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1. 1Aug 22, 2023
   Board of County CommissionersP61Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

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   Jack MarianoChair

   1:13:12Aye. Motion passes five oh. Uh item P sixty one.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:13:17Advertised in the Tampa Bay Times on June 7, 2023, and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:13:25Item P sixty one is in ordinance amending the Pasco County comprehensive plan, providing for a small scale Covered upon amendment to the future land use map after dash fifteen and sheet three from res six to res twenty-four. Uh residential twenty-four dwelling units per gross acre at approximately nineteen point nine eight acres of real property located on the west side of Lake Shore Boulevard, and a text amendment creating sub-area policy flu seven one seven three Bayonet Gardens. And a map amendment to the future land use map two-nine, adding sub-area map two-nine seventy three Bayonet Gardens. And

   1:13:55providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for repeatal observerability and an effective date. And we have staff to make the presentation.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:14:08Good afternoon, Commissioner's Robert Irving, Planning and Development.

   1:14:14Sorry, my apologies there.

   1:14:17This is a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment from Res 6 to Res 24. The purpose is for a multifamily development with 50% of those proposed units being affordable on 19.98 acres. This is located on the west side of Lakeshore Boulevard. And this will have an accompanying sub-area, 7.1.73 Bayonet Gardens. And the inten the intention behind that sub area is to require that fifty per s that a minimum of fifty percent of the proposed units are affordable, meaning at or below a hundred and twenty

   1:14:48percent of the area median income. And if fifty percent of the proposed units are not Affordable, proposed to be affordable, then this will be subject to the REST 12 future land use designation, which is what the current zoning would allow. I also want to mention that This came with a recommendation of approval from the Planning Commission with a contingency. That the proposed sub-area be amended to include an enforcement mechanism, which we have coordinated with the County Attorney's Office and Community Development, and we have added that language to the sub-area. Which

   1:15:19will in essence require that for a th a minimum of a 30-year period, they are subject to enforcement mechanisms through the Community Development Department.

   1:15:29Here's the site location. This is located within the West Market area. Urban concentration area of Commission District Five. And here's a context map, kind of just providing some overall background as to where the site is. And I think it's important to note that 700 feet northeast of the subject site, there is two transit stops serviced by GoPasco.

   1:15:53And um I also want to add that the sub-area specific specifically has development standards that speak to walkability and connectivity to promote the utilization of these transit stops and also to allow for the local workforce to be able to utilize this development and access all the different um components of the retail business right to the north. Um I also called out there the 5A Road Trail, which currently with project management is going to be going to bidding by the end of this month. And after it gets its bid, it should be,

   1:16:23I believe it's 400 and some odd days that it'll be constructed. So that's just another component I wanted to mention because The uh residents of this subject site will be able to utilize that, and that's kind of why we have that emphasis emphasis in the development standards of the sub-area.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:16:40And m Mr. On this item here, this trail is this coming up a lot quicker than I was told just a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. I would like to sit and look at I would like to s sit down with staff, take a look at it, and see exactly what's where the road is going to go and what's going to be replaced, if anything is. But sorry.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:16:55It's just a can just uh if you want me, just it's just a continuation of that existing sidewalk there.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:17:04Okay. Sorry.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:17:07Um and here is just a a location and just to provide a little bit more background on the site itself. It is within an AE flood zone and within the coastal high hazard area of the county. Um there is a category two wetland and an archaeological site.

   1:17:23And here's the existing future land use which is Res six. Um one thing that I think is important to note that about a year ago in August of twenty twenty two, you can see directly to the north an amendment very similar to this to Res twenty-four was approved.

   1:17:38Here's the proposed future land use, which is Res twenty four.

   1:17:44And here's the existing zoning. Um, to provide a little background on the zoning history of this site, in 1978 this was rezoned from AC to PUD to allow for a multifamily development. Um and then it was again rezoned in 2006 to allow for a multifamily townhome development with the caveat that it was capped at 173 dwelling units. And I want to just note that the applicant has gone through a pre-application to rezone to MF3 but has not filed the application at this point.

