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1. 1May 23, 2023
   Board of County CommissionersP62Public hearingNo disposition in the minutes

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   Keith

   1:21:11Oh so which I'm sorry, for clarification, we're doing sixty two. All right, so we're doing the comp plan first. Okay. Okay, let me switch up here. I thought we were doing the workshop first. My apologies. Is there any way we can do the workshop first? I would prefer to do the workshop first. Let's do P sixty two. Do we have proof? I really want to.

   Starkey

   1:21:32All right. So P sixty two we have proof. Uh is advertised in the Tampa Bay Times april sixteenth, twenty twenty three.

   Keith

   1:21:41I am so comfortable now. Thank you. Thank you. I and so you'll it makes sense. So all right, so this is the second workshop dedicated to defining extraordinary circumstances, necessitating the need for the parks and recreation impact fee increase to exceed the phase-in limitations in sections 163.

   1:22:05So just a quick recap of the statutes. Obviously, um this statute limits impact fee increases up to 50% unless you demonstrate the extraordinary circumstances. The purpose of this workshop is to demonstrate that. It does allow uh the local government to exceed it again if you actually have demonstrated the extraordinary circumstances. The impact fee study is the demonstration of those circumstances. We do need to adopt the impact fee increase by at least two-thirds vote of the board. So legal parameters just basically

   1:22:36for the general public, impact fees must be collected and used to cover the cost of expanding infrastructure. They cannot be used for the maintenance or non-capacity improvements, so no deferred maintenance. Only those who benefit from the expansion can be holders held responsible for the cost of said expansion. New users are not required to finance replacing public facilities or bringing them up to standard. Again, no use for maintenance. Uh you must have a plan, so we do have a plan, we have a 2022 to 2045 capital plan, and fees must be based on a level of service relative to

   1:23:06existing conditions. So back in April, we presented this to the Planning Commission. After we presented last fall to the BCC as a request to proceed with the adoption that the Board approved at that time, we presented to the Planning Commission. The Planning Commission did find that they did not believe there was no extraordinary circumstances to justify the increase. I think you all understand what the impacts of that would mean. Obviously, that would significantly reduce the amount of revenues being presented. By the increase to date. So would ultimately hamper the county's ability to

   1:23:36fund the capital plan. Okay, so Here's again overview of the of the extraordinary circumstances. The fee hasn't been adopted since 2002. We all know the cost of construction materials have increased. Uh facility need is based on concurrency requirements. Basically, you're looking at a budget, total budget with inflationary uh increases around $280 million. It's obviously necessary to make sure that we have all that stuff in place. To ensure the fees cover the cost, in the impact fee

   1:24:06study, we selected Alternative 2 as the recommendation, which include the inflationary adjustments over the life of the capital plan. Statute does require the calculation. of the impact fee is based on the most recent and localized data, which the study does support. Statute does require that the impact fee is reasonably connected to the needs generated by growth. That's the whole purpose of what we're trying to do here. So this map shows basically all the existing level of service for the parks that are in the ground to date. So you see blue, that's the level of service areas defined by

   1:24:36five miles drive time on existing roads, a lot of white space. The red is basically what would be funded through the through the through this fee as well as the capital plan. So as you see, what we're trying to do is we're trying to close the gap on level of service for parks throughout the county through 2045. Again, I think you're all well aware of what this graph is. This is just the producer price index for commodity and construction materials. Still seems to be climbing, climbing. Uh we actually got an email from the county administrator wanting to to compare engineers'

   1:25:07estimates to um to the actual cost, and I think that we're getting close, but at the end of the day, uh the costs are still basically skyrocketing. It's an issue. This is the most important slide, I think. So in demonstrating extraordinary circumstances. So Lock your mind on the number 42. Number 42 is important because currently, right now, underneath the existing fee, The parks department generates about three and a half million annually in revenue across three districts for parks projects, new capacity projects. It would take approximately forty two years.

