An Ordinance By The Pasco County Board Of County Commissioners Amending The Pasco County Land Development Code; Amending Section 1001 Docks And Seawalls; Section 1001.1 Intent And Purpose; Section 1001.4 Visibility; Section 1001.5 Maximum Projection And Location of Docks And Seawalls; Creating Section 1001.6 Boat Lift Canopies; Appendix A Definitions; And Other Sections, As Necessary, For Internal Consistency; Providing For Applicability; Repealer; Providing For Severability; Inclusion Into The Land Development Code, And An Effective Date.

57:32P sixty. All right. P sixty was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times March fifth, twenty twenty five.

57:40Item P60 is PDE 250135. This is an ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners, amending the Pasco County Land Development Code, amending Section 101 Docks and Seawalls, Section 1001.1 intent and purpose, Section 1001.4 visibility, Section 1001.5, maximum projection and location of docks and seawalls. Creating section 101.6 boat lift canopies. Appendix A definitions and other sections as necessary for internal consistency, providing for applicability, repealer, providing for severability,

58:10inclusion into the land development code in an effective date. Revised ex-party documents were submitted to the clerk's office, as well as a late ex-party communication that uh was received was also sent to the clerk's office. Um Mandela Hill. Principal planner with planning services will be presenting this item.

58:33Good afternoon, Commissioner. I'm Anthony Planning, Development, and Economic Growth.

58:41Planning, development, and economic growth was instructed to bring forward this item for consideration. The purpose of this presentation is to provide details on the intent, history, and proposed changes to section 1001 of the Land Development Code. The intent of the ordinance update is to readopt text changes to the Pasco County Land Development Code, which were invalidated by the Circuit Court for Pasco County Civil Division in 2023. It is also to provide standards on boat lift can bees.

59:11I'm gonna provide a brief history of the ordinance. So back in 2012, Section 1001 Docks and Seawalls was created. That was based off of the adoption of the restated land development code and that moved that previous dock ordinance into that land development code. In 2017, there was a board workshop to discuss, among other items, whether or not to continue to prohibit roofs over docks. The direction provided by the board at that time was to move forward with an ordinance allowing roofs and other similar

59:41coverings over docks on privately owned lakes.

59:47Fast forward to 2019, Ordinance 19-12 was adopted by the board, allowing roofs and other similar coverings over docks on privately owned lakes. In 2021, there was a board discussion that resulted in the decision to abandon the previous direction that the board wished to proceed with an amendment to the Land Development Code to allow covers over docks. And then in 2023, that previous invalidation that I mentioned of ordinance 19-12 by the circuit court,

1:00:18and that was through a motion for partial summary judgment. And covers are currently prohibited everywhere, including on privately owned lakes.

1:00:29So now I'm going to walk you through the proposed changes and additions to the section of the code. So first, section 1001.1, intent and purpose. An additional purpose is added to provide standards for reasonable protection of vessels from the elements. Section 1001.3 permit required. This section was included after the 320 LPA for internal consistency. An additional description is added to the type of property for which owner

1:00:59authorization is required prior to obtaining a permit to construct or substantially improve a structure regulated by the section.

1:01:09Section 1001.4 visibility. Additional clarification on the prohibitions of buildings or structures on waterfront property is provided. Section 1001.5, maximum projection and location of docks and seawalls. The name of section 1001.5 is changed from navigability and protection of watercourses. to maximum projection and location of docks and seawalls. The previous prohibition of obstructions in the section is removed. Additional

1:01:39guidance on the maximum projection is added. And the retroactive applicability of the subsection is updated to provide revised guidance.

1:01:49For proposed additions to this section of the code, uh section 1001.6 boat lift canopies is being proposed to be added, and this provides standards for the canopy dimensions and placement.

1:02:04There are also proposed changes and additions to Appendix A definitions of the LDC. Specifically, there is a proposed update to the definition for mean high water line. And two new definitions are being proposed to be added, Boatlift Canopy and Ordinary High Water Line.

1:02:26This is the first public hearing of the proposed Land Development Code amendment. Staff research supports that the proposed amendment is consistent with a comprehensive plan. And staff recommends that the Board of County Commissioners waive the requirements of the evening hearing pursuant to section one hundred-five point six six five B one of Florida statutes.

1:02:49Yes, right.

