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Zoning Amendment (Consent) – Nest Hockey Academy MPUD Master Planned Unit Development – Russ and Leanne Henderson – A Rezoning Request from an A-C Agricultural Zoning District to an MPUD Master Planned Unit Development District to Allow the Development of a 150-Student Hockey Academy.

Public Hearings at 1:30 p.m.PDD-23-7624District 1

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MarianoChair

Forty six. Yes. Okay. Alright, so for items P43, P44, we have a motion to approve. So move. Second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, so the items are done. Let's go to item P forty-five.

Starkey

Okay, P forty five was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times on April nineteenth, twenty twenty three.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Good afternoon, Tammy Snyder, Planning Development. Did you want the whole presentation or did you just want to ask a question?

MarianoChair

I think you need a full presentation.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Full presentation? All right. We have PDD 23, 7624, Nest Hockey Academy and PDD. The location map. That is McHenry Road.

Here's a overview.

And proposed as rezoning from AC zoning district to an MPUD to allow the development of a hockey academy with a maximum of one hundred and fifty students. The Henderson Ice Rink was approved with a special exception designation to allow the use, but it capped the student employee population until such time as the property was rezoned to the requested MPUD to allow a hockey academy. The application the applicant is also seeking the following variation from LVC. Section 402.5

D requires a thousand-foot distance between a school, place of worship, or a park for alcohol consumption. As this academy expects to host tournaments and other such sporting functions where alcohol may possibly be served, the applicant wishes a waiver from this requirement. Staff analysis. PDD has no concerns in recommending approval for the distance waiver. The waiver is for the distance requirement only, and if any sales or consumption is to occur, they still have to get the administrative use permit. The MPD

is within the business core of Connected City, and the Connected City Comp Plan requires a mix of uses within walkable distances, and that could be hindered with the thousand. thousand dollar thousand foot requirement Additionally, the unique nature of the site is likely to promote tourism by hosting events that may benefit from or require the availability of alcohol either at or near the site. Here's their master plan. That is Vision Roadway Boyette in

red. The surrounding area is in transition. It has it's in close proximity to the Murata Connected City MPUD, Epperson Ranch, April, Ellis, and is planned pursuant to the Connected City Overlay. The Vision Road AF, also known as Boyette, bisects the property and the applicant is required to dedicate the right-of-way for it and connect once it's constructed and open. And the same road, once constructed, will contain at least one multi-use

path within the right-of-way as per the connected City Master Roadway Plan. And the applicant will improve McHendry Road from the project entrance north to Tyndall Road. And the proposed request is consistent with the PASCO LDC, Chapter 400, Subsection 402.2, Zoning Amendment, MPUD, and with the applicable provisions of the Pasco County Comprehensive Plan. And with that we recommend approval with conditions.

OakleyVice Chair

Okay.

Any questions for staff? Yeah. If you will go back to the map.

Shouldn't locate you there. Whoa.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

You

OakleyVice Chair

want the

Unidentified speakerVoice A

master plan?

OakleyVice Chair

Right there. Where is the vision room?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

It's in the red.

OakleyVice Chair

Oh it's right there. Okay. Yeah. I was looking for it a while ago and I couldn't see it and I didn't realize where that was at. So the reason I pulled this and and I think it's a a great project there were some issues with it when it started because the applicant was doing things without permits and I actually had stopped him from doing things because he was doing it without permits. So I had stopped him, but When they get the conditional use, and this is something we need to pay attention

to in the future is the fact that when they got the conditional use to put this project and it's a residential area, but it's a commercial, to me it's a commercial project because it invites a lot of people in this area. When they got started started the project. This vision road was there? But because they went through only the Planning Commission to get their conditional use. the site plan for the site

review of the property before he started building wasn't happening. Did not happen until we stopped and and looked at it. Cause he could have built his rank in this vision road area. And we'd have had a real problem in this property. So when somehow when a something goes and I guess Mr. Steinsteiner didn't tell us, but when a project goes forth and goes through conditional use and doesn't come to the board Those other things of of um

the property and the they're looking at the property for things that it's clear to make sure there's a vision road. The Planning Commission, I don't think, were realizing that there was a Vision Road because nobody had done the first check of the property to make sure the building wasn't going to be in that location where the Vision Road is. So it's it just kind of went a little too far, I think, before it actually started holding brakes and and making sure. And the other fact is

McKendry was never supposed to be uh a road that would not be substandard. It was never supposed to be anything. And this vision road is only only set to happen with probably within the next 10 years. So it's hard for a project. The main issue with this project is it number one, it was put in a residential area. If it had gone into a commercial area, the road work and the road that they needed to Supply

the transportation for this project. would have already been in a commercial area. And we wouldn't have been worrying about paving McKendry and doing some other things and then and the fact the Vision Road's ten years out. So it's it there's a lot of unanswered things on on doing some of this. Yes Ms. Starkey. Mr. Starkey.

Starkey

I'm reading it says this MPUD is within the business core of Connected City. So it's not residential. It's in the business.

OakleyVice Chair

Well they've been stating there's residential all around this.

Starkey

Well Yeah.

