Development Agreement (Regular) - Wildcat Groves, Inc. - To Design, Permit, Construct, Dedicate, and Convey a Certain Portion of the Realigned Mckendree/Boyette Road in Exchange for Transportation Development Fee Credits - Central Pasco - On the East Side of McKendree Road and North of Overpass Road - On Approximately 176 Acres

1:16:37in favor say aye. Only two. Yes. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye. Consent at best. Consent agenda passes. Item P101. We have proof.

1:16:49Yes, Mr. Chair. Item um item P one oh one was published Campaign Times on September twenty seventh, twenty

1:16:54twenty three. Item P101 will be presented by my colleague Galen Covey. Thank you.

1:16:59Thank you.

1:17:11Sony.

1:17:14And then we also have the MPUD on 102. Would you rather hear the MPUD first or the DA first?

1:17:23Uh

1:17:23let's see we got

1:17:30Sure.

1:17:30Well.

1:17:34Okay, so if it's okay we'll start with the DA and then move to the M Pew D.

1:17:40Okay.

1:17:41Yes, one on one, I'm so sorry.

1:17:45PDD 240018, the Wildcat Bayels Development Agreement. Here is location within the county. Here's a location within all connected city.

1:18:00Here's just a quick brief of the matching road we plan. As you can see the bottom half right here, you can see the primary road. Going north. Where the subject property is.

1:18:15And so the appearance request is to set forth the terms and conditions for the developer to design permit. and construct certain roadway improvements, including floodplain compensation, weld and mitigation, drainage, retention associated with the McKindry slash Boyette Road segment. And so they're gonna be building the one fifty B B uh typical, uh which is designated in the Connected City uh master railway plan. Uh this typical is not the final typical for McKindry but what the developer will actually be building whenever they

1:18:45come in. Um For their project. The final typical is 150cc and this is ultimately going to be a six lane road. The developer will be running a four-lane road. Um so They will be providing the wetland mitigation, uh stormwater, everything else needed for the final typical now so that whenever we do upgrade to the six lane road, it's already there. We don't have to go back and rip it all out and be kind of productive. Is that McKinbury Road? Yeah, McKendry

1:19:16and and Boyette.

1:19:18I'm sorry. That will end up six lane?

1:19:21Yeah, it will end up uh six lane. It is gonna go through the business core and up into the urban core, so it's gonna be a major north south south growing Connecticut City. Yeah. Uh so They will be getting transportation and development fee credits, um kind of what Mike Karbala talked about earlier, uh Kennedy City's financial plan. Uh essentially they're gonna be building the road in exchange for credits. So instead of paying their mobility fees, they'd get credits whenever they apply for site plans. So they'd be getting those credits and we'd be getting the infrastructure in place.

1:19:52Right. Um And this

1:19:53this would put the infrastructure in place ahead of time. Yeah. It's a beautiful thing.

1:19:57And so uh they are required to have their their service rate site acreage completed before any credits are issued. So this is gonna be uh employment generating uses like like we had talked about earlier, Seth, uh or Commissioner Weightman. And uh and yeah, so So yeah, this comes with just a recommendation of approval. Okay. Any questions for staff?

1:20:21Okay. It's a public hearing item P101. Is anyone here to speak in opposition to P01? Mr. Hobby.

1:20:28Mr. Chairman Clark Hobby, Hobby and Hobby, PA 109 North Brussel Street, Tampa, Florida, have been sworn. Uh we're here to answer any questions you have, but as staff noted, this is the companion item that goes with the the zoning amendment that follows, and this allows us to build that large stretch of McKendry for fee credits. And as the Chairman noted, the idea behind doing this in Connected City is to get ahead of the growth. So that's why we're here today. This is the same form DA we've used

1:20:59on other projects in Connected City. Okay. Thank you.

1:21:04Mr. Chairman signed up and I have someone signed up but there's no name associated to it. So um I've got Mr I think it's Polterbrock. Michael?