1:02:50Why?

1:02:51Do you want to have a hearing after five o'clock?

1:02:54Oh. No. That's why you wave. Okay, um so this is a public hearing and we can We have multiple people signed up. Yeah. Does anyone here wanna

1:03:09I'll listen to the public at this point.

1:03:11Okay. Let's hear the public and then we'll talk amongst themselves.

1:03:15All right, so um first we had Jay Pasqua was signed up for P56. Do you want to speak to this item? Yes. Okay, please come to the podium, say it your name and address for the record, and then you have three minutes.

1:03:32I'd like to first thank uh Chairwoman Starkey and all the commissioners for allowing me to speak here today. I would like to also first thank Jack Mariano for everything that he's done for our communities. I live in Leisure Beach and I have relatives who live in Signal Cove. There have been many, many boat covers that have been protecting our vessels over many years. There is nothing that I've seen in any record that would indicate that a cover has made damage or has done anything to any homes in our areas. As

1:04:02you very well may know, the way prices increase, whether it's on cars or anything else, I've personally spent one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars on a boat. And I can uh truly t tell you that it is very important for us, just as you would protect your car or anything else, that we protect our vessels. Reason being is there's a lot of reasons. Number one, the resale value which creates more tax dollars. And not only that, boating is part of our community in our area.

1:04:33I remember when we passed the amendment that allowed it over the lakes and was a little disappointed that we weren't able to get what we needed. We're not asking for boat houses, we're not asking for cuts in our seawalls, but we're asking for a way to protect our vessels in our community. There are many lifts that are there now, there are many covers that are there now. There are objects that are made out of wood that have been there for hundreds of years, if not since I can remember from back in the seventies. So I do ask that you consider Taking

1:05:04the measure into some serious consideration, number one, don't limit colors. I'm hearing that you're only allowing three colors. Red I I d I don't know what they are. I have a printout But I think all the colors should be put into place. I am all for regulation for safety. There's no doubt about it. But if you think of the fact that if you own a $150,000 Bukati or if you own another car, you are either going to put it in a garage, Or you're gonna cover it. So when hardworking

1:05:35people are out there and not all of us are millionaires and we buy a boat, we're looking to just protect our investment. My grandchildren are enjoying the time. A lot of neighbors come over to our homes. We have elderly people that come and not that it has anything to do with it. But if you work hard and you go to retire and you buy a boat And it's something that's all you do. I'm just asking that you take into consideration that you allow us to cover those boats and cover those vessels. to protect it. Now we understand

1:06:05that there's a lot that's been going on with controversy of companies and so forth, and I'm not here to complain. But I'm here to let you know that I now have a boat there that has a two thousand dollar cover on it. that's black and it hangs over the side of the boat and it looks like a big blob. And the reason for that is is because I can't have a canopy over my boat. So I would ask you to please take into consideration, Madam Chairman M And Chairwoman and all you the Board of County Commissioners to take that into consideration

1:06:35and I thank you for your time.

1:06:36Can I can I ask you a question?

1:06:37Yes ma'am.

1:06:38Um how much w uh seawall do you have on your canal here? I'm looking at your

1:06:44picture. Th the seawalls in our area range in widths. My personal seawall is sixty feet wide.

1:06:52That uh so are you on the corner of that cul-de-sac?

1:06:55I I'm actually in the middle of the street. If you're looking for my address, it's [address removed]. I'm directly in the middle.

1:07:00[address removed]?

1:07:01Yes ma'am.

1:07:02Okay, I did the wrong one.

1:07:03Yes, ma'am. So a lot of the properties do vary depending on if you go down to the cul-de-sac, they're a hundred feet long. They are bigger. Some are smaller. And the ones in the corners are very difficult to navigate. And I do understand that there has to be, like I said, there has to be rules and regulations. I do understand that. But putting a cover over my boat Would save A lot of aggravation in rotting interior and and and the fiberglass cracks and it

1:07:34fades out. And the other point that I made before was is that when you sell it you get more money for it. If you get more money for it, you get more tax dollars out of it. So being that we're on the water, I would just ask that you take that into consideration.

1:07:47Thank you.

1:07:49All right, the next individual signed up is Nicholas Mudry, and then behind Mr. Mudry it'll be Wendy Joule.