OakleyVice Chair

Maybe Brad can answer that because that's what I've been told all along. They build it in a residential area. I

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Brad tiping and development. Um yes, uh just to clarify the timeline a little bit, uh a little bit. Um the actual facility itself was done originally, it was permitted as a private rent for the homeowner, as an accessory structure to its house.

OakleyVice Chair

So the the owner's home was on this property that he lived at and was

Unidentified speakerVoice B

gonna build it. was how it was done at the time the site plan for it came through. We did look at where the vision road would be to make sure that there were no buildings going in there. So we were going to take care of that and make sure that that was all taken care

OakleyVice Chair

of. But the question I'm asking is was the person that was doing the conditional use for his home is his home here on this property?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

So this was before the conditional use. This was not a part of the conditional use. This was a A person that owned the property that was building an accessory structure to the structure they had on the property currently. That was how it first came through.

OakleyVice Chair

Well that that's not uh still not answering the question. The gentleman said he was building it for his residence. this project and then along the way he changed his mind and decided he would build it for more students and bigger. and then he changed course, but d was his residence on this property what he was building for. Because somebody made a mistake. But not checking that out to be sure it was gonna be built as his resin

as he was saving he wanted to do.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Okay, I I can only speak to the ownership of the property. He was the owner of the property and was building this as an accessory structure on the property.

OakleyVice Chair

But that's something staff wouldn't check if his resident was there where he's putting an application in for it?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yeah, that was that was the case. And what happened was uh after that was approved and that construction of his accessory structure was in progress, uh he changed his mind a little bit and decided that he was Wanted to open that facility up more to the general public for a small amount of people. So what happened, that's what triggered the special exception that brought the uh school into this with the cap at 20. And then he went from there, he decided that he would like to see that school

evolve more, and that's where we ended up with the larger number. So it was a it was kind of three separate. processes and the the actual site plan and the structure of everything for the special exception in this particular.

OakleyVice Chair

I understand but the fact of it is it went through a conditional use. to be built at a residence of the person pulling a permanent. But he doesn't, I don't believe, live on this property or his home was not here and w staff didn't check further to make sure it was gonna be placed as a residence. I mean I don't mind that he changed and wanted to be a bigger and a bigger and better school for the kids. You know, I think that's great. And I think the use of this is gonna be great. But

staff can't you've got to double check everything to make sure they're right, because this just compounded one thing after another until we've got this built in an area there's gonna be homes in this area. It it just doesn't fit and I don't know why staff would even do something like that. I'm confused about that. And nobody's checked to see if this house is here, but he's building a residential

activity for his children at his residence. And I I've yet to hear if his residence is here and I don't believe it is.

So

Unidentified speakerVoice B

I if I'm I'm sorry, if you want me to respond to that, yes, they the owner of the property provides deeds showing ownership at the time of those site planning reviews. So they showed that there was ownership there and there was a structure there. So

OakleyVice Chair

So you just went by ownership, you didn't go by what the conditional use that he was we was gonna build as Brad

Unidentified speakerVoice C

you keep saying a structure. Was there a house there? Was there a residence there?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yeah.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Okay. So there was a residence on on the property and he showed ownership and so he permitted it was permitted as an accessory use. Uh whether somebody it If there was no home there. The commissioner's point is well taken that you can't have an accessory if there's no no dwelling. But if there is

OakleyVice Chair

But what I'm getting at is the person who was fixing to build this as residence and then changed his mind later, his actual home where he lived is not there. It's not there today. But I understand what you're saying.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

But I think we've I understand the commissioner's point, but we've sort of moved beyond that because the current current application which is before you wouldn't require the residents to be there. Right. It's no longer an accessory use, it will be a primary use for this property. Right. And the special

Unidentified speakerVoice B

accessory before also

OakleyVice Chair

I think amazement for on what happened. Those things I think we need to look at ahead of time so we don't have things like this happen and and be put in an area that it would have been better maybe in a commercial area to begin with. Um The next thing is what are the conditions now? Because all I want this applicant to do is do what every other developer in

our county is required to do, is if he has to build a road from timber, I understand, substandard. to his property to provide for the traffic. I wanna know when he has to do that and then I wanna know if there's any requirements to time or that when he starts the school because these are things that can take a while and it could be in the next fall school year.

So I just want to check and make sure that they can continue and do their school. While they're waiting on the road, are there requirements to him that he has to do this by a certain time? And then also on the impact fee that he has charged because he's increased his

people to bear from, I think, from the 25 or 20 to uh 250 people or something or 150 people. Yeah. So there is an impact fee difference and just want to know what that requirement is.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

I I can answer the first question for you. Uh essentially they need to bond the improvements to McHenry Road uh right off the bat. Uh and then it is required to be constructed within eighteen months. Eighteen months from what we've seen is essentially a reasonable expectation for a design permit, uh obtain the materials and the labor and get it constructed kind of timeline these days. anything faster than that would probably be very very difficult to meet uh for anyone. Um so that was

the the deadline that we set out for and I can Terry can maybe speak to the mobility fee whether that was or Tam

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Um yes, as far as the mobility fees they did already pay a small portion of what they would now owe. So we deducted that amount is just under twenty nine thousand dollars. Um I think the total overall Uh was about seventy five thousand. So we deducted the amount that they paid they owe just over or just under fifty thousand now every year.

