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1. 1Mar 20, 2025
   Planning CommissionPC14Consent agendaNo disposition in the minutes

   Zoning Amendment (Consent) – (Consent)- Sun Coast Village MPUD – MPUD– Hlavac Family Trust – Trust– Rezoning Request from AC … in Northwest Pasco County

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2. 2Apr 22, 2025
   Board of County CommissionersP62Public hearingApproved

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   Approved Staff’s recommendation with the new proposed COA prior to the issuance of the first certificate of occupancy within the project, developer shall pay the County to the sum of $50,000.00 which may be used by the County towards sidewalk improvements on Shady Hills Road, the payment shall not be mobility fee creditable, and the developer shall not be required to construct a sidewalk path alon

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   StarkeyChair

   1:27:58Julian background? I do not think so. Okay.

   Planning and Development staff

   1:28:03Good afternoon. William Vermillion Planning Development Economic Growth.

   1:28:11This is item PD twenty-five seventy-eight twenty, the Suncoast Village MPUD, the rezoning request from AC Agricultural to MPD Master Plan Unit Development. for the maximum development of 144 platted townhomes, the associated infrastructure on 19 acres.

   1:28:29It is just south of County Line Road. two miles to the west of the Sun Coast Parkway. Here's the rough location map on County Line Road.

   1:28:43the arrow showing both of these parcels.

   1:28:50The current zoning map reflecting AC agricultural as well as the future land use. Here is a contextual map showing this MPUD subject site in relation to the overall area. The North Ridge M Pud just to the south, roughly seven hundred Residential dwelling units as well as commercial along the frontage of County Line Road. There are some industrial pieces as well as the Pasco mine that currently exists with a conditional use. Uh as you get more towards the Sun Coast

   1:29:20as well as the C one portion. In between the the purple parcel there, the industrial and the subject site here is the next MP MPD you'll be hearing from item 63. There's one variation request with this MPD from 9016011, street design and dedication requirements, continuation of extreme patterns. for the applicant to not provide an interconnect. to the south. Of course to the south is that Northridge MPD which is already in for plat and doesn't

   1:29:50have an vehicular access there. The applicant was not able to provide one because of that platting.

   1:29:57This is the master plan for this M PUD. This is a pretty basic box, but what you can see more on is this binding MPUD plan here, the binding conceptual plan. in which the park space is centrally located as well as located along the frontage of Uh the County Line Road as well as that reverse frontage road that connects the Northridge commercial portion to this MPUD, as well as to the MPUD that uh butts it, which is item P sixty three. This reverse frontage road A

   1:30:28modification to this reverse frontage road that's occurred over the past few days is that there's an eight-foot path that runs along the north side of this reverse frontage road to allow pedestrian interconnection between this MPD, the MPD that's going to come before you next, and the North Ridge portion. Uh which allows for the pedestrians to access the commercial sites within North Ridge.

   1:30:53This comes to you with a recommendation of approval. Uh from Planning Commission and PDE, but before I conclude here and ask for any questions, I would like to enter onto the record an email from F DOT and their contractors stating that no additional rightway for the expansion of County Line Road needs to come from the south side uh from Pasco County that the improvements are going to be occurring exclusively on the north side in Hernando.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:31:21Mm fair?

   StarkeyChair

   1:31:24Yeah.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:31:25So with that statement, when County Loan gets built, aren't they gonna put in a trail on the south side as well?

   Planning and Development staff

   1:31:33I'm not sure which side of the road uh the trail is gonna be on because F Dot is still finalizing their new P D and E, but what they could tell the county as well as the applicant is the only thing that they know is going to be the same between the design that they started in 2009 and the design they're currently working on. is the existing right of way. It's gonna stop on the south side where it currently exists and expand north. I I'm not sure which side of the road the trail's on just because the P DE is still happening.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:32:04Uh Commissioner Starkey I'm not happy with that at all.

   Planning and Development staff

   1:32:07I

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:32:07think we should have one on both on both sides of the road.