1:21:18Yes, ma'am. I was not sworn in. I apologize. I was not in the room.

1:21:22If you could raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God.

1:21:28Yes.

1:21:29Thank you. You may proceed.

1:21:30Thank you. Um

1:21:31state your name and address for the record before.

1:21:33Michael Pultoric, [address removed].

1:21:35Thank

1:21:36you. In the middle of the Pasco Connected City. Um first I'd like to thank the Chairman for bringing up a very important word earlier called

1:21:46infrastructure. There's now I just counted two. Oh, that's not even for this one. I apologize. That's well you can leave it up. That's all right. This is the links and associates traffic studies. They're from 2013. They were updated in 2014. A lot of these maps, a lot of the things you're being shown have I'm sure older studies associated with this, and that's very important because things keep getting added to this plan, the big plan. I've now counted two projects that were added. To this project, Bobcat and then Ketten are also going to be spoken about the utilizing

1:22:17the same roads. Here's the problem. We have not heard about infrastructure. What you're telling us is there are going to be thirty thousand residents added in the next nine years to the Pasco Connected City. That's the equivalent of Brandon. Down in Hillsboro. I don't know if you've been there lately. As a resident? We all left. There's a lot of people, not enough infrastructure when you needed it, not enough schools, not enough public safety.

1:22:46What your voters see is Pasco for Penny. Penny for Pasco, I apologize. Over this decade is giving us $1.9 billion to the county. Eight hundred and fifty five million is for schools. 342 million is for transportation. 171 million is for public safety. We are yet to hear where the fire stations are going. We are yet to hear where the public schools are going. and we

1:23:16do not accept the explanations for why the proper roads aren't being put in to protect the existing residents. I bring this up because Hillsborough County Fire Rescue just opened the third fire station on the main dragon Brandon, And on day one, it became the second most busy fire station in all of Hillsborough County Fire Rescue. And they run over 130,000 calls per year. That station was fifteen years overdue.

1:23:47They finally found the land for it. They finally got it built, and it is the second busiest fire station in the county. At the hearing With plans two weeks ago. We were told the Epperson School property was given back. We also know Vito's Way is on its way. It would have utilized that property. And the Marata property for schools for a public K through eight is not in the ten year budget for The school board of it.

1:24:18That's an issue. Charter schools are not the answer for everything. They add to the transportation issue.

1:24:26They don't have busing. The ones we have are not accountable and not in good standing in that area with the school board. We need a K through eight, at least one, in a high school, identified to be inside the connected city. We need to know where two fire stations are going to go in to protect the 30,000 residents. And we know that we need to know that you are going to make the commitment to us that the infrastructure is going to be put in for the current residents. So that we are not

1:24:56penalized by the non-residents that would like to move here. We hear a lot of protection for future residents, but we would like to hear about some protection for your current voting residents. Thank you. Thank you.

1:25:11Is there anyone else else out here that's up to speak to P item one oh P one oh one?

1:25:19Yeah,

1:25:19sorry.

1:25:22I was the one who forgot to write my name down. Jim Marineri. My address is [address removed]. Uh

1:25:33and I'm sorry, you've been sworn.

1:25:34Oh yes, and I have been sworn.

1:25:36Thank you.

1:25:36Uh first I I'd like to thank Um Commissioner Weightman for bringing the connected city issues kind of the forefront last month. Um it's something that's been on our mind for a long time. Uh there have been positives and negatives to this whole thing. I mean uh Metro Development and Height Design created this thing for their benefit and then it kind of got extended out to this entire

1:26:07area uh that we're that we're talking about connected city. The problem is that the guidance that was given, I guess, to to y'all to approve the these things and make it cohesive and and kind kind of tie the vision together, it just it it kind of somewhere it there was a disconnect. And we've got situations that were uh that that are being uh approved, sort of like what y'all were discussing

