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PDD-24-7668

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Heard once, at the Board of County Commissioners on Oct 10, 2023.

OutcomeApproved by the Board of County Commissioners on Oct 10, 2023
Approved the item per Staff’s recommendation by a roll call vote.

Official title

Zoning Amendment (Consent) – Abbey Crossings CC - MPUD Master Planned Unit Development – Jeffrey Hust and Margaret Hust – A Rezoning from an A-C Agricultural District to an MPUD Master Planned Unit Development District to Allow the Development of 1,000 Multi-Family Units and 800,000 Square-Feet of Light Industrial, 400,000 Square-Feet of office, and 400,000 Square-Feet of Commercial/Retail on 245.24 Acres

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    Board of County CommissionersP81Public hearingApproved
    Approved minutes

    Approved the item per Staff’s recommendation by a roll call vote.

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    Jack MarianoChair

    Aye. Motion passes. P eighty one.

    Kathryn Starkey

    PD one was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times on August 9, 2023.

    Denise

    PAD ONE is PDD twenty-four seven six

    six six six six six

    six eight. It's a zoning amendment in the name of Abbey Crossings Connected City, MPUD Master Plan Unit Development, Jeffrey Hust and Merrick Margaret Hust. It's for rezoning from AC Agricultural District to an MPUD Master Plan Unit Development District to allow the development of 1,000 multifamily units and 800,000 square feet of light industrial, 400,000 square feet of office, and 400,000. thousand square feet of commercial retail on approximately two hundred forty five point twenty four acres. comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions as

    including your agenda packet from the Planning Commission and the Planning and Development Department. There are ex parte communications on this item from Commissioner Weightman, Commissioner Oakley, Commissioner Mariano. And I do want to mention that there is your standard condition regarding the LIG Local Act, which is your condition number 60 on this MPUD.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Okay. Are there any is anyone in the oppos in opposition to this item? With it on consent?

    Seth Weightman

    Yeah we're

    Jack MarianoChair

    Commission Waybin?

    Seth Weightman

    Thank you. But we will believe this on J C.

    Multi.

    Well if meanings or distance for big three.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Would you like a full presentation and we can bring it back? Alright, so let's let's let's we'll just let's take this off consent, we'll bring it back and we'll address it after. Okay. All right, so P eighty eighty one is off consent.

    Stephanie Lefieu

    It's not on what's it?

    Kathryn Starkey

    Mm-hmm.

    Jack MarianoChair

    All right.

    11m2/2
    Jack MarianoChair

    So we're going to go back to item P eighty one. We'll do a presentation from staff first and then we'll appear at the mail.

    Denise

    Sure, that will be presented by Orlando Boras. Thank you.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Thank you.

    Orlando Borraz

    Good afternoon, this is Orlando Borraz with Burring Planning. I will be showing today, I mean presenting, PED twenty-four, seventy-six sixty eight, Abbey Crossing C C and PUD. This is a zoning amendment from C two, ER, and AC to an MPUD, allowing uh thousand hundred sorry, a thousand multifamily units, eight hundred thousand square feet of light industrial, eight hundred thousand square feet of office, and eight hundred thousand square feet of commercial slash retail. And it's located right now south of

    County Route 52 and the intersection of McHenry Road. As you can see this is going to be the site location for this property. This is going to be the location map showing exactly where it's located south of County Row 52. is going to be the context map as you can see.

    The green zone industries are going to be MPUD, C2, C3 and also light industries are going to the north. And this is going to be the efficient language as you can see. It's going to be EC which stands for Employment Center. You also have ROR and you're also going to see Res3 and mixed uses going to the north. The applicant is requesting the following variation from the code. The first one is going to be

    From the LDC five twenty from the LDC section five twenty two point nine on site parking, the applicant is requesting to reduce um from two point twenty five, which is going to be the standard by the uh LDC, to one point nine. Stuff is amenable with this uh variation being requested, uh because it's going to be uh above the eighty five percentile provided by the IT, uh which is going to be for transportation engineering and All that type of stuff. For 522.9 neighborhood parks. Um the applicant is requesting

    right now to reduce the um the minimum required for parkings. It's going to be now a minimum of 10% for sorry for for parks. And park and recreation acknowledges the space constraints on this subject property and therefore agrees on providing greater flexibility in the neighborhood park design for multifamily apartments. This is going to be excluding townhomes and also duplexes. The applicant will still have to provide at least 10% of the upland acreage for parks. And the last variation from the code

    is going to be from 805.6 restrictions on post-development wetlands and upland buffers within residential laws and non-residential parcels. This is going to be basically to let the applicant or the owner to keep and maintain the uh the open areas since there's not going to be an HOI or CDD.

    As you can see, this is going to be the master plan. And this comes with the recommendation of approval with conditions from PDD and the Planning Commission.

    Jack MarianoChair

    So to be clear, so there's no H A O no H O A, no C D D. Um on site parking. What w what what's the number going to?

    Orlando Borraz

    From 2.25, it's going to be now 1.9. This is going to also let the applicant have more space to have open spaces and it's also going to promote um alternative transportation methods, which is one of the intent of this overlook in Connecticut.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Uh I had questions. Mr. Stark.

    Um I am very curious about the park space.

