PDD-21-7552

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1. 1Aug 26, 2021
   Planning CommissionP12Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

   Zoning Amendment (Continuance) (Regular) – SR40 LLC/Riverside Village … a R-2 Low Density Residential District to a to … Containing Approximately 12.03 Acres

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2. 2Sep 15, 2021
   Board of County CommissionersP105Public hearingContinued

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   Continued to the October 26, 2021 Board of County Commissioners meeting at 1:30 p.m. in New Port Richey.

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   Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

   10:46Item P one oh five was published in the Tampa Times on July twenty-first, twenty twenty-one and August fourth, twenty twenty one.

   Denise

   10:53PDE 217552 is uh S R forty LLC River Riverside Village Unit 5 for change in zoning from R2 low density residential to an MF1 Multiple Family Medium Density District. The request is to continue the item to the October 26th, 2021, Board of County Commissioners meeting at 130 in Newport Ritchie. Move to continue.

   Ron OakleyChair

   11:12Second. Got a motion and second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, like, sign, motion pass 5-0. P one oh six.

3. 3Sep 30, 2021
   Planning CommissionP6Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

   Zoning Amendment (Continuance) (Regular) – SR40 LLC/Riverside Village … a R-2 Low Density Residential District to a to … Multiple-Family Medium Density District – (55 Townhomes) - Southwest Pasco County – … Containing Approximately 12.03 Acres

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   Denise

   27:43Mr. Chairman Denise Hernandez Planning and Development here again. So um if we can if if it's okay with you if we can move on to item P six.

   Charles GreyChair

   27:54Yes, let's do that.

   Denise

   27:55Item P six says PD twenty one seven five five two. It's a zoning amendment, SR forty LLC, Riverside Village Unit 5. For a change in zoning from an R2 low density residential district to an MF1 medium density residential district for a total of 55 townhomes with deed restriction. Um this particular item after the uh the agenda was published, the applicant requested a continuance in writing to the October 28th, 2021 Planning Commission meeting at 1.30 p.m. in Newport Ritchie.

   28:26I know that there may be some folks here who may want to speak to the item, but I just wanted to um read that into record that there is a request for continuance on that item to October twenty eighth, twenty twenty one Planning Commission meeting at one thirty in Newport Ritchie.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   28:39Okay. So Mr. Chair, to be clear, they do have the right to speak today, um, but if they do, they will not be able to speak again when the item is continued to the new date. So I just wanted to alert.

   28:53They can speak today if they want to, but that would be your three minutes. When this comes back.

   Charles GreyChair

   29:00Okay, so is that clear to everyone or do you need further explanation? Is there anybody that would like to speak?

   29:08No, I'm sorry, that dis that does you know you'd be disqualified then.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   29:12He's joking.

   Charles GreyChair

   29:13I'm just kidding. Of course you can. Come on up. Yeah.

   Marcus Coe

   29:20Um

   Charles GreyChair

   29:21lighten things up a

   Marcus Coe

   29:22little bit. I went to golf high school, so you can't go that far. So did I. So did I. I went there too.

   29:32Um my question on that is If they bring up new evidence, so what we've came to prepared to speak on today's behalf, a lot of us took off work again to be here. whatever new evidence that he produces, because he didn't show up, he asked for the continuance. us as individuals who have to take off work to show up here to try to get across our uh points. If he brings up something new, how are we still not allowed to speak? Because he's not improving uh he's not producing any information different from

   30:02last time that he was supposed to. He's asked for the continuation so he can provide that.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   30:06Yeah you could choose to speak at the next meeting when you have that new information. You don't have to speak today. You can wait till

   Marcus Coe

   30:11we're

   30:11going to be able to do that.

   30:12Right. But my question is I have information that I wanted to bring up today. Now he's gonna produce new information. When he produces that new information, it should allow me, as long as I'm not repr repeating what I said.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   30:27There's nothing saying you have to speak today. You're

   Marcus Coe

   30:29choosing to speak today. Right. But it and it was Pop. We gotta when did we get notice that it was a continuance?

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   30:37I realize that it was after the agenda was was posted, which is why you technically have the right to speak today. But

   Marcus Coe

   30:43Right, but then I don't have the chance to speak next time if I can get off work. So once again, we're holding a meeting. I brought this up last time. We're holding a meeting in the middle of the day where some people aren't afforded and you brought up the Web WebEx, you can't necessarily tell your boss, hey, I've got to sit here and watch this WebEx until I have my possible turn turn to talk. I don't know when that's gonna be.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   31:06Yeah. I get that you should have had more notice from the applicant to the continuance and you should direct those comments to the applicant, not the other.

