Task Order No. EDO24-002 – Ayres Associates Inc. – Jasmine Boulevard (US 19 to Little Road) Pathway Design and Post Design Services – $214,747.57

32:48Aye. Motion pass 5-0. Okay, we'll start with uh polling discuss is C twenty four. Uh C twenty four,

32:57Mr. Chairman? Yes

32:58sir.

32:59So it's in uh my district here, it's been a it's nice to see this project coming forward, but there's a couple of points I want to bring out that I did talk to staff from before when they were d setting up how this was going to be designed. Uh if we put the pictures up.

33:23As you see the line coming across from nineteen from l going from left to right, there's a big lit pond that's there. That's a stormwater pond that I'd like to get cleaned out and I've talked about it several times before. Uh we're trying to work a f find a way to get it done. All the r rainwater in that area goes into that pond. So over the past fifty years, tons of silt have gone in there. And a heavy rain will tend to cause flooding in that area around it, instead of being able to take the water in.

33:52uh decamp d uh contaminants that are in there are ar aren't a pleasant sight. It's a nice little Area to kind of walk around. And if I'm going to put a sidewalk around half

34:05Agreed. So is this uh in the the city or is it in the It's in

34:09the County.

34:09It's in the county.

34:10Yeah, it's in uh Jasmine Jasmine Lakes uh development. Okay. The sidewalk project runs up down on the through. There's a school that's actually just to the north. Day Spring Academy's uh elementary school is right above there. Uh so that they they would like to see and they asked for this when they got there a few years back, to have a sidewalk going in there for the residents to come back and forth.

34:31No.

34:31It's well Jasmine Lakes is it's already it's been a lot of the

34:35It's around there, but that's not a part of the actual property of the Jasmine Lakes.

34:39It's not a well it's uh we used to actually main the Jasmine Lakes used to maintain it. The civic association went defunct. But there's no C D D or anything else. It is just an old uh development that has been there that doesn't have a C D D that's mandatory to join, so an anything that's out there would be voluntary. So we we have now taken over the maintenance of that whole area anyway. And frankly, if we do put the sidewalk around the whole area that's actually less grass to mow creates a better amenity for the area. I do have a cost savings measure too that can be offset here. Uh if you look at the thank you very

35:09much, Sonia. Uh if you look at the picture here It shows a the red line that's right there. The sidewalk on the north runs from there all the way down out to Walgreens out on Little Road. That sidewalk may not need to be replaced. Um What

35:25are you talking about? Because I don't see a red line.

35:27There's a little red uh dot? There's a red dot there. On the left side of the screen.

35:31Oh the red dot? It

35:31says Jasmine Boulevard. Yeah. So from right about that point, there's a sidewalk that runs from there all the way down to Walgreens.

35:38Going to our right.

35:39Going to the right. So and and I'm not sure how good it is or how bad it is. I've looked at it, it doesn't look bad. But There may be something we could say, okay, we don't need to do it there, maybe we put it on the other side, maybe it's only a five foot sidewalk. Um Also with this picture, there's a crosswalk that's gonna go at that red dot there or even dou closer to Maricopa. Maricopa, right after that, there's a heavy turn that's here and there's been a there's a bunch of uh Is this a retirement home type thing, a assisted living facility that's there or that has been Let's

36:10say hit as it make the turn. So I think if it goes back to where the neighborhood is uh the crosswalk probably there makes more sense as opposed to up the street further, especially anyone go heading the other way can just stay on that sidewalk. So with those adjustments, I don't think the thing needs to come back to us, but I do definitely want to see the circle around. the lake done and then let them go look and see if do we really need to replace the sidewalk there and what the plan eventually will be.

36:36I don't know. Does this this fall under your team, Ranford?

36:41So I see Nick Jarins in the room.

36:47There comes

36:47Nick.

36:51Good morning Commissioner Yeah is Nick Uran, you're a county engineer. Yeah. And and yes, we have spoken with Commissioner Mariano and we are aware of these requests. Um just for context, um I I want to say both that I really appreciate the investment that that the commissioners make in the details of our projects to ensure that we are constructing the the best infrastructure for our communities. And then I also want to note that we have received a um a grant through the MPO planning process, a transportation alternatives grant for this pathway. It

37:22will be an eight-foot pathway all the way from US 19 to um to Little Road. And it will include crosswalks at particular locations that we will work out together with the community and the commissioner's office. We are going to be using raised crosswalks along the corridor as a traffic calming measure to in uh to ensure that the speeds within this community are appropriate for the character. and the environment that we're seeking to create.

37:47Do we have funds to take care of this pond? Do we have

37:51fine too? That's more of a public works question. That's that's um I'm I can speak to the pathway and uh and then Jason and Bramford maybe can can chime in on the cost associated with maintaining the pond. I know there's been discussions about that, but I I think they'll fill in the details better than I do.

