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PDE-26-7902

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Heard once, at the Planning Commission on Nov 20, 2025.

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Special Exception (Consent) – PALLAMARI PROPERTIES LLC/Lakewood Duplex – Special Exception for Two Duplex Buildings in an R-2 Low Density PC Addendum Agenda Residential District – Land Development Code Section 515.4.A – R-2 Low Density Residential District; Special Exception Uses – Northwest Pasco County – North Side of State Road 52, Approximately 24 Feet West of Colony Road – Containing Approximately 0.87 Acres

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    Jon Moody

    Item PC five is PDE 267902, a zoning amendment in the name of Palomari Properties LLC, Lakewood Duplex, a special exception for two duplex buildings in an R2 low density residential district. Land Development Code Section 515.4A going from R2 low density residential district in an R2 low density residential district. Special exception uses in northwest Pasco County

    on the north side of State Road 52, approximately 24 feet west of Colony Road, containing approximately 0.87 acres. And this item now has independent. individuals sign up to speak and we ask that this item be moved to the regular agenda.

    Charles GreyChair

    All right. Then we'll move it to the regular agenda. Okay.

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    Jon Moody

    Uh the first item that we have on the regular agenda is item PC five.

    Charles GreyChair

    Okay, we'll need your name and address.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Kalow, you I Oh okay.

    Good afternoon. Uh Kayla Yi.

    Charles GreyChair

    She's with us.

    There we go.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Kayla Ye with Planning Development and Economic Growth.

    Charles GreyChair

    Okay.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    PDE 26-7902 is a special exception for two duplex buildings in the R2 Low Density Residential District in the name of Palomari Properties LLC.

    The future land use is REST 6 in the Comp Plan and the applicant is requesting to develop the property with two duplex units in conformance with the R2 low density residential district standards of the Land Development Code. The subject sites are on the north side of State Road 52 and approximately twenty-four feet west of Colony Road.

    It is also located within the central market area.

    This is a context view of our map. As you can see, the subject properties are the two parcels highlighted in red.

    Here's an aerial view of our map.

    The surrounding future land use uh is res six to the north, the south, the east and the west.

    The surrounding zoning to the north is R two.

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    Oh yeah, okay.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    I shall proceed. Um the surrounding zoning to the north is R two, to the east is PU D, the Sugar Creek PU D. Uh to the south and to the west are uh R two are both R two zoning.

    The subject parcels are undeveloped on approximately 0.87 acres, uh, one parcel being tract 108 makes up 0.47 acres, uh and the other parcel, uh tract 109 accounts for the remaining 0.40 acres. Access will be from Lakewood Drive, a standard county maintained residential roadway.

    Uh this is the applicant's uh conceptual plan. As you can see the site plan illustrates the front view, the side view, and the rear view.

    Um PDE recommends the proposed special exception shall be kept at two duplex units on the total 0.87 acreage, limiting one duplex per lot.

    PDE also recommends for no vehicular access to the properties from Colony Road pursuant to the LDC section 901.3F. Staff recommends that access shall only be from Lakewood Drive to avoid any operational and safety conflict with residential uses and accesses.

    And this is coming with recommendation for approval with conditions from the PDE and I'll stand by for any questions.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Sure. How many duplexes are on Lakewood Drive?

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Uh currently there are none.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    There's none. Yes sir. Okay. And you said Lakewood Drive was a standard roadway?

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Yes, sir.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    I noticed in the Substandard roadway analysis performed by county staff that it indicates that only two dwelling units Yeah. When there are four? And if you do the math, that would put them over the exemption

    Stacey Burgess

    Good afternoon, Stacy Burgess, Development Review Services. For this project, it it will have two well one duplex on each parcel, which will give you the four units. Um for ITE Land use 215, they would um have a I believe, let's see, four units, they would equal about three trips. Um, for the daily, they would end up being under

    under a hundred. The road does have some uh isolated substandard areas, but overall the roadway is standard.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Well, your exemption analysis says that the number of daily trips is two dwelling units times 7.2

    ITE rate to give fifteen average daily trips. There's four dwelling units, that would be thirty daily trips.

