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Heard once, at the Board of County Commissioners on Feb 20, 2024.

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An Ordinance Amending The Pasco County Comprehensive Plan; Providing for A Comprehensive Plan Amendment To The Future Land Use Map (Map 2-15 And Sheet 23) Amending From RES-6 (Residential-6 Du/Ga) To PD (Planned Development) On Approximately 25.57 Acres Of Real Property Located On The West Side Of Eiland Boulevard Approximately 1,836 Feet North of SR-54; And a Text Amendment Creating Subarea Policy FLU 7.1.71 – The Corwyn At Wesley Hills PD; And A Map Amendment To The Future Land Use Map 2-9 Adding Subarea Map 2-9 (71) The Corwyn At Wesley Hills PD; And Providing For Additional Text Amendments As Necessary For Internal Consistency; Providing For A Repealer, Severability, And An Effective Date.

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    Board of County CommissionersP44Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes
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    Ron OakleyChair

    Aye. Motion pass 5-0. Okay. Move on to P Forty four.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Okay. So P forty four was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times January third, twenty twenty four, and by affidavit of certified mailings and site postings.

    Ron OakleyChair

    Item P 44 is an ordinance amending the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan, providing for a comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map Map 2-15, Sheet 23, amending from Res 6, residential 6 dwelling units per gross acre to PD plan development on approximately 25.57 acres of real property located on the west side of Island Boulevard, approximately 1,836 feet north of State Road 54. And a text amendment creating sub-area policy flu 7.1.71 to Corwin at Wesley

    Ch Wesley Hills, PD. And a MAP amendment to the future land use map Map 2-9, adding sub-area Map 2-971, the Core Winette Wesley Hills PD, and providing for additional text amendments as necessary for internal consistency, providing for repealer servability and an effective date. uh discuss you with recommendation uh for approval from the uh local planning agency and the planning and economic growth department. We do have a presentation if necessary on this project as well.

    Unidentified speakerVoice A

    Okay.

    Seth Weightman

    Any discussion? Sure. Terry. Thank you, Chair. Is this the time to to dis to discuss it? Or do we

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    do it at fifty when we come in? If you if you want to discuss the plan amendment, now's the time.

    This is a This is a P D plan amendment, correct? Yes. pretty much it's all fair game at this point if you wanna if you wanna talk about it because they've They've tendered a plan. plan as part of the complexity. Spent.

    Seth Weightman

    a good portion of a year working through this project. I don't know if the applicants are here if it now's the time to come up. And it's really unique what we work through as far as multifamily. I know multifamily is getting Taking some Shots to the nose here lately. But I if there's do we have The options, the four options that you guys

    Kathryn Starkey

    is this the one on island island

    Ron OakleyChair

    do you want a presentation it

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    sounds like it sounds like it would be best to do a presentation yeah

    Ron OakleyChair

    Ms. Well Hyde, if you come forward and Well the upper

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    staff to

    Ron OakleyChair

    do the appeal,

    Barbara Wilhite

    I just want to can I hand out before staff start so that they have time.

    Seth Weightman

    Well whichever is appropriate because this my my point of doing this is we second second um

    Ron OakleyChair

    second by roll call vote.

    Kathryn Starkey

    District two, Commissioner Weightman. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Hi. District four, Commissioner Bradford. Sorry. For that. District five, Commissioner Mariano. Uh District One Chairman Oakley.

    Ron OakleyChair

    Aye.

    Seth Weightman

    Motion pass 5-0. To show this is we don't have as multifamily makes its way into the county, there's some uniqueness with this project. And I think it's important that the board, if they haven't seen seen it already, uh Ms. Wu Hight and staff in the Yeah. The customer there Talk to it. And just Good. Good conversation to have.

    Jack Mariano

    Mr. Chairman?

    Seth Weightman

    Yes.

    Jack Mariano

    So maybe we should just have staff do the presentation first, then let let the applicant mock. That's usually the best way to do that.

