PDD-24-7745

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1. 1Nov 16, 2023
   GeneralPC7Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

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2. 2Jan 23, 2024
   Board of County CommissionersP46Public hearingApproved

   Zoning Amendment (Consent) – … Road 52 East and west West of Rhombus Court – Containing Approximately 3.69 Acres

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   Approved Staff’s recommendation.

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   Ron OakleyChair

   34:45Move to continue time certain. Uncertain. Uncertain. Uncertain. Uncertain. Second. And a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion pass 50. Uh move on to P forty six.

   Madam Clerk

   34:59P forty six, Tampa Bay Times, November first, twenty twenty three.

   Denise

   35:03P46 is PD247745. It's a zoning amendment, State Road 52 Industrial LLC, to change the zoning from an I-1 Light Industrial Park District and a C2 General Commercial District to a C2 General Commercial District with a voluntarily agreed upon deed restriction that prohibits certain uses on the C2 district portion, which are included include but are not limited to standalone car. washes vehicle sales self-storage facilities as included in your agenda packet under your finding

   35:33of fact uh number two a um also on this on this item I need to read a clarification into record um that has already been provided to the clerk's office in the uh in in the form of the resolution being corrected. Number a finding of fact number eight should say the subject site has a future land use classification of comm commercial. Because that was based on a modification that was made by the Board of County Commissioners. Additionally, the comprehensive plan amendment number should

   36:03be CPASS 2305, not 2205. This comes to a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department and the Planning Commission who heard the item on November 16th of 23.

   Ron OakleyChair

   36:15Okay. Is anyone here to speak against this item?

   Denise

   36:19I

   Kathryn Starkey

   36:19might have some questions.

   Ron OakleyChair

   36:24Okay, we'll pull that item off. Off consent and then we'll go on to uh P forty seven.

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   Ron OakleyChair

   37:35Forty-six. You'd already give us all that. There was a question on this item?

   Kathryn Starkey

   37:41Yeah. Um is the applicant here? She

   Ron OakleyChair

   37:44the

   Gavin Covey

   37:44applicant is here?

   Kathryn Starkey

   37:46Oh, Oh, it's parking. I don't remember anyone talking to me about this before. First, uh, can someone explain what's going on here? And have did I did we meet on this one? Is this the one that's next to the Sunka the

   Jack Mariano

   38:02Angeline?

   Kathryn Starkey

   38:04Who who was the who was this? Who?

   Jack Mariano

   38:08Angeline.

   Kathryn Starkey

   38:10This isn't Angeline?

   Jack Mariano

   38:12No, it's across from An Rawl Street from Angeline.

   Kathryn Starkey

   38:15I don't recall ever meeting on this one. I'm sorry. So

   Kathryn Starkey

   38:18can you describe this? It's a it's a boat storage and a self-storage? No, those are all the things it can't be. Oh, okay, yeah. So include

   Barbara Wilhite

   38:27all those things. I was like wait a

   38:28minute.

   38:29Included all your favorites to or non-favorites, as the case may be. Um we also kind of did something interesting. We took the industrial in the back. Because it's owned by uh REPA, the same the same group. We took the industrial in the back and we put a deed restriction on that that doesn't allow us to live local, even though that's nothing to do with this rezoning. And we also restricted any retail off of that industrial, even though your code allows 15%. So we all not only did we take this one when we went to COM, it's already COM, it's already commercial land use. We're just changing the zoning to C2,

   38:59but we looked at it as a property as a whole, because it now has COM and IL. And we did some things that we thought you'd be favorable with, which is one, we restricted out some of the commercial uses that aren't the county's favorites th these days, and we took the live local restriction and put it on the the commercial as well as our industrial in the back, which isn't subject to these amendments. And we took out the retail off of the ability to do fifteen percent retail off the industrial because that's allowed by land use. So we tried to do a little bit more than just uh Just

   39:30the commercial zoning. These are just out parcels right on 52 at Sun Lake Extension. And you've already changed the land use to commercial. So that's kind of the rest of the story.

   Kathryn Starkey

   39:38So there's two there's two outparcels at Sun Lake and 52? On the north side. This property's on the north side. Um And they're that's what we're creating as two commercial outparcils. Well they face Sun Lake, um Or will they

   Barbara Wilhite

   39:54face fifty two? I know, but are they

   Kathryn Starkey

   39:57gonna

   Barbara Wilhite

   39:57be

   Kathryn Starkey

   39:57in I don't know where Terry is?

   Barbara Wilhite

   39:59They're gonna face 52. We have our Rumbus Court is our north south, but the commercial parcels will face fifty two.