   1:18:14The proposed amendment is consistent with the following comprehensive plan policies. And with that, I also want to note that this is not a Live Local Act project in the sense that this is a residential future land use and zoning in an area envisioned for higher density. development because this is within the West Market area and urban service area. And there is supporting infrastructure. There's two there's county utilities that the applicant will have to connect to. Um Another thing that I want to speak to is that the West Market area specifically speaks to the significant inventory of affordable housing. and

   1:18:44this will support that and help promote that vision of the Westmarket area. Um I think that's especially important considering that um in 2021 the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council conducted a study, the visual visualizing development strategies for US Highway 19 in Pasco County. And specifically this parcel in this area was noted as an activity node. And the major employer of this area being the HCA Bayonet Point Hospital, which is currently forecasted to expand to add about roughly 200 employees.

   1:19:14and this site will serve that surrounding workforce. Another important thing I think to note from that study is that of the employees who work in the Westmarket area, approximately 60 to 70 percent of the population is at low or moderate income levels, which will be able to utilize this development.

   1:19:32And this comes with the recommendation that you find the proposed amendment consistent with the comprehensive plan and adopt by roll call vote. I'm available if you have any questions.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:19:39Okay. I just I'll say that to the this area here, this has been tr trying to get something happening for a while. It's gonna take another shot with some extra uh impetus, which is good. And I think we've had some homeless issues out there, trash is out there in that road. Uh if we're gonna make some improvements as we look it forward, uh could be helpful for the area. Commission Weightman.

   Seth Weightman

   1:20:00Mr. Golson, the same thing. Issue we're looking into with the Other affordable housing.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:20:07Yeah I wasn't asked I was gonna ask the applicant that question.

   Seth Weightman

   1:20:13Well

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:20:14exciting afternoon. Yeah, so um I was gonna ask the the applicant the same question I asked the prior applicant, which is what is their intent as it relates to the property tax exemption under Live Local? But I was waiting for I don't think staff's gonna know the answer to that question. I was gonna ask the output. Is that what you were gonna ask? Okay. Pretty consistent. Okay.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:20:33Any other questions for staff? Okay. In the applicant?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:20:49Sean Smith, s uh development manager of McDowell Housing Partners. Representing the applicant.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:20:56So did you want to say anything before I asked my question?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:20:59Um no commissioner, go ahead.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:21:00I'm not a commissioner, I'm the county attorney, so I'll just put it in the right-of-way. My question is the same similar question to I asked the prior applicant, which is Are you intending to use the property tax exemption under Live Local?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:21:13Uh I mean as of right now, uh obviously what we've committed to is up to a hundred and twenty percent AMI. Um again traditionally We specialize in affordable housing similar to the prior applicant. However, uh if We were to uh incorporate some level of workforce housing, mixed income. We would be eligible. for uh the tax exemption Uh whether we would utilize it or not. I can't speak to because Again,

   1:21:43we're earlier in our phase than the previous uh developer. But I'm not gonna lie, we would be eligible.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:21:53So you If you were eligible you do intend to use it.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:21:56I I'm not saying that. I I I'm just saying we would be eligible.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:22:02Well I agree you would be eligible. That's why I'm asking the question whether you intend to use it. That's

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:22:07Well again uh uh at this point attorney I'm not Sure, we intend to develop up to a eighty to a hundred and twenty percent AMI.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:22:15Okay, let me phrase the question to you a different way. If you develop eighty to two hundred eighty to one hundred twenty percent of AMI Do you intend to use the property tax exemption?

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:22:25I don't know. I mean that's that's the answer. I mean obviously we would uh speak with The Council or planning and I mean w we would make that decision there.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:22:41Okay. Well the board can do with this whatever they want to, but it sounds like the applicant is not willing to make a similar commitment to what the prior applicant, which was that they would not invoke the property tax exemption. So It's a it's a policy decision for the board about whether you want to approve it, assuming they would invoke the property tax exemption.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:23:01Okay.

   1:23:03Ms. Waven.

   Seth Weightman

   1:23:05Unless you're willing to condition your property. To not take advantage of the property's tax exemption because your property and all the folks live there will require services in our county. I'm not willing to support your project at a forty percent discount. So

   1:23:22I'm my next step will make a motion to deny this, but I'm not gonna do that. So We're giving you a chance here. of what you're willing to do with the Live Local Act.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:23:35Yeah, I mean based on that uh condition, Commissioner, then uh I think that we would be willing to waive our tax exemption. uh in order to move our project down the road in this So

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:23:51to be clear you had you'd be adding it to the sub-area policies because you don't have the zoning before you. Unless the other one you have the zoning before you so you can you can modify the zoning conditions The zoning's not before you but this one does have a sub area policy, so you could add Language of the subway policy saying that the applicant

