PDD-23-0030

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1. 1Dec 8, 2022
   Planning CommissionPC8Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

   An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Small-Scale Comprehensive Plan; Plan Amendment (Consent) - CPAS22(20) Two Rivers 3 acres – Providing For A for a Small-Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The to the Future Land Use Map Maps (Map 2-15 And Sheet 23) From from RES-3 (Residential-3 Du/Ga) To to PD (Planned Development) On on 3 Acres Of Real Property Located Northeast Side Of of real property located northeast of Gall Boulevard Approximately approximately .7 Miles From miles from State Road 56 Intersection With intersection with Gall Boulevard To The Southwest Of The Parcel; And A Map Amendment To The to the southwest of the parcel ; and a map amendment to the Future Land Use Map 2-9 Modifying modifying Subarea Map 2-9(11) Two Rivers; And Providing For Additional Text Amendments As Necessary For Internal Consistency; Providing For A Repealer, Severability, And An Effective Date. Rivers.

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   Charles GreyChair

   39:29And PC eight. I think John was at you two.

   Jon Moody

   39:33No, David. David. That was me.

   Charles GreyChair

   39:34Oh no,

   Jon Moody

   39:35David. I can ask my question if I don't know who the staff person is. Okay. So this is really just a clarification question because The the write-up says that the MPD designates this parcel as residential parcel G. But then the write up also says that it's I think going to commercial. So I'm not really clear on whether Is it going to residential or commercial? 'Cause it just says P

   40:05D so I don't know what that means. And then is there gonna be if it's going to commercial, is there gonna be a corresponding amendment to the M P D? I can't tell from the way this is written out.

   Brian Junker

   40:18Yes, hi. Um Brian Junker here with the M. Mr Hobby

   Jon Moody

   40:21maybe it'll answer. He maybe it'll help you if he's right behind you, but if you can't answer

   Brian Junker

   40:25Yeah. Um to my understanding, um, it's going to plan development to allow for the commercial use.

   Charles GreyChair

   40:33Before we get too far, I didn't hear you, but maybe you gave you gave us your name and address.

   Brian Junker

   40:38Um I'm a employee county. My name is Brian Junker. I'm with the long range planning department.

   Charles GreyChair

   40:43Good, good. I'll have to make sure 'cause sometimes it's hard for them to understand what uh Who they're trying to translate. So go ahead.

   Brian Junker

   40:51Okay. So um this is um permitting to go into a plan amendment to allow for future commercial development on parcel G, but I also have the applicant here that she can also um talk more in depth into that if you wish to hear more details about it.

   Jon Moody

   41:10Yeah, it's really just to clarify I what's unclear to me is whether there's going to be a another amendment to the MPD to change it to commercial or not, because this just says there's no proposed changes to the existing entitlement, so that leads me to believe the MPD's not changing. Thank you. Which makes no sense to me because it's residential currently.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   41:32Clark Hobby, Hobby and Hobby PA one oh nine North Brussel Street, Tampa, Florida have been sworn. So David that this a two part deal. You're you're I think you're correct. We're not trying to create something that's inconsistent with the comp plan. The whole point is it's a small triangular piece on three oh one right by the jail, and we don't think it's a good residential partial, but it was a weird scenario in that It was included within the MPUD and labeled as a residential

   42:03partial because it had Res 3, but it's the only partial that the Legacy 2 Rivers owner didn't include within the PD future land use that's on the whole ranch. So we're taking it into the PD. and it's going to be labeled commercial on the MPUD map when the MPUD non substantial mod is done.

   Jon Moody

   42:29Okay, I think that's all that's missing from your write up is a statement that there will be

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   42:36There was something in there, but it it I I grant you it could have been a little bit clearer. There was one statement I thought was at the bottom of page one or on page two, but I uh yes, understood. There there's a companion Yeah, hold on. Yeah, I think that's we probably need to eliminate the last sentence at the bottom of the first paragraph under background.

   43:00Yeah. I think what here's what's confusing for everybody. When we take it into the P D, we're not increasing any of the entitlements that exist within the P D itself. So that's what I think Brian was trying to say. It just It's very confusing when you don't know all the ins and outs of the comments.

   Jon Moody

   43:23Right. That's what's missing.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   43:24We can do that.

   Jon Moody

   43:25Also, another comment. You don't look like Barbara Willoughby. I don't know.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   43:35That was the nature of my ex parte

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   43:37community. Yeah, that that's why John called that That's why John texted Barbara and she texted me this morning. So yes, I'm not sure.

   43:48I think that was on a legacy small scale would be my guess.

   Jon Moody

   43:53I want to correct that too.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   43:54Okay. We can do that. Okay. All right. Well let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks. That was the most important one, right?

   Jon Moody

   44:02Yes.

   44:04I I'm fine with EM, I just had the c other questions. Okay.

   Charles GreyChair

   44:09All right. Okay. So if there's no further clarification needed, then uh We have a motion.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   44:16Motion to approve. Second.

   Charles GreyChair

   44:19Motion is second. Any further discussion? All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Uh like a sign for nay. Motion carries.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   44:31Just for clarification, does Barbara get the invoice for that?

   Charles GreyChair

   44:35Both of them.

2. 2Jan 24, 2023
   Board of County CommissionersP39Public hearingAdopted

   Approved minutes

   Approved to adopt.

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   Jack MarianoChair

   9:16P thirty nine.

   Kathryn Starkey

   9:18Item P thirty n

   Jack MarianoChair

   9:19sorry.

   Kathryn Starkey

   9:20Item P thirty nine was published in the Tampay Times on November twenty-third, twenty twenty two.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   9:26Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Item P 39 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, providing for a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map Map 2-15 and Sheet 23 from Res 3, residential 3 dwelling units for gross acre, to PD, Plan Development, on three acres of real property located northeast side of Gall Boulevard, approximately 0.7 mile from State Road 56 intersection with Gall Boulevard to the southwest of the parcel and a map amendment to the future land use map two-9, modifying sub-area

   9:56map two-nine eleven, two rivers, and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency consistency, providing for repealer servability and an effective day. And this comes with a recommendation of approval.

   Jack MarianoChair

   10:09Okay. Any questions for staff? This is a public hearing. Madam Clerk, do we have anyone in person or on WebEx signed up for this item?

   Kathryn Starkey

   10:16No one is signed on signed up in person and there's no one on WebEx for this item.

   Jack MarianoChair

   10:20Move

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   10:20approval.

   Seth Weightman

   10:22Second. World couple.

   Kathryn Starkey

   10:26District one, Commissioner Oakley.

   Seth Weightman

   10:27Aye.

   Kathryn Starkey

   10:28District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford. Aye. District five, Chairman Mariano. Aye.