(11 a.m. Time Certain) Presentation - Pasco County Senior Services - Feeding Pasco's Elderly

1:08:10Okay. Um thanks Bill. Next we uh are gonna go to R seventy nine, which is our eleven AM time certain. Uh Commissioner Weightman to your item.

1:08:21Thank you, Madam Chairman Mariano. Let me just fix the microphone then. Some additions here. Okay.

1:08:28Bill, I I don't know if you want to hear the band pool at uh and and Mike just this may I'd like you you to hear about this so you can tell businesses when they're re okay. This won't take it.

1:08:40Well thank you Madam Chair. Um you know our our last commission meeting we had a discussion In reference to a feeding TMA Bay, we also had a uh it ended up having a deeper discussion into um our senior services and feeder feeding Pasco's utterly. So what I'd like to do to bring Brian Hoban up here first. He's gonna do a presentation. Then I have um our tax collector Senator Mike Fassano here. I also have property appraiser Mike Wells here as well on behalf of feeding. Hasgows elderly, which

1:09:11gonna give a presentation of what they've been doing in reference to that. And then, you know, I'd like to kind of let them keep going before we chime in because once they're done, I also have a small presentation. I have a video that I would like to show in reference to the site that Feeding Team of Bay is attempting to put up in Hillsborough County.

1:09:30Thank

1:09:30you,

1:09:31Madam Chair.

1:09:32Might.

1:09:33Good morning, members of the board. Brian Hovind, Director of Community Services. Also joined this morning by Tom Snee, our Senior Services Manager. And we're going to talk a little bit about the Senior Services Division, our home delivered meals program, as well as the food insecure wait list of seniors in Pasco County that is owned by the Department of Elderly Affairs.

1:09:53So as I mentioned, um there is a wait list of approximately four hundred and eleven food insecure seniors in Pasco County Attorney. That wait list is owned by the Department of Elderly Affairs. And Senior Services takes their Amer Older Americans Act funding from area agency to remove seniors off of that food insecure list and provide home-delivered meals. Clients requesting home delivered meals through either Pasco County Senior Services or Area Agency on Aging are screened

1:10:23with an assessment tool and then placed on that wait list based off of a priority scoring system. That scoring system takes into account items such as financials, health care issues, transportation issues. It's an overall assessment of how food and secure a senior is. Then um we work that wait list to provide uh our services and home delivered meals to the most food and secure seniors here in the county. Clients on that wait list are reassessed annually by area agency to capture any status changes and to keep that list as up-to-date

1:10:53as possible.

1:10:57And as of January 1st of this year, there is a uh meal rate of eight dollars and one cents per meal. So for us to serve a single senior off of that wait list, you would multiply that meal rate by uh the number of meals per week that we provide each senior, which is seven meals per week, and then of course multiply that by the number of weeks in a year, which gives you an annual cost of $2,916 to remove a senior off of that Department of Elderly Affairs wait list. We say that that's an annual cost because once

1:11:27we serve a senior off that wait list, we serve them for a life. We provide services to them until we hit one of a few categories of attrition, which we'll talk about shortly.

1:11:38Madam Chair?

1:11:39Uh

1:11:39yeah. I I apologize just for a second. Is that eight oh one is that for a full day's meals? Or is it just one meal? One meal. One meal,

1:11:47okay.

1:11:49Uh so 411 was the the wait list that we approximated. We mentioned that already. So just given kind of the overall picture there, uh multiplying that by the annual cost there, you're looking at around $1,198, uh excuse me, $1,198,328 to go ahead and deplete that wait list that we have as of today. It's important to mention that that wait list is a snapshot in time. Uh you see that As of January of this year, we've had 330 clients have been added to the wait list and 390 have

1:12:19been removed. So when we talk about a 411 individual wait list, you see that there is a lot of attrition, but there's also a lot of growth at the same time. So it is a snapshot we could serve that amount of clients today, and tomorrow we could have 425 clients on that wait list. Placing, you know, I mentioned this already, placing a client on the wait list from the wait list onto active home delivered meal services is a lifetime subscription because we do serve that client annually until they either end up in a self-care facility, move out of the area,

1:12:50or for the remainder of their life we serve that client. We've served clients home delivered meals for 15, 20, 25 years, depending on the client.

