Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Regular) - CPAS25(02) Caliente Resorts – Providing for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to the Future Land Use Map (2-15 and Sheet 20) Changing from COM (Commercial) to RES-24 (Residential-24 du/ga) on Approximately 4.93 Acres of Real Property Located on Gran Via Boulevard approximately .3 Miles East of the Intersection of Caliente Boulevard and Land O’ Lakes Boulevard.

44:23Uh next we have uh item P5 on the agenda, which you'll be sitting as a local planning agency for this item. And this item has a companion MPU D, which is P9. P5 is PDE 26006, a comprehensive plan amendment in the name of CPAS 2502, Caliente Resorts. Providing for a comprehensive plan amendment to the future land use map 2-15 and sheet 20, changing from COM commercial to res 24, residential 24 dwelling units per gross acre. On approximately four point nine three acres of real property located

44:54on Gran Via Boulevard, approximately point three miles east of the intersection of Caliente Boulevard and Land O' Lakes Boulevard, and this is coming with the request that the local planning agency find the proposed amendment consistent with the comprehensive plan and recommend approval to the Board of County Commissioners. And there is a presentation by staff.

45:12All right. Thank you.

45:23Doreen Roy, Planning Development and Economic Growth.

45:27Okay, thank you, Doreen.

45:28Uh item P five, Caliente Resorts.

45:34Turn before you start, um Mr. Chair, there's a companion item rezoning. Did you want to open up the public hearing for both items at the same time? Yeah. Okay. All right.

45:47Very good. Uh PDE twenty six zero zero zero six, C P A S twenty five zero two, Caliente Resorts. Uh the proposal, the petitioner is requesting a comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use designation from comm to commercial. Res uh uh from comm commercial to res twenty four. Twenty four dwelling units. For Grossacre.

46:18on four point nine three acres being a portion of parcel Zero one two six. One eight zero zero four zero. Zero zero zero zero zero zero zero M zero

46:36Flu ch the flu change from COM to Res twenty four, the purpose to allow for ninety six condominium units. The location of the proposed project is on the northwest side of Gran Via Boulevard, approximately one thousand seven hundred fifty feet from the intersection of Land O' Lakes Boulevard and Caliente Boulevard. There is an accompanying M P U D

47:07two Zero Two Four Zero zero zero six two to substantially modify the existing caliente resorts MPUD. which will be processed concurrently with this proposed amendment.

47:25The property is located in the central market area and outside the urban concentration area.

47:35This is a context map.

47:47Transportation network map.

47:55existing future land use.

48:05Proposed land use?

48:14The proposed amendment is consistent with the following comprehensive policies. Policy flu 1.43. Policy H S G One One Three. Policy flu 187. Policy flu 1101, policy flu eight one three.

48:38The recommendation is finding the proposed amendment consistent with the comprehensive plan and recommend approval to the Board of County Commissioners. I'm here if there are any questions.

48:51Okay, any questions? Just one quick one, Doreen.

48:57I don't know anything about this. A citizen texted me and asked... About a road that was supposed to go through here to Aaron cut off. And sp was supposed to be split between Caliente and Wilderness Lakes and they claimed that the C D D fees were up to do this road and never finished it. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this?

49:21I think I'll defer that information to my colleague in the M P U D.

49:40The word.

49:41Do do you know what your road that is?

49:46Yes, a road that was supposed to go through Two air in cutoff.

49:52road extension.

49:56I I I mean I could tell you that currently Caliente Boulevard has an unfinished middle segment that ends just north well not just north but a bit a bit ways further north from the caliente site. that we're talking about and then it it stops. The right-of-way is all there, but the road ends and it's just grass for I don't know how long how long that distance is and then it picks up again further north. So maybe that's what they're talking about. Yeah. But I

50:26don't think that would have been a C D D priority or um requirement to build because that's on the Vision Road Network. Okay. And is

50:36Is there any relationship between this project and that?

50:40The on the ninety six condos, no. Right. Yeah.

50:49Okay. So who's here to speak on this one?