OakleyVice Chair

So you owe how much?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

It it should be in the memo. I think I detailed all of that information in the memo for you. Um but they paid.

That is due um at s they have an open permit, a remodel permit right now, and so they have to pay that fee prior to the C O for that open m remodel permit.

MarianoChair

And the number's forty-eight thousand three hundred nineteen dollars and forty-three cents. Yes. Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So that's gotta

MarianoChair

be paid before the next school year. Right.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Right, 'cause they can't actually use that building until they get their CO for it and they can't get the C O until they

OakleyVice Chair

So that's okay in eighteen months I understand that. That'd be good for the road. Um What's the uh

What happens if you don't do it in 18 months?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

He's he has to put a bond up before we even before the uh MPD is even valid or effective.

OakleyVice Chair

So what

Unidentified speakerVoice A

happens then? So if if he does not put that bond up, then his MPUD is never effective. And if he defaults on it, then whatever happens at the end of eighteen months with his bond. I I don't know

Unidentified speakerVoice C

the county would be required the county would be required to call his on then and perform and then we'll

OakleyVice Chair

end up building the road with the rest of the money that was

Unidentified speakerVoice C

fine.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yeah, and and that may depend on the timing, as you know there's a vision road like you were mentioning that runs on the other side of the property. Um that we have some projects that are nearing that area that may be building pieces of that, so it kind of would depend on uh you know, whether or not that vision road is in play yet or not, um as to whether the county would use that and and actually build that other road.

OakleyVice Chair

Okay. All right. So if it doesn't meet that and we pull the bond, there's no code enforcement, there's no shutting down of the school. That wouldn't happen. Would happen?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

So depending on again, depending on the timeline, uh the NPUD is not valid until the bond is in place. So if anything were to happen that the bond did not get put in place, uh the school could not open because it's not a valid use yet, uh at least not for more than twenty the twenty or so that are allowed. Um if you I can't

OakleyVice Chair

see these counties closing that a school seeing

Unidentified speakerVoice B

that. I understand. If it's after that they post the bond, uh then we can call uh like uh Mr. Schneidschneider was saying. Right. And then we can we can construct the road if we need to. And code enforcement can go out if there's other issues there on the site.

OakleyVice Chair

And I'm sure other people on top. But that that answers my question. All I want them to do is the right thing and do like every developer in this county does and has to meet their obligations and do what they need to do to be able to operate their business. So I'm good with it as long as that's gonna happen.

MarianoChair

Okay. Any other questions for staff? Time for the applicant?

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Good afternoon, Chair. Fellow Commissioner, Brent Spain, Theriac in Spain, eighteen oh nine, Edgewater Drive, Orlando, Florida, on behalf of the Henderson's. I appreciate the opportunity to appear before you this afternoon. I do have a presentation.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

I have. Thank you. For the record.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

I do have a full presentation. I provided you a color copy of it. I'm happy to run through that if that's the board's uh pleasure. I did before doing so wanna touch upon s some of the questions and sort of just back up what staff had indicated. Historically and I'll I'll jump ahead because this might actually help. uh address one of the concerns on the procedural aspect. I just want to clear up that yes in November twenty nineteen you'll see there was a pre-application

meeting that was regarding a private ice hockey rink on the subject site. But then you'll see in August twenty twenty the applicant submitted the preliminary site construction plan for the Nest Hockey Academy private school. Okay. And then June 2021, the special exception was approved. for the private school and as you heard there was a cap. on the number of students and employees. And I did want to mention The Vision

Road and I've got the special exception approval. There was actually a condition, condition 13, made reference to the need to dedicate the 150 feet of right-of-way for the Vision Road. So when the special exception came through, and the special exception was for an actual private school and hockey academy, it was not for an accessory use. To the residents. But then staff also did impose that same condition again when the site plan, site development plan was

approved again three months after the special exception in September of 2021. And in condition six, again, they recognized that the connected city master railway plan had bisected this property and made note of the 150-foot right-of-way.

Staff already touched upon probably the two most important conditions, so I'll jump ahead to those.

And before I get there, this is the MPUD site plan. Everything that's on the site plan, all the structures actually exist today. The only thing that doesn't exist is circled in red on the overhead, and that's the future connection to the vision road.

And then a couple of the conditions that got brought up with Commissioner Oakley's questions is one, condition of approval eight does require those improvements to McKindry Road to bring it up to county standards from our project driveway all the way up to Tyndall Road. It requires a posting of the performance bond, which you were informed about, and completion within the 18 months. I've just shown up here, it's a little hard to read on the slide, but on the right, just to show our commitment to the project, that's already the letter of

commitment and approval from the bond company. Saying that they stand ready and uh able to issue that performance bond as soon as we provide them written confirmation of the County Commission's approval of the MPUD with that condition. But we went ahead and got that in advance of today so you all knew we're gonna meet that condition of approval eight. And then condition of approval 14 sort of ties into that. Again, we have to dedicate the right-of-way for the Vision Road on the west

side of our site. And then there's a condition that within one year of completion of that vision road, we will connect to the Vision Road, and then McKendry Road will be an emergency access only for this school facility.

