidentified speakerVoice QSure.
Chris WilliamsYeah, they're not creating awfully.
This is democracy.
DeniseGo ahead when you're ready.
Michael SalaOkay. Mike Lutala, [address removed]. I've been sworn in. Um
I'd like to thank you all for letting us speak today. I'd like to show you a few slides and speak about the area and then address a few portions of the application and then conclude my comments. I have 20 minutes of additional time that I appreciate, but I won't use hardly most of it. Um Someone did mention ask me in here, I must have the face. to uh add that there is thirty-five people who are not speaking who are Uh watching who are opposed to it but
chose not to speak. So I guess those are the people that would be sitting in the chairs. Um Happy Earth Day. And you could put a podium out here, just just a side note. Thank you. Yeah.
Okay, so we can go to uh slide two.
So the location of the pro proposed comprehensive plan amendment exists along the south side of a section of Ridge Road lying between uh Little Road and Moon Lake Road. This portion of Ridge Road has benefited from the infrastructure improvements over the years in conjunction with the anticipated extension to the Sun Coast Parkway. which was delayed for many years as we all know due to permitting and has recently been approved and construction is underway and ongoing. The mandate for the extended Ridge Road extension of Ridge Road to Sun Coast Parkway was
predicated on the much needed east-west evacuation route for West Pasco residents to supplement the only other east-west routes which are 52, State Road 52, and State Road 54. While Ridge Road has benefited from the infrastructure improvements, including poor laning. No one should should confuse it with the designated growth corridors such as the east-west six-lane 54-56 corridor, where there are significant infrastructure improvements, which continue to
involve the uh evolved to facilitate the expansion of the urbanized development. And as encouraged. Uh by the county's efforts to reduce or eliminate transportation fees for office, industrial, hotel, residential, and apartments. This section of Ridge Road is not designated as a growth corridor in those terms. Uh next slide please.
So over the years not much has changed along this this section of Ridge Road. The future land use classifications along this section, with the exception of the nodes, which are located at the intersection of Ridge Road and Moon Lake Road. have largely remained as origin originally designated on the comprehensive plan. This is reflective of the character of the area which is established low density residential rural development. However, there are a variety of existing uses, most of which were approved
and developed Forward to the nineteen ninety one comprehensive plan. This section of ridge provides access to a wide variety of uh rural residential development that is largely dependent on well and septic tanks. Next slide, please.
The the zoning districts in the vicinity, with the exception of the aforementioned nodes at Ridge and Moon Lake, are primarily one-acre single-family detached fee simple homes on individual lots with well and cyclic. and larger master plan unit developments Multiple use developments with expansive open areas. Uh effective transitional uses. and minimal but well executed presence on Ridge Road.
The character of this area has been cast. as evidenced by the development that has consumed virtually the entire area, save for a few undeveloped parcels. Slide five.
The subject twenty acre parcel and the twenty three acre parcel adjacent to the west.
were once owned as a single parcel by Rancho Del Sierro. The original developer tank was each time. Later, the adjacent twenty-three acre parcel was sold off and in the year two thousand was developed as the Highlands of Tango East. A 20-lot, one-acre, single-family detached, be simple development with homes on individual lots in character with the area.
Next slide.
In the next few slides I'll illustrate how development along this section of Ridge Road has commenced while preserving its natural beauty through design based on The understated presence, attention to character, and mostly important, scale of development in the area. And unusually good planning and design that has withstood so far being developed some twenty to fifty years ago. Uh next slide.
So first let's tangle with east. One of the oldest. This was first developed in nineteen seventy one. And we also see that the location of the subject site at the entrance of Tanglewood Drive.
Um
Matthew MahoneyNext slide.
Michael SalaHere we see from that same intersection of Tanglewood Drive and Ridge Road looking southwest, the subject site and the approximate frontage along Ridge Road. Uh next slide.
This is the entrance to Tanglewood East from Sycamore Drive. And Ridge Road looking south. Yeah, next slide.
And this is the entrance to the highlands of Penguin East. Again, Fermidge Road looking south. Slide eleven, please.
This is the parcel of the Highlands of Tanglewood east. That is adjacent to the subject parcel and what's developed in the character and density and scale of the area. Is that previously mentioned? And you could see the subject side right next to it. And here we're looking west, along the ridge. Uh next slide.
Hidden Lake Subdivision is a upscale, fee simple, single family detached residential development. that features a private use airport. Next slide. Many of the homes in development have attached garages for their aircraft. Next slide. Project, design, scale and entrances are consistent with the character and scale of the development in the area. Development. It I'm sorry, it was developed prior to the nineteen ninety one compla comprehensive plan. It has a future
land user price three and a regional zoning of R one.
Uh next slide.
River Ridge MPDRI is a well-planned development with multiple types of transitioning, residential land uses, and significant amounts of naturally wooded areas. It also allows large amounts of commercial, office and public service uses. Next slide. The minimal exposure design and scale of the ridge road entrance is consistent with the character and scale of the area. Next slide.
The area was d developed prior to the nineteen ninety one Comp Plan. It has a future land use of Res III and a zoning district of M Bud.
And it should be noted that this project It's over thirteen hundred acres. It has over two thousand residential units. uh over 263,000 square feet of commercial, 240,000 square feet of office, and includes 90 acres of public service. Next slide, please.
