Conditional Use Request (Regular) – Holiday Square LTD/Johnson/US 19 & Flora – Conditional Use for Multiple-Family Dwellings in a C-2 General PC Addendum Agenda Commercial District – Southwest Pasco County – East Side of US Highway 19 Approximately 120 Feet South of Flora Avenue – Containing Approximately 13.6580 Acres File Number PDD22-CU26

29:37P7, PDD 22-CU26. In the name of Holiday Square Limited, Johnson US19 and Floral, it is a conditional use request for multifamily dwelling units in C2 General Commercial District.

29:54The subject site is currently located on the east side of US Highway 19, approximately 120 feet south of Floral Avenue.

30:07And here is a look at the aerial view. The surrounding future land use to the north is Res9 and Com Commercial, to the east is Res 6, to the south is Res9 and ROR, and to the west is ROR. To the north is for the surrounding futures. Sorry, for for the surrounding zoning to the north is R4 and C2, to the east is R4 and MF1 to the south is R4 and C2 and to the west is C2. The subject site is currently vacant on

30:37approximately 13.65 acres. The applicant is requesting a conditional use for multifamily dwelling units in C2. The applicant is proposing to develop the property with 330 multifamily apartments in conformance with the MF3 multifamily density district standards. The surrounding area is characterized by commercial and residential development consisting of single-family homes. The subject site has a future land use classification of ROR.

31:07And here is a look at the conceptual plan proposed.

31:13This is coming with a recommendation with conditions from Planning Development Department. I'm here if you have any questions.

31:22Okay, could you could we put that site plan back up so nobody gets a good look at it? Cool.

31:30So Mr Chair, before you well, unless you have questions for staff, um we should let the applicant presentation. Yeah.

31:40So is the applicant present.

31:43It's it's me, we're all right.

31:46Where are you? Oh hey Barbara.

31:52Yeah, go ahead.

31:54My team is in the audience as well. They're there in person. Um project engineer. And Steve Henry is the traffic engineer. So if you have any specific questions regarding the site plan or what they're proposing, they can certainly answer those questions. This is an old defunct retail site. It uh failed many years ago and it stayed vacant, um except for a motorcycle school for a very long time. It's um

32:25Allowed to control the conditional use when the board recently changed the code to not have conditional uses for Multi Family and C2. everywhere in the calendar they specifically left Yeah as a as an available um additional use to this area to encourage development and redevelopment in this area. So that's exactly what what we're doing here. The project will generate less traffic than the C two zoning on the property. Yeah.

32:56I think it'll be a great addition to an area that that needs redevelopment, that needs this type of investment. These would be market rate. We'll bring in income to this area and hopefully it'll spur redevelopment of some of the retail. There's a lot of retail, a lot of aging and dying retail in this area. And so we're hopeful that this investment and we're thankful for this client to bring this kind of investment um to this location. Hopefully we'll see more projects as a result of it. As I said, my team is available if you have any specific

33:27questions. technical side

33:31All right. Thank you, Barbara. Um is do we have any chat questions from up here or you want to hear from the is anyone here to object?

33:40See no objections. Do we have any questions for Barbara?

33:43I don't for Barbara. I have questions about traffic for staff and for the applicant.

33:50Okay. The applicant is the applicant here? Well I think Ms. Woolhart said that Mr. Henry can Steve can

33:58answer more to this.

34:02Yes, Steve Henry, Links and Associates.

34:04And first I gotta give credit where credit is due. When I saw this site plan I said wow what a beautiful site plan, so very nice job. Um there's one driveway to the project and it's all channelized medias. Correct. Right in, right out. Correct. And anybody that's driven this stretch knows what a nightmare that it is. I had to think long and hard about it and I said, Well, I'm not sure that I buy the argument about the less traffic than commercial because at the end of the day the

34:34site's not actually generating any traffic today, but nonetheless something will go there someday and probably this will go here today. The question that I have is is there any chance of getting some kind of left turn movement for this project? Because I just see this is a U-turn nightmare in a place that is already a traffic jam. That being said, if it were redeveloped as a shopping center we'd have the same problem.

34:59Correct and that and that's the issue. And we we have met with D O T And discussed it at length with DOT. But the the issue is obviously to get a directional median opening, we have to close somebody else's median opening to be able to accomplish that. So based on that, we the the end of discussion was it would be a right in, right out, and there would be U turns. Now from DOT's standpoint, that's why you see directional median openings there. They believe those are safer and the U turns are safer. Uh but we've certainly looked at that at length with them, but from a from a traffic

35:29standpoint, this is certainly less traffic than what it currently is zoned for and what it could be developed for. So from DOT standpoint, they were happy with the the redevelopment and it being right in, right out.