1:13:00Well. So since January 1st of this year, we've averaged about a 19% attrition rate. We've had a 9% growth rate. We do leverage multiple funding sources. One of which that I would like to talk about is FPE or Feeding Pasco's Elderly. They are a not-for-profit 501 locally here in Pasco County. That's mission is to help feed food and secure seniors. They do a lot of fundraising and we work with them on a quarterly basis and

1:13:30they have been a great partner at helping us feed those food insecure seniors on that particular Department of Elderly Affairs wait list. So much so that we use their funding to gap the service of moving these clients from a wait list to permanent full-on meals services through senior services. So what that means is Feeding Pasco's Elderly is providing us funding. We're serving 90 individuals right now off of that 411 person wait list, but

1:14:00they don't get removed from the wait list. We don't remove individuals until we can offer them that lifetime service of meals. But the 90 individuals on that wait list that are being served are served on an average from six to eight weeks with the funding that uh Fet Feeding Pasco's Elderly provides us. And again, that provides a gap and provides food to food insecure seniors that otherwise would not have received that those meals or anything until we could put them onto permanent service. They're filling a very big void in the community. and helping us feed a lot of food insecure

1:14:30seniors. Then, of course, we have the effect of the pandemic and one-time funding that has been associated with that. In 2020, the wait list dropped significantly as we received Family First Act funding, CARES Act funding, consolidated coronavirus relief, and American Rescue Plan funding. So we're going to look at a chart that kind of depicts how that has affected the wait list and the services that we've provided. But the also the important thing to remember with that is that a lot of this funding has either been expended or uh does have

1:15:00an expiration date of twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, or twenty twenty five.

1:15:08But here is some historical data as it pertains to the waitlist and what it looks like over the years. I think you'll see a major increase from 2015 to 2020, which probably coincides a lot with our population growth and our growth overall in the county, which would also correlate to the growth of the senior population here in the county. And then in 2020, we had all of those aforementioned coronavirus relief acts and grants and funds that we've utilized to spend down not only the

1:15:38wait list, but also to provide meals through drive-in services as our congregate dining sites were shut down for the pandemic. So as we've got to do that. expended about half of those funding, uh those amounts of funds, and uh get closer to you know ending these temporary funding sources, we're starting to see an increase from twenty twenty one um to current date on that waiting list. So we just wanted to talk about potential options in reducing the current wait list. Of course, we could reallocate

1:16:08one-time revenue to temporarily reduce the current wait list, which would act the exact same way that the funding from Feeding Pasco's Elderly does. It would help us provide meals to food and secure seniors and gap of service until seniors could be placed onto permanent home-delivered meal service. We could reallocate some. and additional recurring revenue to permanently reduce the wait list. And we also do seek additional outside funding sources to either permanently or temporarily reduce it. We work with the county's granting agency,

1:16:38Langton, as well as other partners, not-for-profits and community advocates to raise funding for home-delivered meals and our services.

1:16:49That chart there at the bottom just depicts, based off of that 801 mill rate, uh what it would cost on an annual uh uh on an annual basis to go ahead and remove seniors from that current wait list. $250,000 uh annually would remove eighty-five seniors, half a million dollars would remove one hundred and seventy-one seniors, and one million dollars would remove three hundred and forty two seniors on an annual basis. We currently serve 550 approximately home-delivered meal clients. That's the amount of individuals who

1:17:19are currently on service that we're serving actively today.

1:17:25I have some questions, but I'll see if my board members have any questions first.

1:17:29Um no can we

1:17:31Okay.