Other development in the area includes Oh I'm sorry. At ahead of myself. Paul Aerial Power Corporation is a manufacturer of air filtration devices for military applications. The facility has one entrance on Bridge Road. and minimal exposure while accommodating the the needs of their uh transportation. And if you look closely, you can see a FedEx semi-tractor trailer way back there that just made a huge
turn to get in. And it almost instantly disappears once it's on site. Next slide, please.
Approved and developed part of nineteen ninety one comprehensive plan. It has a comprehensive plan flu of restoration. And P U D zoning district. Next slide.
Other development in the area includes Faith Baptist Church. This site has been a church since at least the 1980s and is located just west of the Sycamore Ridge Road into Seth Weightman. Next slide.
This is Tanglewood Learning Center. And it's located on the south side of a former church that has been at the location since at least 1980. And this is the east side of the intersection of Ridge and Sycamore. Slide twenty two.
Millennium Academy is located on a former church site. of many years and is located on the north side of Ridge Road. Next slide.
Sunrise Church.
Sunrise Church is on the south side of Ridge Road and has been there for a number of years. I don't know how many. Slide twenty four.
Pasco Hernando State Count College is contained on their site. Which has been occupied since the early 1970s, and have maintained an unobtrusive, low-key presence along Ridge Road. Next slide.
Yeah, next slide.
So this is taken from the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan. Application for an amendment. Question three C One.
For the applicant to respond to uh says
Analyzed the consistency of the proposed future land use classification with the goals, objectives, and policies of the comprehensive plan, justified the need for the requested amendment, including the appropriate data analysis to support the requested change, illustrating how the amendment is consistent with further vari uh various objections and policies of a comprehensive plan.
And to justify The justification shall include but not be limited to Adjacent land use compatibility. public facility availability and demonstrated need for the demand. For the purposes of this conversation Okay. Uh I'm gonna focus on adjacent land use compatibility.
Next slide.
Hate to bore you with all this rating. But the adjacent land use compatibility is addressed in the Com plan Element flu one point four point three transition land uses, which states Pasco County shall evaluate comprehensive plan amendments to ensure that transitional land uses are provided as a buffer between residential and non-residential land uses designations. between varying densities of residential land use designations. and
in managing redevelopment of areas no longer appropriate as viable residential areas. And this is done in accordance with Exhibit 2.2, appropriate land use. Transitions, appropriate transition land use. And that's a guideline for evaluating. Of transactional land uses. Next slide.
Now this may be difficult to read.
This will list all the comprehensive Plan future land use classifications in table format to illustrate which When put side by side Are compatible transitional uses or those that can be transitional uses, compatible transitional uses. From this table. At the intersection of res one and P D Land uses, which is the output's request. We see that it
is not automatically designated as a compatible trend transitional land use.
Next slide.
So
My picture is blocking and this monitor is blocking part of this, so I need to read it off a paper.
So when you look up the intersection of those two land uses, you don't see that it's automatically approved. You see, you have to go to this. And that's uh can be a compatible transitional use with sensitive site design. Transitioning lot sizes. Sufficient buffers. Limiting building heights. architectural controls and limiting hours of operation. Limiting adjacent uses to passive Unobtruste
unobtrusive uses For example, no dumping, site loading. Lighting, lighting, noise. Odor. Right. Hazardous materials. This may require MPD, which the applicant's going to do. to address these issues. And then it goes on to speak about uh uh conditions that don't apply to us today.
Next slide.
Contrasting the proposed development with sibil similar projects. This apartment complex is located in Starkey Ranch. Here the apartments are are along the development corridor at the major intersection of SR fifty four and gun highway. Starkey apartments transition to a large public space shopping center on the east, and high density single family detached Homes on the West. And State Road 54 is on the south.
Unidentified speakerVoice RSo you can skip
Michael Salathirty one, please go to thirty two.
This is the Gables apartment complex loaded located in Port Ritchie, west of US nineteen. This development represents what can be accomplished through the innovative use and redevelopment of existing commercial uses along US 19. The US nineteen corridor. Slide please.
Were countless opportunities for redevelopment of commercial two apartment complex exist. And we can see that this is Dillard's in the Mall on nineteen and the apartment complexes in the back re as a redevelopment, which is very good.
Uh next slide please.
This is the proposed development concept plan as part of the subject comprehensive plan amendment. When considering the sensitive site design criteria. of the comprehensive plan exhibit two point two. The applicant has not proposed any transitioning lot sizes. Land use transitions or sufficient buffers from the proposed building heights, density, intensity, or sensory intrusions of the proposed density of over ten times the
existing density on the property and the surrounding area. Which cannot be mitigated on such a limited size parcel for the proposed use of PD abutting a res one. Free to landing as if you play. The proposed urban design apartment complex is not consistent with any attribute, character, density, intensity, or scale of the existing development pattern in the area. and would be an aberrant intrusion and inc incongruent
with the tenets of good site planning and design. at this location. Conversely, this footprint and design may be totally appropriate in an urbanized area or area Yeah. Oh. Commercial redevelopment, for example. And those opportunities are on Ridge Road. A a mile and a quarter to the west of the site.