50:54There are individuals signed up to speak on this item, Mr. Chair, both in person and online. Uh item P nine is the companion if you would like to hear that first. Yeah. Uh P9 is the companion MPUD to P five. It's PDE twenty six seven eight five seven, a zoning amendment in the name of Caliente Resorts MPUD and LOL Properties Inc. For a rezoning request for master plan units development to master plan unit development district to allow for the development of 96 condominium units and associated infrastructure on

51:25approximately 4.93 acres located on the western side of Caliente Boulevard, approximately 0.31 miles northeast of the intersection of Caliente Boulevard and Land O' Lakes Boulevard. This is coming with the recommendation of approval to the Board of County Commissioners of the proposed substantial modification to the Yeah.

51:47Good afternoon Planning Commission. This is Robert Irving with Planning Development and Economic Growth. So yes, the item before you is PDE twenty six seven eight five seven, the Caliente Resorts and PUD, substantial modification. Um here's the location map showing this in the south central part of Pasco County. And the project overview that the proposal is a zoning amendment from MPUD Master Plan U Development to MPUD Master Plan U Development is a substantial modification. to allow for the development of ninety-six

52:17condominium units on approximately four point nine three acres. And it's located on the western side of Caliente Boulevard, approximately 0.31 miles northeast of the intersection of Caliente Boulevard and Land O' Lakes Boulevard. So here's the location map showing the subject site.

52:37And here's the zoning map. This MPUD was last approved in 2010 to allow for a maximum development of 738 dwelling units. Here's the future land use map demonstrating the Calm commercial as previously presented. Now here's the site location and overall context. So that red line is the overall boundary of the Caliente. M P And so as I mentioned previously, in 2010 it was approved for 738 dwelling units. To date, only 430 units have been built, including

53:07the RV spaces. And the maximum number of dwelling units currently in this substantial modification is capped at five hundred and twenty-six, including those ninety-six. So this shows an overall reduction by 212 dwelling units. The reasoning behind not carrying over those 212 leftover dwelling units is because There's currently an application in review for that westernmost piece that you see that's vacant to rezone from the Callionto Resorts MPUD and take it out and be its own standalone MPUD. Um

53:38additionally, as part of this modification, the applicant will be required to construct a four hundred and five foot northbound right turn lane at the intersection of U S forty one and Caliente Boulevard. Prior to the first building permit for the record plat or first building permit issuance.

53:55Uh here's the master plan. It's a little hard to see, but kind of centered in the middle there. They'll see the cutout between where the existing clubhouse whoop is and the proposed 96 condo units.

54:08So here's the binding concept plan, which demonstrates the 96 condo units spread out amongst four four-story buildings located within the existing parking area that abuts the main lake within the center of Caliente. The binding concept plan shows one vehicular connection onto Gran Via Boulevard and four pedestrian points of connection. Those are those smaller arrows shown.

54:33So then we have a separate exhibit demonstrating the recreation areas within the existing community because part of where the condos are proposed to be located is within a portion of the existing development that currently is occupied by three tennis courts, six pickball courts, and one basketball court. which are proposed to be removed to accommodate this proposal and the associated parking area.

55:00areas will remain. Um so what this is showing is that the applicant will be relocating some of the existing recreational areas to the northern portion of the subject site in that green top hashed area. with two tennis courts and two pickleball two pickleball courts and they will be responsible for relocating The areas mentioned concurrent with the first PSP P D B submittal for the ninety six condo units.

55:28The applicant is also requesting a variation from L D C section nine oh seven point one on-site parking. To reduce the required parking ratio to one and a half, one point five spaces per unit for the post-condominium units. PDE has identified that this proposed develop that this proposal is within an existing development with additional parking in the resort and clubhouse and the need for parking at a ratio of two. Spaces per unit may not be necessary to accommodate the proposed units. Additionally, this modification

55:59is consistent with the existing parking ratio that was established for the multifamily dwelling units in the previous approval, which allows for a parking ratio of 1.5 within that portion of the MPUD. Due to the existing development, having sufficient existing parking space available in adjacent locations in the development to accommodate the proposal, PDE is amenable to granting relief to the variation requested.

56:24And this comes to you with a recommendation of approval to the Board of County Commissioners of the proposed substantial modification to the MPUD with conditions. I'm available if you have any questions.

56:34Any questions, anyone? Ronber? Please. You're off the hook. All right. Thank you.

