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1. 1Jan 9, 2024
   Board of County CommissionersP67Public hearingApproved

   Approved minutes

   Approved the Public Hearing Consent Agenda which included Agenda items P67, P68, P73, P74, P76, and P77 with Commissioner Bradford absent from the vote.

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   Starkey

   1:17:22Okay, P sixty seven was advertised in Tampa Bay Times November first, twenty twenty three. P

   Denise

   1:17:27sixty seven is PDD twenty-four seventy-five sixty. It's a zoning amendment. Boger two MPUD Master Planning and Development. Boger II LLC. It's for a rezoning from an AC agricultural district to an MPUD master planning and development district to allow for a maximum development of 136 single-family dwelling units on approximately 30.8 acres to consist of of single-family detached and townhomes. This comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your agenda packet from the Pasadena Hills Planning

   1:17:57and Policy Committee and the Planning and Development Department.

   OakleyChair

   1:18:00Okay. Is there anyone here to speak against this item?

   Denise

   1:18:03There is no one signed up.

   OakleyChair

   1:18:04No one signed up. No, I see no one to speak against it. Remains on consent. We move on to P68.

   Starkey

   1:18:13P sixty eight was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times November first, twenty twenty three. P68 is

   Denise

   1:18:18PD 247700. It's a zoning amendment in the name of Kiefer VOPH MPUD. Project VOPH, it's for rezoning from an AC agricultural district to an MPUD mass planning development district to allow for 200 single-family detached dwellings on approximately 122 acres. Comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your agenda packet from the Pasadena Hills Planning and Policy Committee. and the Planning and Development Department.

   OakleyChair

   1:18:47Okay, is anyone here to speak against this item?

   Starkey

   1:18:50No, sir. Well not signed up.

   OakleyChair

   1:18:52Nobody's signed up and nobody's on the way back.

   Starkey

   1:18:54Correct.

   OakleyChair

   1:18:55Okay. And no one in the audience that will remain on consent. We'll move on to P70.

   Starkey

   1:19:00P70 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times November 1st, 2023. P70

   Denise

   1:19:06is PDD 247709 for zoning amendment in the name of Hawes, the OPH MPUD, Hawes L C Junior Trust, and others. It's very rezoning from an AC agricultural district to an MPUD mass. Planning of development to allow for 523 dwellings on approximately 90 acres. This will consist of townhomes and multifamily apartments. There are ex parte communications with all the commissioners. Those have been provided to the clerk's office earlier this morning. And also there is

   1:19:36a request to add some additional language in the condition. We don't have the language right now for you, but that will be provided after today. that has to do with the applicant not seeking the tax exemption um in the LibLocal for this project.

   Starkey

   1:19:51I I do have questions on this one. Absolutely. Is you want it?

   OakleyChair

   1:19:54Is anyone

   Starkey

   1:19:55who's who's here representing that this one? Mr. Two, I believe. Um not sure if this is the one that I questioned the layout.

   OakleyChair

   1:20:05Is it P seventy or top of this

   Starkey

   1:20:07this one?

   1:20:10It's Saint Leo Commons. It's already been continued. Oh that one? It was

   OakleyChair

   1:20:15continuing.

   Starkey

   1:20:16Oh so what sorry. Oh that says P seventy. seventy.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:20:19Right. Oh that's Hawes.

   Starkey

   1:20:21So Hawes. And this is in V O P H? Okay, so I guess I'm gonna have a questi I don't know if I've seen this one. Have I seen this one?

   1:20:33Can you can you tell me uh if Can you describe the project to me please? I'm sorry. I know we're rushing through this, but I want to make sure we're doing

   OakleyChair

   1:20:41it. We'll wait on this. We'll pull this item off to the side, P70. And the

   Starkey

   1:20:48comments was that was continued.

   OakleyChair

   1:20:51We'll leave it there and we'll go to another consent item, P seventy one.

   Denise

   1:20:56P seventy one is gonna be pulled. There are some folks here to speak to the item.

   OakleyChair

   1:21:05This one now, so

   Starkey

   1:21:06P seventy three. So you're gonna pull P seventy one, there's people here to speak to it?

   OakleyChair

   1:21:11Oh pull both of those and

   Starkey

   1:21:13seventy and seventy-three.

   OakleyChair

   1:21:15Or seventy one. And

   Starkey

   1:21:16you're gonna move to seventy three.

   OakleyChair

   1:21:18Okay, move on to seventy P seventy three?