Mm mm. Based on a recent Pasco County rental demand analysis. Dated February twenty twenty one. which was received in conjunction with that application for apartment complex that was consistent with the comp plan. Of the twenty-two class A apartment communities in Pasco Since twenty ten. Over six thousand class A apartment units have been developed. Virtually every one of those apartment complexes sited, except for three,
Unidentified speakerVoice Sare located on or within the immediate proximity of the 54-56 corridor. None are located within miles of the subject site. But the closest one is a Golfi Square Mall.
Michael SalaUh slide thirty five.
In response to the subject application for Complan Amendment question referencing transitional land use, including the exhibit 2.2 that we've talked about many times.
DeniseYeah,
Michael Salathere's one more minute.
Uh the applicant has Given this response. Consistent with the policy flu 1.3 point 1.4.3, this project is a transition through time. Of the conversion of a residential use of the easy. to higher in intensity residential and office uses in the area where the character has changed and low density residential is no longer appropriate. an an appropriate long term lu use. Significant investments
have been made in existing public infrastructure. In this area. And the area has been included in the county's urban concentration area. And West Market District. Attention will be paid in the MPD zoning to site design and sufficient buffers. To the existing residents, to the users.
A little humor here. You know this explanation
Unidentified speakerVoice AMike's twenty, I apologize, that's twenty minutes.
Michael SalaOkay, I'm about to close.
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay.
Michael SalaOkay.
Clearly. Well this explanation about time being a mitigating factor um is new to me. I've never heard of it before and I don't know if it's in the complan. However Clearly, with all due respect, Yeah, but does not appear to have sa s satily answered the question. uh sufficiently to be deemed consistent with the comp plan. And next slide please.
Unidentified speakerVoice AMike, I'm I'm gonna have to cut it off. I I can't I I I
Michael Salahad to cut everybody off.
Okay. Because the proposed use of a department complex cannot properly fit on the site due to its size and location. and is an obvious and apparent intrusion into the long established development in the area and cannot meet the siding requirements criteria for transitional land use, I would ask the Planning Commission to deny the applicant. And request that you send that to the board.
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Unidentified speakerVoice TYeah, Mr. Laporte here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unidentified speakerVoice AI think this one one was 15 minutes. Is that right? Yes, I'll
Craig Laportetry not to use it all up, but you
know
I'm a lawyer. I'm likely to go over.
Unidentified speakerVoice AMike Mike promised that he wouldn't use hardly any of his time, so
Craig LaporteMr. Chairman, Commissioners, my name is Craig Laporte. I reside at [address removed]. And yes, I have been duly sworn and accepted the oath. Um let me start out first of all by just telling you a little bit. I I I'm not gonna rehash everything that you've heard. What I want to share with you is that some of you know I've been a resident of Pasco County since 1972. I know your chairman was born and raised in Pasco County in Newport Ritchie, and I've seen the incredible
growth over the past 49 years. uh in this community, some of it great, some of it not so great, some of it frankly terrible. But the one thing that has been a constant is that the areas around Bass Lake, Tanglewood East, Pen Lake Estates. of Highlands, uh, golden acres. It has always been zoned residential, low density, either one acre homes or half acre
homes. And the half acre homes only came up when Mike Boyce agreed to uh uh the the zoning request On the Highlands. We have seen rapid growth everywhere around us, and this Planning Commission is aware of the fact that. There has been Water's Edge grown up uh River Ridge has has uh has has developed, but again, they were in a municipal unit planning division. They are saying consistent
with the nature of residences in the area where The developers plan to put this apartment complex. So I'm actually here to talk to you and I'm going to be closing, so um thank you for staying awake this long. Um I'm here on behalf of two things. Number one, myself, and number two, I'm here on behalf of Hidden Lake Airport. And the governing board of Hidden Lake Airport. So I want to talk about Hidden Lake Airport because that's something that has not been discussed very much tonight. Hidleck
Airport was developed in 1971 as an aviation community. Many of you know it. Again, uh it's Res 1 and Res III housing. Everybody out there's got an acre or more of property. The airport is a private use airport. And that is very important for you because contrary to what I understand that the developer and the developer's agent have told you having FAA approval for this project. That's not
possible. They may have FAA approval But the FAA will not come out and do a site plan look at the safety of a private airport unless it is a private airport of public use, which we are not. So the FAA approval that has been referenced to you simply says that a four story apartment building on Ridge on Ridge Road is not going to affect The traffic patterns for Tampa International Airport, St. Pete Clearwater Airport, Clearwater Executive Airport, and
Brooksville Airport. Zephyrhills Airport, and to some extent Pilot Country, because it's a private public use airport. No one's suggesting that a Boeing 777 is going to be flying at five or six hundred feet over this apartment complex. However There are going to be lots of airplanes flying directly over this apartment complex on a daily and weekly basis, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. We are a 24-7 airport
with lighted capability, with nighttime abilities, with precision approach indicators for our runways. And our main runway. Runs. North east to south west. Or contrary to that. Southwest to northeast. That's runway five and two, three. Aircraft traffic is governed by FAA regulations, and we are required to use what's called a left-hand traffic pattern. That means that aircraft coming in and out of Hiddle