The other condition of approval I wanted to mention, which also was discussed, is condition of approval 27, which goes to the mobility fees. They total a little over 77,000. My clients already paid just under 29,000, and we will have to pay an additional 48,000 and some change before the MPUD, before you this afternoon becomes effective. And then it also required the building department wanted a certified statement from our client recognizing and

acknowledging that notwithstanding Uh building occupancy counts that the student enrollment is capped at 150 unless and until an amendment to the MPU MPUD is approved. So we've gone ahead, we've already submitted that sworn statement and acknowledgement from my client. You'll see it on the right there. Ms. Snyder has a copy of that and the highlighted text is where Mr. Henderson is the president. of the property owner uh acknowledges that cap on student

enrollment. With that said, I'm I'm happy to answer any questions. I can run through the through the presentation if needed. I did want to emphasize this this project's a school first and foremost, which has this unique feature of offering these students uh hockey. And I can tell you it's it's a one-of-a-kind facility in Florida right now. Any type of academy that's offered anywhere in the state does not have their own dedicated rink. And

just flipping through these photos real quick. It's a beautiful facility. I know many of you have probably been out to it. Here's a picture of the students from the inaugural year, which was capped at 13 students, seventh and eighth grade, doing the pledge. There they are with the school provided electronic devices studying. Much like my son who's in public school, here they are doing science experiments and group work projects together. And then you have the hockey aspect on

the back end, which is just extremely, extremely unique.

You can see it's a state-of-the-art facility in the top left. You see they've got a training screen. They can stop during training and show the students exactly what's going on on the ice. And I can uh certainly enjoy the picture on the bottom right. I'm gonna guess that young gentleman just scored a goal. I have a travel travel hockey player.

I'm a travel hockey player myself, so I'm I'm very familiar with that look. I'm also familiar with the one when it hits the goalpost and this is But again, I again I didn't go through the whole presentation, but I I think this slide sums up why we're here this afternoon and why these young gentlemen are in the stands dressed nicer than I am. Is one the mission statement is about good hockey but more importantly it's about great people. And then you'll see the Nest Hockey Academy Crux, Next Generation Learning, Exceptional

Hockey. servant leadership and transform lives. I mean this is about great students. It's certainly about creating great hockey players. But at the end of the day it's about creating great little citizens that go out and make a difference in the world. So we certainly support and agree with staff's recommendation of approval. We respectfully ask you to approve the MPUD this afternoon afternoon. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have and thank you for your support.

OakleyVice Chair

Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Oakley. Uh one question I I'm not sure, but is this a Christian school or five O one C three or Or not.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Yeah, that's sort of uh I'll answer in two part questions. One, it's a private uh school and it's a for-profit corporation like many schools are operated and it's based on a Christian curriculum. So it's affiliated with Liberty University in order to get its accreditation, which the goal is it will be fully accredited within three years.

OakleyVice Chair

Yeah. Okay. Sounds good. I uh I guess we got more public to hear, but after that I'll be ready for a motion. So Okay. Uh Mr. Wigan? No?

MarianoChair

Uh I just wanna say um to the kids out there, you guys are doing a lucky law. But uh yeah, we took a great project as well. So now's the time for public comment.

Starkey

We do. We have three and well maybe four I guess. So the first one signed up is John and Sherry Parlapiano. I think that's why you say that. When you come to the podium to speak for the record, please state your name and address for the record and let us know if you've been sworn.

Sherry Parlapiano

Uh we've been sworn. It's uh John and Sherry Parlo Piano, uh [address removed]. We're twenty five year residents of that road and we've seen a lot of changes. Um some not pretty good, but um understand it's an unimproved road road. For the s uh say split in half from fifty two to Overpass uh Tendle Road being the cutoff point. It's paved, south there substandard. We deal with all kinds of traffic. People doing donuts on the road. You can imagine what goes on on dirt roads, I'm sure you're familiar with it.

To suggest that you would have 150 more people driving up and down that road. Kudos to them. I I'm for progress. I admire the fact that they came here and stand before you to support what they believe in, and I'm not against them. Um but I'm for my quality of life and I think that should weigh on your decisions. Um there's 25 people that live south of um Temple Road, excuse me, to um Tober Pass.

only three or four that live north of Tyndall Road. So the fact that it's paved, you can't suggest to me that all the 150 extra people that are gonna come down are all going to come from 52 down a paved road and not affect the lives of the people that live south of Tyndall Road all the way up. Um

uh as far as the alcohol goes. They keep saying they're an academy. They keep saying they're they're a school. Uh I'm a twenty-eight year retired law enforcement officer. I know the effects of alcohol. I know what happens when you bring alcohol into a residential area. It's quite the same reasons why they don't allow it in schools. You won't see alcohol at any venue at any public school. These are the same boys and girls that attend those schools. And they can use Christian if all

they want to, and I'm sure they're good people. I won't speak bad of them, but the effects of alcohol doesn't just not target Christian people. It targets everybody. So I can see them getting lower on my time.