1:07:59Good afternoon, Commissioners. My name is Nicholas Mudry. I live at [address removed]. I live on a canal. Uh I like to caveat off the previous speaker. Uh Pasco County is one of the few places in Florida that doesn't allow boat covers. If you look at the Florida DEP and if you commissioners I brought plenty of Moved or even five for the second, if you'd like to

1:08:27All favor? Good Shannon. Shannon will come get it.

1:08:30This gives you an idea of a cover over a boat uh a boat. Um it's an investment. Uh just like if you have an expensive car, we'd like to go and have some cover over the elements. If you go to other counties Especially up and down the west from Santa Rosa County to Monroe County. Pasco County is the only county that I know of that has a prohibition. over the covers

1:09:00of her boat lips.

1:09:05And I just questioned how many people who have the wherewithal to live on the water and to pay the higher taxes. Avoid the county. because of this prohibition. I ask that you'd approve

1:09:22Item P sixty for the benefit. Of the residents. Any questions? We

1:09:31don't generally engage.

1:09:35Thank you.

1:09:35Okay, so uh Wendy Jou.

1:09:40And then behind her Craig Rogers will be next.

1:09:44Hello, my name is Wendy Jewell. I live at [address removed] in [address removed]. And I'll be brief because it's actually uh in my view it's actually very simple. Uh the boat canopies provide vital protection from environmental damage to our investments. With rising prices on everything, we should be allowed to do what we can to provide that protection. Just as the other two gentlemen stated, if you had a nice car, you're gonna

1:10:15put it in a garage or you're gonna cover it or you're gonna do something. Um the covers also provide practical benefits such as shade in extreme heat and sun, which is especially valuable for individuals with health concerns and the elderly. A lot of time can be spent prepping for a day on the water and cleaning the boat when you get back. Um and it isn't pleasant spending that time in the blazing sun and it I think it causes safety

1:10:45concerns.

1:10:47They're non-permanent structures. They can be removed during hazardous weather. And I, for one, I do that. And that ensures flexibility and safety. Uh we d we're we're not where I am at, we don't have an HOA. Um and that's one reason why many in my area um settled there. Um these These canopies are attractive. Unlike some of the properties surrounding There. So

1:11:18nor are real threats addressed in our canals and surrounding waters. And I know it really doesn't have anything to do with it, but when you compare what we're talking about today with derelict and abandoned boats, crumbling seawalls and boats that don't follow the navigational laws. Um I would prefer that those issues be addressed than what we're talking about here today. The visibility issue, I can't, I don't see it. I can tell you that my home faces south. The

1:11:49home next to me on the west side has a boat with no canopy. And I can't see any further down the canal than than if there was if there were a canopy. Uh the home on my east um has a canopy and it doesn't doesn't really affect my my view at all. So um that's it. I I ask that you approve uh these for

1:12:19the communities here in outside.

1:12:22I have a question for you because I see you have a a a canopy on your dock. I didn't

1:12:28know that they weren't even allowed.

1:12:30Yeah. Um did you take it off during all the hurricanes? Absolutely did.

1:12:34Madam Chair, we usually generally don't engage in public comment. We take the three minutes and we go.

1:12:40In an ordinance you do. We do? Yeah. It's public comment in the morning.

1:12:45And I I see all the bird droppings on the top of yours and your neighbors. So how do you clean that off?

1:12:51Two ways. I have a I have a power washer, I get a ladder out there and I'll wash it off. Um and if you looked at it today with the rains that we've had, it's all gone. And by the way that They go up on my roof of my home too, so that's not a pleasant look from the back. Do you

1:13:07have a one story or a two story? I can't. I have

1:13:09a two story.

1:13:10Yeah. So so you see the roof of you so you're seeing all the canopy and the bird droppings from your second floor.

1:13:20Um how hard is it how hard was it? Are you able to take that off yourself, that canopy, or do you have to hire someone to take it

1:13:27off? No, no, no. I I get a l little ladder and I get my power washer and I wash it off. Well, how do you take it off? Oh how do you take it off? Oh, I hire someone to take the it off. We have taken up we have Are you looking at it? You know I have two, right? Yes. One one is far much further in and covers a outdoor kitchen. Yeah. The one that covers the boat We can't take off ourselves. It's just a little too dangerous. So we hire somebody a couple days ahead to come and and take it off and then they come back and and put it on after the storm. The

1:13:57one over the kitchen we have taken off ourselves because it's and um at what wind level do you decide to take that off? We watch for the storms when anything comes out, usually three days prior. So how many times have you taken that

1:14:11off? Three? And how how long have you had that?

