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Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) - CPA24(05) Rural Area 4 and Urban Expansion Area Maps to Adjust Boundaries – Providing for Transmittal of a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to the Future Land Use Maps 2-13 Rural Areas and Map 2-22 Urban Service Area

Public Hearings at 1:30 p.m.PDE-25-0018District All

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PDE-25-0018 was taken up 5 times between Oct 3, 2024 and Mar 11, 2025, continued 1 time — this is appearance 4.

  1. Oct 3, 2024PlanningPC3No disposition in the minutes
  2. Nov 12, 2024BoardP66Continued
  3. Dec 12, 2024PlanningP13No disposition in the minutes
  4. Jan 14, 2025BoardP64Approvedthis item
  5. Mar 11, 2025BoardP34Adopted

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StarkeyChair

And this is a roll call vote. No, it's not. All in favor? Aye. Okay, so we are on to

P sixty four. Sixty four. Cash, we're ripping through today.

StarkeyChair

We approved the publication of this item in the Tampa Bay Times uh September eighteenth, twenty twenty-four. It was originally scheduled for the November twelfth Port of County Commissioner's meeting where it was continued to today.

Amy Heiler

Good afternoon. Amy Toll with Planning Development and Economic Growth. So the item before you is the transmittal hearing for a county initiated map amendment. This is a comprehensive plan map amendment to map 2-13 and 2-22. Map 2-13 is your rural areas. Map 2-22 is the urban service area. So the purpose of this comprehensive plan amendment is to remedy a

conflict between policies and maps that are embedded within the comprehensive plan right now. So here's a little project overview. So in June 2006, the rural areas or Board of County Commissioners approved Map 2-13, which essentially created the rural. The rural areas comprises of four geographic areas: Rural Area 1, 2, 3, and 4. This amendment is specific to Rural Area 4. Additionally, August 2006. 2010, the

BCC established the urban service area. So the urban service area, urban concentration area is intended to prioritize density and intensity within that area to ensure that there's adequate infrastructure in place to accommodate that level of density and intensity. So essentially, what's happening here is in the rural areas there's a conflict with your urban service area. So what we're proposing is to amend this portion, remove it from the urban or from the rural areas, rural area four, which is

your neighborhood protection area. So we're recommending to remove that from the rural neighborhood protection area and amend the urban service area. Currently, as you can see on this map, it is a hatched area that is symbolizing that it is considered the expansion area, which means the county has envisioned this area at a later date to ensure adequate public facilities are in place to accommodate levels of density and intensity in this area, and then amend the future land use

to incorporate it from the urban expansion area into the urban. Service area. So that's what's occurring here. So the rural area is consistent with policy flu 2.3.2, the establishment of the rural neighborhood protection areas. It is important to highlight that the intent of this policy is to preserve areas that include existing rural neighborhoods that deserve and require special protection from intrusion of urban uses. So this is going to be the area that's on the west side of Old Pas or east side of

Old Pasco Road. Here's just a zoomed in version to show that this is the only portion of the rural area that we are uh proposing an amendment to.

So, this is a general depiction of the rural area four. So, the intent of this visual is to highlight the existing neighborhoods that are in place. The neighborhoods that will be highlighted predate the establishment of the rural areas, which means these neighborhoods were in place prior to 2006. So the overall intent of the rural neighborhood. Protection area is not being diminished or impacted by this change. Additionally, the Cypress

Creek Preserve runs through the rural neighborhood protection area, which further provides that buffer and protection to the existing established neighborhoods. So in the red circle is one of the neighborhoods that has been identified. We also have an existing plated neighborhood as well here. Here and here. So these are essentially your rural neighborhood protection areas. As you can see, the development pattern that is uh currently in place on the west side of Old Pasco Road, which is predominantly

the uh rural neighborhood protection area, is not the same type of development pattern that has already been approved with the higher levels of density, compact development design. On the east side of Old Pasco Road. Additionally, the wetland map kind of further depicts those levels of protection. So as you can see, this area is predominantly category one wetland, which means it's not impacted, so that level of buffer is going to remain

in place. These are the areas that were previously identified.