Lake Airport, as they're coming into Hiddleck Airport, if they're going to use the Northeast runway. They're going to establish a parallel course to the runway With the runway on the left and they are going to be at a thousand feet as they enter the traffic pattern up around Hidden Lake. They are then going to be descending And the turning point to turn from downwind to base leg is guess where? right over this new plan development. You're gonna have
You're gonna have aircraft flying slow. Low And in a landing approach corridor, which is one of the most dangerous times for a pilot and crew. And candidly for the people beneath it. So you're suddenly going to put 230 apartments with pr presumably four to five hundred people directly under the most critical aspect of an approach corridor to a private airport. And let me get this straight. Although we have eighty Samoad aircraft based
at Hidden Lake Airport, we service a lot more. There is transient aircraft that come in. We are the only emergency airport with a letter of agreement with the Board of County Commissioners to serve in the event of a natural or man-made disaster. We have agreements in place that will allow the National Guard, the Coast Guard, uh uh federal emergency management personnel and emergency and uh uh volunteers to come in to that airport in the event of a of an emergency. We
also fly somewhere between forty to sixty kids. on Saturday mornings in a program called Young Eagles that provides an opportunity for young people to learn about aviation and see if they're interested in that career. We fly those about eight times a year in the spring and in the fall. That starts out at eight o'clock on Saturday mornings. Now, we've been very good neighbors, I believe, with Tanglewood, and with Highlands, we've been good neighbors with Water's Edge. We do
everything we can to keep our noise problems down. But remember we're coming in over a very Rural area, the houses are spread apart. You put 230 apartments directly under the landing corridor for this airport. I guarantee you your county commissioners are gonna get noise complaints on a regular basis, regardless of whether they sign something that says they understand they live near an airport. They did that in Clearwater for many years. People had to sign agreements when they bought property saying they lived in an area of an airport.
And guess what? It did nothing to minimize the noise complaints. If anything, it exacerbated it. So you're gonna have noise problems, you're gonna have safety issues. If an airplane taking off out of Hidden Lake Airport has an emergency, That area over there is one where they could possibly safely set down, or even if it was low density housing, find a street and avoid a house. But if they end up having to go in and strike an apartment complex with four or five hundred people in it, the casualties
could be very, very substantial. So there's a significant safety issue that you need to give consideration to, and which very frankly, the developer. Has minimized by saying, Oh well we have FAA approval. Go look at the FAA approval, call the FAA. You're gonna find out Yeah. It has nothing to do with Hillake Airport. It has to do with over flying traffic. So We have very serious concerns. I'm on the board of directors of the operating uh governing board for Hittalake
Airport. Yesterday we passed a resolution in opposition to this. I have the original with me and copies for each of the commissioners, which I would like to at this point to introduce into the record and have you review that if with your permission. Okay. And then I'm going to go.
Unidentified speakerVoice AMove to receive and file. Okay, motion to receive and file. Second. Seconded.
Thank you.
Craig LaporteWith all due respect to Mr Conahae, Mr. He lived in St. Petersburg in 1969. I moved to Pasco County in 1972. There's a hell of a difference between St. Petersburg and Pasco County. When I bought in Hidalake Estates, I moved from Trinity for a very good reason. I don't think I have to tell you what it is. I got second tired of the traffic and the apartments are going up everywhere. Moved out here partly because this area is deemed residential one and it's rural. Now Ms.
Wilhite, who I have utmost respect for, is a former county attorney and for a land use planner, is the mouthpiece for this developer, and she's doing everything she can to promote this plan. But She keeps talking about the this will prevent urban sprawls. That that's part of the consideration.
Bourbon sprawl. Is when a a subdivision, a rural area, moves out of its area and continues to spread into areas where it didn't belong. The property that they're asking to change into a high density rural piece of property on a very small parcel of land is not urban sprawl. That is that is urban sprawl in itself, but the property is zone residential. It hasn't changed in 30 some odd years. And you know something else that was an interesting point is
the the land use plan was amended in 2010. The residential property did not change. The R One designations did not change. They changed the market use for places like um Water's Edge, River Ridge. But it did not change. And in 2010, you all know, and I know, and everybody in this room knows, that the Ridge Road expansion had been long planned for at least 10 or 12 years before that. So the county had every opportunity to change that zoning at
that time if it was thinking that the Ridge Road extension was changing the dynamics of this area. They didn't do it. The Moffitt Cancer Center is a non-starter. Yeah, we hope that they put a facility out at the bypass, but you know what? There's plenty of apartments in high density five mile no four miles south of that on 54 quarter. There's plenty of housing up on north of it by about five miles on State Road 52. There has been no demonstrated need for high intensity
housing on Ridge Row. Zero.
I'm gonna close with this.
I wish tunnels to towers had come over here and bought this piece of land. I don't think anybody would oppose three houses on an acre. For our veterans and our our fallen heroes. And it would still be consistent with the land use plan that we have.
Unidentified speakerYeah.
Craig LaporteTo change the land use plan now, to change this zoning now. is like coming into the middle of a football game and changing the rules on everybody that's been playing the game for now for thirty years in that area. I highly Respect you. But I request that you deny this application and that you deny it unanimously and send a message to this developer, who by the way, in my grant my humble
opinion, is not doing this as a service to Pasco County. This is the greed of a developer looking for the quick buy.