1:14:19Four? Four years? And you've taken it off three times. Actually twice. We've taken off the kitchen one once and we've taken off the boat cover twice.

1:14:31And d uh do you mind saying how much it costs to have it taken off and put back on?

1:14:38Three fifty to take it off.

1:14:41We have fifty dollars?

1:14:42Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean it's it's the right thing to do. I but it you know, I've never seen I believe the other gentleman stated as well, never seen it them come off and do damage, here's the problem. It's not so much if you had to buy a new one, it's gonna cost you a couple thousand, right? You can leave it on with as many bungees. The bungees are I

1:15:12think twelve to sixteen, something like that, inches all the way around. And That thing isn't going anywhere. But it will rip off S it might put a rip in it, it might We don't dare leave our boat on it because it does have a cage that goes over. Um and we have a T top on our boat. So if the boat were to hit the T top, it could damage the boat. So we take ours off, we take our boat off. Um Those that have bimines

1:15:43probably don't have the same same issues that we do. Um but we take them off mainly because you should, it's the right thing to do. If you didn't, it's not gonna hurt anybody's price, it's not gonna damage anything. You're just gonna have to buy a new cover.

1:16:00Um the house to your west, is that a permanent roof on the dock? What is that?

1:16:05That was grandfathered in before permanent

1:16:12I don't know about that one. Someone needs to go check that one out.

1:16:15Oh don't. Tony will

1:16:16kill me.

1:16:16I'm sorry, but that's you're not allowed to build a permanent roof on

1:16:19it. No, that was done back in

1:16:22We can tell by Google or so.

1:16:24Okay.

1:16:25Yeah. Yeah. Okay,

1:16:27thank you

1:16:27so much. You're welcome.

1:16:28It looks

1:16:28like you have

1:16:28a beautiful

1:16:29house. Thank you.

1:16:30Uh Craig Rogers is next signed up.

1:16:40How you all doing today? Um it just to clarify

1:16:44Rogers, can you just give your name and address for the record quickly?

1:16:46I'm sorry.

1:16:46Yeah, it's Craig

1:16:47Rogers, [address removed] in [address removed].

1:16:51Okay, thank you.

1:16:52Um just to clarify, uh we're discussing

1:16:57New boat covers to be done and existing boat covers also?

1:17:06Existing boat covers have not been legal under current ordinance.

1:17:10Okay. I guess my big question is I've had mine for and I'm just gonna guess about seven years Um Did these companies have occupational license or contracting licenses in Pasco County?

1:17:25I am unaware. You're not aware or you don't know you don't know or

1:17:30They're not legal. If they're not legal, they wouldn't have been permitted. So we wouldn't know. Yeah, they don't have a permit. That's an unpermitted structure that you have there.

1:17:37Okay, so they were working without any kind of license in Pasco County. Okay.

1:17:40Well we

1:17:40don't

1:17:41I don't know what kind of license

1:17:42is.

1:17:43They may have a a a business tax receipt from the from the tax collector's office. That's not that's not licensure. Okay.

1:17:53four eighty nine license for some other reason, but we don't But they're not pulling building permits for these structures. But

1:18:01that's but they

1:18:04Yeah.

1:18:05I mean there should be

1:18:06Should be. It's

1:18:08all unpermitted.

1:18:09Right.

1:18:09We'll have to deal with that one.

1:18:11Okay. All right. No problem. Um Well when code enforcement comes around and they come around in our neighborhood quite often uh uh I know they have to see these structures going up.

1:18:22Are you saying they're coming in your neighborhood by boat?

1:18:24Absolutely. A hundred and ten percent.

1:18:28I live on the water I've ne I've never seen. One time.

1:18:31Okay. Um you can definitely see them from the street. I can see my neighbors from the other canal from them. In my front driveway. What I'm saying is I guess If these weren't allowed for years and we have got these and we're you know, supposed to be getting them. Why didn't someone tell us prior to this? Why

1:18:50didn't you say you were who said you were supposed to be getting them?

1:18:53No when we got these. When I got mine seven years ago, how come someone didn't say you can't have these?