1:17:31Well I was gonna say it was gonna be nice if we could we could let Phoenix Pasco Airlines come up too and it could

1:17:37have all courses at the same time. Um a question 'cause I I recall My first experience with this was um When I was first elected and Jack, you were there, I don't think Commissioner Weight and Commissioner Moore were on the board then, but um

1:17:55uh different groups would come up and ask us for money and then we ended up giving it all now to the United Way. Um but We had cut The count the county commission cut the amount of money we were giving to this organization um because we were cutting everything because we didn't have the money that we wanted. Um and that was um when we suggested that, you know, we would hope that the private sector could step up and help fill the gap. So and that was the genesis of feeding Pasco's

1:18:26elderly. I'm very grateful to those people who stepped up to um help do that. Um So, Um What are the requirements and I don't know if you touched on this and I was distracted, what are the requirements to go on that list? Financially.

1:18:43Sure. Um Tom Sneed, Senior Services Manager. Um financially there are no requirements. It is part of it. There's an assessment tool that takes into account your finances, but it plays a much lower impact than it does the actual frailty of the senior on the that's being assessed.

1:19:12Can they take a bath on their own? Um these things of frailty is what will increase that priority score.

1:19:18Yeah, so and ask that question because I had befriended this elderly gentleman who was just absolutely delightful. Um he was a multimillionaire. um lived near near where I lived, um but uh he was on a special kind of diet and and he didn't really cook so he joined this program and was getting meals. which I used to bring him meals as well. Um And so I wonder if since we have s so many, if there if we wouldn't want to look at putting

1:19:49some kind of financial question if if you can afford it or not. If you if you can afford it, should you pay? Um so that we can get those who can't afford it. More more of them off the wait list. And I I'd love to to see it where we had no one on the wait list. And my understanding too is that Um on so on the numbers that you gave us, is that all for the meal delivery or is that also for the lunchrooms?

1:20:13This is only meal delivery and to add to to address one of the questions you brought up, uh since our funding all comes from the Older Americans Act, um they're encouraged to donate if they can afford to, but we cannot mandate a donation. We can't put a sliding scale in place. Now there's other programs as um like community care for the elderly. Um they also serve people in Pasco County and they do have a sliding scale that's run by CARES in Pasco County.

1:20:38And w one other important aspect I think of this program, of course the the the lunchroom one is where people Who don't they're lonely and so I I took my mom there. I was hoping she might volunteer there. Um this is an opportunity for them to talk with other people. And the same happens with the um what with the food delivery is many times that's the only time these these elderly people get to talk to anymore. True. It's very you know, that's another rewarding part of this. So okay. So you wanted

1:21:08to continue with the Yeah if

1:21:10you don't mind if we could bring um Senator Persano and property appraiser wells up as well and they're gonna give us a presentation on um feeding Pascoals early and all the great things they're doing and how they're helping to raise fund for these Food insecure, seniors.

1:21:26This is kind of different. I kinda like it.

1:21:31Good morning.

1:21:34Mike Wells, [address removed]. We don't need to graduate. Um who are good morning, Chairwoman, Starkey and Commissioners. Um I heard Commissioner Starkey talk a little bit about it. Um I've been on the FPE board with Mr. Bassano since 2014. Dr. Mussanu is on the board with us, Sean Foster's on the board, David Lambert. And we have an unbelievable board that does unbelievable things for our seniors in Pasco County and I'm honored to to serve on it. I mean it it is amazing what we do and I have to

1:22:04s take a minute just to give props to Kathy and her team. They are unbelievable what they do. Partnering with us from The start of the Land Lakes Kitchen that was built together as a team with the county, saved the taxpayers a lot of money, were able to help the seniors. And just so you understand the number with the eight dollars per meal is all in with everything. The actual meal is four dollars, which is what FE would pay for. And so that's all in with delivery, which absolutely makes sense. That's the number you all need to see, in my opinion. Um So

1:22:36As you can see, we already have nine people ninety folks on the waiting list.

