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Zoning Amendment (Consent) - Trinity Corporate Center – Change in Zoning from I-1 Light Industrial Park District to an MPUD Master Planned Unit Development District – Southwest and south-central Pasco County – on the south side of State Road 54 and north side of Trinity Boulevard, bisected by Corporate Center Drive – Containing Approximately 65 Acres (PC: 01/21/2021, 1:30 p.m.; NPR or Hybrid Virtual Meeting, BCC: 02/09/2021, 1:30 p.m.; DC or Hybrid Virtual Meeting) File Number 21-7518

District 3

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Staff recommendation

Approval with Conditions

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The county’s agenda for Planning Commission, Jan 21, 2021

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The county’s minutes for Planning Commission, Jan 21, 2021

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Denise

Okay, great. Mr. Chair, Denise Hernandez, Planning and Development. Today we have item PC one, which is the only item on your agenda. It's a consent item. It's a zoning amendment, PDD 217518 for Trinity Corporate Center, Trinity Corporate Center MPUD for a change in zoning from I-1 Light Industrial Park District to a Master Plan Unit Development District. And uh this is for um to allow the continuation of light industrial and support retail uses on 62.81,

approximately 62.81 acres. Comes to you with a recommendation of approval with conditions as included in your agenda packet, and we're here for any questions you may have. The a the county is the applicant on this item, so it's a staff initiated by the county.

Charles GreyChair

Okay. Mm-hmm. Anybody else from the county need to speak on this item?

Denise

Um unless you have any questions for us, we're here we're happy to answer any questions for you.

Charles GreyChair

Okay. Uh any questions from the guys or from anyone on the uh WebEx or

Unidentified speaker

Mr.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Chairman Mariano. Yes.

Unidentified speaker

I I just wanted to um state for the record that I I do need to abstain from voting for this 'cause I do have a conflict of interest on this property.

Charles GreyChair

Okay. Thank you. So noted.

Anyone else?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Mr. Mariano question.

Charles GreyChair

All right. Is there anyone here to object?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Mr. Chairman Mariano

Charles GreyChair

Oh I'm sorry, Chris, I didn't hear you.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Go ahead. No problem. Um, I I'd just like some more clarification as to I know we we you know Patrick's been trying to protect um our white industrial spaces. So, you know, with the change with the change, what what does that mean for this area going into the future as far as Well Jesus uh Is it just gonna become a big commercial area or help help me understand that a little more?

Denise

Sure, great. Uh Patrick Dutter is on on here as the staff member who can answer that question for you.

Charles GreyChair

All right, Patrick.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yeah, hi. Uh good afternoon. Um Terry, would would you like to um try to answer that question? I I can if you prefer.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Sorry, I can answer that. All right. Uh Dictarios Pitos Planning Development Department. Right. Um the Trinity Corporate Center is currently zoned I one, uh Euclidean zoning. um with IL future land use. um or it had IL future land use until recently when a comprehensive plan amendment was approved to change it to a plan development. The plan development necessitated this MPUD propo uh proposed amendment that's before you today. The reason for that is

to maintain the industrial status quo of the Trinity Corporate Center and carry that forward into the MPUD. The reason we're doing this is to straighten out a few interpretations that have occurred over the years through the that have occurred through the comprehensive plan, which enabled and allowed additional commercial uses to locate within the Trinity Corporate Center. uh using or borrowing so to speak entitlements from other areas. So in making this a PD and an MPUD, we're essentially enabling and

continuing to allow the con the current industrial status quo for the Trinity Corporate Center, plus the commercial uses that they have there today, such as Uh they have a couple of uses like a hotel's out there. There I think there's a self storage facility. I think And it

small developments. I I I don't remember them all off the top of my head. But this is basically maintaining the status quo.

Charles GreyChair

So you'll be able to approve like retail uses and light industrial uses.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Yes.

Charles GreyChair

Yeah. Chris, does that answer your question?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Um, it does, I guess, is that um and I didn't see, I mean, what's to prevent Just it all turning into commercial. Is that would that happen or are there mechanisms in place whereby that doesn't happen?

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Clary, this is Claire Cobby. If I if I might, this might help the members of the Planning Commission, if that's okay with me with you, Mr. Chairman.

Charles GreyChair

Uh Clark, if you can just state your name and address and be sworn.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Absolutely. Clark Hobby, Hobby and Hobby, PA one oh nine North Brussel Street, Tampa, Florida. I am prepared to be sworn,

Clerk

Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is a true so help you God?

