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Zoning Amendment (Consent) – Northridge MPUD Master Planned Unit Development – Northridge 829, LLC - A Substantial Modification to Increase the Residential Density from 700 Units to 770 Units (Detached and Villas) on Approximately 178.15 Acres - Located South of and Abutting County Line Road North, 1.25 Miles Northwest of the Suncoast Parkway.

Recommendation Approval with ConditionsPDE-24-7795District 5

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PDE-24-7795 was taken up 2 times between Sep 5, 2024 and Sep 19, 2024 — this is appearance 2.

  1. Sep 5, 2024PlanningPC2No disposition in the minutes
  2. Sep 19, 2024PlanningPC8Approvedthis item

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Denise

Mr. Chair, the following item is item PC eight. I believe that will be presented by Mr. William Vermillion.

GreyChair

Okay. William.

Planning and Development staff

Good afternoon. William Vermillion, Planning Development, Economic Growth. Before you today is a substantial amendment to the Northridge MPD, PDE 247795.

This substantial amendment is to Add an additional 70 dwelling units to the previously approved 700 residential dwelling units and 60,000 square feet of non-residential that was approved in 2022.

This project is A budding county line road north. And it's one point two five miles. from the Sun Coast Parkway. Here's a rough location map showing this uh substantial amendment to the master plan year development. A location map.

The zoning map reflecting its current MPUD zoning.

Unidentified speaker

Mm-hmm.

Planning and Development staff

a future land use map.

Which I believe It's not updated because that says res one. That looks like it was prior to this. Is it is it now P D it is a P D flu now. So Here's a rough contextual map showing you County Line Road, as well as the existing Northridge MPD. You do have the Pasco mine that exists to the east, as well as one currently approved MPUD, which is Land Trust No. 76, which was approved for 120 multifamily units, 55 single-family

detached, and 70,000 square feet of commercial office uses.

Here is the proposed master plan.

The commercial is on the frontage of the county line road. And this is a binding conceptual plan, but only for the additional seven units which are being added. You can see those additional seventy units that are being added there in purple and in yellow in the middle of this conceptual plan.

Currently these additional 70 units are subject to the recently amended policy memo 26 that was uh approved by the Board of County Commissioners.

This was a previously approved variation from the code from 9016 eleven. The applicant uh didn't uh uh provide a connection to the south, but that's in accordance with the previously approved MPUD in which that variation was approved by the BCC, they do provide an emergency access to the South. With this, this comes to you guys with or this comes to the Planning Commission with a recommendation of approval with conditions to the Board of County Commissioners. All right. Any questions?

Thank you very much.

Barbara Wilhite

Good afternoon. Barbara Wellhead, sixty-three twenty-seven Grand Boulevard, New Port Richey. Three, four, six, five, two. And I have been sworn, thanks to Clark. Mm-hmm. Um so we saw you with regard to this project in 2022. At that time it was before you for 770 single family residential units and forty thousand square feet of commercial. Couple things have happened since we saw you and you recommended approval to the BCC. We got to I got to the board meeting and

Commissioner Mariano said I think sixty thousand sounds better than forty thousand. I said we only did our traffic study for forty thousand. So but I'm trying to always work something out, which is what I do. You all know that. I said, all right, well we'll agree to sixty thousand, we'll reduce our units to seven hundred Then we'll do the traffic study to justify the 60,000 requested by the commissioner and the 770, which is what we were proposing for our project and still are. So we have done that. The other thing that happened,

interestingly enough, was that Hernando County terminated the sewer interlocal and said, We're not going to provide sewer to this area. So, and that was went back and forth for a bit. And my client said, You know, we're gonna actually construct this project. Sat down with the county through Mike Carbala, ultimately David Allen, and worked out a utility services agreement. Utilities cut bringing the utilities up. Up Shady Hills Road over County Line Road north to this project area is an eight million dollar project, which the county is is funding a part of it.

So we certainly don't want now to be under, you know, not providing density in this area because the county needs those those payers. Ultimately, they're making an investment in bringing water and sewer to this area. So that's what brought us to where we are today, which is we did the traffic analysis now for the 60,000 square feet of commercial that's already approved, the 70 additional units to make it 770 so that the paperwork was done properly. Probably could have just agreed to the 60 and 770 and not nobody's not say anything about the traffic analysis, was only

done based upon 40,000. But I wanted to do it right. So we're back doing it right here before you. And then we've also wanted to tell you about the update. So there's no longer a reliance upon an interloco with Hernando County. There's actually been a partnership between a developer, a substantial partnership between a developer and this county. So the county is providing central water and sewer.

The Hernandez County side's growing and our side until until that was commitment was done by this developer in the county, our side was just blighting. So So I think it's um it's a good thing and that's the history. It's a little bit different um than n normally what you see, so I wanted to make sure you understood that history. Not sure exactly what the uh public comment is, but we'll be ready to discuss it depending on what it is. Thank you.

GreyChair

Okay. Thank you.

All right. Who do we have uh on the list?

Denise

Um on this one I have Mr. Ken Rokowski.