Unidentified speakerVoice E

And as far as I don't know what you've been told, obviously you've what we've experienced the same thing that apparently that you've been told and and none of it's determined I'd like to know.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Miss So you get three minutes and she gets three minutes. So so you've complete your for public comment and then and then your wife can Oh

Sherry Parlapiano

awesome. Okay. Um I'd just like to say one thing um to the chairman. Um these young people that are here, I'm sure they're great and they deserve something like that. Should never have happened in a residential area. It's an oversight. It's there, we have to deal with it. But you can't keep on making decisions on a bad decision to make things worse for the people that live there. Um These young kids, I support them and would I'm proud of the fact that they stand up and speak for

what um they uh they believe in. But these young kids are already there at the Nest Academy. Nothing's gonna happen. If you disapprove this, nothing's gonna happen to them. They have their academy, they're still gonna do it. We're talking about the 150 people that are coming. That's what we're afraid of. What are the effects of my road? what it affects for the animals that live on our road and the kids. We already have problems with uh off-road vehicles and things like that, but

um it you can't continue to make decisions that are going a bad decision on another bad decision on another bad decision um because something was overlooked. And we ask that you uh not approve um the the the project. So that's all I have.

Starkey

So when you come to the m if you'll give your name and address and state whether you've been sworn.

Unidentified speakerVoice E

Perfect. Thank you. Um what you have been told the same thing is it in my opinion it kind of gives collusion to the commissioner's office when things are getting done without proper permits and stuff like you said that Mr. Oakley said that he wasn't aware that things were happening once it was brought to his attention that he put a stop to it. We didn't even know this was happening. We didn't even know anything about it. Um we we never got notified when they first started doing all that stuff. He had a parking lot in even before he had the the building up. We you know, we thought well Um, maybe

he was doing a landscaping business and just wanted a place for people to park or something like that. N never in our wildest dreams that we know that a commercial building was growing up in a neighbor in a residential area. Um We it like I said, it just kind of gives a sense that you know when things are done underhandedly, it makes us question government as to how things are getting done. Are they getting done under the table? Do we know somebody? What's going on? Because there's no oversight, there's no consequences. It's like, okay, well, just don't do that again. Things keep just keep getting worse

and worse. As far as him, I don't know if he told you he lived on that property, he doesn't live on that property, and unless I'm mistaken, they live in Brookside. on that property. It was bought a ten acre tract of land was brought from there used to be some Mexican people living there. They built this little barn dominion. The living quarters were up top and they parked their vehicles underneath. I know this well because they used to play their music uh you know amplified music every single night. um for for a long time. But anyway, before he bought the property. And it was so it's it's cheaper to buy residential property

and try to make it commercial than it is to go get commercial land and do what he wants to do. That's really what he should have done. But instead he buys a ten acre parcel of land in a residential area and wants to force his His business on everybody else. There's nothing commercial around there. You have to go down to one Pasco center before you see commercial. Um which is on north of fifty-two. He is sandwiched in between houses. It it has no business there. It's on a it's on a pav it's not even on a paved road, it's on a dirt road. There's no infrastructure there. There's there's nothing. And so how this

just keeps getting compounded is just um it's just bewildering to us how it how all this is taking shape and And this is just happening right under our noses. It it's just it's crazy. There's n like I said, there doesn't seem like there's any um oversight, there's no consequences, there there's nothing. Just do what you want to do and y know the right people and we'll just get stuff passed. When we moved out there twenty-six years ago. Um in fact it's funny that it was it was Hobby and Guilford that sold us the property out there. And we were told in ninety seven that the road would be paved. So

Interesting. But yes, it's a residential area. There is no commercial out there and the just um the the traffic uh the way it is now is incredible. The county can't keep up with it. We take our own tractor out there, our neighbors take their tractor out there and try to do what we can to keep the uh The the holes down and stuff like that to make it more bearable for us to drive on. These people don't have to do that. They don't live on the road, but they get used to the road. And it's just gonna tear it up even more and every time we call the county to get you know, the trucks out there to to help clear

up the road, it doesn't They never w they never really want to do it. Eventually they get out there, but they never really want to do it. It's just it's always a problem. Any questions for me?

MarianoChair

Uh we don't do questions like that, only for staff and applicants. Thank you.

Starkey

Okay. The next person signed up is Lauren Levi.

Unidentified speakerVoice F

Good afternoon, my name is Lauren Levi. I've already been sworn. My address is [address removed], right at the corner of McCundry and Jimble. Some of you might recall me speaking at the MPUD Town Center here nearly a year ago. I'm a huge proponent for supporting family-owned businesses. My grandfather owned a grocery store. My parents owned a medical grade furniture company before COVID forced us to close. So I'm all for supporting local family-owned businesses. And