1:18:59That's a good question. You should have asked the guy who was installing it if it was legal or not. Okay.

1:19:07Okay. All right. So it's totally on the actual residents. The county's taking no respon so the county is saying they've never seen these boat lift covers. They just appeared one day. I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just saying that, you know, Um

1:19:22for us. So

1:19:23I guess what I'm asking you is You were aware of these boat covers being in installed, correct?

1:19:30I I had no knowledge you had one installed in your backyard.

1:19:33Did you have any knowledge that anyone in Pasco County had a buttlift

1:19:36cupboard installed?

1:19:38This is this is a

1:19:39a a hearing on this ordinance.

1:19:42Okay.

1:19:43Grilling the County Commission doesn't get you anywhere.

1:19:46Okay. I don't mean to be drilling the county commission. Point of order, Madam Chair?

1:19:49So we generally do, and I've never seen it, you can say we do with different nuances, but when we have citizens coming up to speak, they get three minutes to talk, they go through it, they make their comments, and then we talk about what they said later on. That's how we've been doing it. Uh this this it back and forth is up to brand new.

1:20:06Just go um go ahead finish your

1:20:07question. I'm sorry, I I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything like that. It's just that, you know, all of a sudden this came up. We've had 'em for years.

1:20:13I wanna I won't answer any more questions.

1:20:14You

1:20:15know,

1:20:15we we've we haven't had an issue with them or anything. I just You know, I just don't understand how this just crept up on us all of a sudden, is the way it kinda seems. To me.

1:20:26Okay.

1:20:28So so we are moving forward to get these permitted and everything. What does this mean that everyone that has one has to take them down and start over from scratch? Why has this time been reset?

1:20:42Okay.

1:20:43Do you wanna answer? I I

1:20:44I

1:20:44feel like I think we need to.

1:20:45So are we saying we're gonna take these down and then start over from scratch? Well, you

1:20:53This is your time to speak. We're not answering this is not a this is not a session for you to get your questions answered.

1:21:00Okay. All right, I understand. Thank you. Appreciate your time. Sorry.

1:21:05Okay, so that is the last person signed up in the audience, although I believe a Mr. Brent Lee is online. Mr. Lee

1:21:14and Barb Barbara's here to speak as well. Do you want to wait for him? Sure, yeah. Okay. Mr.

1:21:19Mr. Lee? Are you there?

1:21:22I'm here.

1:21:23Uh okay, so give your name and address for the record and then you have your three minutes.

1:21:29Okay. My name is Brent Lee. My wife and I own [address removed] in [address removed]. And uh thanks for uh giving us the opportunity to address these issues. Uh in keeping with what's just been decided that it's not a question and answer session, I'll just go ahead and say what I'm saying. They uh The way I see this and many other people Uh this really only concerns the boating community

1:21:59and those that are property owners on the water. water. Um so I I'm I'm wondering why it's gotta be a concern for everyone. Um There's the three items I want to discuss is there I understand that there are two lifts per property allowed if you have sufficient seawall to to hold them. I believe that you're limiting it to one canopy, so I feel like there should be

1:22:29the same number of canopies permitted that are uh possible with the lift.

1:22:38The canopies must be three feet inside of setbacks. Uh that uh is gonna pose a problem to try to cover the entire boat. Uh, specifically the bow is what I'm thinking of. And the third item is the three colors allowed, blue, green, and beige, which is what I understand. Um I understand the aesthetic appeal of earth colours. However, I'm thinking that dark colors

1:23:08attract heat. What trying to to eliminate is direct sun and heat on our investments. Uh white, silver, light gray, these are colors that are known to reflect the heat of the sun and affect the purpose of having a boat canopy. Uh so I and I I'm just wondering, you know, why the The colour. Uh, you know, I can't see

1:23:38anyone who can afford to live on the water and afford to have a boat and a boat lift and a cover, I'm not sure that they're gonna have uh tricolored purple uh tops. I'm thinking they're gonna kinda maintain the um value of their property by use choosing a color that worked. But I think white, silver, light gray should be three additional colors at least that should be handy. Um the uh since only the voting community is really concerned with

1:24:09this and we are the ones that that Want to see Uh our community uh aesthetics maintained Uh I'm not sure uh how I would word this with you. I don't know if if uh I would like to see a motion made for a referendum on these canopy um ordinances restricted to only people who actually have

1:24:39property on the water, the canals or what have you. Uh um So I'm not um You know, other than that, uh I don't see, you know, I mean I think there should be permitted, I think it should be controlled, uh, for everyone's benefit. most particularly those that are actually on the water. How much time do I have left?