    Stacey Burgess

    Correct, that is incorrect.

    It would if they if this roadway was substandard, they would fall under um about thirty daily trips. You are correct. It should be four and not two.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    So then they should provide a substandard roadway analysis.

    Stacey Burgess

    They at the most they would have to provide a prop share if it was substandard. Well. But not but not an analysis.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Okay, but they're not exempt.

    Stacey Burgess

    They're I I believe the report says they're exempt.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    But The report is not correct.

    Stacey Burgess

    Where's where does this say? Does it say that it's exempt?

    Connected City

    Yeah, it's finding effect number eleven.

    Stacey Burgess

    It says the roadway is exempt.

    From the document that I saw, it said that they were exempt from the analysis and exempt from the mitigation.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    My point is that the calculation to determine that is not correct.

    Stacey Burgess

    Correct. I agree.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    They're not exempt.

    Stacey Burgess

    Not exempt from what?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    They're not egg well if they owe a prop share for s mitigating substandard conditions, then they're not exempt from that.

    Stacey Burgess

    The form says that they were considered to be um a standard roadway. That was the findings, that the roadway is standard, not substandard. There are some isolated areas where it is substandard, but overall that roadway is standard. And based on the land development code, the roadway can be fair.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Okay, I'll respectfully disagree with you and I'll also make one other point.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Okay.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    That When a substandard roadway analysis is submitted, our land development code says that it's to be signed and sealed by a professional engineer.

    Unidentified speakerVoice D

    Okay.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    And the Florida department. The Florida Board of Professional Engineers also requires that engineers working in government that perform such analyses. Have their work signed and sealed by a professional engineer in charge. So who's in charge?

    Stacey Burgess

    To my knowledge, this this um project did not have a analysis at all. And

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    even if it's an anal it says substandard roadway analysis and it contains engineering calculations.

    Stacey Burgess

    Do you mind can you tell me where it's listed? I have number 10, number eleven.

    I do not have that information. From the findings I'm I'm sorry, but from the findings that I have, this project did not have analysis. And even if they did not have the typo, even if it was four, they would not be um they wouldn't have to do

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    When Ms Wilhite comes in she's gonna rezoning some land. And it's going to be for five hundred units and they're gonna access a county roadway. They don't perform a substandard roadway analysis and say that it was twenty units or ten units. They use the five hundred. They use the actual number of units she's implying for the entitlement for.

    Stacey Burgess

    Okay.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Shouldn't that happen here?

    Stacey Burgess

    No. I mean Based on based on this project, they have four units. And if the road, if if we were to say This road is substandard. They would generate more than 20 trips, but less than a hundred trips. They would not have to produce an analysis. They would have to produce a prop share.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Well, okay, then where's the computation for a prop share to fix the substandard roadway conditions that you acknowledged a minute ago exist?

    Stacey Burgess

    My acknowledgement that the roadway is not substandard, you disagree with me and I respect that.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    I disagree with you because I drive on it every day.

    Stacey Burgess

    Okay.

    So you definitely have personal experience. I don't so based on that If the road, if we agree today that the road is substandard based on your personal experience, then this project would be um have to yield a prop share and then they would need to be uh information done for that.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Okay, so that would be some error in this report that needs to be corrected.

    Stacey Burgess

    Yes. That's the information. Okay. Anything anything else?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Not with regarding traffic, no.

    Stacey Burgess

    Thank you.

    Amy Heiler

    Amy Toll with Planning Development Economic Growth, we can have that updated um prior to the well I guess it's special exception. So if you would prefer, we can have that executed prior if you want a continuance and coordinate with the applicant, otherwise We can have that updated and bring it back with the order.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    That's going

    to

    be the smallest issue in this case, but we'll hear the rest of it.