    Ron OakleyChair

    Yeah. Okay. Item P forty four is the ordinance amending the comp plan for the CORWEN at Wesley Hills. It's a small scale comprehensive plan amendment. I've read the title of the ordinance. So the proposal is to change the future land use from REST six, six dwelling units per gross acre. To a PD plan development to allow for 350 multifamily apartments with 15,000 square feet of commercial retail office on the site on 25.5 acres.

    This is located on the west side of Ireland, just north of State Road 54. Uh and it's where there's a sub-area policy that comes along with it, and there is the companion rezoning that's been referred to later on on the agenda uh for today. Uh this is the general location, so it's southwest of Zephyrhills in the South Market area, which also happens to be in the urban expansion area. And this is the overall aerial. You'll notice the site outlined in red. uh

    across the street from it, although it's not showing up on the aerial, is a shopping center here. And then we have I believe Publix and the Home Depot just to the south of the subject site. So as you can see there's quite a bit of intensity. uh commercial type of non-residential intensity that's lining up on Stereo fifty four and island boulevard. Uh this is the the context map of the subject site itself. Uh indicating the locations of the residential as l as well as the non-residential uh locations

    on site.

    Uh this is the existing future land use map as you could see the subject site is well within this uh beige hatched area, which is the Res 6 future land use and to the south you'll s you'll notice Uh the ROR teacher Landu is coming up in this orange. That runs along fifty four. Here the NAP changes with the uh with an amendment to the comprehensive plan to the P D. And the application of the sub area within that boundary? Here's that sub area policy up

    Uh at a minimum seven thousand five hundred square feet of retail commercial and seven thousand five hundred square feet of office combined that makes for fifteen thousand square feet. um that will be integrated with the multifamily uses. We'll note we'll note from here that in the MPUD there's quite a bit of discussion about the vertical integration of this commercial office within uh the buildings that will have the multifamily. So first floor will be the commercial office and above will be multifamily.

    In terms of the transportation network, there is a trail that runs along Island Boulevard. It's known as the Morris Bridge Handcart Trail. Uh this project is going to be uh proposing uh the establishment of its segment of the of that network. And they're going to build I believe it's a ten foot wide um Sidewalk or a trail cut segment. On their property, on their side of the island boulevard next to their property. Um

    Here's the zoning. Uh on the subject property. Which is I believe A C And then these are the policies in particular that make the land use consistent. Um the transitional land use policy is per is important to consider because of the commercial properties that are just to the south. So as you're moving north from Sera 54, you're transitioning from high intensity commercial, non-residential. into a mixed use project, which is the Corwin at Wesley Hills, and the the intensities

    and the densities begin to taper off uh as you move further north.

    Um With that, uh we close the uh presentation with a recommendation of approval. um of the comprehensive plan amendment. Any questions?

    Okay.

    Kathryn Starkey

    I think what we want to see is the site plan. Because a lot of work was done on this and we like the site plan. Right? Yeah. And then I have a question for you because sometimes site plans aren't binding. And you know, we w we need to make it binding if that's what we like about this. I don't know which kind of development it is where

    Barbara Wilhite

    Barbara Well Height 6327 Grand Boulevard, New Port Richey, 34652. I have the pleasure of representing ECI group. My clients are behind me ready to jump in and anything that I kind of don't cover or that you have more questions about. You've already heard about where our site's located. This is where ECI um does business. They already do business in Pasco County. They were already your partners and are happy to bring this project forward. Again where our site is.

    This is interesting to show some context of all the retail that's already around us. There's existing retail, a lot of it's vagrant, vacant, a lot of it's um can build out and our site will only help that, especially given the connectivity that we have to the south. Again, showing the vacant commercial parcels, so this area is Ready to to develop and and uh develop in a manner that you'll be proud of. As you've already heard, there's improvements to State Road

    54 in this area, as well as island.