1:26:37earlier uh with with the Pasadena Hills. Uh they're they're kind of getting approved and then you're like, Well what happens when this next one re makes a request? Um we uh the the This particular motion or request, I have no problem with. Um, as long as it is a requirement to do. This particular intersection where this development and this project is

1:27:07going to be, which is going to be the entrance to a major hospital and and and retail and residences. Multifamily units is a nightmare. If you go and you look at overpass and Boyette, it is very short section before you get to McKendry. I did speak to the applicants counsel, and he said that they were going to follow through with the master roadway plan to kind of straighten

1:27:38it out, create an intersection. Section as opposed to a 90-degree curve and then continue it on. That is acceptable to the residents in the area, at least those that trust me. But I'd like for that to be kind of like set in stone, that we don't have some come after this if this may for some reason fall by

1:28:08the wayside and be able to take this MPUD and say, Well we're we we don't need it like that. We want to use this and so we're gonna change it. So just codify it for us. Make it so that we can't kind of get uh uh backdoored later and just keep in mind the overall vision of the connected city. Thank you. Thank you.

1:28:36Is there anyone else here to speak to item P one oh one?

1:28:41I have no one on W WebEx for P one oh one.

1:28:43I see someone rising though. Alright.

1:28:48I've never done this before. I didn't swear in, so

1:28:51you want to sort

1:28:52of

1:28:53else who may speak at this point that hasn't been sworn in yet? Okay.

1:28:59Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God. Yes. Thank you. Um you may proceed to state your name and address first and then then st then your comments.

1:29:10Kendra McKinney, [address removed]. I've lived there for twenty-seven years. I have ten acres. It's been beautiful. But unfortunately, with the hospital going in and now Kenton Road, more more homes going in, our road is going to be used as a highway. I'm very, very concerned about that. We've already had to deal with Elam Road. being shut down for over a year now. Dump trucks coming through, flying through. I don't I

1:29:40don't feel like there's been enough development and the roads like Kent needs to be finished before you even start building homes on Kenton Road. Um to go to overpass where they can hold the congestion. We can't. We're to you know, we're A two lane highway. Or not even a highway, a road. So that is my number one concern. Number two, I have never been notified of any of these projects which are on both ends of my road. Why

1:30:10is that? Why do these things get approved without the residents being notified? Even Road residents, raise your hand. They never got any notification either. Why? Why is that? How can that legally be okay? I live there. These people don't live there. They just want to make money. I mean I'm sorry, I'm just being very blank.

1:30:33Five hundred feet of the property gets notified by written five hundred feet from the From the boundaries of the rezoning we get a written letter.

1:30:44And that's

1:30:45then there's newspaper advertisement, it's published on the website and there are signs posted.

1:30:50So do you get the newspaper? Because I sure don't. How many people won't hear a newspaper now?

1:30:56Please address the board.

1:30:57Okay, I'm sorry. Do you get the newspaper?

1:31:00I do not.

1:31:01I read it every day. You the only one? 'Cause I don't. I don't know anybody that really does anymore. I'm not trying to be rude, but I didn't know of these things. Now that I've heard, I'm very concerned and I will be here and I will have a voice because it's my land. It's not your land. It's not their land. It's I paid for my land. I pay taxes and I have a right to know when you're using my road or going to use not only my road, our roads I should be. Weren't

1:31:32the for that. But anyway. I think I have a right to know when there's gonna be a huge hospital at one end of my road and the other road, they're building townhomes and soon to be apartments and houses. That's not okay. I mean something's gotta change here. Where is America? Where are we at? We are the landowners. That's all I have to say. Anything you want to ask me?

1:32:00No is not the dumb though. Please don't clap.

1:32:08No, we don't we don't we don't we don't dialogue back. Thank you.

1:32:14All right, anyone else to speak this item in the audience? Anyone on WebEx?

1:32:19Mr. Chair, I'm Mr.

1:32:21I see a gentleman coming forward. Is there is there anyone else who'd like to speak, please line up? I'm gonna close public comment after this gentleman if no s no one else lines up.

