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1. 1Nov 21, 2024
   Planning CommissionPC6Consent agendaApproved

   An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Comprehensive Plan; Plan Amendment (Consent) - CPAS24(03) Lake Park CPA - Providing For A Small-Scale for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The to the Future Land Use Map (Map Maps (MAP 2-15 And and Sheet 3) From No. 03) Changing from COM (Commercial) To (COMMERCIAL) to RES-6 (Residential (RESIDENTIAL 6 – Du/Ga On Du/Ga) on Approximately 2.57 Acres Of of Real Property Located At The Corner Of The at the Northwest Corner of the Intersection Of of Hudson Ave and Hicks Road; And Providing For Additional Text Amendments As Necessary For Internal Consistency; Providing For A Repealer, Severability, And An Effective Date. Road.

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   Approved the item per Staff’s recommendation.

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   Charles GreyChair

   20:05Okay. So mm so we pulled uh

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   20:07PC six. So Mr. Chairman I don't necessarily need a presentation on it. I just I'd send staff some questions. Okay.

   20:18Um And the first of them relates to the discussion about the trail interconnects To the park. Which is I guess item three on page five of the agenda. Um A statement there's a statement there that there's the applicant's proposing multiple connections to the park. But then the MP when I read the M P D it doesn't necessarily require those connections so if there's a sort of an internal conflict between the two. So The

   20:49staff could address that.

   David Engel

   20:51Right, thank you. David Engel, I'm the Planning and Economic Development Director for Pasco County. Relative to the question about the trail interconnection, a lack of consistency between the Com Plan amendment and the actual MPUD. Uh we have requested to have an interconnection with the neighborhood park that it is adjacent to this property. Uh at first uh parks has indicated that they didn't want to pursue an interconnection. They had some issues with it. But we've had some dynamic discussions with the Parks and

   21:21Recreation Um Department uh at and uh Commissioner Mariano was engaged with us and parks is willing to allow and entertain an interconnection. uh into the neighborhood park. So it's our um proposal to have the LPA sign off on this project today, but before it gets to the board um on twelve on one twenty eight at the board's uh January meeting here in New Port Richey, we will have revised and created that interconnection.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   21:51Okay. So What I'm hearing you say, David, is that you'll have to amend A P. nine, the M P D to The to make the interconnect more Mandatory, is that what I'm hearing? Yes. Okay. The bottom line is the compliant amendment is correct, then that there will be in fact connections. Yes, sir. But the MPD will have to be modified to reflect that. It will. Okay, is the applicant okay with this?

   Barbara Wilhite

   22:19Yeah.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   22:20Because the applicant's gone back and forth unfortunate. I feel bad for Barbara on this one because she's been whipsawed on this thing.

   Barbara Wilhite

   22:26Yes, Barbara Will Hyde, [address removed]. It's very easy because I have the set of documents that show the connections. There's two of them in all the conditions that go with it. And I have a set of documents that you see today that don't. Pursuant to a meeting that occurred this morning with Commissioner Mariano and uh Keith Wiley from Natural Resources and Parks, Mr. Ingle, myself, the client that's here, we're moving back into the set of documents that have the connections. Um that's the direction we're going. I have to add a little bit of

   22:56language, talk about gating, because it's important to the uh Parks Department that we actually have a gate so that um comments from the fut comments in the future um about people coming from the park into the neighborhood and the ne and the neighborhood's upset about that. So we're working through some of that language, but we're gonna go back and to where we were um a few weeks ago with the documents that even you looked at and the language you looked at regarding the connections and the and the offsite connection to uh their sidewalk within the veterans park to our

   23:27north.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   23:28So I guess on that issue you're look so when we get to AP nine You're looking for recommendation that we approve it with that modification We just talked about related to the interconnect to the park.

   Barbara Wilhite

   23:40Yes, please. We there is no meeting um in dis in December uh in Newport Ritchie. And so we needed to make this meeting so we could do New Port Richey don't go to the board until it's back in Newport Ritchie and they're not back in Newport Ritchie until the twenty-eighth of January. So we have time to get all the language acceptable to everybody. Okay. Thank you.

   David Engel

   24:03And when when Barbara refers to a gate, it'll be a fob controlled gate so only the residents can get ingress and egress to and from. So the general public can meander through their neighborhood. They have to use the county sidewalk system.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   24:15Okay.

   David Engel

   24:16Good near.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   24:18Okay, so then my other question related to the analysis, the comp plant analysis under one point eight point seven. And my question relates to I think it's a potential conflict between staff's analysis and some statements that were made in the sheriff's comments. Related to kind of the tax generation analysis of these

   24:44Um I'll let David Engel kind of weigh in on this, but I I think the memo I'll let David Engel speak first and then I'll give you my thoughts.