    This is the site plan. Get jump into the site plan. This is the site plan. It didn't look it looked nothing like this when we started when I started this journey with my client group at ECI Group. We had two isolated seventy five hundred square foot buildings. We didn't have any central feature. Um we had four story buildings along island. We were asked to do three-story um to to minimize a long island, three-story long island, four story in the back is what's proposed. You can see that there's two mixed

    use buildings that are shown in the In the orange and the pink. Um we have 15,000 square feet of retail office. That's a minimum and a maximum. They have to do mixed-use buildings, two of at least two of them. There's four different elevations for those mixed-use buildings which I'll share for you. But there's also other interesting features where you have you will see that the orientation of the retail buildings is too The

    center green there where we come in to the project, and that's on purpose, but you'll also see that that retail wraps. Because Ordge buildings are just Retail. They're either one floor or two floor to keep depending depending on the option. And then you have the m mixed use concept is where the residential, which is in pink, joins those buildings. connectivity to the south to the publics against ac across a Duke easement corridor, which the clients already

    worked with Duke. You'll see two connecti connection spots to the north. A pretty major north-south um connection through the project. No no gates. They want the public to enjoy the space that they're going to create, both but between the greens and then hopefully we'll have restaurants. I mean I think when you look at this area and fifteen thousand square feet. You're not talking nationals, you're talking homegrown in boutiques and restaurants and the kind of things where we all want to go see and we see want to

    see more of those places where we can take our families and go enjoy a a Saturday night or a Sunday morning or Sunday afternoon.

    And you and when you did hear staff say we're we we didn't we're so only had to do five feet sidewalk along our our uh project boundary on Eland. Staff said take a look at what FTOT is doing. Can you continue that? We said okay, we'll we'll make sure it's ten feet. So quite a bit of work here and

    This is the a context that my team put together, Karma put together, just to show what's going on in the area. The connectivity that we're starting and creating will then your staff can continue that as the property to the north is developed. You can see our proximity to Avalon Park. You'll be able to take the trail at this point south and then all the way along the uh north side of fifty four to go to Avalon Park, so you can go by bike, you can go by you walk

    Just some architecture. This is a rendering of the project. You can see that central green space going all the way through the project down to the project's clubhouse.

    Ron OakleyChair

    Uh can you can you

    know?

    Those three story buildings. Three story or four story?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Three story on the front. Four stories on the back.

    Ron OakleyChair

    And the very back too? Mm-hmm. Okay.

    Barbara Wilhite

    Three stories on the front, four stories on the front. I

    Kathryn Starkey

    still think those those buildings.

    This building over here is needs to be flipped. But I'll I'll show you a picture here in a second. This building right here is the

    Barbara Wilhite

    one that

    Kathryn Starkey

    Yeah.

    Barbara Wilhite

    The asked uh Commissioner Starkey asked our client if that one can be flipped this way.

    Kathryn Starkey

    To give that road a a street feel.

    Barbara Wilhite

    Let me just show you a couple of things and they might then I'm gonna let them jump up here and ask answering your questions and show off their project. Um these are these The required buildings. We have four options of how we do those. I'm doing a terrible job with those. Maybe I do need to let them let them come up here.

    When we talked about mixed use buildings when I started working with staff and how to write the conditions, I said let's show it and let's show the different ways that we can do mixed use integrated for these buildings. And I learned a lot because there's actually different ways to do it. I we always think of just retail on the flo retail, one story, and then we put our apartments above it. But my team pointed out there are retailers that want to be two stories. So that's what you're seeing in the second option and option B. And there's four of those. And we have to be one of

    these options. So how we become binding is the fact that we have to do two mixed-juice buildings, 15,000 square foot maximum minimum, and we have to comply with one of these four building types. So that's that's how we bring our site plan to life. Yeah.

    I'll let anybody wants to get up here, Steven?