1:22:42To give you an idea of what that means this fiscal year, that's 14,118 meals that feeding Pasco's Elderly has helped these seniors. Um it's a shame that we still have three hundred plus on a waiting list, but as Brian explained to you, that waiting list is never gonna go away. I had the honor of serving on Area Agency on Aging, which is very connected with this. And I can tell you Pinellas County doesn't have this feeder like we do with this nonprofit. Their waiting list is a heck of a lot longer. So we are blessed

1:23:12to have Feeding Pascoals Utterly. We work very hard. And just to give you an idea, um and I don't know what funding is available, what funding But I can tell you 125,000, you heard Brian talk about the numbers, but $125,000 would feed forty-two seniors for the next two years. figuring the four dollars for the meal that feeding the Pasco's ugly would pay. Um so I think it makes sense there's a lot of need in Pasco and keep in mind and Commissioner Starkey spoke a little bit about it, we don't even advertise this

1:23:42program. What if we did? How many more seniors could we have? And I d honestly I don't think it's a bad idea if we've got maybe seniors that are still food insecure, aren't able to leave their house. Why can't we have maybe an application process at the county level to maybe help these seniors that are missing the gap? Because you You know there's thousands of other seniors that are out there that need assistance and uh I know you all care A lot about 'em and uh so That's I just wanna educate

1:24:12you a little bit about we what we've done and the time we've been as a nonprofit and again we've Honored to be here. Um we want to help, but So I don't know if you have any questions. If not we can let Senator Fasano come up.

1:24:27Good morning. Mike Fasano, Pasco Tax Collector. Um I thank you very much for bringing this issue up. I've lived in Pasco County for 52 years. I grew up with our seniors and I've been blessed to know many of them, many of them no longer here. It's sad that we have uh so many seniors in Pasco County that uh our food insecure. uh that don't know where their next meal is going to come from. We speak to them every day

1:24:57at our tax collector's office because they don't know how they're gonna pay their property taxes.

1:25:04uh that for a simple million dollars plus we can rid ourselves with that. With that wait list. If I'm not mistaken. And I'd like to give you a little history about uh I know that uh an entity from uh Uh from Hillsborough County has come up here and asked for money. And if I'm incorrect, please correct me. And when I read about that in the Tampa Bay Times, I wondered why would we want to do that when we have so many people in Pasco County that need help first? You know

1:25:34there is a uh There was a food bank. On Aaron Cutoff.

1:25:42Volunteer Way. No. Food Bank of Pasco County. Run by Ken Buck many, many years ago. Remember Ken?

1:25:49Yeah.

1:25:50The y between the C D B U grants and uh and and us in Tallahassee we helped build that. In fact Mel Godwin donated that property to build That food bank. It then turned into um Uh I think Melts gave it to uh food bank or harvest food bank it was of Pasco.

1:26:13And I drive past there a lot as I go to my Dade City office and one day I thought, Well, now I see Feeding Tampa Bay is in there, which is great. Great location for them. In fact if you look at the documents you'll find that Harvest the food bank of Pasco gave them that building. Gave him that building. No charge.

1:26:35And then all of a sudden the building is empty and I have all the dates if you want them. I have all the warranty deeds in front of me. I have all the numbers. All of a sudden Feeding Tampa Bay is no longer there. And then after a while I see a private company in there. Private company. a landscaping company. So so I thought, yeah, I gotta check some things out here. Now they may come and tell you a different story

1:27:05and if I do, I apologize. But if I have it correctly, then I'll be corrected. So Mel gave it to Harvest or Food Bank of Pasco. In nineteen ninety six. Harvest of Pasco County, the food bank then turned it over to Tampa Bay, feeding feeding Tampa Bay. uh back in twenty eleven. Again at no charge.

1:27:34Well Feeding Tampa Bay then goes ahead and sells that building that was paid for by taxpayer money. For eight hundred and ninety thousand dollars. Yeah.

1:27:47Well there's our donation.

1:27:50I'd love to know where that money went. Just think of how many people we could have fed in Pasco County. How many seniors?

1:28:02So when Hillsboro County comes up here, anyone comes up here and says we need money. Ask them what they did with the eight hundred and ninety thousand dollars.

1:28:13It's a sad day when our former legislators worked differently and our former county commissioners and present county commissioners work diligently. to help our seniors and others in Pasco County. And tax dollars are being used to build a building to help With those who need a mail. That building's no longer being used for that person purpose. That building was sold.

