Public comment on Marion Lane equestrian water shutoffs
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All right, Commissioner Starkey, see you. Thank you. Uh now is the time for public comment. Citizens are given opportunity to comment on any current or future agenda item coming before the board and on other business under the board's purview. Today's public comment will be handled as follows. First we will take public comment from those who are here in person. Then we will take public comment from those who are pre-registered at WebEx Link and currently on queue. We request that when you address the board, comments are not directed personally at against a commissioner or a team member, but rather directed at issues. This
provides mutual respect between the board members and the public.
After stating your name and address for the clerk, a three-minute timer will be activated. A green light will show be shown in the podium. After two minutes, a yellow light will indicate you have one minute left. When your time is up, a red light will be displayed. Three beeps will sound and you will close your comments. WebEx participants will be disconnected automatically when their time is up. Madam Clerk, do we have anyone signed up for public comments?
We do, Mr. Chair. We have um Joseph Bollock, if you could please step up to the Uh podium and then followed by Alison Moore. And there's a couple more.
Good morning. My name is Joseph Boleck. I live at [address removed]. I'd like to address the Marion Lane subdivision issue. Marion Lane is a dirt road maintained by the residents, and it crosses a stream with all metal carbon. There is uh this culvert does not support any type of contract or sanitation companies. The reason this is important is that a contractor is
thinking about building a subdivision in the Marion Lane. During the rainy season, this often floods with half the photo of the flood.
That's Marian Lane. during the rainy season. Okay? Uh also if you consider the fact that Merrion Lane is a privately owned dirt road, once the subdivision is installed, it now becomes under a different category according to the county code. Uh thus it's gotta meet those uh county standards as per paragraph nine oh one point six. It's not twenty six feet wide. Doesn't have two and a half inches of concrete, does not
have a minimum clearance of four feet, and the culvert does not meet the standards. Also, it's in table 901.6 alpha must have two through lanes with the culva site. Finally, it has to have a turn. As indicated in these areas above, the cover often floods. This is the culvert. This was taken several weeks ago at the end of the dry season. As you can see, it's almost getting ready to cover the road again. There's another photo
here of the same creek as it goes over Pasco Road. Quite a bit of difference in the way it's built. Uh this property was normally used for cattle grazing with little rain or other runoff. It properly slopes down to a stream. The subdivision will require some type of a pond to prevent this. The design of the subdivision has not made requirement 700.6 considering the soil conditions. I would say due to the
conditions of the road, residents must transport garbage to the intersection of Marion Lane. Gotta have the picture of the garbage. This belongs, this corner belongs to Mr. Bobo, and he is not very enthusiastic about having more individuals put their garbage on his land. Finally, as I look at this, I believe uh if it is approved Then The county should ensure that the bill meets all the standards
of the road, bridge, and retention pond. I also believe we should be required to maintain the road for a minimum of ten years, or do residents be advised in requirement any sales. A review of 506.6 states that each lot must be one acre. If you put in roads, if you put in cul-sacks, if you put in other things, there's only about three and a half acres left. Okay? Meaning rather than approving five lots, all you should lose is three lots.
Thank you, sir.
Next up is Alison Moore followed by Carrie Heiser.
Good morning. Good morning. I'm Alison. I live on [address removed]. I've been here before in front of you guys about the same issue. Um I've met with uh Commissioner Oakley about it, uh but I'm here again to You know, beg the board to look closer at the project and the access that's used to get to it. Um myself and my neighbors oh I actually have some papers that I suppose to move to receive and file. Give to someone.
All in favor say aye. Aye.
I'm sorry.
Um myself and my neighbors, we live in a deed restricted community that this access runs right through the middle of on a private road that we paint to maintain and to um have access to our properties. We believe that the um increase in traffic will overburden the easement with no like plan as to how it's going to be maintained. Um as if it is now it's like a good neighbor situation, like, hey, will you pay? Will you
pay? Um, you know It's already a challenge. Can you imagine we're adding five more homes or four more homes to it? Um To try to get people to you know, do anything. Not to mention with the increase in traffic, it honestly needs to be improved. Like These are the twenty neighbors that I had um against the project, but I also have pictures again of the flood that Mr. Bolick put up there um on the culvert. The culvert is supposed to be um taken care of by Swift
Mud. Um go to the other one, the dry one. Um
It's only nine foot wide, which is just wide enough for the car. No not two cars can pass on it. Um so it bottlenecks there and with the with just the couple of people that use it now, I can't even imagine what it's gonna be like with, you know, fifty, sixty, however many more passes the county has deemed um to pass on the Pulver every day. Um, you know, we've I've been arguing with the county since the planning stage of this and no one has been able to give me any feedback that makes sense. You know, it's a civil
matter. Yeah, it's a civil matter that now we're gonna have to spend tens of thousands of dollars to try to address. Um, I feel like if you're gonna make a project you should have to address the access to the project, you know, so that's my frustration. Um and my neighbor's frustration is like even if he has future land use codes, you know, it has to make sense how you get there. Um and you're getting there traversing over our property, our easement that we pay for, we maintain, um, that really logistically
is a unique situation. I have actually a um paper in there that That is the um traffic analysis that the developers supposedly did.