   Starkey

   1:21:21P seventy three was advertised in Tampa Bay Tom's October eighteenth, twenty twenty-three. P

   Denise

   1:21:26seventy three is PDD 247747. It's a zoning amendment in the name of Ply J. Keyes Aaron Cutoff. It's for a change in zoning from an I-2 Industrial Park, General Industrial Park District, to an I-1 Light Industrial Park District and an I-2 General Industrial Park District with a voluntarily agreed agreed upon uh deed restriction that reserves the use. For I1 and I2, that also discusses landscape buffers and sidewalks. For this item, there's ex parte that was uh with all the commissioners, um individually of

   1:21:56course, that was sent to the clerk's office earlier today. Uh comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission.

   OakleyChair

   1:22:06Okay, um Is anyone signed up?

   Starkey

   1:22:09There's no one signed

   OakleyChair

   1:22:09up. Okay, so there's is anyone here to speak against P73? Seeing no one, leave it on consent, move to P74.

   Starkey

   1:22:20P seventy four was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times November twenty second, twenty twenty three.

   Denise

   1:22:25B seventy four is P D D twenty four seventy seven five zero. It's a zoning amendment Irving and and Irving D and Melan Melody M. Delgado for a change in zoning from an AC agricultural district to an AR5 agricultural residential district. Comes here with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission.

   Starkey

   1:22:43There's no one signed up for this

   OakleyChair

   1:22:44item. No one signed up for it. Is anyone here to speak against this item? Seeing no one, uh it remains on consent, move to P75.

   Starkey

   1:22:54P 75 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times November 22nd, 2023.

   Denise

   1:22:59P75 is PD 247752. It's a zoning amendment, BMC 31722, SR52 LLC for a change in zoning from a C2 General Commercial District with a deed restriction to a C2 General Commercial District with an amended deed restriction. The amended deed restriction, voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction is to allow RBM boat storage and truck rental as ancillary to the allowed stealth storage on the part. property and also to preserve the uses for those uses that are consistent with the C two General Commercial District. Comes here with

   1:23:29a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission. There's no one signed up.

   OakleyChair

   1:23:35No one signed up. Okay. Uh is anyone in the audience to speak against this item?

   1:23:42Seeing no one, we'll move on to P76.

   Starkey

   1:23:46P76 was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times November 22nd, 2023.

   Denise

   1:23:50P76 is PDD 247753 zoning amendment, Carly Properties, LLC, and Scotty Crockett for a change in zoning from an AC Agricultural District, C One Neighborhood Commercial District, and an I-1 Light Industrial Park District to an I-1 Light Industrial Park District with a voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction that preserves the uses to those uses listed in the I-1 Light Industrial Park District. Comes to you with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission. There's

   Starkey

   1:24:17no one signed up for this item.

   OakleyChair

   1:24:20Anyone here to speak against uh P76? See seeing no one may leave leave it on consent and move to P uh

   Starkey

   1:24:30Can I I have a few questions on one I don't want to pull them off consent but I just want to ask this because I'm looking so fast which I don't think so first I want to ask on P seventy five That is on State Road fifty two. So that's all right, we're going fast. Uh uh Is that right? Is it it's on the south side of State Road fifty two? Does it require a sidewalk in front of it?

   1:24:57Because uh when I passed Murata it didn't have any sidewalks in front of it, so we have a mistake there. A a sidewalk or a trail. I mean, we're putting looks like the proposed route for the Orange Belt Trail is gonna be along some portions of The old State Road fifty two. So we should have them be putting it in if that's part of the route.

   Denise

   1:25:21I don't see

   Starkey

   1:25:22anything on

   Denise

   1:25:22here stating that there's gonna be a sidewalk installed. All it talks about is stub outs to the properties that are adjacent to uh the west.

   Starkey

   1:25:32I don't care what it is, if it's on State Road fifty two. But

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:25:35you can't stipulate a sidewalk but in a straight zoning category. It would have to be something that is required administratively and they'll take care of it. But it's not it's not

   Denise

   1:25:45a good idea. Oh oh so let me colleague is just telling me that it is required by the code to install a sidewalk. Okay, but that's already a code requirement.

   Starkey

   1:25:54We just did a press release on the proposed route for the Orange Belt Trail. Which is going up The proposed route right now is to go up Parts of Old 52. It could not be on this part. I just don't have it memorized. So someone tell me. Is this property on the proposed route for the Orange Belt that we just put out the press release last week.

   Denise

   1:26:20If someone can look up this information on GIS. Yeah,

   Mike Carballa

   1:26:23we'll we'll have to come back to you with an answer on that if that's okay. I mean I've got Nick here.

   Starkey

   1:26:28Okay. And then on the keys, um

   OakleyChair

   1:26:31Well this is State Road fifty two and not not County Road fifty two.

   Starkey

   1:26:35It is? So it's not the old County Road fifty two.