1:25:01I think you I think he the red light. I don't know why it wasn't cut off. The red Yeah, you're done. Thank you so much.

1:25:08Thank you.

1:25:10All right. And then we had one other individual, but did Mr Pratt show up or is he still

1:25:17He is not online. Okay. So we do not have anyone else signed up if you want to take a look at the right-of-way. Comments from the public.

1:25:26Good afternoon, Commissioner. Barbara Wilhite, [address removed]. That is my home. It's been my home for several years. My home was built in 1984. I have not owned it since 1984. Um so obviously I'm one of these affected people because I live on the water. I did want to say in the staff's presentation that there was something kind of missing what I want to point out to you, which is Ordinance um 1912 was rejected by the court or a procedural matter, not a substantive matter. So when

1:25:56I talked to David Goldstein, just to clear up, do you need do you have to do this because of the litigation? Do you have to change what you did in 2019 or what the board did in 2019 because of litigation? The answer was no. If you want to readopt 2019, you could readopt uh readopt what you did in 2019 or what the board did in 2019.

1:26:13Is that the one that allowed um covers on lakes?

1:26:16That's correct. Yeah. So I just want to make sure that that That's that you're not driven by you have to do something or you have to make a change. The the third, excuse me, the second speaker recognized and acknowledged that this has been a prohibition. These have always been pro prohibited in in uh this county. And I think that's a good thing, as opposed to being a a negative thing. This is about views and and I stand here not really to say I Your other speakers all said aye.

1:26:47It was about aye. I spent twenty five hundred twenty-five thousand dollar bot on my boat. I wasn't able to achieve what I needed in twenty nineteen. I work hard to buy a boat. My house has been there since 1984. Everybody's had boats in our community. We have eighteen hundred homes. Everybody's had boats. It's nothing new to work hard to buy a boat. You cover your boat. You buy a boat cover, you cover it. You hire a company to wash your boat weekly and cover it for you if you can't.

1:27:17Nothing is changed. Please don't change.

1:27:24The quite a few of your speakers, and I I read all the commentary that you received by email as well, already have these boat canopies. So they're coming here because they've already violated your ordinance and they're coming here asking you to change it. But but what I'm asking you is to not change and not be half of I It's on behalf of our Our community, our county has never allowed these covers. They change views. Now your speaker can say and a c your speaker

1:27:54number four, I don't want to call out people, your sequel number three number three says I don't see the visibility issue because I don't have one. I can't see. I don't have a view anyhow. Well, there's a whole bunch of people that do have views, like myself. And it'll change the view. All the way down my canal, the way I the way my canal sits is it's in it sits east-west. So it is a sunset view canal. So all the way down that canal there's boats after boats after boats after boats. And if you change the ordinance

1:28:25For the eyes. People that want it for their own personal benefit. You're changing that view all the way down that canal. For something that's been that way for my home since 1984, your changing of you. I'm asking you, as in 2019, the board weighed this out and said, we don't need to do that. People can cover their boats. We recognize that lakes were different, the viewshed for lakes were different, larger lots, the setbacks are very different from then the canals. And you and that distinction

1:28:55was made. And that was not overturned, that distinction. Your county attorney said it was appropriate distinction. So I want to honor your time. Sorry. So I saw I see my time up, but thank you for giving me the time to speak on my personal behalf. Thank you. Thank you, Barbara.