No. Yeah, I just gave it to her.
Can we get those pictures? Did you know?
It's one of the most important ones actually.
It says on there that there's no unique traffic safety issues on the road, which I don't know who determined that, but there obviously is issues with safety and traffic on the road. It's that second page of that right there. I've started as well.
You want me to show the rest of the pictures too?
Yeah. The other ones talk about the Swift Mud um factor that there should have been some kind of um petition to Swift Mud because you're crossing over their watershed with the culvert that's not um adequate. Um there's major, you know, logistical issues that have not been addressed by the county. I don't even think the county has come out to even look at it. They look at it on a map and say, oh look, there's a road. Well, I mean there is but there isn't, you know, it's it's not a
very nice road. Um
No, that one was already done by Mr. Bolock. I'm talking about the one that talks about the traffic um analysis. It was on the top. The second one to that. Yep, there's two of them.
Yep, right there, that one with this big star on it. Yep. So right here he submitted this that says describe any unique traffic safety issues with access and he says there's none. That's not true. Like there's definitely and I've been screaming about it for probably three years now, that there's definite um safety traffic issues with accessing the property. Um and again, you know, I don't know where this came from, I don't know who did this. This is something I think that he submitted. Um, because whenever
I talk to the county they said, We don't know anything about the road. It's a private road, you know, like that's your Problem, which I guess I get, but at the same time, you know, the county keeps saying, Oh, it's a civil matter, and I keep telling them you're creating the civil matter because you're not addressing the problem with foresight. You know, you're saying, Oh, too bad, y'all figure it out, but we're going to approve something that's causing the go figure it out, if it makes sense. Um, and that's frustrating for us, you know, when we've literally been complaining since the planning's
Like nothing we can do, too bad, you know? Um go hire an attorney um and work it out yourself. Um when like I said the county's causing the problem. So, I mean, I just feel like that if you guys do your dil due diligence, then you know we won't have this problem.
Okay. Thank you. Mm-hmm.
We have Carrie, I believe it's Heiser. Followed by Nancy Hazelwood, followed by Cindy Buckle.
Good morning. Um so my husband and I own the property at [address removed]. And We it's a 20-acre parcel on one side and the other side of our driveway is the five acre. parcel owned by VJ Mariala who and that's the man attempting to subdivide the five acres and we're here obviously to request that that would get denied. Um For two
reasons. So the first reason is as the neighbors have discussed Marion Lane is actually a private road. It's not county maintained. And then once you get to right before the culvert, I think it is. um that's flooded and not properly maintained and not able to hold a lot of vehicles and large vehicles, then that starts the private easement, which is my husband and my private driveway. And we just think that it would be unnecessary
uh increased traffic and congestion on the whole road, including our private easement. So there's two easements. Um I just want to make sure that makes that is getting conveyed. There's the Marion Lane easement and then there's the easement with myself, my husband, and Mr. Mariella. There's going to be additional wear and tear on our private easement. resulting in higher maintenance costs. There's structural limitations on the culvert for the creek. It's already at capacity, it's not in great
shape. So now if we're gonna add in construction vehicles and four more families, it's really, it's not a good situation. Um And just to show you some of the financial uh strain that it's put on my husband and me. the people that already live, the tenants at [address removed]. They have broken the our mule gate. It has a gate with a very extensive electronic arm. It has
a simple button that you push and And s we've had many problems with these neighbors, but um Instead of pushing the button to open the gate, which is a very simple uh action. They decided to push it open and it bent the gate. If you wanna can I give these to you?
Motor scene file.
I'm sorry. Should I just show you from here? You can put them there. If you want to put them on the screen, we can put them right over there first.
Um put the parcel idea up on this if we have more people talking that we can s orient. Can
we get the partial ID up there after those pictures?
Thank you,
Chairman
Mariano.
I drove that a few months back, so I'm familiar with the area.
Need to keep talking. Yeah.
So anyway, it's just a financial burden not only for all the neighbors because of maintenance of Mary Lane. But also personally for my husband and me, we now have to replace this mule arm. They've been unwilling to assist or even respond and take any ownership of of the matter. And we're quoted at a minimum $25,000 to try to fight this legally. Thank you.
Nancy Hazelwood, followed by Cindy Buckle.
We never got to see her pictures.
Yeah, we can get those pictures up. Can you h hang on one second, Nancy? Sure.
So where's your private drive?
That's the working game.
Okay. All right, if it would go back to the um She has two open.
Yeah.
Okay. And if you put the parcel ID up just kinda back it out a little bit so we can get a better overall view.
You want her back up? I'll sit down.
No, that's okay. I just we'll just Gotta Look at it. Okay. Go ahead, Nancy.