35:44The other question is in our I don't know whether you got to see the packet that we get, but Included was an accident map.

35:55So I'm questioning what was the purpose of including the accident map in the I think there was a a pedestrian accident map.

36:05All right. Well is there a concern for pedestrians?

36:09So yes, so our MPO team did review this and had concerns with um Sidewalk safety and connection for pedestrians. So they wanted to include that map. They did make comments that were included in your finding of facts. And I did also include a finding of fact that talked about that there was continuous sidewalks all the way to nearby schools. Because this would be under two miles from from the local schools.

36:35And I just I did want to clarify that 'cause when I and I tr I measured it a couple of t ways and I I it is within two miles of Sunray Elementary, but It looked to me to be beyond two miles of Paul R. Smith and and Claude High. Yes, at least by my measuring on the property appraiser side.

36:56So I I'm not sure how you measured it if it was a direct line from the pro property lines. No. So no.

37:02I measured through kind of just a street

37:05street. So so staff measured from property line to property line, so it it was under two. Um I can tell you that staff also reviewed it as just the nearest elementary, middle, and high schools. Gotcha. So so we wanted to look at all all all three because there could potentially be students. going to all three of those schools.

37:25So s and just to since we're on this topic, so this would be zone for Sunray Elementary. which is on the north, to the north, and it that is within two miles now I'm not aware that s students in this area. Walk? I would assume that we're transporting these kids, but I d didn't know that for sure. But then the fact that they'd be crossing nineteen definitely Um at least as far as I know, a bus would be transporting these students

37:55from this site to Paul R. Smith Middle and Ankleton.

37:58And and that's why that um pedestrian cross accident map w was

38:02included. Yes. And no I So that was good information, but I I just wanna clarify for this group that that's where we are with that, I think.

38:14Okay. All right. John anything else?

38:26I I heard the comment that I closed somebody else's media opening off we're all it's a public right of way. We the public own the medians and the openings. So I think we gotta prioritize where those are. But I understand you can't control what the state does.

38:43Okay,

38:44thanks. And I would I would add, Mr. Chair, that as far as capacity for the schools we have capacity in those three schools I cited for this project.

38:54All

38:54right. Great.

38:57Okay.

38:58Yeah, I I I guess just to add a couple of things. Obviously one and I think this was touched on, this definitely is is an area in need of redevelopment. Um I know myself as I've come in on other projects on nineteen I I keep hearing about and then I've heard about on the planning side this harbors redevelopment plan and I believe is this in the Harbor's Redevelopment Plan?

39:20I I would

39:23Yes it is. I would assume that on the planning side that everything's been looked at because I I guess while we're getting a bite at the apple and while while we're having redevelopment going nineteen, are all the goals of the Harbor's Development Redevelopment Plan being met with what they're proposing here?

39:39Uh for this particular uh development we're hitting a number of of uh goals and objectives in the Harbors Redevelopment Plan. There isn't anything specific to the site, although it has identified a few of these sites and I think this was one of them um for redevelopment purposes. So th so this is a form of redevelopment that is acceptable to the Harbors Plan.

40:02Okay. I mean it's I mean This isn't exactly right at the county line, but I mean this is one of those kind of gateway projects to the county line and making sure that the product we end up with here is something that's What the county's looking for and meets the goals and objectives of what the county planning department's worked so hard on. for redevelopment of the nineteenth. So I I only saw it referenced briefly in the memo. I just wanted to just for the record or hopefully and maybe that's something that comes up when they come in with their site plan. But something that's looked at as far as for redevelopment and and making, you know, a

40:32a nice looking project for everybody. I mean I'm sure the developer wants something nice too. Just one minute.

40:38I'll tell you, I like the developer's website. Looks like he does a nice product.

40:45Yeah. Yeah, I mean I I always caution myself with once the conditional use is granted, th there's no guarantee that this is gonna be the developer. So that that's unless the conditional use only runs with this developer, which I don't think's the case, is it?

41:00No that is not the case.

41:07All right, anybody else? Any other questions or comments?

41:12All right, if not, um I think we've asked everybody if they want to speak. Um so if that I'll hear a motion.

41:20Move to approve item P seven. Second.

41:24Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion on the motion? If not, all in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Like sign for no?

41:36Okay, she

41:37cares.

41:40Excuse me, Mr. Chair. We do have the applicant from P six. He is now here. I don't know if you want to wait for that item still or if you want to go back to it since it's still all fresh on our minds. Uh let's let's go on to the the last one, I

41:54think. Then we'll come back. No problem.