1:29:09Um

1:29:11So I I wanna speak to this too. Um I I am a boat owner. And I I live on the water. And um we've lived there, we've had that house I think about ten years. Uh And I've grown up around boats. And I'd never had a boat cover. Over a boat. My boat was made to be out boats are made to be outside. I I have a wonderful view. I'm on the open

1:29:42canal. I would Just It would really affect m the value of my M my view shed. If my view is not a little bit more than a little bit of Of the island. And the lighthouse and Eagle Point Park and all that was taken away because of boat covers to my right and to my left. It would seriously affect my view. And and my neighbors that that view goes away. Um it's It when my when my the

1:30:12boat next to me when he Even when he puts the covers on just his windows around his boat, it it takes away um part of Bailey's bluff. So I I ha w what would happen on the boat cover would be huge. Um I it doesn't affect people on large lots. And it maybe it doesn't affect people who don't care about their views down their canals. Maybe they're not scenic, but I know our community It's a beautiful community

1:30:42and we love our water views. There's a reason why The side fences for for fifteen feet back can only be four feet high and they have to be see through. Because everyone's view has Those long views have great value and the county ordinances say you cannot block it. And so the f the Fences are four feet high and they cannot be solid. Um And I I heard that gentleman say that the other counties don't

1:31:13have Uh we're the only county that has this. That is not true. My family lives on the water in in Miami, no boat covers allowed. For Howard, there's no boat covers. It's all over the place there's no boat covers. And I wanna remind you what happened in Charlotte County. During Hurricane Ian.

1:31:34That um boat cover Became a um the the metal of it Became a missile. and it went into a neighbor's boat Went through the hole and sank it. And you know what? Uh the the person who had that boat cover didn't have to pay for the guy who lost his boat because they considered that an act of God. Just like in in Gulf Harbors. during a f uh two years ago when we had wasn't even a hurricane, just these

1:32:05winds come through, took off someone's um back porch, the roof over their back porch, went on a ne one of my neighbor's house. Did all kinds of damage to his roof. They had to pay for it themselves. the the other guy was not responsible uh to have to pay for to fix all actually that that hurt a bunch of people's houses. So I don't see any reason.

1:32:31since the beginning of time. I'm I am all for boat covers on lakes. I don't think it takes their view away. Um But um I I don't see any reason why we should be be doing this to our communities.

1:32:45Madam Chairman, before you get into general discussion, can I get you to call for any other public comment and then close public comment?

1:32:52Is there any other public comment? Sorry, I didn't see anyone else wanna come up. Okay, here comes somebody.

1:33:03Do you have anyone else online? No.

1:33:06I live next to Wendy Toole who got up and spoke on she's like, Oh I'm sorry. Florence Carter, [address removed].

1:33:15Okay, and you can pull the microphone down to you so you don't have to say any of your tippy toes. All right.

1:33:22The end of it bends. Yeah.

1:33:25Can you hear me? There you go. Okay.

1:33:28You may proceed.

1:33:29She has a boat cover. I have a boat cover. And her cover doesn't block anything. It's not like it's like this. It's like more straight across. So there's there's no view. That's blocking.

1:33:46Yeah. Blocks way more than the boat cover.

1:33:52That's all I wanted to say and I'm not sure. I just hope you guys make the right decision when the time comes. Jack?

1:34:03As soon as you're done, I'm gonna make a motion.

1:34:07And you had somebody in the back row raising their hand. If

1:34:10you want to speak to

1:34:10this,

1:34:11is there anyone else who wants to speak to this one? They come to the podium. Yeah, come on upstairs.

1:34:17I had uh you know, I had people from Gulf Harbors coming, but I think they were confused by this continuance. Because their Gulf Harbor's They don't want this, so

1:34:29Oh excuse me. Hi, my name is Darrell Whitlock. I live

1:34:32You can pull it up. There you go.

1:34:35We

1:34:35accommodate all people. We don't

1:34:36have to do it.

1:34:36My name is Daryl Whitlock. Uh actually I live in Sun Branch Civic Association. Actually the president.

1:34:42And what's

1:34:42your

1:34:42address?

1:34:43Uh I live on Veronica [address removed]. Right. And actually I was in front of you the board probably I'd say about was it two, three years ago, I think was Jack. Now we we talked about this issue. And it was uh really hot back then and it still is. And it seems like it it actually died down. Since that happened, I've my neighborhood have probably talked to hundreds of people, hundreds of people in Hudson Beach. And I found a couple of people that say no. But a couple

1:35:13of people say no they don't want them. There's like fifteen to twenty to that one that want them. And I think really we should have the right to protect our boat and our our investments. Uh my boat cover, I had it on through the last two hurricanes. And it did not tear her. Jack came to my house and seen it. If they're strapped down right, I've went through I've taken mine off before during the hurricanes. Bullet em up. Put 'em back on and I had people I seen that they had left theirs