    Amy Heiler

    Understood. Thank you.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Also while I have you here. Yeah.

    The land development code says that you'll submit signed and sealed boundary legal descriptions and sketches of the property. Can we look at that in the Application.

    And I'm sorry because I gotta scroll up here to find it.

    Oh

    Unidentified speakerVoice E

    Which part are you

    Charles GreyChair

    looking for?

    Connected City

    That's

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    exhibit A, correct?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yes. Can we look at that? Can you put that up there?

    Unidentified speakerVoice E

    Where is it at?

    David Engel

    Gotcha.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    So that looks to me like it's a signed and sealed boundary. Survey of a piece of one of these lots. Not of the two lots.

    It looks like it's about the north two thirds of tract one oh eight.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    I'd like to defer to the applicant for this question.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Okay.

    Piro Dima

    Good afternoon, Planning Commission. My name is Piro Dima. I live in One, two, seven, eight, nine Perry Peak Trail in Odessa, Florida and Pascoa County side. I'm the owner of the property.

    I do have the boundary for both uh

    Boundary survey for both properties.

    Anne Water

    No.

    Amanda Hill

    Can

    Amy Heiler

    you

    Stacey Burgess

    send it to me also?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Okay. I guess my point is is that That's not a survey of the property. Yeah, I know, but this is the one that gets presented to us to try to decide the case.

    Mr. Gray, I don't see any ni I don't have any more. questions of the staff over the application. I'm merely pointing out that there are a lot of errors in our agenda packet with the applications.

    Charles GreyChair

    Okay.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    No need to delay.

    Charles GreyChair

    Okay. Let's continue with the presentation then.

    Thank you.

    Does that complete your presentation or do you have more?

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Yes, that completes it, sir.

    Charles GreyChair

    You complete it?

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Yes. Okay.

    Charles GreyChair

    Any questions from the staff?

    Okay.

    Is the applicant present?

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Yes.

    I assume that was the gentleman that just came on. Mm-hmm.

    Amy Heiler

    Uh Amy toll planning development. Based on these deficiencies, we would recommend a continuance.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Well if there's a if there's a citizen that was here to speak to, we should let them speak.

    Charles GreyChair

    Okay, well b based on that request, is there anyone in the audience that here is here to speak on this application?

    He

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    I'm

    Charles GreyChair

    hearing the staff

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    wants one.

    Charles GreyChair

    I guess he's said everything he wants to say at this moment, except he wants to continue. Does

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    the applicant want to say anything else before we hear from the public?

    Charles GreyChair

    Okay.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Show the Planning Commission something?

    Charles GreyChair

    Yes.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Patty, can you put the exhibit up? On the Screen that I emailed to you.

    This is a Map of Lakewood Drive and the surrounding neighborhood. All of the red hatched out properties. our owner occupied homestead Properties. That constitutes the vast majority of this neighborhood.

    Connected City

    Okay. Very good.

    Charles GreyChair

    Yeah, the I mean the one thing I'm concerned about is compatibility.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yeah,

    Charles GreyChair

    the point I'm trying to

    Unidentified speakerVoice E

    make, yes,

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    or

    Unidentified speakerVoice E

    will

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    make.

    Charles GreyChair

    Having been familiar with that pretty familiar with that area. So it seems like you you're putting something in there that really doesn't fit, but Anyway, if uh we have members of the public that want to speak, if you want to come forward please and give us your name and address.

    Jon Moody

    The first individual that I have signed up to speak is a Mr. Jimmy Sarka and after that I have a Ms. Ann Warder.

    School District Representative

    David, is this gonna be continued? Can they speak now and next time?

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Well. Well I think. I mean first of all we don't even know that it's going to be continued yet. So I think

    School District Representative

    you should let them speak. Okay. I just don't want to limit their right to speak on the next one. All right,

    Charles GreyChair

    your name

    School District Representative

    and

    Charles GreyChair

    address, please.