1:28:39And who knows where those dollars went. So I want to bring that to your attention. And I bring it to your attention because just think again, being repetitious, how many meals we could have helped with our seniors. So as you do the budget, think about think about um Think about that, if you will, before you start giving out dollars to other counties who request it. I don't. Ask 'em some simple questions.

1:29:06Senior Sun, I don't know if anyone's here from Feeding Tampa Bay. Um And, you know, I I have no idea what happened there, but um Uh just feeding feeding Tampa Bay is the organization that supplies all of our food banks with their food just just in just so the public understands

1:29:27who they

1:29:27are. So um in Pasco County's a big recipient. of um the food that they collect from public's it just I think they went to a unified storage facility. To save money, I I um But uh so that's that's what feeding Tampa Bay does.

1:29:48Yes ma'am.

1:29:49Although they're I think they're branching out into other things as well.

1:29:52I'm sure though, Madam Chair, would you agree with me? That when a building is built by taxpayer dollars, it shouldn't be sold to a private entity.

1:30:00Yeah, I d I don't I that's concerning to me.

1:30:03Yes.

1:30:03Um and until we get an understanding, you know, that could be considered maybe our d portion of Paying for part of the building in Hillsborough. Right.

1:30:13But why do they give up the building? If if they have a building in Hillsborough and they need a building, why would they sell a building in Pasco County?

1:30:19Well I'm I'm again I'm not sure I'm qualified to speak for them, but I'm guessing they went to a centralized distribution to save money. That's just my business.

1:30:30But I don't think that's a good question.

1:30:31But again, it's not my decision, but is a taxpayer of Pasco County

1:30:33Administrator.

1:30:34Former legislator who helped get those dollars to build that facility, I would love to know the answers, and of course, as tax collector. I'm not going to collect money now I I guess I should be happy I'm collecting money on that building because there's a private company in

1:30:47there. But

1:30:48I'd sooner collect money from a non profit or not collect any money from a nonprofit than collect money from a building from a company that was using a building that was paid for by taxpayers.

1:30:58And Madam Chairman I think over the years it would have been more beneficial to keep an extra location in Pasco County.

1:31:04Well I think that's you know we may see one day the need is so big that we'll have one here, but um let's see this video uh because I'm keeping these gentlemen over here.

1:31:14Well, Madam Clerk. Yeah, I I do, but I thank you, Senator Sonic. Thank you. God bless you all. Have a great day.

1:31:21Same here.

1:31:22You might want to stick around just for a minute if you're okay with that. Okay. And thank you, property prayer wells, for coming up and obviously Brian and the team for everything that you're doing. But go ahead and cue that video off

1:31:32because on on a question, when is your next Next um breakfast. Do we have one scheduled yet? In October. Okay. Well we'll make sure we advertise it from here. Yeah.

1:31:43He'll make

1:31:44sure we go.

1:31:44I

1:31:44always

1:31:44go. Well before I play the video too, I don't know if you guys um saw it or not, but we um C seventy two on this morning's consent was forty one thousand six hundred dollars for feeding Tampa Bay and the C D B out of C D B G funding. So we did make a contribution today to feeding Tampa Bay. Um and that's actually gonna support groceries on the go, which will be used for food vouchers issued to Premier High. We had somebody from here this morning for Premier Healthcare to assist with access to healthy fruits and vegetables. It's once a week for a six-month period.

1:32:15Um so there was a contribution made today through Pasco County. But if you could play the video and let me explain the video um a little bit, what you're gonna see in the video is um from a meeting in Hillsborough County um initially when they started bringing this up. Now this was I think initially brought up to Hillsborough County for a request for funding back in I think November of last year. Uh they voted on it In March of this year. And Kathy, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think we even heard about a request until March of this year

1:32:45ourselves. Um, so they asked asked them quite some um time before. But okay, so I'm gonna play these two cliffs. It's the March 2nd Hillsborough County Commission meeting where they allocated five million dollars, but they've allocated their five million dollars to the facility through their federal American rescue plan, which was our funding, not from their general fund. Go ahead, Flynn, please.

1:33:12It'd be best if we had sound.