   1:26:43Yeah, so Um then my

   Denise

   1:26:46next

   Starkey

   1:26:47question

   Denise

   1:26:47So the the trail is going up Hartman Road which is north of this project. Yeah

   Starkey

   1:26:51somewhere it connects in the old fifty two fifty two or something not at the

   1:26:55end of the

   1:26:55or whatever we're calling it, state county road fifty two. So it's not anywhere near here. I gotcha. But I don't think would we want people around there to be able to access that trail?

   1:27:09I mean do we need a multi use path and not a sidewalk there? Maybe it's not the great big one, but do we need something different?

   1:27:20That's so that's a question on that one. And then I want to come back to the Keys concrete one. It's requires a sidewalk on the south side of fifty-two. at f um just west of forty one, but it doesn't say anything about a sidewalk on air and cutoff. And are we gonna require anything on Aaron cutout side in front of that property?

   Denise

   1:27:49So again being told by my colleague that the code already requires a sidewalk along c air and cutoff. Okay. But you called it out specifically until We called it out specifically because of the width and because there were questions as to where the trail was gonna go. So the applicant said, hey, irregardless of where the trail's gonna go, I'm gonna actually put a sidewalk so we actually wanted to commit to that Uh to n specifically to that sidewalk on fifty two in the in the voluntarily agreed apartment.

   Starkey

   1:28:14Because the multi use trail is on the other side. Right. On the north side. That's correct. But but Okay. Um Uh, Angeline did not put in, as of right now, a sidewalk along fifty the southern part of fifty two. And when I had a conversation with Secretary Gwynne, Um we're gonna talk about this again later. He said that The county agreed that all the sidewalks on 52 between Suncoast and 41 would be put in by the developers.

   1:28:46So we have to Be very careful. that we're doting our I's in the past N R T's Yeah. Who in the county agreed to that? We're trying

   Mike Carballa

   1:28:56to substantiate that statement right now.

   Starkey

   1:29:01Justin said that as well. We said I know it was dumb, but

   Mariano

   1:29:05that's do anyone here recall it? What? Do you recall it? I don't recall being asked that.

   Starkey

   1:29:11Well I wasn't in the conversation. That was with our engineering department.

   OakleyChair

   1:29:16We'll have to verify.

   Starkey

   1:29:20Sorry, but I I see what's going on and I I'm kinda going with secretary. Okay, um so

   Denise

   1:29:26I think we're good then. So this is all you

   1:29:28know

   1:29:28as you know, this is a Euclidean zoning, so it's all incorporated into the the voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction in the keys situation. So

   Starkey

   1:29:37is it possible we can instead of getting a five foot sidewalk we can get eight foot on the the the seventy five, I guess it was

   Unidentified speakerVoice B

   1:29:44seventy five?

   Starkey

   1:29:47Up to an eight foot.

   1:29:51W which it's a good idea. Which item are we speaking about now? The one next to Murata. Isn't that isn't does this say it's coming in next to Murata?

   Denise

   1:30:01This is P seventy five.

   Starkey

   1:30:04Yeah.

   Denise

   1:30:06I think the if you'd like to pull it from consent we could the applicant can come up and speak to that to that item. 'Cause the code will require sidewalk but it's not gonna require any. I know, but I'm just trying to get something

   Starkey

   1:30:17where two people can walk side by side. Supplementary. Two moms can push a stroke. Whatever.

   1:30:26Okay, we'll pull that one off then.

   Unidentified speakerVoice C

   1:30:27Okay.

   Denise

   1:30:28You wanna pull seventy-five off? Yeah. Okay. I thought they were not going to be able to do that So we're gonna walk it.

   OakleyChair

   1:30:34Okay. P76, did I say leave that on consent?

   1:30:40I already had it marked. So we move to uh P77.

   Starkey

   1:30:45All right. Peace, peace. Okay. Well did you already do P seventy six

   1:30:49and I made you go back? Back? Yes. Okay. Correct. P seventy seven is Tampa Bay Times November twenty second, twenty twenty three, and my affidavit is certified mailings and site postings.

   Denise

   1:30:59So on P77, this is the transmittal. So we're asking you to please take public comment and authorize transmittal to Department of Commerce and other reviewing agencies. It's PDD 240032, it's a comprehensive plan amendment, C Pap CPA 2302, Land O' Lakes 5241, providing for transmittal of a comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2-15 and sheet 12, changing from RO. Bar Retail Office Residential, COM Commercial and Res 3, Residential, 3 Dwelling Units per gross acre to PD

   1:31:29plan development on approximately 76.72 acres of real property located south of State Route 52, approximately 900 feet west of Land O' Lakes Boulevard, and a text amendment creating sub-area policy flu 7.1.76, Land O' Lakes 5241, and a map amendment to the future land use map 2-9. Adding sub-area map 2-976, Land O' Lakes 5241, and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for repealer, severability, and an effective date. This is going to

   1:31:59be a mixed-use project that consists of 130,000 square feet of commercial and 350 multifamily uses, which are multifamily 300 miles. multifamily and 50 town homes. This is gonna come to you further on as an MPUD on this on this item. And the adoption for this one is scheduled for March 12, 2024 at 1.30.