I have really gotten to enjoy Russ and his family as neighbors. And all the help they have been to my family and I. So I don't necessarily have a problem with the growth of his business and more so with the county. At the MPUD hearing for the Town Center, I told you all about my concerns with the growth in the traffic and the people that would be using McKendry Road as a through road. And Brad Tipton and some of you made the promise that that wouldn't happen, nor would it be an issue. Not

only has that happened, but we also have a lot of vehicles on our road now due to Nestacki. While I'm 50-50 on whether paving the road would be the best idea based on the fact that most people don't want to drive down a dirt road and paving it would cause more traffic, I'm more concerned at the fact that the paving of the road the county wants to take part of my family's property past our fence line. Why take our property when the county already owns the strip of land across the street from me to

be able to widen and pave the road? In our land deed, we actually own a portion of the road as well, which I believe the county has already taken as a right of way when it's not even maintained for the county to do that. The property The county already owns across for me is lot number two one-two five-two zero dash zero zero zero zero-49900-0010. Using that property instead of mine would also lessen

the curve in the road, making it safer to drive, especially if it was paved due to higher rate of speed. I told you all at the last hearing my concerns of the road due to people hitting our fence. Well that's become even more of a concern. A county bus just hit my fence six weeks ago, which is why They are Which why they're even driving northbound on McHundry baffles me because the po the county paid fifty two to Tyndall before therefore a bus shouldn't

even have been taking the route it did to hit my fence. So I'm asking all of you again. And instead of promising me it's not going to be an issue this time, how are you going to help and protect my family and I? I understand growth is bound to happen and my property doesn't have to be taken as a result of it. Because right now you are trying to take my property for right-of-way when you already own property on the west side of the road going south. People have been hitting my fence for ages, and even county

vehicles are starting. To hit my fence. And I'm really starting to lose faith in my county and county commissioners being here for the people like me. Thank you.

MarianoChair

Thank you.

Starkey

Okay, thank you. And we have one more person signed up, Pim Britt.

Kim Britt

Thank you. My name is Kim Britt. The address in which I am discussing today is [address removed]. I have been sworn. I am here on behalf of my mother who is still recovering from a vehicle crash after experiencing a medical episode. First, I'd like to say that we're very excited that Nest Hockey Academy is a successful Business, good neighbor, and we wish nothing but the best for them. Second, last year, amongst

our concerns, we discussed the possibility of the increasing traffic on McKendry Road at the MPUD hearing for the developments across the road, and we were assured that McKendry Road would become a private road, remaining as a dirt road, as there are plenty. to create new roads and therefore not an issue. Well unfortunately the traffic on McKenzie Road has increased exponentially and I do agree that it needs to be paved. However, as

you just heard from Warren, I too will reiterate the reason for my addressing the Commission today is the marker in which has been placed on or about our property line to pave McHenry Road. The property line across the road from our driveway on the curve is already bad enough. I think it's in the best interest to decrease the curve in the road by utilizing that property which is located on the west side going south. If you have not actually been out there to see for yourself, which

I highly recommend, you will see the growth on that property is so overgrown that traffic cannot see. Around that curve going south or north. And at this point, I'm surprised that we nor one of our visitors have not been hit while trying to turn into our driveway while driving traveling south. I know my family has contacted code enforcement in the past regarding this issue as well. In my opinion, by utilizing that property and increasing the curve, it should cut down.

But notice I said it should cut cut down and prayerfully will eliminate the crashes into the fence. I did have a question uh about the visionary road being ten years plus or minus ten years from now. And McHenry Road will become an emergency road but ten years. So thank you. Thank you for hearing me on this issue.

MarianoChair

Thank you.

Starkey

There is no one else signed up.

MarianoChair

No one else signed up for public comment? Does anyone from the audience like to speak about this item? Please come forward. And then you need a name and address and state whether they've

Starkey

been

MarianoChair

sworn.

Starkey

Uh you can he can just give his name and

Unidentified speakerVoice G

state whether he's been sworn. And state if you've been sworn. Okay. And have you been to one? Yes. Okay.

I'm a a current student athlete at Nest Hockey Academy. In September of 2022, I began attending Nest Hockey Academy, not knowing the journey I was embarking on. I have been in public school my whole life, so a part of me was unsure of the unknown. By Christmas, I knew my parents and I had made the right decision. I have always been an average student at best. But at the Nest, I finally had teachers that were willing to invest in. So much so that I finished the year with a 4.0 GPA, test scores 11%

over the national average, and most importantly confidence in myself. There was a day earlier in the school year that I had gotten so far ahead on my schoolwork that mister Henderson had me helping him build furniture. While this may seem different for a child to be building school furniture, I realized it was a skill I never would have learned at any other school. The Nest goes beyond math, science, reading, and social studies. It's helping shape us into good people with everyday life lessons. We are also being taught how to treat our bodies

right as growing athletes with nutrition and exercise tailored to our aging our capabilities. Today I urge you our Pasco County commissioners to pass the rezoning of this school I have come to love so that kids like me can be given the same opportunities.

MarianoChair

Great job. Thank you.

Anyone else from the audience?

11 question when we get

Unidentified speakerVoice H

Hi, Jack Melan Justice [address removed]. Um that was just my son. Hi.

Starkey

Have you been in Sworn?

Unidentified speakerVoice H

Yes, I have.

Starkey

Okay, thank you.

Unidentified speakerVoice H

Um sorry. As a follow up to what my son just said, I've personally witnessed the transformation of all these children on and off the ice. I'm speaking on behalf of all the parents today so that you don't have to listen to twenty other people say the same things. At the the Hendersons have created an opportunity for our children that most will never have. The opportunity that could lead to other opportunities not just based on hockey but on relationships and on sorry, based on relationships and being outstanding citizens of our community. Our children have plenty of opportunities to get in trouble.