1:32:30Mr. Chairman before he begins I just want to make sure um the first gentleman who spoke, uh your name I don't know, but it's Pol H Pol Horak.

1:32:42He had displayed something on the screen and I don't know if he wanted it as part of the record and so there hasn't been a motion um to accept the filing. So Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

1:32:58My name is Juan Contreras. I live on Elam Road also.

1:33:02Have you been sworn?

1:33:03No.

1:33:03Okay, go ahead and raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, so help you God?

1:33:11Yes.

1:33:11Okay. Um could you please restate your name and address for the record and then you can be.

1:33:15Juan Contreras, uh [address removed].

1:33:19Okay, thank you, you may proceed.

1:33:21All right. Um so last time I brought it up with the other committee about Yeah. people coming down Elam Road, I live on the curve, have ran into our fence five times and once it was a deputy, Pasco County deputy, that did it. The road's about to open up. These people are trying to get approved for this master plan uh development. I just wanna know what you guys are planning on doing with Elam Rowe. Because as soon as this road opens up

1:33:52in the next month or so, we're gonna have everybody bypassing Overpassed to get to 75 going down our road. And n there's a there's one little sign that says ten miles an hour right before you get to the S curve. It's a buck a few hundred feet away. That's the only thing you have. Everybody flies through there. You can hear them inside the house when cars are screeching by. I don't know if you guys can do uh speed bumps out

1:34:22there to slow cars down. But I know that Something has to be done because as soon as they open this road up in the next month or so, whenever they're planning on doing it Um we're gonna have have a lot of crazy people driving through a anybody north of Elam Road is not going to go all the way to overpass to make a right-hand turn at the public when they can bypass it. So I'm assuming it's gonna be at least hundreds of cars every day in both directions coming through there. And I'm at the I'm right the the road

1:34:52dead ends right into my property and then it S curves. At night there's no lights out there. There's one little sign that shows that it's supposed to turn. That's the only thing we have out there. I have kids. My kids cannot go on the bus because They have to be at least a couple hundred feet back. from the road in case somebody comes through there. I don't think I should have to protect my kids in front of my house. a couple of hundred feet back from the road because some crazy person can just come flying through. So

1:35:23I'm just curious to find out what you guys are planning on doing with Elam Rhode. And the near future?

1:35:30So that's the right-of-way. We I mean we all wanna know.

1:35:35Yeah. Thank you. Ramper can reach out to We'll we'll have staff talk later on, but that's all for public comment, unless you have more.

1:35:46And that next one in. Okay. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth so help you God? Yes. Thank you. Palm state your name and address for the record and then you

1:35:57can proceed. Okay. Carmen Patton [address removed]. Thank you. So I'm neighbors with both that came and spoke. I look on the short sharp curve where Boyette turns into Elam and I've had people crash into my house and my yard for years, just like J C now. And he's right on right on Elam when they go. So it's supposed to be thirty, they're not. His fence, his kids, I mean all of my kids are gone now. But all of us are concerned about

1:36:27that, especially with all this extra new traffic. It it is a really big concern if you guys open that road. with hundreds of cars before it was closed for construction, I would I mean this is rural Pasco, horses, chickens, pigs. I would have to wait to pull out, which is fine. I mean gross head's fine, but the cars crashing constantly are a real big concern. So it would be nice to see something. I know there's something

1:36:57flashed up there about McKendry, um and the roads coming close to the lake I live on, which is kind of concerning as well. But it's Elam Road that nobody goes thirty and and J C's kids can't play outside. already without cars without any cars. So is that how can we get further information on on this or what traffic's gonna safety's gonna do about Elam?

1:37:28We can get those answers to them. We'll we'll ask staff to talk about it at the public.

1:37:33Okay. All right, great. And then we'll reach out to you.