56:44Thank you.

56:46Mr. Chairman the first individual I have signed up to speak on this item is Joe Hitch.

56:51The applicant needs to present first. Oh yeah, I'm sorry.

56:58Thank you. Shelley Johnson, 6400 Madison Street, and I have been sworn. Um we are in agreement with the conditions as presented, but we're here to answer any questions anyone may have.

57:07Okay. So we want to hear the concerns first and then you come back up. Yeah,

57:11I've been answering.

57:12Thank you, Shelley. All right. So who's the first to speak?

57:18Uh Mr. Joe Hidge, he's online for virtual comment.

57:22Okay. Joe, can you hear us?

57:30Joe?

57:34I think Joe's no longer with us.

57:39We can jump to Mr. Stephen Riddle and we can come back to Joe if he's online.

57:57Yeah.

57:59Good afternoon.

58:05My name is Stefan Riddell. I live at [address removed]. I live at Calliante. Okay. And the pictures when it showed where they're gonna put the four buildings.

58:16Yeah, we we have to we have to swear everybody in. Yeah. First, okay. So anybody that's gonna speak today, would you please stand and be sworn, raise your right hand.

58:27Do you swear or affirm the

58:31Yes.

58:33All right, now you go. I g i I gave you a name and address. Do you need more information from me? No, just what your concerns are. The picture that showed the four buildings going up and it had some buildings next to it. I live in those buildings. So from my building to the next the next closest four story building is seventy feet. Caliente right now has no structures over two feet. I mean two stories. There is nothing that is four stories, three stories or four stories.

59:04This will be a an anomaly in it in the neighborhood. It's not part of the character of two story buildings in Caliente. They're taking as as stated the uh three tennis courts, six pickleball, a tennis pavilion and a half court basketball. They're going to try and squeeze all of that into what to call an overflow area. which has been used numerous times um when spe calling it has special events, the only place to pe put

59:34people is the overflow area. Um It the They had in their um application that the underutilized tennis and recreation courts, they're used daily. They're they're not under u utilized at all. Um they're proposing two tennis courts, two pickleball. if it maybe if it'll fit in that area. It it doesn't look like it when you drive back there and

1:00:04see it. I have no problems with uh a two-story instead of four-story kind of mini building. it they're gonna build the same condominium building style as what's currently there. Um caliente on the map showed that it had twenty five acres on the north West corner up there. Um that was res Caliente L L C sold at to CA Properties, which is Carl Anderson. And Um is

1:00:35there any reas Carl Anderson to steal the the uh person that um the L O L properties is also Carl Anderson. Is there a reason that they can't put the four story to condo towers on that property that's on the the north uh west side of There is a road for that, a road to nowhere that they built for that purpose. Um I think they should put the four stories towers there. The four towers. Thank you. Thank you.

1:01:10The last individual that we had registered for public comment was Joe Hidge, if you're able to hear us.

1:01:26Can he hear us?

1:01:55So

1:01:57Can anyone hear me? Anyone hear me? Do you want to put any mic up?

1:02:01Yeah, go ahead, Joe.

1:02:23Hello, can everyone hear me?

1:02:26Oh we're just experiencing a lot of feedback during that.

1:02:31He may have it on the speaker on his end.

1:02:38I only got one lingo, one lingo.

1:02:43It's not connected for the system.

1:03:24Well we can see all this just becomes

1:03:36Okay.

1:03:39Okay, oh Robert wanna speak.

1:03:45Uh is there anybody else that wants to speak besides the person that's online that can't speak?

1:03:52You know, uh Robert, you spoke to this gentleman yesterday.

1:03:58Robert Overing Planning Development Economic Roth. Yes, I spoke with him yesterday and his main concern I believe was to be the height, kind of as mentioned previously, the height and the character of the overall area not being over two stories and this being four stories was the main concern that he expressed to me. Okay.

1:04:12Where what do you know where he lives?

1:04:14Uh he did not give me that information.

1:04:21Okay, so

1:04:24Give me a couple more minutes and then we'll move on.

1:04:38Ms. Shelley, do you wanna come on up?

1:04:43Okay.