    Unidentified speakerVoice F

    Name's Jimmy Sarka.

    Charles GreyChair

    What's your address, Jamie?

    Unidentified speakerVoice F

    [address removed]. And the reason I'm here is it burns my extra. Everything that's been going on in this county, because I was born and raised in the neighborhood where I'm at today.

    My biggest question is for the gentleman That's wanting to do this. of how long he's been in Pasco County. And how long has he lived in Lakewood Acres?

    Okay. What's going on here? and this whole county is messed up, and this should not happen by no means. As far as the traffic d yeah, I get John's point on the trafficking things, but it's not as much as what the zoning's been and you guys want to continue to change things and take away properties. And if I'm not mistaken, that did have originally an easement that went right through those two lots.

    Years ago. My family's been in that neighborhood since sixty seven. And ain't none of this right. When you're ruining I'm neighborhoods by putting way too much stuff on one little piece of lot.

    But back to my initial question. Okay.

    So And I mean I don't know how you guys work and do with this as far as but what I've seen, y I guess you guys already voted on stuff because nobody's been here to object to it. And improved it and put it through? No, we haven't voted on anything yet. Okay. Oh.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Those are earlier items on the agenda.

    Unidentified speakerVoice F

    Yes.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    They have not taken any action on this item yet.

    Unidentified speakerVoice F

    No, no, I'm not saying on this. I'm saying other ones

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    that

    Unidentified speakerVoice F

    people were here to get stuff done on it.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    There was nobody objecting to those items. We

    Unidentified speakerVoice F

    invited

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    people to come up.

    Unidentified speakerVoice F

    And then I'm gonna go back to that because all the working people Can't take off work to be here. And from my understanding what the bylaws and their laws are on it is There's supposed to be a meeting held after five o'clock for people to be able to come. And Fortunately I'm able to come. Huh? That's not that's not legally accurate. It's not We're all working people by the way. Yes, I understand that. Uh no, I understand that, but I'm saying the people that live in these

    communities and stuff where stuff's trying to get pushed through and it's getting pushed through. Without them being able to come because the times they have to be at work During the day and they can't come in the middle of the day. I'm not aware of any other duplexes that have been pushed. Well, I'm not just saying the duplex, I'm talking about other stuff. Other cases. Other cases.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    This uh this is why we allow virtual public comment. This is why we allow people to attend virtually.

    Unidentified speakerVoice F

    And I understand that, but when you have only during the daytime from regular business hours of people that work regular business jobs like you guys are.

    Connected City

    So so just to to clear up Maybe m a misunderstanding. We don't necessarily have to approve anything that so just because there's no public comment opposing something doesn't mean that we're gonna approve it. We still review it as well as a planning commission. We look at those agenda items and if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit, you know, whether there's public opposition or not. Now obviously if there's opposition we're gonna hear that, but Okay,

    Unidentified speakerVoice F

    but where's the justification come from of it being approved? That you guys feel that you're not sure. Listen,

    Charles GreyChair

    everybody has the opportunity to ask for something if they want it. It doesn't always doesn't mean we're gonna approve it.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    It doesn't always get approved. In fact I've got a reputation for Coming in here and on these consent agenda items pulling them off and having a regular hearing.

    We

    we all review

    Connected City

    them.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yeah,

    Connected City

    we we do review those things. We don't just push them through. That's and that's the purpose of the board. You know, obviously we hear the public's input like yours yourself. But our our purpose is to review these items and again we might have no opposition to it, but we'll look at it and say this this is doesn't fit the neighborhood or this there's a number of reasons why we might uh recommend denial. All right.

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    Yeah.

    Charles GreyChair

    Mm-hmm. Who's next?

    Jon Moody

    The next individual I have signed up to speak is Ms. Anne Warder, and after that we have Ms. Nancy Hazelwood.