They have chosen a more difficult path with higher expectations. These kids want to succeed. You won't see them all in the NHL, but you will see them all being successful, which is the goal. What an incredible opportunity the Henderson have created for our community in Pasco County. Some of the kids are here today in their chapel uniform and they would like to introduce themselves quickly to you if you would like to meet them. What's the right?

Unidentified speakerVoice G

Yeah. Yeah.

Unidentified speakerVoice H

Without this rezoning, the young men you see here today cannot cannot be furthered due to such strict oc occupancy limits. So we urge you to pass the rezoning so these student athletes can continue to learn, grow, play hockey, and most importantly, give other opportunities to young student athletes, give other student athletes the same opportunities that they have been given by the Henderson. Thank you.

MarianoChair

Thank you. All right, last call. Anyone else from the audience wanted to speak to the site? It's passed. We'll close close we're gonna close public comment? Okay. I'm gonna check on WebEx first. Nothing

Starkey

on web X? No, the two individuals that signed up for WebEx also came in person.

OakleyVice Chair

They came in person, okay.

MarianoChair

All

OakleyVice Chair

right, Commissioner Oakley. Um I guess the attorney would come back. I guess he could answer this better. Yeah, you you need to take applicant rebuttal

Unidentified speakerVoice C

before you Being a being commissioner discussion.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Great. Thank you, Chair. I just have a couple points I want to respond to and then I'm happy to respond to the Commissioner's question. One with respect to access, we're committed to encouraging everybody coming in a facility to exit. out McKendry towards Tyndall Road, the directions provided to come to the facility will direct all people. to come in that way. So that will eventually be the paved portion. Of McKendry. With respect to the question on the waiver for alcohol, I just

want to clarify there's not gonna be any alcohol served. During school hours, this is envisioned. Most private schools have a foundation. Foundations a lot of the time have fundraising events. So this just allows that as an option as well as if there were a special event held at the facility. As staff indicated, we still have to jump through the hurdle and actually get an administrative use permit to even do that. There was also several comments about this is a predominantly residential area. I

want to just briefly point out a few things. One, private schools are allowed in the AC zoning district as a special exception, which is how this got approved. Uh schools are also allowed uh anywhere in the county in the agricultural feature land use category which this property has. But more importantly, as staff uh commented upon and you've heard This site's located within Connected City. It's in the the business core part of that. It's very close to the urban core part of Connected City. It's

very close to the MPUD for the Pasco County Town Center that you all approved last summer. And it's in the South Market area, which your own comprehensive plan designates for higher densities and intensities. So again, this is an area and it and the staff I think described it very well. This area is in transition. In fact when I did a Google search on it, the first thing that comes up is you're all approval of the Pasco Town Center. the first uh neighbors who had spoken had questions regarding

the special exception and how it got approved, I just want the record to reflect there was a fully Notice public hearing held before the Planning Commission on that. Those unfortunately for those individuals their properties outside that require mail notice. So to the extent they didn't get mailed notice, that would be why. It wasn't something that was nefariously done. Uh there's a record of that hearing and has a copy of the published notice. Uh also just tying in, I think you saw it on the slide,

but that this process has been going on for a while. Uh and the staff has thoroughly reviewed this project. It's three and a half years in in the making for this final step. So it hasn't been something that has just been sort of railroaded through. uh any back doors or the like. And then lastly, just the question about the right-of-way and the paving. The required widening of McKinjury Road is within established right-of-way. So there's no expectation for any additional property to be taken.

The flags that one of the neighbors remarked, those are just simply survey stakes. That's not actually marking where the edge of pavement actually might go, but that was the first step. in moving forward with these roadway improvements is one to survey the area. So that's been done. That's in to the county for review and the like, but I w I wanted to clear up the the road widening is gonna happen within established right away. We're we're not taking anyone's problem. So thank you. And Commissioner Oakley, I'm happy to answer any questions.

OakleyVice Chair

Well you you pretty much in your statement you answered my question. One was about alcohol and and it being a school, a Christian school too, so I understand that. And um There was about Being um paying attention to the residential folks that are around there that uh make life as easy as possible for them 'cause you're coming in on them. They've been there a long time, so Um and the reason I use the term ten years for a Vision Road to come in, a

normal road in the county that we set to repave and rework. takes at least five years. So I know it's not gonna happen in less than five years, but that vision rode with the transition of things coming on the uh Pasco Town Center and all. That's gonna take a little time but that'll gradually get built. But between probably between the five and the ten years. And then when that happens, McKinley won't be paved but just a short distance. So I'd if I was a hundred

and fifty uh new people driving down the road, I'd come on the paved part rather than go down the dirt part in the fut near future. And then the vision road will take care of that in time as time comes. But Yeah, that was a reason, so But uh I think it'd be a great school. I think it'd be great for these kids and and hopefully we get great citizens for Pasco County right here in our area here. So I look forward to seeing that. With that,

I'd like to move approval.

MarianoChair

We have

OakleyVice Chair

a

MarianoChair

second. Second.

Starkey

Second.