1:04:44Thank you again. Shelley Johnson, sixty-four hundred Madison Street, and I have been sworn. Um to answer the question, the height is that

1:04:50last time.

1:04:51Huh. Um the height actually is the existing height that is already approved for the Calienta M PD for the multifamily condo product. Um it's always been four stories, so it's just matching what was already approved over the years. Um I know some of the multifamily was gonna go immediately adjacent to the single family. And this particular site's actually just immediately adjacent to the actual Calienta Resort, the clubhouse, and so they'll have nice, you know, it's nice and

1:05:19So

1:05:19what amenities

1:05:21will they

1:05:21have there once that four story building is built, if that's what happens?

1:05:25What's that I'm sorry, I didn't hear.

1:05:26What what are the what type of uh seems to be a concern about what type of amenities they'll end up with.

1:05:32Well they're going to they have right now and again th this is from the owner, they have um the six tennis courts or the six the three tennis courts and the six um Uh pickleball courts and then the the uh basketball court and they're highly underutilized. Um and so that's why they're taking them out, putting in the density to, you know, further service the the resort itself. I mean obviously it's behind walls, it's not gonna be out in you know on the right-of-way or anything like that, and ultimately move those courts and reduce the size

1:06:02so that they they still can have them, they'll still have them, but they're just not gonna be as many of them because They're they're underutilized, so I know the two times I was out there they were all empty. There was no one playing, so

1:06:14Okay. Alright, anything else?

1:06:18No.

1:06:19All right. Any questions for Shelley? Not

1:06:23for Shelley, but maybe for staff. Okay. For staff, for staff. I I was just curious what the uh requirement is for park and or green space within an M P U D.

1:06:39So in this particular MPUD, um it was actually it had all of its preliminary plan approval other than what we're doing pretty much right now in 2001. So it was the the neighborhood parks ordinance, which is probably what you're referring to, actually was not adopted and didn't become effective until 2002. So the majority of it it just never applied to as it's built out, obviously. Um there is already a lot of open space and amenities that they've just Already, you know, they've just voluntarily put onto the site because it is supposed to be a resort with the sandball courts, the various,

1:07:10you know, you can see the various pool, there they have a clubhouse, a restaurant, a bar. Um, obviously, they're moving these quartz. They have a walking path, which if that purple line that you're seeing on that exhibit, um, that's actually a walking path that they put through the entire development, um, which people really enjoy. Um, so there's a lot of green space. What we're going to do is at site plan, um if we have to get an alternative standard or, you know, address park issues, we'll do it do it at that time. But um there's a lot of there's a lot of amenities on the site already. So

1:07:40Yeah, I understand it's probably grandfathered in for that. But you know, with a substantial modification to an M P U D I Wouldn't that Now apply. Well the the ninety six units would not be exempt.

1:07:52Right, just to the ninety six units, which is what we'll deal with at site plane, yeah. Okay. And whatever it means we do we we think there's but uh there's a good amount of Oh with the c c the quartz and the s the sand volleyball and the the path through the whole entire development. It's there's some nice amenities in there, so w w you know we feel comfortable addressing it at that time.

1:08:10Yeah. Problem is is it's potentially taking away amenities from the rest of the neighborhood, so Although the ninety six units will fall under that then Are the are the amenities

1:08:21that are there are those Belonging to the hotel and resort or are they for all residents of the development?

1:08:29Um all residents. Yeah. And the walking path surprisingly is open to all residents too. So and it's through the whole development. Um Again, they the the amount of courts that they have are just underutilized. So, you know, they are going to move them because we they we did have a couple conversations with a couple of residents who had raised that. Um and and I know the manager sp spoke with them that, you know, and that was the intention is to go ahead and Just move them um to this other area, have some amenities around there you can see. Uh 'cause they think that, you know, they'll be utilized a

1:08:59lot more. Without having so many of them.

1:09:02Can you address the question about why you're not developing the Western

1:09:08So that property is um the one that is currently under a separate MPUD. Um it's it's under contract, it's being purchased, so Um it's no you know, this is the last little piece in caliente that's really there to be built out and then this this this MPD's done. There's no more space.

1:09:26Okay. Shelly on the on the map that's on the screen, is that residential to the northeast there, adjacent to where the pickleball and tennis court, is that part of Caliente too?