1:37:37Elam? [address removed]. Yeah, my prop [address removed]. Thank you. So my property actually Uh is property line with wildcat groves and the hospital and all that which is quite shock shocking in itself. Thank you.

1:37:53Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Uh any else for public comment in the audience? Anybody else on WebEx?

1:38:01I have no one on WebEx for this item. Wait, I'm sorry. This is P one oh one, right?

1:38:07P one oh one yes.

1:38:08Okay. No one on WebEx.

1:38:12Mr. Hobbie.

1:38:13Yeah, Mr. Chairman Mari Hobby again. Uh I I just I shouldn't belabor this, but I've got to answer a few of these things so the record is straight. The uh the neighbors are alleging that we're not putting the infrastructure in place to serve development and connected city and that is just flat out wrong. The purpose of this development agreement is for us to build what's going to be likely be a combination four-lane and transitioning to two-lane road in advance of development. A very extensive

1:38:43and expensive roadway. We are working in advance through the development community and the fee credits to build these roads so that the county doesn't have to come back later and do it on its timeline, which I assure you and was as was stated earlier would be much later than we're going to do it. We're going to build it in advance of development. There were statements about school board issues and those really aren't germane to this item, but I do want to tell you because I've

1:39:13been talking with the school board at great length and I'm just going to rattle off a few things for the record about school sites that the school board either already owns in close proximity to this area or has reserved. Kirkland K through eight is going to open next year. There's extra acreage in the Kirkland site, they could build another school. The school board has a high school site over a hundred acres on Hancar. The school board has a sixty-acre site on the north side of McCabe Road, Clinton Road. just outside

1:39:44of Connected City where we were looking at that map earlier. There is a reserve 44-acre site in Maratha. There's a reserve site in Harvest Hills. There's a reserve site in Evans, Pasadena, and there are other ones reserved in this area. What the school board does is it gets ahead of the growth and it plans for these things. And when there are new wings, new schools needed, they use the fee credits that or the fees that we're paying. And they get ahead and they build it. And

1:40:14for that reason, we don't have concurrency issues in Pasco County the way that many other counties do. And the simple fact of the matter is, I looked at the school board's freeze study, which is their enrollment study this year, they are 25% away from having a concurrency failure in their school system. If you measure it the way it legally has to be done. This county. So that's just totally, totally wrong. Are there areas where schools are approaching capacity? Yes. And

1:40:44sometimes they get over, but the school board here does a great job of building the facilities in advance so we don't have the problems that Hillsboro has had for years and people like that. Uh there were questions about Elam Road. And I'll address this further in the next agenda item, but I want the board to understand that we're going to be correcting the 90-degree curve problem at Elam as part of this project. We are going to be bringing Elam straight into our site and they'll either be

1:41:14a roundabout or a signal that will be in the area where the hospital is to go and that will eliminate one of the biggest safety issues that has existed on Elam for many years. But make no mistake, Elam Road was built and has been a collect paved collector road for many, many years. The way it was built and designed, that was the county's doing. And if the county wants to change other sections of Elam away from our site, they're welcome to do so. But we're doing the responsible thing, working

1:41:45with your staff to make the situation better in this project. So with that, I I'd ask the board to move forward on the development remote. Yeah.

1:41:54I

1:41:54think can we uh park or county what uh question he did bring up fire stations so I'm curious do we have something planned in the area?

1:42:02You know w they the fire department public safety are involved in all of our MPUDs, they get you know they get notice and they tell us and as an example they've asked for a new fire station site at out at Cruz and Douglas and that will be part of that. MPUD. We did not receive one on this site and I assume that when they need another site in Connected City, they'll ask for one as part of the many MPUDs.

1:42:29Answering that question, please. Thank you.

1:42:32There is a fire station right there on um when you enter Watergrass on the left. So From this.

1:42:38We'll need another one out there eventually.

1:42:40Yeah. All right.

1:42:41Can we hit one in from staff? Are we good? Mode approval.

1:42:44Thanks.