1:33:16And Madam

1:33:17Chair, I

1:33:18think Well can we play this before we're we're in the middle of playing a video and it's

1:33:21delayed. Well I was just gonna ask the and if they can confirm, didn't we also provide an additional eight hundred thousand dollars of of our care funds, CARES funds to feeding Tampa Bay?

1:33:33That's a good question.

1:33:36If we can get sound, that'd be awesome.

1:33:42Okay here.

1:33:48I think we practiced this, right? Because we said it

1:33:51working.

1:34:01While we're waiting on this, are is there someone here about the van pool?

1:34:04Yes.

1:34:05Okay, good.

1:34:10You what?

1:34:12Okay. Well just you're you're just be ready, you're up next because I holding people here and I want them to m I want to make sure they know about this.

1:34:25Okay.

1:34:26Well are we gonna I mean

1:34:27why don't you just tell us well you kinda just said it they they funded it from the RPA fund.

1:34:32Yeah but that's not what I wanted to show.

1:34:33Okay.

1:34:34Do you do you have the

1:34:34dialogue?

1:34:35We sent this this past week and it was supposed to be working.

1:34:39Well do you want to send the video to all of us, the link?

1:34:41Well it it'd be nice for the public to see it as well and the people that are in the audience. This is why I send things ahead of time.

1:34:51Jesus Christ.

1:34:56And I you know, the the sound is unblocked down here on the left, so

1:35:06Did we not did we try this before this morning? Is my question. Because we sent it in plenty of time.

1:35:20Yeah, there's nothing.

1:35:24Can s can you transcribe or do you recall?

1:35:27Oh I have a call. I have it I have it right here. Okay. But it would be nice if you heard it from the horse's mouths versus me trying to explain something that they said because I'd rather you hear it from them. Well, okay, during the presentation to the commission, both the county administrator and the chief financial administrator said that this feeding Tampa Bay facility that is we have a request for funding for will include job training opportunities for Hillsborough County residents. I mean, okay. So again, we're about helping or helping the entire region, entire community. At

1:35:58the same time, do we need to take t uh again, two hundred fifty thousand dollars out of our general fund to go to a facility that's gonna do job train training in another county? I don't see us asking um for our job training centers anymore. Hillsboro County or Pinellas County or s or Hernando County anymore to contribute to that. We're we're they're train we're training Pasco County residents. That's where the funding should come from and that's where it should go. So You know, that's one of the things you know I

1:36:28was bringing up last time, which I had some concerns about. Senator Persano brought up some things today that we have additional concerns about. Um, you know, is it appropriate for federal government to provide funding for it, which they did? Sure. Is it uh appropriate for the Florida legislature to provide funding for that facility? Probably. There was an ask, but it didn't go through. Um appropriate for Hillsborough County and the city of Tampa to provide funding? For sure. It's gonna provide job training for their citizens in that county. Is it appropriate for private

1:36:58donations? Sure, that's where they get a lot of their money from. But it's not appropriate for Pasco County citizens to pay for a facility in another county that's going to provide job training for the citizens of that county. Let's keep the money here, our taxpayer money here in Pasco County for the citizens that pay their taxes. So we want to do job, let me continue for one second. We want to do job training. here. Well we'll put money towards job training. But to make it simple, we do again like I said last time do we want to set a precedent for years to come and have a lap line outside this door. Again,

1:37:28I'm leaving and this I have six meetings left. But the last thing I want to do is have the commissioners are going to be sitting here after me have to worry about other people coming and say we do capital projects outside of this of outside of Pasco County and help fund them for something that's not gonna benefit. I had a great conversation with the CEO of Speeding Tampa Bay. I took his meeting last week. And I told him, I said, if initially you would have asked For funding for meals themselves. and showed me where those meals were going to assist

1:37:58those Pascoal County residents, I probably would have said yes. But there's no way in the world I'm ever going to say yes to a capital project in another county. That's going to provide services that aren't going to benefit the citizens of Pasco County. So again, so based on that discussion that we had last time, based on the discussion that we're happening today, you know, I'm making a motion now to reallocate that $125,000 to either feeding Pascoals Elderly or to senior services. Because if this is a one-time, you mean you're saying it can't be reoccurring, then the money can go

1:38:28to feeding Pascoals Elderly to assist that. Yeah, tw two years, but we can only allocate one year. Um or it goes strict to senior service and we know that money's gonna go in there. I'm good with either one.