1:09:34Yeah, it's R V resort. So our um the Caliente has R V, it's got condo, it has um existing villa, townhome, and then you know single family development. And of course the whole thing. the restaurant, the bar, so it has a real nice mix of uses. But yeah, that's R V. At that corner. Okay.

1:09:53Yeah, I just wanted to make sure when you're moving that I mean complaint you hear a lot of times with pickleballs the noise. Yeah.

1:10:02That doesn't Get the pleasure of hearing that all night.

1:10:05Yeah. It's R V. I think some of it's a rental, so yeah. Um I'll I'll definitely definitely let the owner know that you all had praised that and Uh you know, they they do everything real nice in there with regards to the amen amenities, so I know the intention would be to to make it a nice another nice amenity for them, for the residents to utilize.

1:10:23And Shelley real quick so to the residents uh point that testified those pickleball courts where they're going and the testif they will fit in that area, they've been

1:10:33Yeah, Paul Emmanuel, who is our civil engineer on this, he actually looked at it and he's he's determined that's where they can go. Okay. Yeah. And we did have him look at that, yes.

1:10:42Okay. Any other questions?

1:10:46Okay. Nobody else to speak? No? Every motion?

1:10:57Are you there's a motion for five and nine.

1:11:00We do one, but I'm not sure if you

1:11:02should take action separately, right? Okay. Yeah, but we're it's gonna be for both of 'em, but two two separate.

1:11:11We do still have Mr. Joe Hide or Hidge online. Um I'm not sure if we're able to pull him up or not yet still.

1:11:22Yeah I'm here. Can you hear me? Go

1:11:25ahead, Jump,

1:11:25got jump, gotcha. You hear me okay?

1:11:30Yeah, we can.

1:11:33Fantastic. Thank you. So Yeah, what we said earlier and thank you for bearing with us here when we get through the perforation echo. I I apologize. Um Yeah that Basically I think someone else did it in earlier as well. I'm at [address removed]. And the proposed area for the ninety six units is, you know, taking six pickleball courts, three clay tennis courts, and a tennis pavilion and basketball court. As everyone knows, Bitcoin is the fastest road

1:12:03support America has been for three or four years.

1:12:21very concerned going from a usage of six pickleball courts down to two is completely unacceptable. Um and then also the people in place.

1:12:49S two. Why that's been shrunk and reduced. Yeah, why

1:13:03Other people that use that as an amenity to the facility.

1:13:10All right. Can he hear us?

1:13:15Anybody have any questions of uh Joe?

1:13:23Yes, you can hear us.

1:13:25Yeah. Okay. And

1:13:27no questions up here?

1:13:30No, not not from him. I'd be curious to know from from staff, you know, if if this MPD was subject to the new park regulations, how much space would be required? I understand it's grandfathered in by a year, but

1:13:47Well by

1:13:47the strict interpretation of the code they would have to dedicate an acre of land and then there are certain dimensional standards for the park as well. I'm sure they'll probably seek some sort of alternative standard to that.

1:14:02It was one acre.

1:14:04One acre. Yeah.

1:14:08Thank you.

1:14:11All right, that answer your question there. Yeah, I mean it's it's five acres, but so I guess the only thing that would be required for the existing MPUD would be an acre of that. Um You know, so I don't know how much of this is you know, I guess they're gonna be dedicating about that much to the uh northeast there. But that's that's just my concern is it seems like it's taking away a lot of amenities that people are used to in the neighborhood. Mm-hmm.

1:14:44Okay. Anybody else have any feelings about it? Any comments? See your opportunity or your motion?

1:15:01Move to approve item P five.

1:15:04We have a motion to approve item P five.

1:15:09Further discussion? All in favor, so you can definitely say aye.

1:15:13Did you get a

1:15:13second?

1:15:16I thought I did. Oh second. Okay.

1:15:21All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, like, sign. Okay, now we have a motion on P9.

1:15:32Move to approve item P nine.

1:15:37We have a motion on P nine.

1:15:41I'll

1:15:41second

1:15:42that one too. And we have a second. Any further discussion of the motion? If not, all in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, like, sign.