    Orlando Borraz

    So we are basically giving the flexibility to the applicant to comply and meet the minimum requirements in Connected City to provide parts. Basically they can have more flexibility in terms of the design between the buildings.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Are we gonna consider an indoor billiards room apart?

    Orlando Borraz

    Sorry what?

    Kathryn Starkey

    Well I think in some multifamily places they we take some of the indoor space and consider it or a place where people gather that that can be used towards park space.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Alright, so uh if we're done with staff, I'll bring the applicant up. I

    Kathryn Starkey

    know

    so we'll wait. Commissioner Oakley, any staff questions?

    I just want to make

    Jack MarianoChair

    sure there's

    Kathryn Starkey

    our question.

    Jack MarianoChair

    I know, hang on. We'll hear from Clark. We're fine. All

    right.

    And Commissioner Weightman, Commissioner Bradford, you want to hear from staff or are we ready to go with the applicant?

    Kathryn Starkey

    Oh yeah, I I

    Seth Weightman

    did.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Commissioner

    Seth Weightman

    Weightman I'm I'm ready to I'm ready here with the hobby.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Okay. Mr. Hobbes

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can answer some of these questions. Uh first of all, with regard to the parks, we're not seeking that kind of relief, uh, Commissioner Starkey. I know that you and I have talked privately about uh I think your position is we need to create more active park areas, especially within multifamily complexes, and that's something right now I don't think the code really allows, so that's not relief. That we're seeking. All we're trying to say, and staff and the board have supported several times on multifamily apartment projects,

    that we should be focusing on the acreage of the overall multifamily partial instead of the unit count. And so that's you all have approved the same alt standard many, many times over the last few years. I would say also outside of the multi-family area that we're talking.

    Kathryn Starkey

    I thought we had a meeting, but when they didn't have any listed as ex parte, I thought, well, maybe I

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    we s we sent one sometimes. I don't know where it went. We will check by the turn of the

    yeah.

    Ken Morn was here with Brian Sykes that we spoke about and then potentially even doing condominiums on the site. But I think Commissioner Weightman had another issue that I wanted to address for the board's benefit. While the staff report references a thousand multifamily units, that is not what's gonna be built on this site. And it just I think that's important on this site that the board know how this works. The existing future land use on this site is Employment Center, and it only allows essentially

    multifamily meaning apartments or condominiums. That's all Employment Center has ever allowed for the residential portion. By opting into Connected City, we're following what Connected City calls multifamily, which includes townhouses and duplexes. So what our client, we're actually under contract right now, not with an apartment builder, but with a townhouse developer. So there'll be platted townhouses on there for sure. That's what we're under contract to do on the southern

    end of the site. But the oh, I don't want to miss the forest for the trees on this thing, because this is a major employment development that the county has wanted and staff has been. encouraging for you know, a couple of years with us now and even though staff really wanted this to happen quickly, it's taken us 16 months to get to the board and it's a eight hundred thousand square foot light industrial development on the frontage. All of the multifamily is all in the rear. Way

    off of the road, I think it's maybe three quarters of a mile off the road. We're contributing with Pasco Town Center to the construction of the first four lanes of McKendry for about a third of a mile and then we have other obligations to widen it later in the development. So there's a lot to like here. We're building two other vision roads and a lot of good things. But I think the Commissioner Weightman comment was he was concerned when you first read the staff report that it says a thousand multifamily units and he didn't want us to have a thousand apartments. I can assure you we want not

    have a thousand apartments.

    That's why I want to make sure there was park space for all those things.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Right, no we are completely understanding

    those stuff.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    It's a nomenclature issue in in connected city.

    Kathryn Starkey

    So something I I want to be careful of careful of is as we keep restricting everybody from no workforce housing, I think we need to distinguish from certain aspects of the Live Local app. Or whatever it's called versus um other types of workforce housing because if we're not careful the um the people who need to have these you know, the many of the people that will have these jobs won't be able to live there. Because

    we keep restricting uh w uh affordable housing. So I think we we need to be careful when we restrict it. I'm just wondering if we can restrict that any further. We don't

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    restrict that. If I might, 'cause I I think this is a critical distinction on a mixed use project. The reason why it's critical that you have it here is we're doing this as a mixed-use project, as an employment center would have been built from the 2006-7 Comprehensive Plan, meaning that we've got a substantial employment area. Some retail office that goes along with that and then s the high density housing. But you need that live local condition because without

    it some bad actor might come in and try to convert the employment that we want to even more residential and that we don't want.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Well and I didn't mean it on this project. I mean in general.

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    But you don't generally. What you generally the that condition is only is only put on commercial or industrial pro proje uh rezoning so as not to have them convert to multifamily. So it It doesn't restrict anybody's ability to do affordable housing in this county. It just

    You get what you you get.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    That's right.

    Anyway, I hope that answered Commissioner Weightman's concerns. Thank you.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Uh is it a public hearing? Is there anyone to speak to this item?

    Kathryn Starkey

    There was no one sign dash in the thing.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Anyone whether I don't help

    Kathryn Starkey

    make that no sir.

    Jack MarianoChair

    To the board. Move approval.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Second.

    Jack MarianoChair

    Roll call.

    Kathryn Starkey

    District one, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford.

    District five Chairman Mariano.