So this is the map that's embedded within the comprehensive plan that's required to be updated. Um so the amendment is proposing just to remove the subject area as highlighted on this map.

And then we'll go into the urban service area. So that was kind of your briefing on the rural areas and now your urban service area. So the urban service area is actually under an umbrella of your urban concentration area. So your urban concentration area includes the urban service area and the urban expansion area. Again, as noted, this was considered the urban expansion area. The urban expansion area is included to accomplish through A comprehensive plan amendment that basically demonstrates compliance with provisions of state and local law and

ensures that adequate public facilities are in place when we make that change into the urban service area. This area is predominantly highway or I-75, as you can see to the north. It is State Road 52. We also have Overpass that kind of is to the south. So the levels of intensity and intensity that occurs within this area has essentially already been approved and planned for, as well as adequate public facilities have been analyzed with

those projects that came in to ensure that that's in place in this area. So this is what the map would look like with the proposed change. So the all the red area would now be the urban service area instead of the urban expansion area. It is consistent with policy flu 9.1.7.

This is the overall map 2-2 with the proposed change. As you can see, the green area you'll notice over on 301, that is considered the expansion area. For the purposes of this amendment, we are only focusing on the area that is north of Overpass, south of north and south of State Road 52, around the I-75 corridor.

These are additional policies that the proposed amendments are consistent with.

And again, this is the transmital hearing, so we would recommend authorizing transmital to the Department of Commerce, aka Florida State, or Florida Commerce, and other reviewing agencies. Also to put on note, this did uh because it is staff initiated, there was a BIE established with this. Um it is pursuant to section 125.663A in the agenda memo. It does say 126.663A, so that's just uh uh to let you know that that's the actual Amendment.

And if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer. Uh

StarkeyChair

Commissioner Mariano. Thank you Madam Chairman Mariano.

MarianoVice Chair

One of the things that concerns with this area is all to the south part, all the way down to fifty four, all the apartments that are approved that are coming out of the ground right now. Um those who are out in the camp uh those of us who are up in the campaign will get to hear about a lot about infrastructure being in place before development gets done.

Years ago when we were looking at setting up these uh areas all over the county, one of the areas we looked at was Bexley. And Bexley was going to be coming in, there was nothing there, but we're gonna take Bexley all the way up to 52, and then it was says, well let's go all the way above 52 into Shady Hills. Uh you've heard many times from people in the past two years now probably all about Shady Hills, what's going on there. Even heard it this morning in the in the initial conversation. I just got an email about uh the Dell web development that's going in. That's crowding that whole roadway.

So I've got uh all sorts of families there now with no sidewalks in place, or very little sidewalks in place, and it's a very dangerous situation. With two narrow roads with a lot of construction going on, when trucks are pulling in, trucks pulling out, it's causing issues that are that are out there. Never mind the word about impact as far as what what else is gonna happen around it. So I I know in time this is the right thing to do, but right now there's a development we approved at the last month's meeting, last month's meeting here, where we had an I think a a sixty or seventy

foot lot project right above this, uh in in the midst of this area here.

StarkeyChair

You okay?

WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

Someone

StarkeyChair

fell.

WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

I just wanted to uh

MarianoVice Chair

give everybody an adrenaline rush then.

Now where were we commissioning? So with that development we approved, uh with the sixty or seventy foot lots, the single f family home things, we tried to find a way to like get the road built up to that point. And there's another development that's going on down below it on the on the other side of the road that's coming up. But there was no way to make it happen. Now when I look over here at at uh item sixty-two, no, sixty-three we just approved, somehow there's the development agreement to make sure the roadway widening was done with that development coming

in. Um I've talked with Nick Urin, I've talked with both developers coming in to try to get this done ahead of time, and we couldn't. So what's going to happen is that first of all's going to come in. The other one may come in. They're going to come talk to us. And if I don't have a way to build these roads I'm gonna create more congestion uh than ever and and I don't have the infrastructure in place or a way to make it. Where I can build it up. And I know it's a charity of this commission, but it's not done yet and if we allow this, I'm just wondering are we gonna allow these floodgates to open before we're ready for

it, thereby getting more of the wrath of our citizens saying, You should have had the infrastructure in place before you opened up. So I I hesitate to open this up and I understand it's gonna come and probably not far away, but I just wonder if it might be a little bit too soon or is there a way that we can start making these roads to be built instead of being built with a turn lane here and turn lane there get torn out, is there a way we can stop making this happen to get these things done together so it doesn't impact the residents the way it's going right now.