GreyChair

Mr. Burkowski, are you here?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Sorry for my appearance.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Uh previously we met on this about the uh

Unidentified speaker

name and address for the record.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

This development. We need your

GreyChair

name and your

Unidentified speakerVoice B

address. Oh okay, sorry. Ken Rikowski, [address removed]. Okay. It's in the Leisure Hill Subdivision, 1,000 acres, 651 lots. The big concern here and it was and Miss Barber did not mention it. is that County Line Road never did get the funding. to go ahead and make it into a four lane. F DOT has gone ahead and done numerous studies. And recommended that it be done, but

for some reason the county just can't come up with the money to do it. So we're stuck with a traffic problem. Also we have the issue of their um west exit which goes on to uh Carlissimo. which four teenagers had died previously in a car crash when they came over the hill and impacted an oak tree. My other concern is the fact that it's on an an ecological protection unit. And

that property, my property and all the properties around there do not have a drainage issue. We're at a hundred feet. Elevation dropping down to eighty. And there are multiple depressions in that property. that are direct drainage through conduits to the Wiki Wachi Springs. So my concerns are what's gonna happen with all of the water that is now just gonna flow because there is no such thing as flooding there. Every time it rains. It

just disappears. Debbie can come through, it's gone.

I wonder you know sense the the flow from that goes at a rate of one mile per day. It's been Geological survey has already done it. It h it shows two conduits from two depressions that are on the property. So if we go ahead and change the the um the contour of the land, what is gonna happen with all that, especially since the fact that we're all on we're all on wells. Every single property is on a well. So all the fertilizer? All

the insecticides Runoff from cars, buildings, roofs. It's going straight into the ground. There is no drainage. I mean there is no filtering. I understand my time's up.

GreyChair

So you

got

another minute.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Okay. But I I'm j I'm just saying, you know, we have issues with the traffic right now. You can't turn on the County Line Road. to go westbound off of Alexand. Alexon is the main road to go out of our subdivision to there. and it would intersect with Carlissimo when you come over the hill for it. And when you get up to the corner, you have to sit there and wait and hopefully but now Lavano has opened up. So what people are doing now is going right. and going to make a U-turn. So

you sit there in their turn lane with your turn signal on. than a car could be waiting for a turn to uh chance to go. And They're coming up out of theirs with their turn signal on. And two cars go out onto the road at the same time while they're flying over County Line Road. So The extra extra homes we're we we're talking ten percent more. Which doesn't sound like much unless you're trying to fill up You know, a bucket.

Okay. All right, thank you. Thank you.

GreyChair

Who's next?

Denise

That is the only person I had had signed up to speak on this one.

Barbara Wilhite

Barbara Wilhite. So I have uh Mike Razor here, but let me just say a couple things overall. I forgot to update you on the other thing which happened was although the county was unsuccessful in reaching an interlocal agreement with Hernando County on the sewer. They were successful at finally moving forward a uh interlocal agreement between the county and Pasco regarding County Line Road North. Now do I know all the details? No. Staff I'm sure can update you regarding the status of County O County Line Road North. But the fact that they got the two jurisdictions working together and doing an interlocal agreement

seems like a positive sign for me. The ecological planning unit um Yes, it's an ecological planning unit, but there's no significance of that. Unlike a corridor, ecological corridor, the planning unit just says you'd follow the same regulations that you follow normally in the code. That's how that was implemented. The answer regarding drainage is the same one that you guys just had the conversation regarding of how does drainage work in the development review process. Um so but with that we actually did the study for these seventy units and

um Mike Razor can uh tell you about his analysis.

Mike Razor

All right, thank you. Uh good afternoon. Uh Michael Razor with Razor Transportation Consulting, and I have been sworn. Uh our firm prep prepared the uh traffic study, the timing and phasing analysis for this project. Um approved by staff in regard to traffic. There is a good amount of traffic on County Line Road.

GreyChair

Michael, could you just state your address and

Mike Razor

oh sure, absolutely. It's 19046 Bruce B. Downs Boulevard, number 308, Tampa 33647. Thank you. Thanks for the reminder. So as I was saying, there's a good amount of traffic on County Line Road. The way that our traffic study is done, or any traffic study is done, we look at segments, we look at intersections. The segment is bound by intersections to the east and west that are four lane segments, at Mariner to the west, at Anderson Snow to the east. the level of

service that results from that analysis meets the county standards. I do agree that it's difficult to turn out onto County Line Road at a full at for full access if you're not making a right turn. Um this project proposes and has been conditioned with a traffic signal that will alleviate that for this particular project. And with that I'm happy to answer any specific questions. Thank you.

GreyChair

Okay, any questions?

Moody

Just maybe one from staff that you don't know if there is an update on um I n I heard the same thing that Barbara heard that we have reached some sort of common ground on the county line widening project, but if there's any more updates about that that anybody knows.

Very good. Oh well.

Heard it's moving forward, but I haven't heard the details.

GreyChair

Okay. So if there's no further questions then I have a motion.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

I'll make a motion for approval. PC eight.

GreyChair

We have a motion for approval and do we have a second? Second. Have a second. All in favor, signify by saying aye.

Moody

I think I'm not sure.

GreyChair

Pose, like sign. Okay, motion carries.