    Uh huh.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    So so we we're the developer, we're a um family company that's need to put your your name from the immediately. I'm Steven Stover from ECI Groups. I'm the Vice President of Development. Um

    Oh uh twelve thirty one Pebble Creek Road, Marietta, uh Georgia. Um so uh one of the questions was about we want to make sure that we're getting what we're presenting here. Um You know, we're we own our projects long term. Um we still own projects we built in Pasco County twenty-some years ago. Um we have a development division that I represent, uh as well as a general contracting division and a management division. So Um we spent a long time working through this plan because what we're

    proposing is what we want to build. And so rather than just showing a bunch of pretty pictures, we'd gather feedback from different folks and then we'd go to work with our consultants. experts on commercial leasing and layouts um to make sure that what we're presenting is what we can build and it will function and it will lease. So a lot of time was put um into this. We we proffered four different flavors of how the retail and the buildings would our the mixed use buildings would um look and feel and function. And

    then our site plan as well, if I can go back to our site plan. You know, here too, um, you know, we got a lot of great recommendations. Our plan did start very differently than what you're seeing here. And at every different turn and iter iteration, You know, we've tried to make it better and also still a functioning you know, financeable project. Um, you know, we've added a central green that is open to the public, will be open to the public. Our every intention is to program that and

    make that a great space. That's our front door. uh for the rest of the um residential um residents. So it really matters to us that that retail and commercial is really cool and interesting. Um, you know, we have every intention to build what we're showing here. We've laid it out. Um, you know, and if approved today, you know, our next step is to move into full design and permitting of of what you're seeing here. We've laid out the retail mixed-use buildings very intentionally. We've turned them inboard rather

    than running them along the street, the island boulevard like you typically see commercial, in order to create kind of a main street feel, as opposed to highway retail going down the side of a road. So we're really kind of hoping that those two commercial buildings really support each other as well as the central group. Green to kind of pull people into the site who may live across the street or just be driving by. It's not a gated community. We've enhanced the connectivity to the northern parcels so

    if and when they d um get redeveloped that there's two easy points of connection. Spent a long time trying to figure out how to make that front north south road a straight line um so that folks who live north If they want to just drive through as quickly as possible, they can go directly south to the public site and hopefully drive by and see our commercial node and maybe want to stop off and visit that coffee shop or or restaurant. So um we have spent a long time we you know or

    Kathryn Starkey

    golf cart or

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    golf cart, excuse me, or hot. Yeah, and from uh uh

    Kathryn Starkey

    pedestrian trail.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yeah, I be you know, and we support the um interpar

    So you know, both along Island Boulevard where we extend the trail that um The county and state have invested a lot of money to build. further south of our site and along fifty four. Um but we also want that connection directly to the shopping center without folks having to go onto the public right of way and thus create more traffic and hopefully, hopefully bike or walk. Um, you know, so we've we've we've been working on this for some time. Uh we've dramatically changed the plan. We think it's better. Uh you know, it's great

    feedback we got from a lot of different folks over the past year and some. Um and I'm happ we're happy to elaborate further. I don't know if I answered some of your questions or concerns.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Well

    I my only concern is that you turn that north building to um front, that internal road. Um to give it more of a sense of place, you know, or more walkable instead of you're walking by parking lots. It's I think it'd just be nicer. Um But also now that I'm looking here Once you get How how would your residents walk or bike to the grocery store? Would it just

    be in the in the street?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    No, I think we're gonna have sidewalks throughout. This is just kind of uh uh indicative. Yeah, this was uh site plan. And um

    In terms of that building turning, you know, I I I recognize your comment. I we I hope you believe we're flexible and open minded. If you if you send me what you're thinking, absolutely happy to Re jigger it with our architects and civil engineers.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Can you show that picture that I emailed you, Sonia? Um I found uh I couldn't I don't know how to make that little man get on my map and make it

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Street View guy.

    Kathryn Starkey

    I uh yeah, my Street View guy's not showing up uh uh in this area. Um so maybe it's too new. I don't know, but I did find a site plan of what I was talking about. And this is much more commercial than what you have. Um But uh so and Clark I was wondering if you saw this. So Um where it says Honey, Grace, Beauty and Spa, that's the storage facility, but at the whole bottom is retail commercial. Um and I'll I look forward to getting you a little

    bit more. What what happened? Can you go back? I don't know what happened. Um But and then there's the apartments in the back. So do you see how those apartments are along that internal street?