Unidentified speakerVoice ARight.
Craig LaporteOkay.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you, Mr. Laporte.
Is there anybody else out there that wants to speak?
Unidentified speakerOkay,
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay. Hearing none, Denise, I think you indicated you had some emails.
DeniseYes, Mr. Chair, I do have some items to be read into record, but I do want to mention before I start reading it that one of the items was from Ms. Ms. Cheryl Klein. Uh evangelista and she actually spoke at the kiosk so I will not be reading her Item because she read exactly what is on the sheet of paper at the kiosk.
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay.
DeniseOkay. First email first item is Bill Plattenberg, [address removed], regarding agenda item number C PAL 2015. The following information is to be read out loud. Spot zoning is illegal in Florida. Spot zoning, or as it is sometimes called, piecemeal zoning. Zoning may be regarded as the enemy of zoning. It runs in direct opposition to the purposes of zoning, namely, it is not according to a comprehensive plan, nor within the spirit and intent of the zoning ordinance that the same should
be enacted to serve the public health, safety, and general welfare of the community. It is in disregard of the rights of others similarly situated or the effect which spots zoning or piecemeal zoning has on surrounding property. In a context-sensitive manner in the district or upon the future orderly development of the municipality as a whole. Generally speaking, spot zoning or piecemeal zoning is a result of effort of effort on the part of some individual owner to benefit himself at the expense of the general public and without regard for a unified plan. The
effect the zoning classification may have on the value of a portion of land in a certain area is often as an important Element to be considered, but the fact that a piece of land would be worth more if used for some other purpose does not mean that the area is improperly zoned. An owner of vacant lots in the center of a large section devoted to single-family homes could not justify that he should be allowed to establish commercial office space and apartments upon such lots by showing the value for such business purposes would be more than what when used for a Purpose
like that of other property in the area. He would be urging spot zoning. Value can only become an element when the zoning regulation works a discrimination against the owner of property by denying him the right to a reasonable use of this property as compared with the use enjoyed by others of surrounding property. Next item is K Viola, [address removed]. Agenda item number C Pal 2015. Please read the following
out loud at the April 22nd, 2021 Platinum Commission meeting. The subject property of CPAL 2015 is located at the southwest corner of Ridge Road, a county-maintained 68-foot-wide four-lane paved arterial roadway. And Tanglewood Drive a county-maintained 20-foot-wide two-lane paved residential roadway with no sidewalk. The proposed comprehensive plan amendment must take into consideration how changing the volume to capacity ratio of Tanglewood Drive will impact the health and safety of the residents of this neighborhood and the bicycle riders and
walkers attending Cyprus Elementary School. An increased volume of traffic already exists on this residential roadway due to students who are. bus riders or car car riders and is compounded by people who use this roadway as a cut through between Decubelus and Ridge. Personally I would like to see this land developed for single family homes in keeping with the rural density residential district it is located in. Following item is Carrie Lynch, [address removed]. I
agenda item C PAL twenty fifteen. Please read the following out loud. According to objective Flu 1.1, Principles for Growth Management. The objective for growth management is to pursue a vision for the future growth and development of the county that both preserves and enhances the quality of its communities. This vision relies upon a solid foundation for future planning, which is reflected in its adopted adopted future land use map. The future land use map 2-15, specifically Sheet 10, Township 25 range. 16 East
shows a location of land parcel 25-25-16-0010-03400-0000 within a res one classification. The land parcel is surrounded by established rural density neighborhoods that conform to R1 zoning standards. The goal to enhance and preserve the quality of these communities can only be realized by adhering to the Res 1 classification and R1. R1 zoning standards that dictate development in a manner consistent with surrounding properties. The proposed amendment should not be recommended
because it is inconsistent with the comprehensive plan as reflected in future land use map. The future land use classification should remain Res One and the property should be developed for single family dwellings on individual lots. Next item is Paul Lynch, [address removed]. Agenda item C PAL 2015. Please read all of the following out loud. The comprehensive plan describes each land use category's intended purpose and character and defines allowable densities and intensities
of development. The applicant's proposed amendment to the comprehensive plan should not be permitted pursuant to conditions set for. Fourth in policy in policy future land use one point six point two, location of commercial development of the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan as it is located in at the intersection of one arterial road and one residential road. Policy states location shall be limited to areas adjacent to existing collector and arterial roadway intersections. The proposed use of ten thousand square feet of commercial office space and up to two hundred and thirty apartments is not consistent
with the character of the area As it is adjacent to Tanglewood East residential neighborhood and Highlands of Tanglewood East residential neighborhood. The proposed amendment is not supported by Policy Future Land Use 1.6.2 because the subject property is located at the southwest corner of Ridge Road and Tanglewood Drive, which are both existing collectors. The proposed amendment does not detract from or limit the any nearby TC Town Center or other commercially designated. However, it does not align with existing residential uses to
the north, south, east, and west of the subject property and adds strip commercial to the area as the subject site is adjacent to existing residential uses. This is the last one. Sally Laurenti, [address removed]. Agenda Item C PAL 2015. Please read the following out loud. Pasco County's comprehensive plan describes each land use category's intended purpose and character and defines allowable densities and intensities of development. Under Florida law, all comprehensive planet use
map. And all land use regulations and capital improvements must be consistent with that future land use map. The comprehensive plan of unincorporated Pasco County Future Land Use Map Township 25 Range 16 East Sheath 10 clearly indicates the future land use classification for parcel number 25-25-16-0010-03400-0000 is res one, rural residential density. Rural density residential. What is the motivation behind this proposed amendment? According to Florida law, all
land use regulations and capital improvements must be consistent with the existing future land use map. If the county's comprehensive plan can be amended to fulfill each landowner's wish, why have a comprehensive plan at all? I believe the petitioner can find a reasonable use for his land within the Land Development Code, Chapter 500, Zoning Standards, Section 514, Rural Density. Residential district. A residential use of this land that is consistent with the surrounding properties would be for the construction of single-family detached dwellings on individual lots.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you, Denise.