Amy Heiler

Sure. Um so I can speak to the CIP currently. I don't have a visual aid here unfortunately. Um but the data that's being worked on in Pasco Map or what we're calling right now is being updated. Um however there are uh already funded widening of Old Pasco Road, I believe into 2026 for about half of way through the urban service area or the addition of the urban service area. Additionally,

the northern extension of Old Pasco Road is coming in with the Gateway Hub project. And so essentially the infrastructure for at least the transportation network will be in place. Within the next couple years, I'd say. At a minimum with the widenings that are occurring.

MarianoVice Chair

That is completely different from the information I'm getting from our conversation when this stuff's coming together. Sure. So it it's it's it's like I said, we're

Unidentified speakerVoice A

hearing item, Barbara, you'll get your opportunity.

Amy Heiler

I know she represents

MarianoVice Chair

Dell Web, so

Amy Heiler

Yeah, the Dell Web is a is not part of this as well. Sure. So

MarianoVice Chair

anyway, so I I have these concerns about making this change right now when we're not not set to have this road built out the way it should be. I just don't want to go through another uh situation like I'm going through in Shady Hills right now. And I and I haven't got that insurance from staff yet. Maybe get Nick Dier in the line, he can talk about a little bit, but um it does it does concern me.

Barbara Wilhite

I can give you an answer.

Barbara Will Hight, eighty six twenty seven Grand Boulevard, Newport Ritchie. So I would say that this is a The staff is bringing this forward because you have an error. We have inconsistent mapping. We're not gonna move anything forward if we don't correct our errors. But you're asking questions regarding specific projects, which I do represent. The proje and this doesn't have anything to do with that project, although Clearing up your mapping will certainly help projects move forward. Um but to your specific concern I share your concern, Commissioner. And uh we met at

noon today with a project that's on the east side of Old Pasco Road. and I was directed to put together a meeting with your county engineer and your county attorney's office to work on a development agreement to improve that road. So We understand clearly, um, but this is an important step to be able to move forward. It's an important step so you can clear up a mistake in your plan. But um you're heard loud and clear, all of you are regarding infrastructure needs and we take it seriously. So if you please move this forward. Um

We will continue to work on that development agreement. I saw the one on the Pristarchy and sent it to my team. We talked about it at our meeting at noon, so Didn't know you were gonna bring it up, Commissioner, but I'm on top of it and I would hope you'd move this forward. Thank you.

MarianoVice Chair

Yeah, and Barbara, you've been good working as we try to work with you, gentlemen, just like we work with Clark's people as well. So again, I just want to make sure the board's aware of that. We need to make sure we're gonna fix it, otherwise we're just gonna crack.

StarkeyChair

But the money to fix it comes from the impact fee.

Not from commercial or not from office, not from industrial. The the way to get the money to widen roads and put in infrastructure comes from Then Papies. Hey. Well we used to do pipeline projects that worked pretty good.

MarianoVice Chair

The what? Pipeline projects. The developer would help us. They'd build them up front, they'd get reimbursed with the fees down.

StarkeyChair

Yeah, and I think that there's gonna be some discussions with county administration and others on how to feed that pipeline a little better. At least we had a conversation on that yesterday. The

MarianoVice Chair

County

StarkeyChair

Magistrate,

MarianoVice Chair

right now. And again, that's why I'm bringing it up. It's just something that I know we need to focus on. I know staff's doing the right thing, bringing it forward. And I know The Developers want to help us, but somehow we've got to find a way to make it all

StarkeyChair

happen. Эйнам. I do think it's important that we fix this mistake uh and move this forward, but I also like the wisdom in being a little more um proactive on how we get those roads done more quickly. Anyone else have any comments?

Um does anyone from the public wish to speak on this item?

Okay.

WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

Second no one move approval. Second.