   Kathryn Starkey

   40:08Well that that that is one of my questions too. Is Sunlock Sun Lake Boulevard dying at fifty two? It doesn't continue to go on. Why are we not planning for it to go on?

   40:19What's the grid plan for that area?

   Barbara Wilhite

   40:21Rumbus court's already there, so the that property's already all developed, masqueraded. Rumbus court exists today as a private road. Well that doesn't mean

   Kathryn Starkey

   40:30that We shouldn't have to do that.

   Mike Carballa

   40:34I mean that would be part of a long range transportation plan. I mean I can't speak to that uh at this moment as to why it doesn't, but I mean the LRTP spells out what our transportation needs are. And if something like Boulevard is to terminate at 52, I don't know, Brad or

   Kathryn Starkey

   40:48But did anyone contemplate that maybe it should keep going? I mean we make I've seen where roads stopped and they should have kept going. And I I'm just curious. Sorry, Barbara's I just want to ask the question if anyone asks the question.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   41:02I don't know the area that well. Um w without too much detail here. I would have to go back and do some research for details. But my understanding is that there are some uh potential connections with the Sun Coast to the north that favor a different road going north there.

   Kathryn Starkey

   41:16What road is the

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   41:16Bitcoin Road. What road would that be? One that is to the

   Kathryn Starkey

   41:24Not a current road. I mean, because we already know that one's already jammed. What's the next road that's gonna help relieve everybody?

   Ron OakleyChair

   41:31I don't know if there's another one in that space.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   41:35Well we yeah, there's there's a jog on this one a little bit. So my my understanding is that uh the other one posed the the better alignment for the vision road to get there and also receive potential traffic from the Sun Coast.

   Kathryn Starkey

   41:48So Okay, so it's not Shady Hills, there's a new road coming? Yeah,

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   41:51it's

   Kathryn Starkey

   41:51it's

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   41:52the new the new one.

   Kathryn Starkey

   41:53Does anyone know what that is?

   Mike Carballa

   41:55We can get back to the Commissioner on that. That's a long-range transportation planning. I don't know if I have any long-range transportation planners here to answer.

   Jack Mariano

   42:04Mr. Chairman Mariano. Uh I hadn't I hadn't looked at what was going on to the north here. I know there's wetlands above, but I'm not sure if it directly affects this or not. But what's out there right now His A couple of nice buildings that are

   42:19At least fifteen years someone's been trying to do something with it. And th these and and they've come in, they built a couple of nice looking buildings that go right across it to go I don't know if they can make the connection through anymore anyway. I mean this is just for the front parcels that's trying to straighten out. It's a it's a good industrial park that actually fits and uh they've done a good job to I think build a good looking structure as you come in.

   Ron OakleyChair

   42:39Okay, Brad, do they have a better answers there? Uh I got great

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   42:43answers. Yeah, uh And Grove maybe it's it's road A that comes road A that comes out of the Project Arthur development, that that uh business park piece there that's right at the corner, uh that is going to go north and merge into Shady Hills. Okay. That was that was the intended route after the studies.

   Kathryn Starkey

   43:04There's another road coming out of out of

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   43:07Angeline?

   Kathryn Starkey

   43:17So the one that's owned by Jennifer Bexley?

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   43:19Yes. By the Backsley family. Correct.

   Kathryn Starkey

   43:22And that's gonna connect to Shady Hills.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   43:24That's gonna connect up to Shady Hills and create that parallel.

   Kathryn Starkey

   43:26So there is no north-south road between Shady Hills and Forty One that we consider We're not considering another route between those two.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   43:36Uh, I would have to go back and see if there was something further farther to the east, but I believe it's Sun Lake and then there's a short jog on fifty two. Um Don't get you over to Shady

   Ron OakleyChair

   43:46Hills. Just get those answers for Commissioner Starkey and make sure she understands that.

   Kathryn Starkey

   43:55But it could have connected to Valencia potentially one day.

   44:00Okay. I just think we should be always working on a grid.

   Ron OakleyChair

   44:06All right, so we got a motion and a second.

   Kathryn Starkey

   44:09We did?

   Ron OakleyChair

   44:10Yeah, we did this when we pulled it off, right? No, no. Okay.

   Kathryn Starkey

   44:14We have to take public comment too, I think.

   Ron OakleyChair

   44:16Do we have any public comment on this item? See and none, move approval. Got a motion? Second. One second. All those in favor say aye.

   Kathryn Starkey

   44:26Aye.

   Ron OakleyChair

   44:26Aye. Motion passed five zero. Move on to I think it's forty nine P forty nine?