   StarkeyChair

   1:32:09Well, um Something. Yeah. I mean I think we should be prepared for something that we should know. We well, we should know which side it's on and

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:32:22I mean I'll we'll pull here from the applicant next, but I th I thought I was I was told that they didn't They weren't gonna build it 'cause it was gonna be torn out, so they w weren't gonna put it out there now but Now hearing that they're not gonna put it out there is Disturbing to me.

   StarkeyChair

   1:32:37Driven on County Line Road when you get over by Um Commissioner Simpson's property. There the multi use path is on the south side of the road. So I don't understand why They're not saying that it's not gonna be on the south side. It or at some point they're gonna have to cross, so I've seen it over there. It's beautiful. Uh I see the applicant's attorney has stepped up to the podium.

   Barbara Wilhite

   1:33:04Barbara Wilhite, [address removed]. M F you've been s you've done it. I have been sworn yet. F D O T hasn't finished their design. You all can influence their design however you want to influence it. Whether if you want an eight foot path on your side, you should influence their design. The proposal that I made was relating to the discussions that we have with your county engineer. What should we do? And this goes for both projects, Sun Coast Village and Sun and Sun City, what should we do as a project? Should

   1:33:35we do the required five foot sidewalk along our frontages? or something else. And because there's no design, there's no grades and you can't construct something Without any grades. Well you can, but it'll be torn up. And so the thought is the thought was go ahead and do our five foot required sidewalk. Of course it won't go anywhere um because it doesn't have anywhere to connect to to the east or to the west past Northridge. So the thought

   1:34:05is instead of us doing our five foot sidewalk and tearing it up, or you guys requiring me to do an eight foot And tearing it up. What we'd like to do is take those monies. and contribute them to the county instead of paying for things to be torn up. contribute those monies to the county, then they can use it over on Shady Hills Road for a sidewalk improvement that you actually are getting sidewalks on Shady Hills Road. Piece by piece, you're getting those sidewalks done. They'll actually start somewhere and go somewhere. You have schools, you have three schools on

   1:34:35Shady Hills Road. So that's the thought. But understanding that ultimately, when County Line Road is done, You'll get either a sidewalk or a trail, but you all get to participate in that because you're funding, you're helping to fund County Line Road. So that the thought is and the other thing is If I put a sidewalk out going to nowhere, that's gonna get torn up. It's going nowhere. What we did instead is we took our took our eight foot pat an eight foot path and did it internal. So not

   1:35:05only are we doing an eight foot internal path where our children and mothers can safely go between these three projects. Northridge has fourteen acres, sixty thousand square feet of commercial, pretty large commercial area. Sun City, next to this is we're on we're on Suncoast Village now. Sun City has 10,000 square feet of properly oriented buildings, Commissioner Starkey. They're oriented in a manner that I think you all be proud of. And so we put our eight-foot path there. So not only is my client doing paying

   1:35:35for eight-foot path, both clients, within their projects, they're actually, and they're taking the money that they would have spent on five-foot throwaway sidewalks on Calyline Road and contributing it to you. And not just the money for the five-foot sidewalks, about double the money. So the side the five-foot sidewalk along east front is about twelve, uh $27,000, and they're willing to give you a contribution each of $50,000. So that's $100,000 that you can use. on to get more sidewalks on Shady Hills Road where you have a need, you're ultimately

   1:36:05gonna get your county line road done in a manner that you're it's acceptable to you all because you are funding it. So I think it all works really well and is is a good solution for how these projects are constructed. It allows you to take money that would have just been wasted and plus some money and put some sidewalk improvements on Shady Hills Road. And then ultimately you'll have the how County Line Road is done when it's expanded because you're gonna be t first participating. So this is my idea of kind of how to put

   1:36:35this together. I didn't come I came up with it on my own, but I met with your county engineer And he too agrees that those five foot sidewalks would just be a throwaway at this time and thought that it was a better use of money to use the money for something. So I hope that explains what we came up with.

   StarkeyChair

   1:36:51Um I've asked them to put up um Google Maps. And if you could go to County Line in the Sun Coast, that's the area I need everyone to see.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:37:00Can I just stick in the Yeah, just to stick in this point? And Barbara I appreciate you working with the county engineer and the owner of the property to to make all this happen or the Incoming. Um And I just wanna make sure was what with the thing when the c concern with staff was they said there was no trail going on the side. But there's at least a path or a trail depending on what D O T picks. So we've got the right-of-way we need.