   31:18I mean you could object to the continuance And ask that it be heard today. And then But uh it it's up to the Planning Commission to decide whether they want to continue it or not.

   Marcus Coe

   31:28But uh am I wrong in such a

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   31:31are you objecting to the continuance?

   Marcus Coe

   31:33Well I'm asking a question.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   31:34Okay. If you want to speak to why the item should not be continued, that's fine and you can get speak again at the next meeting. But if you're speaking to the substance of the item, you get one shot at that.

   Marcus Coe

   31:45Even if he provides new information from

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   31:47Yes because you could wait to the next meeting when he's got new and waiting.

   Marcus Coe

   31:53That I wanted to talk to the validity of. Now he's gonna produce new information because what I wanna talk to is the validity of what he said. So that's him producing information after I got to speak. Then he's gonna produce new information again. On the next one. So that shouldn't change.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   32:09I understand that, but you can speak at the next meeting with whatever new information they provide. And my advice to you would be to wait because One of the th items that the Planning Commission asked for was a concept plan for this property. I don't think one's been delivered yet or shown. And so That would be new information that you may want to wait to see before you make your comments.

   Marcus Coe

   32:28That's one of the things I wanna talk about. But I had to take off way work again to come to do this and

   Charles GreyChair

   32:35Well let me just say that A lot of us are up here. We we took off work to be here too. And we do it e two times every month. So I appreciate what you're saying. Mm-hmm. But that's just the way it works. So we gotta have rules and regulations, we gotta follow 'em. It can't be chaos, it can't be Today it's this way and tomorrow it's a different way. So it was never but it was never posted. So on that day off.

   Chris Williams

   33:01Okay.

   Charles GreyChair

   33:02And we we uh we required it to be in writing and we c required it to be, you know, in advance and it was, so we have to you know have to accept the request. We don't have to approve it. But it's been accustomed to approve that we have to do it. That's the P five,

   Marcus Coe

   33:18correct? Yes. The request for the R.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   33:20The remedy would be if you're upset with the continuance. Okay. Planning Commission doesn't have to approve the continuance and they can demand that the item be heard today.

   Charles GreyChair

   33:28Okay.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   33:28That's your remedy.

   Charles GreyChair

   33:30But you're not gonna get all the information. Because he doesn't have the concept plan. Okay, thank you.

   Marcus Coe

   33:39Sorry, Marcus Co., [address removed].

   33:43Golf High Grads.

   Charles GreyChair

   33:49Cowbox.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   33:57I want to ask if anybody else wants to speak.

   Charles GreyChair

   33:58Anybody else? Does anybody else want to speak?

   34:05I see no one. Okay. So the um the uh motion I'm looking for is to continue continue this um His application until October twenty eighth, twenty nineteen uh twenty twenty one. In New Port Richey.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   34:22I'll make a motion to continue P five to ten twenty-eight. P six. Excuse me. P six. Sorry. Gotta go.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   34:30Before we hear the motion, can we just confirm the applicant doesn't want to say anything?

   Charles GreyChair

   34:35All right. Mr. Applicant, are you uh prepared to say anything? Or Mrs. Applicant.

   Barbara Wilhite

   34:42Barbara Will Hight, [address removed], New Portie, Florida.

   34:48Wouldn't that be nice? Um We are in a we request the continuance. We are working on the items that uh you requested further information on, and we look forward to being back here in the end of October. Thank you. Thank you.

   Charles GreyChair

   35:04Okay. I think we've cleared that now. So we have a motion.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   35:11There's I think there's already a motion on the floor, right?

   Charles GreyChair

   35:14No, there is a I

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   35:15I don't mind second it but I I do understand and I am Somewhat sympathetic to people that have to take off work, so If anything can be done to try to make sure that all the questions are answered and everything's ready for this item to be heard next time, I think that would be greatly appreciated by all.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   35:31Okay, so let me add, or if it can't, make sure it's noticed as a continuum. on the agenda. So I mean Tell us about the continuance well before so we can put it on the agenda as a continuance.

   Charles GreyChair

   35:44Okay, I think that was Barbara's fault.

   Chris Williams

   35:51I just want to go to Gold High School. No, it's this true. I just want a clarification on the date of October twenty eighth. Twenty eighth of October. Okay. Go things.

   Charles GreyChair

   36:05All right, so I think we have a motion or second to have we do. Any further discussion?

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   36:13Second.

   Charles GreyChair

   36:14Any further discussion? All in favor? Signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Like signed? All right. Motion carries.

   Michael Dadey

   36:29Okay.