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Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) – Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Department – CPA23(03) Text Amendment - Providing for Comprehensive Plan Text Amendments to Chapter 5 Recreation and Open Space Element, the Glossary, and Proving Additional Text Amendments as Necessary for Internal Consistency; Providing for a Repealer, Severability, and an Effective Date – No Funding Required

Public Hearings at 1:30 p.m.PRN-23-0141District All

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1/2Taken up at Afternoon session, 1:19:56

Starkey

Uh P fifty eight was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times on April sixteenth, twenty twenty three. Finally.

MarianoChair

Waiting two years for this.

Starkey

Finally.

Keith

You're taking my uh my opening. So I listen, I know that today's been pretty intense and it's gonna be hard for me to curb my enthusiasm to actually be here. So Keith Wiley, Director of Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources. This has been, I think I've been working on this since 2015. So uh you know, we did the Go Bond, well we did the master plan, we did the Go Bond. Um we got that done thanks to the public. Then we initiated some capital uh plan adjustments. refinements, then we did the impact fee study and and now we're here. So um I have a question, Mr. Chairman. So are we

gonna do the workshop, the extraordinary circumstances workshop?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Yeah I was just gonna mention that I think you should consider P sixty one and sixty two Before you do P fifty eight.

MarianoChair

Let's go to P sixty one. Do we approve? Yes, sir.

Starkey

Please hold. P sixty one, Tampa Bay Times, April sixteenth, twenty twenty-three. Do you also want me to uh do P sixty two at the same time?

MarianoChair

Uh let's do one by one.

Starkey

Okay.

MarianoChair

So just sixty one? Okay. Thank you.

2/2Taken up again at Afternoon session, 1:30:48

Keith

I won't complain about that. I'll just go to P61. Okay, so uh P sixty one is the comprehensive plan amendments. It is a text amendment providing comprehensive plan text amendments to Chapter 5, recreation. an open space element, the glossary and providing additional text amendments is necessary for internal consistency.

This is just the history that I recap. So that's why the workshop was important the first time. Um

Starkey

Keith,

Keith

I'm

Starkey

listening to you. I just have to deal with the contact.

Keith

Yes, ma'am. I understand I work contacts myself. So what do we have here basically is um we're s switching from a regulatory tool of concurrency when we did the impact fee study to a specific target in the you know in the plan itself. So that's the adjustment for the for the for the changes and where you see where we go down in community parks, uh up in district parks, and down in natural resources parks.

This is just a quick snapshot of the actual plan. We were very careful to include the specific definitions of each one so that way we actually could, you know, in the future understand what a community park, a district park, a natural resources park would be. further clarification, we wanted to make sure that we understood that There's certain specific or unique facilities that should be co-located with district parks. Those could be a skate park, a BMX park, dog park, et cetera.

Timeline for implementation, we need to get this transmitted to the Department of State within 10 days after final adoption in July 11 of this year. Effective date, if the amendment is not timely challenged, shall be 31 days from the actual approval. But just as a reminder, we're actually shooting for an effective date of January 1st, 2024 for the fee itself. So with that said, um Parks is recommending board action to authorize the transmittal. Any questions for me?

MarianoChair

Any questions for Keith?

Okay. And Keith, I'm just make a comment. We've talked about it but I'll just say it for public. Um I I notice the Sun Sun West is not on the list, but you do have other improvements through your whole plan. Yes, correct. Yeah.

OakleyVice Chair

So right now we need a motion to transmit

MarianoChair

comment

OakleyVice Chair

first. Or public comment.

MarianoChair

Anyone here from the public wish to comment? P sixty two.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Good afternoon, Mr. Chair. Commissioner Edward Briggs, Vice President of Government Relations for RSA Consulting Group, representing the Tampa Bay Builders Association, 512 East Kennedy Boulevard, Tampa, Florida. Just wanted to comment to say, well, thank you so much. We appreciate all the time. We've worked with staff on this, especially Keefe, as we plan to look at this issue over the last nine months and really do support overall the increases that you are looking at for parks. We know it's a very important issue for you and your constituents. I think one thing that we do ask is from the TBBA perspective is that when looking at this going forward that

you do consider what we talked with the staff about, the 60-42-year phase increase. This is something that we came to an agreement on with staff and we hope that the Commission would honor that. So thank you so much.

MarianoChair

Uh Mr. Brees, if you'd stay on, please. Just I want I just want to talk about that a little bit. I'm sympathetic to the increased cost it's gonna go but the people are gonna be paying it when they get there. And I think it's a big positive for them. to actually see that money's gonna go into parks. Now one thing we've talked about um at the commission is to actually look at taking the f permitting fees that you guys are paying now currently and bringing those down. So I don't know how much it's gonna be an offset to it, but I think if we get those fees down low enough there should be an offset you'd be break even and

that's upfront money that that Should help you guys right up front. So keep in mind we don't wanna hurt you guys, but we gotta protect our people and I think everyone coming in here is gonna say, you know what? I want to I want to pay the fee, I want to make sure I get parks for my kids. So w where we decide, I just want you to know I'm I'm coming that way. Any other comments?

Weightman

I'd be happy to let you manage my phone. Folks want parks, they want fields, and they want them yesterday.

Thank you, Mr. Briggs.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

No, thank you, Commissioner. Just to add to you, you know, we completely, and I think it was important for us to be here to just let you know that we do support overall the fee increases and everything that you're doing. I think one thing to also keep in mind, even talking with your staff and someone to support, is when these go into effect, as it seems like in January, you all will be bonding these projects and no matter what, that will be allowed with you all having these fees increases. So the phase in really wouldn't matter that much in the sense that if you guys do phase in it over the two years, you're still gonna be bonding these projects at the end of the day. So I just wanted to

keep that in perspective. So you will be getting these projects out of the ground immediately. So I just wanted to keep that but commissioner, we appreciate the comments on the permit fees as well.

MarianoChair

Well I appreciate you in the building association. You guys have been great to work with as we try to like help help growth come and get the good growth coming in. And we'll be talking a little bit later on.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Thank you.

MarianoChair

Thank you.

Anyone else here from the public want to speak? Anybody on

Starkey

There is no one signed up.

MarianoChair

All right, so we'll close this item. Um

Unidentified speakerVoice C

She's a motion.

MarianoChair

So we need that to the board now. Actually this is pr this is just presentation. No. No? This is transmittal to to present. Second.

All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay.

Starkey

I would say zone two looks a little big. I think zone one needs to be a little bigger. What do you

Keith

think, Jack? All about access.