   David Engel

   24:53Well well thank you, Mr. Goldstein. So uh flu policy one point eight point seven is a holistic statement and a goal. to look at the county at large and try to create more revenue producing than revenue consuming development. And we do that all the time. The question arose over a uh piece of property that's in included in this parcel. It's a commercial zone property at the moment. We're proposing to uh and and asking the board to allow us to integrate that with the residential project

   25:23before you. The reason is is that the area is overentitled right now for CT commercial. We have a lot of existing commercial in that Hicks Road, um Hudson Avenue intersection. And because of the traffic congestion and uh unfortunately generating traffic that would cause uh a lot of road improvements. We've uh we agree with the applicant in this case. So uh just from the standpoint of the big picture, uh my office uh had uh contracted Tampa Bay Regional

   25:53Planning Council to produce a study for the Board of County Commissioners about two years ago because we're underentitled for industrial in the in the county and overentitled for commercial and residential. So we've embraced that, we've been working with that as a a policy. uh template and now that we're doing renewing the Com plan and rewriting it now, we're gonna produce a lot more uh revenue generating development in the county. So that That's that's why we we're agreeable to eliminating the C two and

   26:24uh we are working forward to creating a more revenue-centric plan for the county.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   26:28So David I I think The reason I brought this up is because the way this is worded in the memo, the comparison is to the vacant land. And I'm not sure that's the right comparison to be making on a plan amendment, 'cause if you did that, any plan amendment would show more tax generation To me the comparison should be the existing flu Now if your argument is that that com under the existing flu will is unlikely to develop because of the oversaturation. And never

   26:59therefore will never generate the tax revenue that was assumed that as a reasonable argument But that's not what the agenda memo says.

   David Engel

   27:06Well that that's that's correct. The agenda memo did not address that. But from my experience and understanding of this area, that property's been sitting vacant for years. And um and it could have been commercially developed with the other parcels in and around that neighborhood. So the

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   27:19question is though whether that would be developed after that neighborhood exists, because there may be some more demand for commercial with the introduction of those Extra residential units.

   David Engel

   27:28Well a at originally and it was approved and the approvals I think uh good till two thousand twenty-seven. uh for three hundred and thirty townhouses. Uh but because of changes of market and preference by the district commissioner, we're doing fifty five foot wide single family homes. So we're actually reducing the intensity from 330 townhouses to a hundred single family detached homes. So um and there is plenty of commercial there. The biggest issue was uh access to the

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   27:59question What you're telling me verbally. You're telling me verbally The the market's oversaturated for commercial in this area and that by concentrating the commercial at Little Road you may actually have more tax generation at Little Road because you're concentrating the commercial at That's how I'm reading. between the lines of what you're telling me Verbally. My only point is that your analysis in the memo doesn't say any of that. Well you are correct.

   28:30There's a statement by the Sheriff's Office later that implies the opposite. So that's why I'm I'm Want to get this reconciled.

   David Engel

   28:38Well I and I appreciate you doing that because, you know, frankly, I just discovered all this stuff this morning. I don't read every every c condition of approval or agenda document to that detail. But um you're right and we will clean it up. Okay.

   28:57Those are all those were really all my questions. Thank you. Any other questions? No. Thanks. Thank you, David. Mm-hmm.

   Charles GreyChair

   29:09Okay.

   29:13So

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   29:13we still have to um

   29:18a recommendation on P C six. Right, and sounds like Mr. Engel's got the message on how to fix the agenda memo if you want to So

   Charles GreyChair

   29:25we should make motions on PC six and nine.

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   29:28Well I would do them separately, do P six P C six first. Yeah.

   29:34All right. Do we know your motion to approve? So moved. Well let me back up. I'm sorry. Barbara did you want to say anything about PC six? Okay.

   Charles GreyChair

   29:45Okay. We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion of the motion? All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Most like sign. Motion carries.

   29:57PC nine, please, do we have a motion?

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   30:00So moved? To be clear, that's you're moving approval with the amended condition related to The trail interconnects to the portal. Correct. Okay, sir. So be negotiated by staff and the applicant after After this meeting?

   Christopher Poole

   30:15Correct. What David said.

   Charles GreyChair

   30:17I'll

   Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

   30:18still

   Charles GreyChair

   30:18second that. And it's still seconded, yeah. Okay, we have a motion and a second further discussion. Not all in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye.

   30:30Okay, motion carries.

   30:36Okay, where does that leave us? Roberto.

2. 2Jan 28, 2025
   Board of County CommissionersP35Public hearingAdopted

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   Approved to adopt.

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   Kathryn StarkeyChair

   9:40Okay, P Thirty. So P thirty five.

   Kathryn StarkeyChair

   9:46We have proof of publication of the hearing of this matter in the Tampa Bay Times November sixth, twenty twenty four, and supplemented by an affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.

   Ron Oakley

   9:56Item P 35 is PDE 250046. This is an ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, providing for a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map Map 2-15 in Sheet 3, from COM commercial to Res 6, residential 6 dwelling units per gross acre, and approximately 2.57 acres of real property located at the corner. At the northwest corner of the intersection of Hudson Avenue and Hicks Road and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency provider for repealer, serverability, and effective

   10:27date. Uh this comes to you with a recommendation to approve the proposed comprehensive plan amendment and adopt the ordinance by roll call vote. We have a presentation if so desired.

   Kathryn StarkeyChair

   10:35Okay, um

   10:38Any discussion? Um is there anyone here who wishes to speak to this item?

   Kathryn StarkeyChair

   10:44No one has signed up in advance. Move approval. Second.

   Kathryn StarkeyChair

   10:48Roll call vote.

   Kathryn StarkeyChair

   10:50District One, Commissioner Oakley. Aye. District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District four, Commissioner Yeager.

   Kathryn StarkeyChair

   10:55Aye.

   Kathryn StarkeyChair

   10:55District five, Commissioner Mariano. Aye. District three, Chair Starkey.

   Kathryn StarkeyChair

   10:59Aye. P thirty six.