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yeah, that that way.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Yeah, and um it's just it's just a better feel to walk by the front of your building than to be walking by a parking lot if you're got this north south movement from these people from the north coming to the south. So um

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yeah, you can absolutely take a look at that.

    Kathryn Starkey

    I I'm gonna try and get more fixed. Jeff, do you ever go down to Lakewood Ranch when you're down there?

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    Well this is the Sar Sarasota portion of Lakewood Ranch. Oh,

    Kathryn Starkey

    it's in both counties?

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    It's actually three DRIs that go from State Road sixty four all the way down um the the Sarasota component was mostly commercial industrial for years. I don't know whether they allowed any residential down there. The manatee side was all residential and

    Kathryn Starkey

    Well I don't I don't I don't know where the lines are but I just thought we drove we drove through here 'cause my husband we had a potty stop. And um and and the project looked so good, my husband and I just kept dri driving around a little bit, but I thought the layout was pretty pretty good. So

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    We we're always looking for analogs of how we can make things great. And so I I I mean it sincerely v Absolutely we'll look at it.

    Kathryn Starkey

    And I I just to be sure and I'm sure your people know this, um Since I have kind of a little bit of a restaurant. Um you just need to be sure on those commercial sites that they have way to

    trash inventing. Trash. And uh And the wheel and the beer and all that.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Absolutely. Stocking. Yeah. So if you uh if you notice, yeah, the back part of each of those, the reason why it's I mean we laid it out for a Main Street Vibe, but um there will be pathways from the back, and so we'll have that back of a house going on that back. That way you can park a truck on the back side.

    Because we're gonna hold you to this, right? Or close to it.

    I hope you hold us and others to what we're showing ya. I I I mean it's in terms

    Ron OakleyChair

    of

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    two

    Ron OakleyChair

    commercial sites you're showing. Sorry. They're three story.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Uh so the front two buildings are three story buildings. The ground floor is the right-of-way. So they

    Ron OakleyChair

    could have uh commercial on two floors and then apartments on the third floor.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yeah, and just so we can see it more visually, you know, we We actually had our architect put together a f a few different flavors of what this could be. We want some flexibility so that we can accommodate different users. So, you know, a typical mixed-use building, this is again three stories, the back buildings are four, but you know, there was a concern about having four-story buildings kind of overwhelming Island Boulevard. So these three-story buildings along the front. You know, can have ground floor retail. It'll be on the hard corner,

    turning up island, but mostly going to create a main street vibe. Um we could do, you know, we we've laid out a different option that's two-story. Some folks want much higher ceilings. Um Like breweries and that type of thing. There's different types of users that prefer that. Um you know another option we were s we were studying like uh Commissioner Starkey was saying, we're studying a project near where we live and they had a three-story structure. We thought that a separate two-story With a three-story next door would look kind of weird, but

    we found an example that we really liked. And so we proffered as well kind of a two-story with with adjacent three-story um multifamily as an option as well, based on an example that we saw that we thought worked really well. That was a another brewery concept. That would be a rooftop component too, wouldn't it? Correct, yes. So that's nice.

    Yeah. So I had to convince her fr uh, you know, uh rooftops can be difficult to manage, elevators stocking, all the other reasons we've talked about, but it to be hon i if you know, if we could, that would be the option we'd prefer. We're not in the brewery business, so You know, we we can't proff what you know businesses we don't run. But we we're seeking flexibility and we're also showing you clearly what we're intending to do, not You know, here's a bunch of pretty pictures and then we're gonna go change it. That's

    really not our intention in general. And we we'd like in five years. Y'all say we'd love for ECI to do more projects in this area because of what you guys have done. So we're we're long term reputation focused uh developers.

    Kathryn Starkey

    projects that enhance our community. The one at Gun Highway in 54. this one and I appreciate because I've been through it with some of my applicants, the time it takes. I appreciate all your time. Um but I think we when you start massaging these and making sure they know we want a sense of place, we want something that builds community. that um that we can do it and we can get there. So uh this is a very nicely laid out project. I I I'm happy to vote for it. Well thank

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    yes, Commissioner Weightman I'm sorry.