   Starkey

   1:32:25And I see that they are building their tr their sidewalk on fifty-two.

   1:32:33And see, the developer's supposed to be putting them in between Sun the Sun Coast and Forty One.

   OakleyChair

   1:32:42Mr. Chairman Yes, just a couple of sidewalks on fifty two and forty one for this project.

   Starkey

   1:32:55Oh I had a meeting

   Starkey

   1:32:55on this

   Starkey

   1:32:56one.

   OakleyChair

   1:32:56So that answers a quick question?

   Starkey

   1:32:59I think so. There's no one signed up for this item.

   OakleyChair

   1:33:02Everyone sign up for P77?

   Starkey

   1:33:04Yes, sir.

   OakleyChair

   1:33:05Uh is anyone to speak against P77? Seeing no one, I'm gonna ask for a motion for all the consent items P67, P68, P69.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:33:26No. P sixty seven, P sixty eight, you skip P six. No, no, I've got

   OakleyChair

   1:33:31those set aside. P seventy and P seventy one are

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:33:34set aside.

   OakleyChair

   1:33:35So it's got people

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:33:36you've already continued.

   1:33:40You just mentioned it's not on the consent agenda.

   OakleyChair

   1:33:44I got you.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:33:45All right.

   OakleyChair

   1:33:47So

   Starkey

   1:33:49I have that you pulled P seventy, seventy five. I

   OakleyChair

   1:33:51pulled P seventy and P P seventy one and what?

   Starkey

   1:33:55Seventy five.

   OakleyChair

   1:33:56B75, I thought we answered that one.

   1:34:02So we pulled it.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:34:03So if I can, it it remains on consent. It according to my notes is sixty-seven, sixty-eight

   Mary Mcknight

   1:34:12Hmm?

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:34:14Seventy three, seventy-four, seventy-five, seventy-six, and seventy-seven. They are that that is your consent agenda.

   Starkey

   1:34:28Um on on this last one. Can we pull sixty-seven? Can I ask a question on P seventy seven?

   Sun Coast

   1:34:34No, those are your P7. That is the

   Starkey

   1:34:36Oh

   Sun Coast

   1:34:36that's where I'm voting.

   Starkey

   1:34:37Um is it connecting to any other property around it or is it only accessed by fifty two?

   Denise

   1:34:43I saw something about Bullock. There are there are connections. If when you look at the MPUD, is gonna connect um in different locations.

   1:34:56You're a interconnects. Mr.

   Weightman

   1:34:58Chairman question. Again, four motions called. I saved my little local questions to the end. I assume everywhere, just to confirm on the record, that all our commercial industrial sites on here remote.

   Denise

   1:35:09Absolutely, yes. And then we did add that tax, you know, we're adding that one to pause.

   Weightman

   1:35:15I just like to hear it makes me feel more comfortable.

   OakleyChair

   1:35:19So what are my items again, Deb?

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:35:22Your cons your consent agenda is sixty-seven, sixty-eight. Okay.

   1:35:30Sixty nine. No. No. Seventy-three. Seventy-four. Seventy-five, seventy-six, seven seven. Seventy five was pulled. Seventy five was pulled? Oh that's a little bit. Yeah, seventy-five was pulled. Okay. Try this again. Sixty-seven. Sixty-seven? Sixty? Sixty-eight.

   1:35:56Seventy-three, seventy-four, seventy-six, and seventy-seven.

   1:36:03More approval of the remaining consent agenda.

   Planning and Development staff

   1:36:06Second.

   OakleyChair

   1:36:06All right, I got a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed low.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:36:12Those numbers were your consent agenda. Yes. Yeah. Okay.

   OakleyChair

   1:36:15Thank you. Okay. So motion pass 4-0. Um now we gotta go back and pick up you said 69, wasn't it?

   Starkey

   1:36:2570. You continued 69. You continued

   OakleyChair

   1:36:2769. Oh 69 continues. And

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:36:30you

   OakleyChair

   1:36:30continued 72. All right, go back to P70. Is anyone signed up for P70?

   Starkey

   1:36:37There is no one signed up.

   Starkey

   1:36:40Yeah, mow before the bad weather. They're telling me trees are down on the west side already.