Um any other comment from up here or I guess Barbara, do you wanna go ahead and do your rebuttal now?
Sure. How much time do we have left? You
Denisehave eighteen minutes left.
Unidentified speakerVoice AEighteen?
Yep, eighteen minutes.
Barbara WilhiteOkay. Thank you. I'm gonna start with uh Steve Henry to talk about some of the traffic concerns and en fax That he uh is aware of?
Unidentified speakerVoice USure. Steve Henry, Lincoln Associates, um 5023 West Laurel, Tampa, 33607, and I have been sworn. Um first, the site plan that was shown, uh, we are not proposing access to Tanglewood Drive. So I want to make that clear, which affects the traffic. Uh we are all we're the access that we're proposing for this project. is a directional median opening to Ridge Road, which will have left in, right in, right out. We propose to have only emergency access to Tanglewood Drive. So
from a a traffic standpoint, the impact to Tanglewood would be insignificant given the fact that we do not have direct access to Tanglewood. In addition, as indicated, Ridge Road is currently under construction to be extended from Moon Lake Road to Suncoast Parkway with an interchange with the Suncoast Parkway, which will be open this year. So from that standpoint, you've got alternative ways to go south as opposed to going through a residential
neighborhood. You've got Moon Lake, you now have Ridge Road to Sun to the Suncoast Parkway, and then you've also got Little Road. We also, in conjunction with this plan amendment, we did a needs assessment to look at Ridge Road and look at the level of service of Ridge Road. And with this project in 2045 volumes, Ridge Road will operate at a.7 FAR, or excuse me, 0.7 BC ratio, which means it's operating at acceptable level of
service with the 2045 volume. Mm-hmm. So from that standpoint, we don't believe that the impact to Tanglewood Drive, as many of the residents have said, is going to be significant from this project, given that we won't have access, that we will have the directional median opening to Ridge Road. Uh that's concludes my uh remarks unless you've got any specific questions on
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay.
Okay. Thank you, Steve.
Barbara WilhiteThank you.
I think Jeremy um Couch wants to talk about uh some of the comments about utilities, uh drainage, and uh the the uh approvals that we received from the FAA.
Unidentified speakerVoice BGood evening, Planning Commission. Sorry this has run so late tonight. Um I need to be brief though. In 2020, our team had multiple meetings with Mike Carballa and multiple Pasco County Hustility staff to talk about water and wastewater capacity. At that time we did discuss different options for connection and they informed us that there were no capacity issues in the system. Also, contrary to what you heard from two of the citizens, the county is concerned about how they can provide waste of water options for these
big lots as their septics start to fail. So uh I I wanna say that contrary to what you heard from some of the cit citizens. Uh also our investigations tell us there are no issues with power supply to the property. Um many of the surrounding properties were constructed without adequate stormwater infrastructure. They were constructed at a time when uh infrastructure was not required like it is now. Um we wanna tell you and the neighbors that When approved, our project
will comply with County and Swift MUD requirements for stormwater treatment and attenuation. Um we did reach out to the FAA um through whatever process they had. Um there's a notice process that you can go through. Um Mr. LePointe, I believe his name was is correct. They did not um recognize this airport. Um however we did ask them to analyze our request and adjacent to it. So our report uh From the
FAA. says no direct contact, it does not mention their airport. But We did spend considerable time researching this issue. And feel there's no impacts. Thank you.
Unidentified speakerVoice AAll
Barbara Wilhiteright. Thank you, Jeremy.
Unidentified speakerVoice AThank you, Jeremy.
Barbara WilhiteSo I So I just want to kind of focus here. So you're sitting as the L PA And your decision is whether this comp plan amendment is consistent with the comprehensive plan. Which I have a lot of experience on. And I'm not a mouthpiece for a developer. I actually take um comp planning very seriously. Um been doing it for a very long time since I was at the county. M and What occurred in 2006 Comp Plan rewrite and the
2008 ULI and the 2010 comprehensive plan amendments that created these market areas and the urban service area was significant. the county made some significant decisions. They set four areas of the county aside for rural areas and designated them and protected them and found in the rural cor character area in Hudson that that would be the final form of development. They made a conscious decision. This was not done with no planning and it wasn't done without community outreach either. They made a conscious decision that this property
would be in the urban service area in the West Market area And so when you look at those and I went over those with you before West market areas. They want infill and redevelopment. that is an urban coastal and inland area. Those are the county's policies that they adopted.