    Anne Water

    We could have you. Good afternoon. My name is Anne Water and I live at [address removed]. I've been a permanent residence here for the past forty seven years in Lakewood Acres, subdivision one unit. One. Pasco County, Florida. And I'm here as a concerned residents of Lakewood Acres regarding petition number seven nine zero two, which has been filed

    in the name of Palmer. properties for special exception to develop two duplexes. buildings one duplex per lot in our R2 low density. Residential district. I respectfully urge the board to deny this request. Our neighborhood was thoroughly zoned for single-family homes to

    preserve its character, safety, and quality of life, allowing multifamily dwellings. Such as duplexes, we fundamentally alter the fabric of our community. Increased density could lead to traffic conte congestions on streets not designed for higher volume. Parking shortages, especially on weekends and

    evening hours, to put a strain on the infrastructure already in place, such as water, sewage, waste management, loss of green space. And privacy for existing homeowners, and the potential decline in property value due to the incompatible development. While I understand the need for diverse housing options, zoning

    laws exist to ensure balanced substantial growth. Granting the granting exception set a precedent that could open the door for further developments, inconsistent with our neighborhood established character. I respectfully ask the board to consider the long-term implication of this decision and to uphold the integrity of

    our R2 zoning. Please render a decision of no for our neighborhood. Thank you for your time and consideration. And I heard I need substantial evidence. This is how our you know, neighborhood was developed. Half an acre For home. Not a little We know and making an exception will take that. character away from Lakewood Acres. Thank

    you.

    Charles GreyChair

    Thank you very much.

    Anne Water

    Do you need a copy of my paper?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Is that something you can you won are you willing to give up or you want or you need to keep?

    Anne Water

    I beg your pardon?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Is that a copy that you can give?

    Anne Water

    This is the original from nineteen seventy eight when we moved into Lakewood Acres.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    The question is

    Anne Water

    We have two lots, ninety and ninety one.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    But do you w are you willing to let us keep it for the record?

    Okay. Ma'am, is that something that you're willing to give up to us? Permanently. Permanently, because if you give it to us we have to keep it for the record.

    Anne Water

    No.

    Unidentified speakerVoice E

    You probably should keep it. Yeah, you should probably keep it.

    Anne Water

    But I just want you to see how spacious for a home instead of uh

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    we'll can can you make us a copy?

    Anne Water

    Which is less than half an acre.

    Charles GreyChair

    If

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    staff makes a copy of it, can we keep it?

    Charles GreyChair

    Okay.

    Thank you, Patrick. Can

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    you

    Charles GreyChair

    get

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    a motion to receive a copy?

    Charles GreyChair

    Yeah, file and receive the copy. Second. Or receive and file. Motion and a second. Further discussion, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Pose like signed. All right, was there anybody else that wanted to speak on this particular topic?

    Jon Moody

    The next individual I have signed up to speak is a Ms. Nancy Hazelwood and after that I have a Miss Julia Bartanek.

    Charles GreyChair

    Okay. Yeah. All right. You wanna just come up front here and sit so you don't have to it's

    Amy Heiler

    for the eleven.

    Charles GreyChair

    Huh?

    Amy Heiler

    Not for this one. It's for eleven.

    Charles GreyChair

    Oh, for eleven? Okay.

    Nancy Hazelwood

    Yeah, yeah, it's actually Nancy Hayswood, [address removed]. I was actually trying to sign up for number eleven, the tree ordinance. But since I'm here I'll give in my two cents worth. I'm with them. It sounds like Since you're here. Make it worth your while. It sounds like it would start their ball rolling on screwing up their whole neighborhood. So say no. Thank you.

    Charles GreyChair

    Thank you.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Thanks, Nancy.

    Charles GreyChair

    Mm-hmm.

    All right, there's nobody left to speak on this one.

    Jon Moody

    The last individual that I have signed up to speak is a Mr. Anthony Kalidge.

    Charles GreyChair

    Mr. Kallege, if you'd just give us your full name and address.

