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(To Be Heard After P68) Joint Funding Agreement between Pasco County, Mu Landco Liquidating Company, LLC, SF Landco Liquidating Company, LLC, EPG Hillcrest Holdings, LLC, EPG Palmetto Ridge Holding, LLC, Lennar Homes, LLC, Palmetto Ridge Cattle Co, LLC, and Jen Holdco 24, LLC – State Road 52/Old Pasco Road Utilities Corridor – $40,722,000.00

Public Infrastructure - UtilitiesUTD-26-0085District 1, 2

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Adolpha Gonzalez

R fifty six.

StarkeyChair

Yeah, the R. Okay.

Adolpha Gonzalez

Mm-hmm.

StarkeyChair

Are you doing that one too?

Adolpha Gonzalez

Yes.

StarkeyChair

Okay.

Adolpha Gonzalez

Adolfo Gonzalez, Utilities Engineering and Contract Management Director. Hard 56 is phile number UTD 26-0085. Joint funding agreement between Pasco County, Mew Landco Liquidating Company, LLC. SF Landco Liquidating Company LLC. E PG Hillcrest Holdings L C EPG Pelmetal Ridge Holding L L C Lenar Holmes, L L C Pelmetto Ridge Cattle Company, LLC, and Jen Holt Coal 24, LLC. State

Road 52, Old Pasco Road Utilities Corridor, $40,722,000. This uh commissioner. Is the follow-up to the resolution. Uh I had mentioned uh some of the reasons or the criteria we use to extend water and sewer mains. Uh typically when they're required to be extended by a county, it's because we already have commitments out there in terms of what we have to provide uh additional water sewer service. In addition to that, we sometimes require developers to extend water and sewer mains if it's within the

comprehensive plan thresholds for them to

When are extensions optional for developers? When they exceed, when their property exceeds the threshold for extending water and sewer facilities to their site, at that point can then voluntarily decide to uh fund the improvements completely or or find some other means of providing water and sewer for their properties? Our current policy for quite some time has been developers pay for extensions, county pays for water and wastewater plant expansions. That's what we typically do. Based on

the Complant thresholds. Uh we already have uh a master plan created for that Stay Road 52 utility corridor that includes the right-size water and sewer facilities to serve that corridor from 52 to Old Pasco Road, essentially I-75, uh, over the course of several phases. The plan is to build what is needed for the first three phases of expected ERU or debt. development activity in that area uh with that DOT construction

project. Uh this graphic shows the limits of the water facilities needed for that Sable fifty two quarter, essentially all the way from US 41 up air and cutoff. Fifty two and down Old Pasco Road.

StarkeyChair

Can I can I ask you a question on this real quick? Um So this is coming what's going down Old Pasco that's not existing. Am I understanding that right?

Adolpha Gonzalez

Correct. None of that along the right.

On the right-

there are some water mains on Old Pasco, but the there is an additional parallel water main that needs to be constructed to provide enough fire flow and Okay, so

StarkeyChair

here's my question. This is what I'll write me. Maybe it's a funding thing, but I mean that road's under construction. Are you gonna tear it up? Whatever's being done now, we're gonna go back in and tear it up to put this in.

Adolpha Gonzalez

Some of that is already under construction as part of the old Pasco Road Widening Project.

StarkeyChair

Right. So I

Unidentified speakerVoice A

have

StarkeyChair

a this isn't permanent or designed or anything yet, right? So you now you're gonna go back in and tear it up.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I'm I'm

StarkeyChair

pretty

Unidentified speakerVoice A

sure Adolph that there were old plans on the books that accounted for the widening of old Casco Road and as well as placement of utilities. I think that they call that pretty many year old many, many years ago. Is that uh

StarkeyChair

Mike, I can't I don't think anyone can hear you.

Mike Carballa

Oh I'm sorry. I I I I think it's accounted for buttons.

WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

It would be on the west side of the road, right?

Mike Carballa

Yeah, there were already plans. I mean when I first started working for the county, there were there were plans that were already on the books. I mean the

StarkeyChair

So the plans are done already? And

Adolpha Gonzalez

construction is underway for that second phase.

StarkeyChair

Okay, but you're putting this in now? Yes. Un while we're doing the construction? Thank goodness.

Adolpha Gonzalez

Because that was needed for one of the first phases of development in there that northwest quadrant of I-75 and 52.

StarkeyChair

Okay, just so many times we don't put it in because Because the developers aren't paying for it. So then we we have to come back. And tear up something we just did to put the stuff right.

Joel

I see. Uh Commissioner I just asked the engineer, one of those lines already is in an old Pasco Road. They the developers literally have been paying and doing this and we've been negotiating the agreement. The second line, the plans are approved and they are doing directional drilling where required. They're intentionally not impacting the roadway work. So they their plans contemplated that work and they're working around it.

StarkeyChair

Yeah, that's the right way to do it.

WeightmanSecond Vice Chair

This plan today allows us to really work in concert with DOT and get get this project into the in the ground and when they start their road project, it's not gonna prolong Bob's barricades, which is good for Bob's barricades, uh up and down. east and west on fifty two with they built the road, now dig it up, put pipe in, then repave the road again. Like we should be able to actually have a fluid help

DOT have a fluid project here.

Adolpha Gonzalez

Yes, sir. That is the plan. To do it concurrent with the road construction.

Uh this is a graphic of the planned sewer improvements along the 52 and old Pasco corridor. Uh and again the the intent is to do it with the road construction to minimize any disturbance to the public.