MarianoChair

And I'm just gonna have a little further discussion just to say that um, you know, Commissioner Oakley, this was a a tough one. I know it was your district. Um I was approached by this by a s uh grandfather who has trouble watching his grandson play hockey for a long time. So I drove down, took a look at the site, and I want to say he built a Mr. Dennison built an amazing facility. Uh when I saw pictures of Steve and Sam Stam Coast and Victor Hedman there and uh the support that you had. I knew you had something going special. Uh seeing your students here today shows me just that. Never mind the

hockey mum. Yeah. Uh but going going through it uh you know why this was ever even limited to twenty units I couldn't understand. One thing I'd like to say with staff is they do look and to the applicant as well, is talk to the residents about where the roadway is going to go officially. Uh if there's a way to modify it without causing too much harm, if you can accommodate them and and m make it safer, I think we should take a look at doing that. But if you can Do that after the fact, that would be fine with me. Commissioner Starkey?

Starkey

Um a couple of things. Uh I did go visit that um building last year, maybe, maybe two years ago, time's flying. Um I think it's a phenomenal um asset to the county, but I get what the residents are saying it's uh that it appears to be in a uh area where it shouldn't, but I promise you you have massive changes coming to that area and you guys might want to meet with our staff so you understand what is coming at 52 and

75 because that area is very much changing and it's changing quickly. So um just so you can prepare and make decisions on your own property, take a look at what's coming in that area because it's not going to be like it is now.

MarianoChair

And I like to say w when I went out there to this site as well, I noticed driving in right at the telephone pole where Tyndall hits, there's a big sign there that's advertised. I think it's thirty five hundred units, a hotel, commercial, et cetera. So knowing that was part of Connected City, I checked to s be sure this was part of Connected City too. So yeah, a lot of things gonna change out there. Uh could be a lot to the benefit for you as well, but Um address. Commissioner Oakley, you do have some flu I wanna add some. I know no, I just I just want to go a little further and I'll give you the floor. Um

and I have one more

Starkey

thing.

MarianoChair

With V O P H they have the roads funded with extra surchies, et cetera. And Commissioner Oakley, if you want to push that along, I'm sure you'll have some influence to those folks to kinda help that vision road get done quickly sooner.

OakleyVice Chair

Yeah. Commissioner Oak I know everybody knows Moffitt, uh, cure for cancer is coming from Pasco County. It's a great thing for our citizens. Of it's a and it's a big deal. There's sixteen million square foot of warehouse, doctor's offices, research clinics and all this coming to that center park. It's right there east of Sun Coast and uh to the west of 41. It's huge, 16 million square foot of workspace

there. is is big. Right here at 52 and 75 where we're talking about today. is 21 million square feet. of warehouse and all that come into this area. The one if you've seen that huge building that's target's distribution center to the northeast of 75 and 52. That's a huge building. There's two buildings on this property between Fitch 2 and where

the school is. One of them is 1.3 million square feet on footprint. The other one's 1.6 million square foot on footprint. And right in our area in East Pasco in that area, there's there's coming 101,000 jobs in that area. Those are all different businesses. I mean, we there's a great deal happening in our area in East Pasco that we haven't ever seen before to be able to live here, play

here, get, you know, have go to school, go to college. here and actually end up because we're going to have jobs to be able to work here. So it's great for our citizens and we all want as many high paying jobs as we can get for our citizens. So but it's a great thing to be looking forward. Mr. Starkey.

Starkey

Um the other thing I want to say was actually the school districts do allow alcohol. Um when we built Starkey K eight and the cultural center next door. We Built into that the ability for um receptions and parties and fun you know, cocktail parties or whatever.

OakleyVice Chair

Kirkland Ranch has that. Yeah, so

Starkey

I mean there's all kinds of conditions with that, but it is possible that a school would have a fundraiser for adults and you know, have a glass of wine or whatever. So yeah. Mr. Tiffet.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Brad Tippett. Planning and development. Just one other clarification there. Uh this is only for the the distance waiver for alcohol. This doesn't mean that they would be able to serve or anything. They still have to go through those other processes should they want to do it at that site. But this is something that we're putting at all of the MPs that have non-residential components in Connected City, uh, because that area is meant to be dense, it's meant to be close, and we don't want a person to not be able to have a side Cafe serving wine because they're nine hundred and ninety-five feet from a school or vice versa. So there's there's a bunch of reasons why

we do that. We put in all the MPDs in this area that are non residential. So it's not specific to them. It's not that they've requested it.

Starkey

But you said they have to come in for a permission every time?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Correct. There's there's a uh to actually serve alcohol there's a separate permit that's required in the permit. Why are we doing that? Uh that is uh what your

Unidentified speakerVoice C

code requires for all all people who serve alcohol. It's You used to have

Starkey

a don't say all people. I have friends over at my house and I promise you I don't get any publicly

Unidentified speakerVoice C

still.

Those used to be public hearing that came before you. They're now just administrative.

Starkey

Okay. All right. So they just have to ask permission to be able to have that. And it's not for every time, it's just for one time.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

It depends on the the what's being done. But yes like a like a Chile's we do it one time for their facility and but yes. Okay, got it.

MarianoChair

And Brad if you would just um get with the residents as well as as well as the applicant about that

Unidentified speakerVoice B

safety part. And I will give them uh we can set up a time to talk and I'll vote um

MarianoChair

Okay. Very good. Okay. All right. Motion has been mo made and seconded. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries 4-0. We'll go to item P46.