So we're following those policies. And I I was remarking at Steve's presentation to you when he said that in twenty forty five with this project. The V C ratio will be point seven. I've never heard one a V C ratio so low. We're usually dealing with one point oh's, one point two, one point sixes. So what that tells me is that you've got an uh underutilization of an infrastructure. And that's why the county puts in place the policies, the
Board of County Commissioners puts in place the policies of where they want to see urban infill and redevelopment. And this is where they said they wanted it. This project is not this property is not within a neighborhood, not within the middle of a neighborhood. Mrs. Sell's property is not in the subdivision. Her property on Ridge Road is not part of the subdivision, it's not in the subdivision. With regard to the
Policy flu one point four point three and one point six point three Transitional land uses We have complied with that in the comprehensive plan, which is what you're looking at. In the sub- area policies, we have provided additional buffers. We've limited building height. We've limited adjacent uses to passive uses, strictly complied with everything in that table. There is no transition lot sizes because we don't have any lots on the adjacencies. We actually follow the the guideline that says limit adjacent uses
to passive uses. But we don't need to track transition lots because we don't have any lots. Um Cool. We've followed the comp plan to the T. And This is the and the infrastructure is there. Um this is where you your compliance says density. We have an MPG that's going to come back before you and that's really the opportunity to talk about drainage and utilities and those types of things. We limited our our access to tanglewood,
as you heard, to emergency access only. So you know we've done all the things for this Compoint Amendment. DAF has found it consistent with the comprehensive plan. Um I know they're available if you have any questions. But with that, you know, I'd ask that you make a recommendation that as the LPA that's consistent with the Comm Plan and recommend approval to the board.
Unidentified speakerVoice AAll right. Thank you, Barbara. Any other questions from up here?
I guess Barbara just two questions and honestly these might be for Jeremy, but um just for clarification, the the utilities to serve this property are the extensions being constructed by the developer or by the county?
For water and sewer.
Unidentified speakerVoice BSure. Chairman Marianoch water main directly in front of the property. Um that does have capacity for the project. The force main is at Moon Lake and Duke Dukubelus or at Ridge. So we have we have multiple options for connection. Both options have capacity and the developer has committed to make those extensions.
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay. And then my other question, uh I heard a couple of people mention something about Bass Lake and flooding that's been caused in Tanglewood east by Bass Lake. I guess do do you have a quick summary of what's going on there? Does this project affect that or not affect that?
Unidentified speakerVoice BWe actually believe this project will help that. Currently there's no treatment or attenuation in higher storm events from runoff leaving this site. The property drains in two directions. It drains north into the ridge road system, which does account for some of this runoff. and we're also going to um have large retention ponds on site. We believe that we're going to have a net improvement and a net benefit to the area with our retention.
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay, thank you.
Mm nothing else from up here? Anyone?
Okay. Um yeah, obviously this is a um I mean I I can understand and and we sat here for quite a long time listening to residents and complaints and I mean this is one of those um classic cases in areas where we have growth. Um I mean it's it's difficult situation. I mean you have a major road out front with Ridge Road. Yes, it's it's not fifty four, it's not fifty six, but i it's it's not a it's not a rural road either. Um you have a a major intersection here, you have um the need for
some type of transitional use in this area. Um I don't know. It it's a difficult one. I understand their their concerns and The fact that everything in this area is, you know One unit per acre. Um But that's uh It's difficult.
I said at some point I need to uh get a motion. From somebody.
Chris WilliamsI'll make the motion to deny this. Request.
Unidentified speakerVoice AOkay, a motion for denial by Mr. Hansel. Sorry second. All second. Uh seconded by Chris Williams. Any other discussion?
Chris WilliamsMy my biggest concern was in Again. don't really have all the facts is first of all, is that airport issue really bothers me a lot. I think Yeah.
І it's not as if an airplane can't fall from the sky. We know it has happened and it has caused damage, even death. But uh having airport that close to this particular project. Uh, really weighs on me the most. Um so that's uh uh the I think Miss Whitley did a fantastic job. In fact when I first saw the picture of this facility here, I thought that's beautiful. You know, I'm not in favor of the apartments, you know, I I
want to go on record about that too. But she did it this this was a look like a It truly looked like a resort. I thought this is fantastic for that part of area town but then This airport issue really. He's got it to me, so I'm not sure. Does it be a good one? That's where I stand on it.
Chris WilliamsSo that's And for me, I I mean, I agree, I think it looks great, but I I just struggle with the compatibility issue with with the I mean, if it was a denser area I'd be for it, but I mean yes, it's on the main road, but you got a state residential all around it.
Christopher PooleYeah, I agree with what Chris said. I I think, you know, compatibility issue is is definitely you know, I appreciate what uh Barb and her team have done with uh you know with the site plan and alike. I think they've done a great job with that, but it's just the fact that compatibility button up to E R one lots, it's it's just it's not a compatible use.