   1:37:25So as long as I got the right-way and we can take this contribution and build You know we're m we're making an investment on Shady Hills Road now. Seth Weightman up to Bosley, so this is gonna get us up you know, uh quite a bit further, which is good and we can work on other projects coming in to do the same thing. And if Barbara keep on developers helping us out with this, we we'd pr I'd I'd appreciate it. I'm sure we all would.

   StarkeyChair

   1:37:46I I do want you to see something, but it needs to be Google a a satellite view, not this this view.

   1:37:53If you look here, uh County Line Road, because this project is down to the left over here, right? By Linden, it's kind of Uh Yeah, so where's County Line?

   1:38:08You can have to zoom out.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:38:16Oh you are it appears that she's a two

   StarkeyChair

   1:38:18counties south.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:38:20You got about twenty eight feet of right away. You got twenty eight feet of right away the to edge of pavement all along your entire

   StarkeyChair

   1:38:28please move it to the intersection of the Sun Coast and County Lane. Sorry, I'm not sure. And then zoom in a little. Okay. Oh, you can't see it there. Um this is the first time.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:38:41So Commissioner Mariano, the M. Based on the graphics that are being shown in this package. There's twenty eight point six feet of Unimproved right of way. to edge of pavement on one corner of their property. going to twenty nine point four. So you've got another at least twenty five feet. of okay right away that can be used in DOT's redesign. Perfect.

   StarkeyChair

   1:39:07Um in this view here it's not shown but um They've improved this intersection and to the right of let's see what would be about uh I don't know a hundred feet or so to the right um over in that field starts the multi-use path. that continues all the way down county line. It's on the south side. So I I saw that um going to an

   1:39:37event over there in uh East Pasco. So we do wanna um be sure that we have Opportunity. But at the right of way saved, that's all that matters. Yeah.

   Barbara Wilhite

   1:39:48Your county eng it's A.E. Comm who's doing the design for F D O T and I know I'm I know your I'm sure your county engineer has their contact information and With your direction we'll get on the line to make sure that uh

   StarkeyChair

   1:40:04Yeah. That might be a wide sidewalk and a path on the north side. Well we'll look at it.

   1:40:11Do it without coming back, right? Okay, any um any other questions for Barbara? Barbara, is this the one that we reduced the eight eight block or something? So this one

   Barbara Wilhite

   1:40:22already had was reduced. It only has three eight unit buildings. The next one was reduced to two. A couple a couple highlights. This particular plan that you saw has two point four acres of parks and open space. What's required is one point four four. So about an acre more of parks and open space. We have nearly double the required visitor parking. We only have three eight-unit buildings, so we have a nice mix of sixes and mostly sixes and some eights. And as we said, we're going to do the eight-foot path on the north side of our connecting

   1:40:52roadway. They're doing a roundabout, just have a nice flow of traffic. So I'm pretty proud of how these projects came together and planned their projects together. It was a unique opportunity and we slowed this project down by doing that. But the end result's a good one. Okay, is there anyone here who wishes to speak against this item? And I would ask that that proposed condition that the commissioner read in you would include that in your motion because it's not in your packet. Okay.

   1:41:23And I can hand that motion out too.

   StarkeyChair

   1:41:27Okay, um Commissioner Mariano, you want to make a motion?

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:41:30I want to make a motion we approve with the new proposed COA prior to the issuance of the first certificate of opcubacy within the project, developers shall pay the county to the the sum of fifty thousand dollars, which may be used by the county towards sidewalk improvements on Shady Hills Road. The payment shall not be mobility fee creditable. The developers shall not be required to construct a sidewalk path along the project's Condolite Road frontage.

   StarkeyChair

   1:41:55Okay.

   MarianoVice Chair

   1:41:56Second.

   StarkeyChair

   1:41:57All right. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? All right. Thank you. And now we'll do um P sixty four. Sixty three? Sixty three. Okay.