That's the wrong image for me though. Oh,
okay, your image. Go ahead.
Um Nancy Hayeswood, [address removed]. I hope you don't mind listening to what's on my mind this morning. Um this is the green swamp. It figures very prominently in the Northeaster Rural Area Plan. You if you take a look at that, you can see that the Northeaster area plan is kind of protecting the green swamp. up from the rest of what's going on in Pasco. Um I wanna switch
from there. Uh I've advocated for equestrian growth and development in the area, but I can't seem to get any traction on it. I know you all have a growth and development people on board, but nobody seems to look at that yet. You've got Ocala down the way, it's second in the country for equestrian. Why can't we pick up? I don't wanna be O'Cala, but let's pick up what they have. Why isn't this economic development done
in a different way? I know we've got a bunch of sports And you pick that up, but everybody's got sports. Nobody has this. Where else but Florida can people bring their horses in the wintertime? We've also got the little Everglades sitting over there. I don't know how they feel about, but maybe somebody could approach them. That was a huge fundraiser for Northeast Rural and the County. And that could've gone places. So um if we can't go
equestrian, where are we gonna go? I'm you know, I'm hearing things like, you know, we need a well fill. Well, why do we need a well fill? We aren't supposed to grow in northeast rural. We need a wastewater treatment plant. Why do we need a west wastewater treatment plant? If it's for the rest of Pasco, let's put it on the rest of Pasco, not way out in the north end. So there's many things that I have on my mind and y'all are approving things are
going to whittle it down. Let's slow it down, take a look at where it can go. what we can do to save our water resources and the green swamp. The Brooksville Ridge figures on there. We've got something that's unique and wonderful. Do you really want to garbage it up with ten houses per acre or apartments like the rest of it because that's where it's going right now. I mean it doesn't look like it, but I've watched this for how many years?
Twenty now? Anyways, thank you for being patient with me. I appreciate it. Okay.
So uh Mr. Chair, the last one I have signed up in person is Cindy Buckle, if you would uh come to the podium and then I do have someone online.
Okay. Cindy Buckle, [address removed]. I want to start off with the fact that I have a bachelor's degree in wildlife ecology and conservation. But my big thing is the equestrians. I have had horses my entire life in Pasco County. 30th Street was 30th Street. Highway 54 was Highway 54. I showed horses my entire life.
I have moved three times now because development has flooded my pastures. I can no longer afford to move to any of the equestrian properties that are being offered in Pasco County because they start at 500,000 for two acres up to Two million. for forty three acres. I don't have that kind of money. I have been forced off two properties and I am currently living on [address removed], which is an equestrian community, And right
now there is development happening at the corner of Gateway and and Marks. which is or gateway in 54 which is the only way we have to get into Frontier Drive. Frontier Drive was severely flooded. after Hurricane Milton. And it wasn't because um The the whole reason was because there's no kind of drainage. It is a private road. Um We have ponds on the road. We want to
keep it private. And right now The trucks that are dumping dirt onto that 27-acre property are coming down our road, destroying our road, turning around at the end of the road and destroying it. We do not want our road repaved. Every resident on the road has signed a petition to say so, We have maintained it. We don't want it taken care of. But my question is O'Cala has built equestrian places and I'm talking five acres. And
Well oh uh that's fine, but if you could bring equestrian properties here Even a twenty acre property or a some kind of area where boarding facilities could be given to people who have horses. I know people right now that are selling their horses because they have nowhere to go with them. And I'm over it. I am personally it's just it's hard. And right now We're losing our places to ride horses. We actually
have to put them in a trailer to take them somewhere to ride. And this is a shame because Pasco County I've ridden horses for Fifty years. And It's time for you all to look at the more more space instead of the zero lot line cookie cutter homes. And we don't need any more industrial cement plants in the rural areas. We have to save some rural Pasco.
Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else in the audience who would like to address the board before I go to online? I will close public comment in the room online.
Okay. Um Mr. Ross Jürger, we have elevated you. If you would like to unmute, you can begin um your your comments after you've stated your name and address for the record.
Morning everyone. Ross Berger, YER, GER, [address removed], President.
Thank you.
My question and comment today is with regards to Greenwich Water Shutoffs by Al Substant Water. We've over the town. He is eventually taking it at a birth. And I was in a lunar chain with Mr. Mariano assistants and some other people. From the uh relative departments from the county, and that kind of just suddenly stopped. We didn't get the responses that we were told we were going to get. And uh, not only
as a member of the community and constituent, I'm also a member of the media. We've got a bunch of people that have gone on record to say that they're pretty frustrated. We have the ananelity. shut off with water in the middle of the day, in the middle of the middle of the ponder, washing dishes, whatever they're trying to get done around the house, and all of a sudden that stops with no notice.
Today's uh invite for today's meeting, I got it at 9.54 a.m. today. So if the issue is the communication and how can the commissioners in the county uh better improve that and make it more efficient and even consistent? Thank you.
Thank you.
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right,