Unidentified speakerVoice AYeah. I I understand. I just the the the danger and I obviously have this with any undeveloped parcel. Um, you always have the danger of of what's coming next. I think a lot of thoughts been given to the apartment complex, the layout, um there was consum concessions that that were included in this amendment that uh Yeah. limited the height adjacent to the neighborhoods. Um you know, they they centralized and had all their four story units in the middle of their parcel. Um so they they did make a lot of concessions along the way. So it's just You just get to walking on a slippery slope,
so With uh that being said, um motion and a second. Uh all in favor? Hi. Opposed? Nay. Motion carries three to one.
All right, with that I will uh hit g hand the hand the gavel back.
GreyChairCan I vote now?
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Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment … Ridge Road – Transmittal
Of Proposedof the Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan AmendmentTo Theto the Future Land Use Map … and Sheet 20) ChangingFromfrom RES-1(Residential-1(Residential- 1 Du/Ga)Toto PD (Planned Development)Onon Approximately 20.35 AcresOfof Real Property LocatedAt Theat the IntersectionOfof Ridge RoadAndand Tanglewood Drive;Aa Text Amendment Creating Subarea … Road & Tanglewood Drive;And Aand a Map AmendmentTo Theto the Future Land Use Map … Ridge Road & TanglewoodDriveDrive.Approved minutes
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2mOakleyChairP sixty three.
StarkeyVice ChairItem P sixty three was published in the Tambay Times on April seventh, twenty twenty one.
OakleyChairItem P sixty-three is a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment in the name of C Pel twenty fifteen, Ridge Road. It's a transmittal of the large-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map. uh two dash fifteen and sheet twenty, changing from res one and P D on And approximately twenty point Changing from Res One to P D on approximately twenty point three five acres. This is requested uh a continuance to June twenty two Twenty one at one thirty P. M. here in Newport Ritchie.
Date certain.
OakleyChaira motion a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed like time. Motion pass 5-0. Let's go to um Oh that's all right.
MooreMr. Chairman Mariano. If you mind just for the um folks, there's a lot of folks in the audience. There's a lot of folks that are stand sitting outside that were here to listen to P sixty three. I just want to make sure they do know that has been continued to now June twenty second? Yes. Yeah.
So that item was continued to June twenty second. This is well.
OakleyChairAll right. No one need to
MooreSo it's P sixty three.
Yeah.
I just knew a lot of people were waiting.
Just discontinued.
Unidentified speakerVoice VOkay,
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(Regular) – CPAL20(15) Ridge Road – Transmittal Of Proposed Large-Scale(Continuance) –An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Comprehensive Plan; Providing For A Large- Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land UseMap (2-15 andMaps (Map 2-15 And Sheet 20) Changing FromRES-1Res-1 (Residential-1 Du/Ga) ToPDPd (Planned Development) On Approximately … Ridge Road And TanglewoodDrive;Drive.; Providing For AText Amendment Creating Subarea Policy FLU 7.1.57- Ridge Road & Tanglewood Drive;Repealer, Severability, AndA Map Amendment To The Future Land Use Map 2-9 Adding Subarea Map 2-9(57) Ridge Road & Tanglewood DriveAn Effective Date.Approved minutes
Approved to continue the item to the August 24, 2021 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in New Port Richey.
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Large-ScaleAn Ordinance Amending The Pasco County ComprehensivePlan Amendment (Regular) – CPAL20(15) Ridge Road – Transmittal Of ProposedPlan; Providing For A Large-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment … The Future Land UseMap (2-15 andMaps (Map 2-15 And Sheet20)10) Changing From RES-1 (Residential-1 … Located At The IntersectionOf Ridge Road And Tanglewood Drive; A Text Amendment Creating Subarea Policy FLU 7.1.57- Ridge Road & Tanglewood Drive; And A Map Amendment To The Future Land Use Map 2-9 Adding Subarea Map 2-9(57)of Ridge Road&and TanglewoodDriveDrive. (Public Hearings BCC-A, 8/24, NPR)Approved minutes
Approved to continue to the December 7, 2021 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in New Port Richey
1m1/2StarkeyVice ChairItem P eighty one was published in the Tampe Times on April seventh, twenty twenty one.
DeniseItem P eighty one is PDD twenty-one zero three two seven. Uh this is a comprehensive plan amendment. Uh there's also a request for continuance. The request for continuance is the December 7th, 2021. Uh Board of County Commissioners meeting at one thirty in Newport Ritchie.
OakleyChairMove to continue time certain. Got a motion second. Uh all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passed five zero. B A two.
1m2/2MooreA little while ago we can we m there was item give me one second here. The Ridge Road. It was continued. Uh that was P I think eight is that P eighty two? Is that correct? No. Or no, P eight P eighty one. one that was Tanglewood. Yes. Um is there an item another item coming up for Tanglewood that's being continued? So I think I have a sneaky suspicion that ninety five percent of the audience was here.
That was already continued. Um a little while ago on P e P eighty one, just so you know.
Yeah. So I'm just wanna let you guys know that that was continued, P eighty one was continued.
FitzpatrickIt was continued to December seventh at one thirty.
MooreYeah. So if you're only waiting for Tanglewood,
FitzpatrickYou're welcome to stay.
MooreWelcome to stay, but I just wanted to let you you know know.
You got it, guys. All right.
OakleyChairAnd it was advertised for that. Good call, Commissioner.
Okay, let's move on to um P eighty five.