38:06Mr. Chairman Mariano. Yes. So just Just remember that And I don't know whose responsibility this pond is, but this could be the HOA's responsibility. And just because the HOA went under doesn't relieve them of the responsibility of that pond. So we have tools. 'Cause uh to to handle that is called a M SBU because I've had many a neighborhood come to me and say, R H O Wa went under And, you know, we're supposed to take care of these ponds. N now we wanna hand 'em to you and I No.

38:38because there are many HOAs who are paying for for the amenities and the ponds and now you're gonna ask them to pick up the ones who decided not to pay the HOA fee anymore. I I don't think I think everyone has a responsibility.

38:52So we see this a lot in my district and a lot on the on the west side when we have these older neighborhoods. But Um I'm I am all for that sidewalk going around that pond. But as far as taking over any other responsibilities that is the neighborhood of Jasmine Whatever, 'cause I think I saw they have a clubhouse down the street.

39:11Uh Clubhouse was when the the club went under, it was donated to the school.

39:16Okay, I I thought I saw something down down on the right. But anyway, um that Anything more than that I would say is responsibility of the homeowners living in there and I if You know, I would encourage them to get together and That's a way to re s kind of reestablish an H O A. So

39:33Um Bradford, can you come back and talk about this pond? Or how we'll take care of this or is it our responsibility?

39:41Good morning, Commissioner Star Bramford, Assistant County Administrator. We have established that we have maintenance responsibility. Uh that pawn benefits the county in terms of stormwater flowing off the properties and the road. So uh the team has been working in that area. I think they've gone in there and maintained the grass and all that. But that maintenance responsibility falls on us. Uh in terms of doing the work, yes, Public Works has the internal resources to get it

40:11done and the contract on hand to get it done. Uh I'm not sure of the schedule if Jason is here, he can respond to that, but yes. there are plans to maintain that pond. Okay.

40:22And if I if I could Bradford, you've got a phenomenal team. I mean they they did another project over in Gulf Hallens that uh there was an old pond that was there that was like flooding out all around and that was one of us very successful stormwater projects down at Ashwood. by cleaning that whole pond out, what you do is you open the whole thing up And watching your guys in there were the mucky mucks.

40:41Yeah.

40:44They get cleaned up.

40:45They they they did phenomenal. Yeah. I mean these guys are skilled. Massive. And this is like an easy this is even easier because that one had like a a cliff to go up. This is like a simple Drive in and go. So I I know you guys can do it. So rather than even spending extra money on a contractor, I think you got a team that could get that done. Yes, we do have the

41:01in house team, the capability to do that and the equipment to get it done. Okay.

41:07Um so let's get Nick back up on the t podium here. All right. Thank you. So so Nick, we and we when we talked and obviously the conditions of M PO and w of what the D O T wants to do, et cetera, they picked one side to the other side. Is that pretty much what what goes on?

41:22That's that's correct. I was gonna make that point, uh Mr. Chair. It just so that uh the commission understands. We applied for a grant to construct the pathway from uh US nineteen to Little. The grant specified the location of the pathway and the grant will fund the cost for design and construction in that location. If we want to do more than that and build additional pathway segments, then that would have to be done with county resources. And so I I I don't have any problem with receiving commission direction to allocate additional resources, but there will

41:52be a gap between the cost of the pathway. And the additional segments that we would construct to to close the loop around the circle, around the lake.

42:00So maybe if we looked at it a little bit closer to like the the existing sidewalk that's already down on part of it? If I didn't do all of that and I did the difference to what's around here, because I think this is I mean to go tear up something and go put more asphalt down doesn't make a lot of sense if it's in good shape and again I want to check it out first. And then if you have to do a a different section of it, maybe the other side of the road, whatever, so be it. But This is such such a strong benefit and you get a school that's right there as well. One person going one side, the other side I I think it's

42:30is it's a worthy investment to get done. Plus if we're doing the maintenance anyway, if I've got an eight put fa path going around it, that's a lot less mowing I gotta do as well anyway. So if the board would allow me to work with Nick, work with DOT, see if we can extend the grant out or come back with uh what the what the cost would be to go Do it do it this way.

42:52We can do

42:53the balance but let me see if I can go get the grant first with DOT. I think I think there's a reasonable argument to get the whole thing.

42:58Okay.

43:00You'll make a motion.

43:01So I'll make a motion to approve with taking a further step with UT to try to expand the project.

43:07Yeah, got a motion and a second. By roll call vote.

43:11District two, Commissioner Weightman. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford.

43:17All right.

43:18District five, Commissioner Mariano. Aye. District one, Chairman Oakley. Aye. Motion pass five zero.

43:24Aye. And Nick Bradford, thank you guys very much. You guys are awesome. Appreciate all your great work.