   1:25:37to build the plan that we presented if we stayed at the existing rate. So that's about funding a uh si you know, a park every seven to ten years. That's a pretty long time. I think most kids would actually grow up in the houses and move on and then we'd be probably building parks for you know for their kids, I think at the end of the day. Information I think you're all well aware of. This is just uh the population growth and census data that I think uh that PDD presents to you guys quite often. Just a quick overview on the current parks uh department funding

   1:26:08sources. So General Ops is basically funded out of the general fund at around $20 million. impact fee as I just disclosed. General fund for capital and is basically um we go through the capital process like a lot of other departments that are in the general fund and it's as money as available. So currently we have no outside of the impact fee We have no funding source other than impact fees and requesting uh money through the general fund. Current feed currently sits at eight hundred $891 for

   1:26:38single family, $627 for multifamily. We are recommending going to a single dwelling unit um and it's a It's a it's a substantial increase. We're going from $891 to $3,450 per dwelling unit. And again, just to remember that ultimately is addressing a plan that is it's not consumptive based, it's plan. So that is a very high-level summary. Um On the extraordinary w circumstances, to my understanding, you guys do not have to vote on that. It's just a basically a public

   1:27:08workshop. Again, we have the first one with the Planning Commission. Any questions for me?

   MarianoChair

   1:27:14I'll just make one comment, Keith. You know, I think parks are extremely important. Um I think w many years ago and back in I think nineteen eighty six that The board went out and actually spent a lot of money in And built a lot of these parks that we have currently and When we had the downturn the economy back oh seven, um parks got cut thirty percent. And to get caught back up is gonna be tough. The people that are moving in, I'll I'll I'll I'll preface it back to we made a school board board impact fee many years ago and the argument was

   1:27:45and I at the time I was pushing to to cut the impact fee down. to get construction going. And when a lady from Tampa come up and and talked to me about I know you have high impact fees. One of the reasons I want to live in Pasco County, because you understand the importance of these impact fee to let the new growth pay for itself so that schools don't fall behind. Um Clearly we have some issues with what we just saw f few minutes ago at Shady Hills, but Um I think it's something that we need to invest in the parks. I think the more parks we have, the better

   1:28:15the parks are. Keeps kids off the streets, keeps them busy. I always felt that if I the busier I kept my kids at night when it when they're to bed. Um They were they were in pretty good shape from there and um I'm happy to go that way. Commissioner Oakley.

   OakleyVice Chair

   1:28:30When I came on board and was elected in uh

   1:28:35It's been a little over six years ago now. We were twenty About twenty years. With deferred maintenance on on all the recreation parks. And so we had to make that time up but COVID came along and then stopped a lot of things, but actually it allowed us to have um time to rebuild a lot of fields 'cause a lot of things would stop because of of COVID itself. But So we were able to catch up with that. Now with all the growth that we're having in

   1:29:05the county. Um and all the fields that are needed to Have our kids play on fields. And all the developments that are coming along with more and more parks and more recreation areas. We definitely need to jump our game up to to catch up to do the right thing for our s our kids in our county. So Very important.

   Starkey

   1:29:27Well I'll add my two cents. So um I moved here almost thirty-two years ago. And The last park built. West of Collier Parkway. Before I moved here. was Veterans Park.

   1:29:47There there has not been a park. Until Starkey in the thirty two years that I moved here, west of Collier Parkway.

   OakleyVice Chair

   1:29:56Yeah.

   Starkey

   1:29:59It's crazy. Crazy. Crazy.

   MarianoChair

   1:30:01Commissioner Starkey when that park opened up, we did the grand opening, which was phenomenal. Um it was just a spectacle how great that place was. I get complaints from Little League saying, Where's my Little League field? So there's still as much as we've made making improvements, there's still a lot more to be done. Yeah.

   Starkey

   1:30:18Well Starkey's not even done yet, so

   OakleyVice Chair

   1:30:22we're there.

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:30:22We're getting there.

   Starkey

   1:30:25So then we move on to what?

   Unidentified speakerVoice A

   1:30:27No, this is a this is a public workshop, so you need to take public comment. Okay, any public comment

   MarianoChair

   1:30:32on P sixty two? Which one? And the one line for P search each other. Okay. All right. Now we'll go close that. Now we'll go to P sixty one.