Unidentified speakerVoice D

I do. Thank you. So to answer Chris's question, so the backstory here is that we had an e there was a question about how much square footage was allowed. And uh about ten or twelve years ago in Trinity Corporate Center, because keep in mind I L has always allowed fifteen percent of the land to be used for retail. And we got an interpretation letter Um and so essentially all we're doing now is

confirming the amount of retail that we already thought that we had. And what what David Goldstein brought to our attention some years after the uh opinion letter had been issued and relied upon. is that it was relying on some off-site acreage to create the amount of square footage that we had. And David did not want to be unfair to anybody in the area in question that was off site. So Trinity Corporate Center has always had a retail

component and will continue to have a retail component. There's only three or four unbuilt sites in there, and one of which were under contract for a brewery. which is gonna have a small retail component of it, like a a seating area. But in general, Chris, almost all of the Trinity Corporate Centers already in uh hotel light industrial office or the retail uses that are already out there. I think we have three or four small

parcels left to develop.

Charles GreyChair

Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

So you're not going to see a big up upswing in retail out there because the uses are already accounted for. And I might add, this MPUD does not include what we changed to C O M and C2 on the 54 frontage. It's just the back partial. And again, all we're doing is reconfirming what we thought we had all along on the amount of retail square. Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Chris. Okay, thank you. That's uh that yes, that helps and clarifies my question. Thank you.

Chris Williams

Yeah, Mr. Chairman Mariano while Mr. Hobby's on the right-of-way. I noticed when I went through the documentation that you have down Uh A kennel And A dog a dog can in essence uh referred to the animals in their How does that fit in with the uh other items that were listed on that on your documentation?

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Well, it's we went through and worked with staff on it, and we already have a series of uh deed restrictions that severely limit the number of retail uses that are out there. Our client thinks that, you know, on one of the last couple of parcels, there is a chance that we might have one of these higher-end doggy daycare overnights. We're not we won't have anything that has an Outdoor kennel. proponent to it, but we we would have one that has the possibility of being

almost entirely indoor, but they do have small dog runs that are outside. Do I think that's a likely end user? No, I don't, but Dewey Mitchell, who's the, you know, primary developer of the thing, didn't want to forego that use necessarily on our last couple of partials.

Chris Williams

Okay. Well the wording is dog kenneled. That uh I'm not sure what the the municipal code for a dog count would be, but I think if I have would have concerns about that out there. If it's a if it's as you described it, a basically a kind of a a hotel for pets when people go out of town or need something like that. That that's one situation. But a candle itself I think of more of uh Uh of having places that are more outdoors where dogs

would uh be free to bark or it might be like a uh might be like a dog pound. So

Unidentified speakerVoice D

right. Well I I would point out that it's in the in the list of of uses it says and we were trying to work off how it's worded in C two and C one already. So the way it reads now I think accomplishes your mission and mine, which says animal kernels and I added an additional description and overnight facilities. with indoor and outdoor dog runs, but then it says parenthesis kennels must be indoors. So we're not gonna have any old fashioned outdoor kennels with dogs

barking. That that we would not like that in Trinity Corporate Center.

Chris Williams

That's the only clarification I wanted on it. Thank you.

Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

Mr. Chair.

Charles GreyChair

Yes.

Jaimie GirardiVice Chair

David Goldstein, County Attorney. Um I just wanted to clarify for Mr. Williams' benefit for voting purposes that This MPD the MPD conditions specifically prohibit any residential uses. So I just wanted to make sure he was aware of that before so he actually would not be able to vote on this item. Understood. Thank you.

Charles GreyChair

You can vote, we just won't count it.

Oh shot.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Well he's already trying to get

Charles GreyChair

away.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Well, I figure if I can't vote I might as well just create some issue, right? That's right.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Ted Ted Williams son for you.

Charles GreyChair

That's pr that's true. Peter, those dogs will have masks and be socially distanced. It'll be a

Okay. Any other questions?

If not, do I hear a motion?

Chris Williams

I move to approve.

Charles GreyChair

Okay, we have a motion to approve. Second. Any further discussion?

Mr. Williams is calling in his vote, I guess.

Um okay, no further discussion. All in favor? Signified by roll call saying aye or nay.

Clerk

Jamie Girardi recusing himself from the vote.

Charles GreyChair

Right.

Clerk

Michael Cox.

Charles GreyChair

He's not it right not in.

Clerk

Peter Hansel.

Charles GreyChair

Aye.

Clerk

Roberta Saiz.

Charles GreyChair

Bye.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

I think that's a good thing.

Clerk

And Chairman Charles Gray.

Thank you.

Charles GreyChair

Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. Thank you.

Denise

I do want to mention for the record that we have no one at the kiosk and no one wrote in to comment or request that anything be read into the record on this item. So just for the record.

Charles GreyChair

Thank you. And we have no other items, is that correct?

That's the last that's the only item on your agenda today.