   1:24:13So this

   Seth Weightman

   1:24:14is so since this is the first time this has happened since Live Local Relying on you on how we Move forward. Because it would be kinda You kinda got two of the same product here and two different service areas. We kinda need to be consistent on what we do with them. And I also like to see consistency on their both both projects are paying the taxes to fund the services that that they're gonna need So I'm not willing to

   1:24:44move forward until we have something

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:24:45it sounds like he is willing to commit to agree to a suburb language in the suburb policy that says he will not invoke the property tax exemption under a low level tax motion. So we can incorporate that into a motion.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:25:06But one thing I do want to just make clear clear is the the reason that tax exemption was put in place is because When you commit units to the eighty percent and hundred and twenty percent AMI, you don't get tax credits. You c you don't get any funding for those units. So that is the benefit for affordable developers to then go up and offer those workforce housing units that do benefit slightly higher income individuals. Again, I'm more than fine to waive that. But

   1:25:37I just wanna make sure that we're all on the same page as to Why that tax exemption exists?

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:25:42Our our struggle is Commissioner Weightman brings out as far as the services go. Um we get time and time again We need the property tax to be able to pay for the sheriff for the EMS, etcetera. And all the other things we try to do. So if that means you gotta we direct you that way, I think we're all comfortable with that. We just need th that tax base coming in so that the people coming in here aren't throwing the burden on everybody else that's already here. Sure.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:26:05But but if you are gonna build some affordable units, come talk to us and maybe there's ways we can help. Sure.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:26:11Thank you. Appreciate it.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:26:12All right. So staff has got that. Very good. Okay. Any of the questions for the gentleman? Uh to get the public comment. Thank you, sir.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:26:23Thank you. Here's no one signed up to public comment.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:26:25I see one hand going up, so please come forward. Is there any anyone else after this lady to speak to this item, P sixty one?

   1:26:34Okay.

   Unidentified speakerVoice D

   1:26:39Hi, I'm Sarah Reap, Mackenzie Reap, and I live at [address removed]. I've lived there for approximately well since the early 90s. And um I attended the planning and development meeting where this was brought up the first time. I did speak and ask them about this company about Live Local. I also asked um about the Senate Bill 102 um had questions about would there be a 30 year or a fifteen year,

   1:27:09which is why It kind of got shuffled around. I asked about um buffers. I asked because we have a lake there and we're um There's a lot of wildlife and things like that and I wanted to check on that. Um I'm not real sure. Where this is going from what I just heard is this like kind of tabled or or is it going through? Um because I also asked about um

   1:27:38the traffic area because we've got the new three hundred thousand dollar home place that they just cleared all the land by the library. And I'm wondering um how that's going to um affect the traffic along with if they build as well. So I really just don't know where we're at with this and would like some um I guess clarification.

   1:28:06Because de uh Lakeshore and Dallas, that road is terrible. And even if they fix it for the development. It comes right out into the Lakeside Woodlands Drive, which is going to be directly across from the new housing. And the only light on 5A is at Clayton. So there's going to be a real traffic problem between where the hospital is and where the Clayton is by Beaconwood. So thank you very much.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:28:40And there's no other public comment from the audience? Anyone on WebEx?

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:28:44There is no one on WebX.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:28:46Okay. It's to the board. Um you know this area is very dense. Uh and then she says that road is in bad shape, so hopefully we're gonna get those road improvements. Uh we've had said uh some homeless issues out there as well. Uh it is a very dense piece of property. Uh that's coming in without w uh with paying its taxes, I'm definitely comfortable with it. And if he can get the extra funding and he's gonna go far then uh I think it could be a good dish addition to the area. Possible is right across the street.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:29:15Yeah, people who work at the hospital could could stay here. Uh move for approval.

   Seth Weightman

   1:29:21Commission Wait, but before how is that

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:29:24condition?

   Seth Weightman

   1:29:24With the condition of no

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:29:26additional submarine policy would be that the applicant will not Seek the affordable housing property tax exemption in section one ninety-six point nineteen seventy eight for the statute. So that's Commissioner Starkey's motion. Yep.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:29:39So motion and I want to make I want to get the gentleman a record while we have him on record enough. enough.

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:29:43He He already said he was agreement.

   Jack MarianoChair

   1:29:48the conditions. And there was a second. And there was a second? Second. Second. Okay.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:29:53District One, Commissioner Oakley.

   Ron OakleyVice Chair

   1:29:55Aye.

   Kathryn Starkey

   1:29:55District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford. Aye. District five, Chairman Mariano.