    Anthony Kly

    Good afternoon. My name is Anthony Kly. I'm a homeowner and resident at [address removed]. Um I'm speaking on nearly 30 uh of my fellow neighbors on our street who signed a petition against this special request, and um we unanimously oppose it. Adding the four units on a single family uh lot home and uh lot, excuse me. Uh we feel it would bring more traffic noise and strain on parking and it would disrupt the quiet, cohesive feel we've kept there for years. And

    uh you know, I'm sure in in our position you guys would not want this on your own street. Uh I have also some signatures that I'm willing to give. I went door to door to receive these and I find uh that task far more apprehensive than speaking before you today, I might say. As I've never gone door to door for anything in my life. But um Yeah, we ask you to uh please uh deny this uh special request on Lakewood Drive as we

    turn in that presentation. And

    that's all related to the easy.

    Charles GreyChair

    All in favor? You

    Unidentified speakerVoice D

    skip the clerk. Yeah.

    Charles GreyChair

    Skim that. Aye. All right. Thank you very much. Anyone else? Gianna?

    Jon Moody

    That is the last individual I have signed up to speak, Mr. Chairman Mariano.

    Charles GreyChair

    All right, does the applicant like to say anything?

    Piro Dima

    I totally understand the concerns of the neighbors.

    What I'm planning to build is a nice duplex room.

    Charles GreyChair

    Sorry. You just need to give your name and address every time you come up to speak.

    Piro Dima

    Spiro Dima, one two seven eight nine, Berry Pictel Odessa, Florida, three three five five six. All right, good.

    Charles GreyChair

    Go ahead.

    Piro Dima

    I totally understand the concerns of the neighbors. I'm planning to I have a picture approximately the Draftman gave me how it's gonna look. And it looks very good. And I'm planning to keep the value of the property. Hi. And uh I can build SETs without approval and rezoning with main residents. Let's say 1700 square feet, an ADU unit, which I don't need any approval or any exceptions or any rezoning questions. But I didn't think it's gonna look good to Staγram for you

    for. buildings in that neighborhood. It's gonna look as I said, maybe a small duplex, good looking duplex is gonna keep and it's gonna be only two bedrooms. It's gonna be a lot less traffic than me building four different residents over there. I thought those g this was gonna bu look much better than me building two big houses and two small houses which are allowed to build it without approval.

    Charles GreyChair

    Okay, anything else?

    Piro Dima

    That's it. I hope uh I can give uh my personal cell phone number to any neighbor and we can discuss it. I guarantee you and I promise I'm gonna keep that property, as by all other properties. Not good. Perfect. Like no problems at all. Like zero. It's gonna be a beautiful looking property.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    And what happens when you sell it?

    Piro Dima

    Excuse me?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    And what happens when you sell it?

    Piro Dima

    No, the the reason I'm no the reason I'm doing this I can't

    Connected City

    we don't know.

    Piro Dima

    No no I guarantee you that because the reason I'm doing this I have a son in high school and river and uh River Ridge. And I have a daughter, but she's not gonna deal with real estate. She wants to be a doctor like her mom. And my son wants to go in that direction. And I know I'm only fifty. As long as I'm alive, that property is now going to be sold. I know that. I can sign it.

    Christopher Poole

    So you're gonna occupy the property or

    Piro Dima

    uh no, I'm gonna rent it. Okay. But I'm not going to sell the property.

    Charles GreyChair

    Any

    Piro Dima

    other questions?

    Charles GreyChair

    Anything else? All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate you coming in.

    Okay, anybody have any comments, questions? Anybody want to make a motion? Uh

    Connected City

    So our options are to approve, deny, or continue?

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Correct.

    Connected City

    Just like any other case.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    The only thing is though that I the only concern I have about approving it, as Mr. Moody noted, is I'm not sure you have a correct legal description. in front of you to approve it. So Unless staff tells me they have They were wrong about that.