    Jack Mariano

    Okay. Go ahead and make a state.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    I was just gonna say Commissioner Weightman asked a lot of us and collaborated and I you know w um I think the project's better. Yeah that's right. So uh you know m multifamily is not everyone's favorite thing to talk about and uh uh he pushed us to make this project better over you know a long time and You know, I'll be I'm honest what I'm saying. I I think the project is better as a result. And um it's been real collaborative.

    Jack Mariano

    I mean I get the feeling you've been hit from from all angles here. And uh and I tell you, you know, coming up to this we we've got a lot of heat from a lot of apartments in the whole area. Uh a lot of different things. This product is a lot different. Uh I'm glad you've listened to a lot of things that that we've said and go through. Um and just giving yourself those options I think is smart. Um Barbara and I were talking even right beforehand about how much room you could do as far as the retail and the commercial go. And I'd like to see I like I like that that you need the options to figure out what you're gonna go do with it, but I wanna make sure

    we hold you to what you've got here as well. But I want to make sure we give you flexibility too. Let's say you want to take the commercial and just even you get a few people that say, you know what, let's go stretch it further and go that way. I want you to be able to go instead of just even being locked at fifteen thousand to go If you want to go to thirty, go to thirty with a trade off with the units.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yeah, I'm I you know I I it's beyond my pay grade for what we can and can't do, but I I'm I typically in that scenario I would come back to you and say, Hey, we have good news. There's a com there's a retail tenant are coming out of the woodworks and we want to do more. It's actually uh more profitable if it works in that scenario. Um, you know, I think today it's been a long road. We've been working on this for Over a year, um, you know, I think we would s seek approval uh still

    today, but and then come back

    Jack Mariano

    So keep my I'm not trying to not say to the approval. What I'm trying to do is if we can build the flexibility now. To go give you that and if if it takes a matrix to go make that happen, then we can incorporate that today so you can go forward. I don't want to slow you down, but I want to make sure that again if I can get more commercial retail and it works for you guys to be to be be viable. Everything you've created here, the interconnectivity, the the great aura that a lot of people I think from that mall they're gonna go shopping at the mall and they're gonna wanna come up there and probably have lunch or something else right along that way. So

    I I I see that happening. And and coming from the north whenever that does come, it's gonna go too. So I I I like what you're doing. I just want to make sure that if there's a way that you need to to go expand the commercial, we have that flexibility to put in there.

    Ron OakleyChair

    A minimum, maximum fifteen thousand.

    Barbara Wilhite

    Yeah, it's Barbara Will Hight. I was just conferring with um I don't know Terry's title anymore. But I'm a planning director. Um so it sounds like to do that we need to just add language to our sub area policy that allows us to have a land use equivalency matrix in our MPUD, and then we'll add language to the MPUD that allows for that land use equivalency matrix. not to go from anything non-residential to residential, but to be able to go residential to non-residential. So if you want to include that in your

    motion. Did you you'd add it to the sub-area policy, the uh to have a land use acquaintancy matrix in the MPUD? And that's how we could accomplish that.

    Kathryn Starkey

    For example, So those bottom ones along how do you say that? Eland or Island?

    Ron OakleyChair

    Island. Island.

    Kathryn Starkey

    Like it's an island? Island.

    They could be kind of like a flex base or live work kind of um situation. So I would definitely want to Give you the flexibility. to let the market kinda say what those bottom ones are. So However Barbara puts it, we'll vote on it. Gotta get the wording right.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    And we were actually gonna build, you know, uh additional spaces a little bit further back that could that are intended to be lived with

    Kathryn Starkey

    wherever you want 'em to be.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yeah, yeah.

    Kathryn Starkey

    We want to give you that flexibility.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yeah, as you get further deeper into the site, commercial gets harder to be viable. Uh along the frontage um you know, we just have to look at it a little bit more. We we put a lot of time and effort into making sure that what we programmed um can function and lease and as backup house and how do you take the trash out, um those types of things.