1:35:43on and there was no issues with them. Didn't stretch out. Later on they had come in, they put new bungees back on them. If they're maintained right. Our storms that we get over here in Hudson don't really exceed over a hundred mile an hour. Inland, I lived in Orlando for thirty two years. I've seen Charlie go through over one hundred and twenty mile an hour. Take roofs off. I've never seen a storm over here like that. When Milton came in, we didn't get hardly nothing. By me, Enland, it destroyed it. It tore down trees,

1:36:14blocked roadways. Inland they got more wind, more hurricane uh hurricane damage. Tornadoes drop, we do not have the tornadoes that drop on the on the coastal areas. We should have the right to protect what we've got there. There's people my neighbor just spent three hundred thousand dollars on a boat. That's more than some people are paying for houses right now. I mean, I think it's a good thing

1:36:39A carport over it, no problem. And protect it out there in front. What is the difference in a back? They're saying that it's blocking views. My my canopy is probably I would say probably about ten foot off the ground. So you can look through it to see it. Now I got seventy foot of property. Technically I got but a sixty foot boat out there. Now don't don't you think that sixty foot boat would block your view more than my canopy would? That's what it comes down to. We've got investments that all

1:37:09we want to do is protect what we've got. And it is a boating community. I'm sorry, it's what it is. But I guess that's about it. I think my time's about okay about thirty two seconds. But I do want to thank the commissioners for what you're doing. You are doing uh very good, very well for us in general. And I want to thank you for that. But thank you very much for

1:37:32your time on this. Okay, is there anyone else uh that wants to speak in public comment?

1:37:40Nope. No. Sorry.

1:37:43Okay. All right, we've closed public comment.

1:37:45All right, Madam Chair?

1:37:46Yeah.

1:37:47So this issue here when this was going through I I cautioned as far as like trying to separate the lakes to the canals. Um I knew my area had voiced the concerns from from years before how they wanted to protect their boats. Um The gentleman who just spoke, Daryl Whitlock Right beside him was a house that got destroyed. Walls came down, windows are out. the whole house destroyed, his boat covers right in place. A few others across the way, all in place. So if built properly they they can with storm the stor withstand

1:38:17the storms. I I firmly believe the boats as as if you've heard in testimony that They block the view more than the cover does anyway. And that's why we're doing the silver cover. We're not talking talking big canopies like it was down in Gulf Harbors. Uh and I think Gulf Harbors has a deed restriction in place that would keep you from being able to do it. Well that's not what I've heard, but anyway. Um as far as this, I'm gonna move that we move this thing forward. Uh I'm okay if we add the colors of white, silver, and light gray as well.

1:38:48We're

1:38:48not

1:38:49voting on it. Just to move it forward. But I mean I w I wanna make that mention so we can look at it next week.

1:38:55So yeah, so if we can get consensus on changing the color, that's really all or you can make a motion to amend the ordinance to change to add those colors if you wish. But So moved.

1:39:12Really?

1:39:13Okay. So we're

1:39:14second.

1:39:15Second. We we're moving it forward. We're not moving on the colour. This is just this is just

1:39:20changing the colors in the in the

1:39:23or I thought we're adding. We're adding those. Adding. Adding those results. Adding. I'll second that.

1:39:29Word commercial oblique.

1:39:31Bathroom.

1:39:32Okay. Um all right, all in favor? Aye. Okay.

1:39:41That's

1:39:41it. There is still another motion that needs to be made um in terms of recommending that the board waive the requirements for the evening hearing. So moved. This

1:39:51is recommending the waiving the

1:39:52evening. The motion would be that the Board of County Commissioners waive the requirements for section 125.665 B1, Florida statutes, that at least one public hearing be held after 5 PM on a weekday and in and instead provide both required public hearings be held at 1.30 or sh as soon thereafter as same may be heard. Some moving.

1:40:16I'll take a second.

1:40:18Second.

1:40:19All in favor? Aye. Thank you.

1:40:23And your next public hearing on this matter will be

1:40:28August something.

1:40:34Yeah.

1:40:38August nineteenth is what I have.

1:40:41Aug August nineteenth.

1:40:42August nineteenth.

1:40:43Thank

1:40:43you.

1:40:45Hit 'em long, hit 'em straight, all that kind of stuff.

1:40:51All right,