I mentioned the comprehensive plan distance thresholds when developers are required to extend mains. So for large master plan communities, over 100 ERUs, the distance threshold is a mile for sewer and up to a mile and a half for water. But in this case, we have over 13 miles of water main network of transmission mains that need to be built. And over nine miles of sewer that needs to be built to provide adequate flow and pressure to that corridor. Because of that, we decided

to leverage that public-private partnership with the property owners group to fund the $62 million of construction, of which we are hard funding $15 million. The other 20 Three million dollars that we're funding up front, we intend to get reimbursed via that utility surcharge connection that you just approved.

And that is to serve the Central Pasco Employment Village as well as the service area in blue with the possibility of extending that area if there's capacity available to the areas in pink.

With that we recommend approval of the joint funding agreement.

MarianoVice Chair

And your issue? I want to have the language stated by a county attorney to add on to it that we need.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

You're the one who's negotiating with them.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Well Clark said he was gonna talk and then pitch it to me, so I was gonna Anyway Oh yeah, I was typing while we were talking. So um I I'm not exactly sure where to put it in the agreement on the fly here, but um I'm thinking something to the effect will be added to the agreement that says notwithstanding any of the county funding provisions, the county retains the right to apply for and utilize grant funding sources for the county loan amount, which is a defined term in here related to phases one through

four.

StarkeyChair

Okay. Um is there

Unidentified speakerVoice B

anyone here which it would be one of those one of the letters um you know you get

Joel

Yeah, but we can't make one of that.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

Yes, I'm specifically looking at Four. One second.

uh Part B where it talks about phase one through three infrastructure costs allocation. Um there's a sub-paragraph E that I think is where we're gonna put it.

StarkeyChair

Mm-hmm. Okay, is there anyone here in the public that wishes to address this? And

Amanda Hill

tiny no end of compliments.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Sorry? It's not a public hearing item, but you can hear from the you can hear from the folks that'll be signing the

Unidentified speakerVoice D

agreement. Okay, Commissioner, uh I just want to take a few minutes. I you know, I've sat here for so many years and sometimes I can't stand it when people go on and pontificate when we get to the end of a big project like this. But I can't let today go by without thanking your staff and our team. And I've there's some I've been working on this for two and a half years, and this week I had to go back and look at how much time time I had and I have over three hundred hours working on this in the last two and a half years.

Uh what happened here is our clients bought a bunch of property and you all approved the zoning for it and we all thought we were going hunky dory down the road, then we found out that the pipes that were out in front of some of these big projects just literally did not have any capacity. And that started a very long-winded discussion with Pasco County Utilities about how we might fix it. And basically we're fixing a regional issue for the county working together in a partnership. But it

we could not have done this without Jordan's help. Brandford's help. This guy, Adolfo, over here, has spent a ton of time and effort with us. David has worked on it. Mike's been in some of the meetings. David Allen and David Ingle have been in meetings, but Joel, Ed Rogers on our end, and Jordan Walker, our other uh PE of Record, who's laid out a lot of the phase work that's going to occur here, have all been working on this nonstop for two years now. What

ended up happening in this process by working together and there were points we didn't think this could happen is we We'll make sure that the county's whole on this project at the end of the day. So the county will make a bunch of money uh selling the utility services over time to the developments in this corridor. We will have paid the county back and we have built this gigantic infrastructure that will serve this whole corridor for years to come. And we will make sure that it's done.

ahead of the DOT project. We need

StarkeyChair

to show you uh Hillsborough County how to do it.

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Yeah, yeah. So

StarkeyChair

I just

Plant in Southern Hillsborough County

Unidentified speakerVoice D

Administrator. Again, to Joel and to our whole team and our clients for letting us do this. This was a difficult project, but it's ended up being a great project for everybody involved. So I thank you all and your staff for for working with us on it. Thank you.

StarkeyChair

And I I do have one question. Not it's not for Clark, but Um, you know, I listened to all the Planning Commission meetings and it used to be that they were saying is the infrastructure in place for this. And I haven't heard that in a long time, but as we're checking through the boxes You know, is someone checking to see if we Neat. That the that We're up to date on a water sewer. Seems to me that this happened on V O P H as well. We kinda got caught without a utility

plan, is that right?

Mike Carballa

Yeah, b the utilities are undergoing regular master planning. I know I think uh hopefully we've got a couple That they've either gone through or sometimes they run together. So the team has done a phenomenal job.

Definitely um you know we only like to touch things once. Sometimes in government we'll touch things two or three or four or five times in sequence. And uh I think it's I think it's a boon to the public as well and just has a great uh public benefit to everything that we're doing here today. So

StarkeyChair

is there another area in the county where you think we'll be looking at next? Hmm.

Adolpha Gonzalez

Uh along the County Line Road corridor at the very north end of the county.

StarkeyChair

All right. Um Do we

MarianoVice Chair

have a

StarkeyChair

motion? We have a motion.

MarianoVice Chair

Make a I'll make a motion and uh let me just quickly say Adolfo Uh Joel, Clark, everybody, you guys did phenomenal work in this thing all the way through. Um I just wanted to make sure we protected ourselves with that one clause. Um and glad to hear that old Pasco Road is being has been being done because I wasn't sure of that. But um great great news there. So I'll make a motion to approve with the conditions stated by staff that we're gonna be protected to go get grants that won't impede uh the funding of this agreement. I'll second.

StarkeyChair

And again, uh thank you to everyone who worked on this. It's great when we can all work together like this and achieve something so so important for the community. With that, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay, great job everybody. Thank you so much.

And um make sure that we're taking care of the coat and grass over there. Oh man, C P E B or whatever it's called. And when are we gonna get a new name? I I I can't I can't take that name. Um full of coconut. Okay. Well now what are you up here for?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

TAFR resolution for

StarkeyChair

publication of uh this item in the Tampa Times October twelfth, twenty twenty five.

StarkeyChair

Oh, this is kind of