    Kathryn Starkey

    My fellow board members may not know what a live work is. So a live work is is when the bottom space is flexible to be commercial. or office. Um in Seaside there's art galleries and stationery shops and bakeries and things that are on the first floor and then they live above.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Yeah, and particularly in the kind of the Zoom world, um that's become in before the eighties they started that.

    Jack Mariano

    What? They started that before the eighties.

    Ron OakleyChair

    We're we got futuristic look.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    Oh you know, uh our intention um d I don't know how how did you do with the uh were you highlighted somewhere?

    Barbara Wilhite

    Scary when I'm showing it.

    Unidentified speakerVoice C

    You know, so thank you. So our intention for the building right there, it's a little bit in right there. So imagine you're driving in, there's commercial right here. Um, you know, we want to build out this space here on this corner with patio space. It's shown as green space. This is just an indicative rendering, but we kind of want this to be outdoor seating. this to be outdoor seating. So imagine you're driving by. We want pops of color and people saying, Wow, what's going on in there? I should drive in and check it out. Now this is

    kind of a one way road um intentionally so that if you make the commitment, we've captured your attention and you drive in, now you have to drive all the way around this circle and pass both of our retail. So again, we're trying to ensure that The first step is to get somebody to get co-in into your development. The next step is to get them to drive past your retail. The final step is to get them to actually get out of their car. We have parking along the roadways as a result. We're employing a lot of good retail, you know, best practices. We'd love to limit the amount of

    um tall landscaping. We'd like lower flowering plants on these hard corners. We'd like taller landscaping back to screen. The multifamily from Island Boulevard. It's you know, it's it's more of a code thing we can talk with as we get into the LDP and the building permit process. But as you're driving here, these ground floor units, you know, we're intending to have direct access for these two corner units and these two. Um, we'd build that unit a little bit differently, it'd be a different layout than you'd typically see, so that somebody could have a front office

    that could be able to. normally we build, you know, like your home, you want an open floor plan where your kitchen is visible to your living room, everybody can hang out and interact. And that those type of units you You don't want your business client to be able to see your kitchen and maybe you didn't do the dishes and that type of thing. So, you know, um Uh okay. Probably enough information. I'm sorry.

    We're we're very quick hearing and we don't want to spend a lot of time. Yeah, we got we spent a lot of time thinking through this plan.

    Ron OakleyChair

    No one signed up for the item. Does anyone in the audience wish to speak to this item? Mr. Chairman Mariano, pleasure of the board.

    Jack Mariano

    I'm gonna just compliment and just reiterate. So from what I hear you said as far as that landscaping goes, in front of the residential part it's gonna be heavy, taller landscaping, but down in front of the retall you want to lower so people can see you from the roadway? Okay. Thank you.

    Seth Weightman

    Okay.

    I guess move move approval with uh what's the

    Kathryn Starkey

    conditions we set today?

    Seth Weightman

    Yeah, sub-area policy and then we need to say something about binding in option A, B, C, and and D.

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    How do we So you can handle that in the M P U D, I think

    Barbara Wilhite

    would be the appropriate. That's actually already bound into the M PUD, those four that are attached.

    Unidentified speakerVoice B

    Okay.

    Barbara Wilhite

    So we just need that land use exchange land language in our sub area policy.

    Ron OakleyChair

    All right. Place for motion.

    Barbara Wilhite

    Second.

    Ron OakleyChair

    And a second. My roll call vote.

    Kathryn Starkey

    District two, Commissioner Weightman. Aye. District three, Commissioner Starkey.

    Ron OakleyChair

    Aye.

    Kathryn Starkey

    District four, Commissioner Bradford. Aye. District five, Commissioner Mariano. Aye. District 1, Chairman Oakley. Aye.

    Ron OakleyChair

    Motion pass 5-0.

    Gary BradfordVice Chair

    Yeah.