1:38:39Commissioner Moore, but what and I have no idea you know, I would hope that this would not be the repercussion and I I don't think it's pay to play, but A large percentage of the foods that they collect in that general distribution center comes to Pasco County. So um would you suggest that they don't participate in bringing that food up to one community now, volunteer way? All the all um Metropolitan Ministries, that's where they get

1:39:09their food

1:39:10bank

1:39:10food from. But we're not paying for food. paying for a capital project that

1:39:15okay more

1:39:16money to

1:39:16pay for in all due respect I I think it's an eight and I agree with you on the workforce training part. Um but I think that what our portion might be it doesn't even cover are the racks that are holding the food for Pasco County or the air conditioning or any of the logistics towards getting that food up here to Pasco County. So hundred twenty five I think we're getting a lot more food donated to Pasco County then a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars for two years is gonna pay for the money.

1:39:47I appreciate that. I again like I said before

1:39:49I'd hate for us to be

1:39:50cut off from their services. Well that would be not that would be

1:39:53I wouldn't be politically expedient, I agree, and I don't think they would do that, but I'm just saying Hillsboro County residents are paying for our food to be stored and transported to Pasco County.

1:40:04Um

1:40:05you say no?

1:40:05Uh Senator

1:40:06Fasano, yeah,

1:40:06he's not you can answer that's not Senator Fasano

1:40:09saying no.

1:40:09That's not the case. All right. You know, but it again going back to what I stated to the and I appreciate everything they're doing. Again, if this ass would have been for food, that'd have been a different story. Again, building a building in another county That's gonna provide services for citizens outside of this county too. I I I can't I can't do it. I mean that's my motion that's on the table right now. If I can get a second, I can't do it. And I will continue on when I'm done. Um

1:40:35Well I'll do a continuance.

1:40:38Well you'll you'll you'll learn through time that you give the person talking time and then you're

1:40:42going to be able to do that. And you share and you allow everyone now.

1:40:45Why don't you wait for a second and then we can continue our discussion?

1:40:50Is Madam Clerk no.

1:40:51Yeah, so in yeah, uh I'll I'll wait for a second and a second. I'll

1:40:55move second.

1:40:55I have

1:40:56to do that. Okay, so under discussion. Okay. So we have seventeen and a half million meals that are in security. Um meal insecurity. They're feeding Tampa Bay provides seven and a half million meals. One of my questions when I did meet with Feeding Tampa Bay was they did say they would s if we're providing X amount of funds, they would provide X amount of additional meals. Can they provide More

1:41:27meals than we can provide with the funding that we're going to provide to them. And with this additional funding they can store the additional meals to provide to our citizens. And of course we would have to look at that break-even analysis to make sure. But they are providing seven and a half million meals to people for meal insecurity. And then I do have the concern that Senator Mike Fassano did bring up so I'd like some additional answers

1:41:57before moving forward and voting on this topic.

1:42:01All

1:42:02right.

1:42:02So I'm going to do that.

1:42:02Any other discussion? Well, Madam Chairman Mariano just continue one more time. So um the Laker Lutz News wrote an article about this as well, about our discussion that day. Um I don't know if anybody else got emails, but I got a number of emails. Males. agreeing one hundred percent with my position on it, not one person actually stated the opposite. So the citizens are paying attention, the citizens of Pasco County are paying attention, and when they saw that meeting or read the article, they're in agreement. So I think I'd also citizens as well.

1:42:32Okay, so I wondered if we could um allocate that the money that we gave Um could go, let's say, to The rats that Pasco County, you know, I don't know how they would designate it, but Some of the um racks that Hold food. That's coming to our county. uh would be held on or percentage and that when we built a facility I if they both if and when they told me they want to expand it to different areas because they go they serve

1:43:02Hernando and Citrus as well. So at some point as the need grows, they're gonna need another facility up in this area and maybe that those capital fixtures move to our facility and then get it gets designated. Commissioner Oakley, Commissioner Mariano.