    Amy Heiler

    Amy Tell, Planning, Development, Economic Growth. That's correct. The legal description that's in there is not for the two properties. Uh however, the applicant did show me a legal description with both, but it was not signed and sealed. So we do need to have that signed and sealed.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    And the other thing is that There is no condition of approval that says what the correct prop share would be for Uh the subsaner road.

    Amy Heiler

    Correct.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    So

    Amy Heiler

    that is something that I did speak with Stacy with and we can get that fairly quickly. Um so it's

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    not sure that it's Well, approval is technically an option. I'm sure it's approvable today. So realistically I think your options are denial and continuance.

    Charles GreyChair

    I'd like to make a motion for denial personally. I don't think it's compatible at all in that area.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    I'll second that. And I will thank the Planning Commission because in full disclosure, I live on Spur Road on the second lot north of Coltway. And this is my neighborhood. And I will tell you that this is a neighborhood. Love. predominantly Owner occupied homes, there are no duplexes on Lakewood Drive, and it just doesn't fit.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    So One thing you need to do, and I don't know if the motion maker wants to do it or who the sec whoever seconded the motion. Um but you have to cite the criteria for special exception are in your packet, so you need to cite one or more of those criteria.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Mr. Gray, if I may, help you. Yes. Objective flu 1.4, protection of residential neighborhoods. To ensure the long term viability of residential neighborhoods by regulating future development and redevelopment to create compatibility with surrounding land uses.

    Charles GreyChair

    I like that one. What

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    he says.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Well we also typically cite policy one point ten point one. I have ch

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    happen to have that one here too.

    Sure. It says that we will review all plan amendments, rezoning, special exception and conditional use applications as necessary for compatibility and appropriate timing. Review shall include, and I think the most important one as to this case would be B, consideration of existing development patterns and approved development in that area, and D consideration of environmental and cultural features and community character.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    So and that's special exception criteria one, which is consistent since you consistency with the comprehensive plan.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Correct.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Are there any others that you think are appropriate in the special exception criteria?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Um potentially policy flu 1.10.2 To foster superior design and to mitigate potential incompatibilities, encourage the use of land use techniques in design. Such techniques may include but not be limited to the following. I limits on density or intensity.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Okay. I m actually meant other in the special exception criteria. You but you cite a number of complan policies. There's also other special exception criteria. I'm asking are any of those that you wanted to cite as well?

    Connected City

    Yeah, I'm looking for the normally we have it in our

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    agenda packet.

    Connected City

    Let me uh

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    pull them up.

    Connected City

    Can't find it. It's normal towards the end of the item.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    The

    Christopher Poole

    signal sheet,

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    correct? Yeah, it's his signature sheet.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Well, your choices are the proposed use shall be consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies of the adopted comprehensive plan elements or applicable portions thereof. Two, the proposed use will not create or excessively increase traffic or parking congestion or otherwise affect public safety. Three. The site upon which the proposed use to be located has suitable drainage, access, ingress and egress, on site parking, loading areas, refuse collection, and adequate utilities available to service the site. Four,

    the site which the special exception is to be located has or will have screening and buffering sufficient to prevent interference with the adjoinment of surrounding properties. Five, proposed signs and lighting will not create any adverse glare or adversely affect traffic safety, economic value, or cause other significant problems on adjoining or surrounding properties. And last but not least, six, there is adequate yard and open space to serve the property upon which the special exception use will be maintained.

    Connected City

    Yeah, looks like it probably one and two apply. From what I can see.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    So the motion is to deny it based on number one, based on the compliant policies read by Mr. Moody. And number two. Is that the motion?

    Connected City

    That's that's a motion. I'll second. Is

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    the motion

    Connected City

    if you amend

    Charles GreyChair

    the motion? And we have a second.

    Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

    Okay.

    Charles GreyChair

    Any further discussion of the motion? If not, all in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, like sign? Okay. Quest is designed.