1:43:18Okay. Um when I first thought about this issue about the donation of a hundred and twenty five tortu infrastructure. I didn't think of it as that. I was thinking of it I was paying for food that was coming into Pasco 'cause they I think they do a great job feeding Tampa Bay in this in our area and our our citizens here. But as I thought about it more and it came more private that I shouldn't be paying for their infrastructure in another county. that

1:43:49they can be so proud of. I'd rather have an infrastructure and they didn't want one in our county 'cause they sold it. They got 890,000 or whatever. for that building that were given to them free. So they've already got their two hundred and fifty thousand plus toward a building. Well, they have

1:44:06eight hundred and forty one thousand towards the next facility here.

1:44:09Yeah, exactly. But with that said, I wanna help citizens in Pasco County. And I will do everything I can to help our citizens before I send money to build a building in another county. Okay. And Commissioner

1:44:24Mariano.

1:44:25And uh Commissioner Oakley, I was g I was going the same direction. Uh in matter of fact, I'm not sure if you're Uh Senator Fasano. You still s sold for eight hundred ninety thousand. What year was that?

1:44:35Twenty twenty.

1:44:36Twenty twenty? Okay.

1:44:37Yeah. Twenty.

1:44:38Twenty twenty, okay. So that's eight hundred and ninety thousand dollars. I wish When that decision was being made that we were notified?

1:44:46Yes.

1:44:49No Commission Mariano

1:44:50hasn't

1:44:51been.

1:44:51From beyond.

1:44:56If you want to keep that going, go ahead. I'll wait.

1:44:59Go ahead and play it.

1:45:07Commissioner Oriano, did he say twenty eleven or twenty twenty?

1:45:10He said twenty twenty. So

1:45:12they just recently sold it. Okay. All right. So let's hear the video. Listen, I'm o I'm okay with not funding this today and finding out about that eight forty nine. I just would say they do a lot they do do a lot. Yeah,

1:45:27I'm

1:45:27not saying

1:45:29all the food. Stop. We're not gonna play the

1:45:30video, I

1:45:31like

1:45:31to finish

1:45:31coming to Pasco County Administrator.

1:45:32We're not gonna play the video, I like to finish.

1:45:34Right.

1:45:35Um so if the building sold just in twenty Yeah. Don't you think we should have been notified?

1:45:42Yes.

1:45:42I don't think this thing just came up they're gonna go build this building. So as far as I'm concerned at this point, we've made an eight hundred thi eight hundred ninety thousand dollar niche already without even being told

1:45:53what

1:45:53they're doing with the asset we gave to them. So if they've made the decision to go consolidate, they get eight hundred and ninety grand from us, our taxpayers, I think we've made our contribution.

1:46:02Can we call the b call the boat? Call the question? Yeah.

1:46:05I'm okay with that. Um all in favor? Aye. Aye. Well, okay, your your motion uh opposed? To not do it is it was to take a hundred twenty five though and give it to feeding Pasco's elderly for two years?

1:46:20For two years. Correct. For your passwords. I I you gotta you guys you guys make the decision where it needs to go. It could go to feeding passwords early, you can go to senior services as long as the seniors are taken

1:46:30care of. It's not recurring every year, so it's not a good idea. Exactly.

1:46:34And let's continue to talk about and this doesn't mean we can't contribute to a specific meal amount later in the future. Right. Okay, so what so that one's done. Thank you very much.

1:46:46We we think we've contributed to that building.

1:46:50It was five zero. Okay. So we're good. All right, so um can can you guys come up real quick? We'll finish by noon. Thank you very much.

1:46:58Thank you all. Commissioner Oakley.

1:47:00And that was great information. Thank you, Senator Frasano, to bring that to our attention. Because you know, that should've come up in our discussions with food and temperature. Uh and it never came up in my group.

1:47:13Better wait to do it in the sunshine.

1:47:17Great job. Great job, Commissioner Moore. Thank you.

1:47:21All right. Frankly we should make that one twenty five. We can afford it. Yeah.