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Ron OakleyChair

All right. Mr. Chairman Mariano Nictorios Pitos Planning and Economic Growth.

Thank you. Good morning. Today we're going to talk about New Pasco County public hearing signs. A few months ago the Board of County Commissioners requested a redo of the types of public hearing signs that we use. And we have we're doing this kind of old school halfway. We have the existing Pasco County sign behind me. It's about twenty four inches in width by thirty-six inches in height. And you can see a couple of interesting aspects of it. A lot of blank lines, a lot of it is handwritten. Uh

the way applicants fill this out is they fill in And then they X out as public hearing progress through the process. It's a one-size-fits-all type of sign. Today we're going to uh introduce to you a new Pasco County uh public hearing sign. The proposed sign is 36 inches tall and 44 inches in height. It allows for A little bit more space.

Yes, and to that effect we do have updated attachments for you all that we can submit for the record as well. Move to our

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

statement. Do we have to do that from if it's from staff?

Jamie Lynch

Yeah. If you want it as part that's really up to the clerk's office if you want it as part of the record. It's okay. No. Okay.

Ron OakleyChair

Okay, so the attachments are going to sort of show the type of sign that can fit in this w uh dimension, and we'll walk through it in just a second. And just by reason of comparison, the Hillsborough County public hearing sign is just a little bigger at thirty-nine inches by forty-eight inches. So, with that, we'll put up the actual size behind me and you can see what's new with the new sign. And this new sign has been developed by the Planning and Economic Growth Department in coordination and collaboration with

the County Attorney's Office as well as the County Administrator's Office. So I'd like to thank those offices as well for their help. And what's new here is that you can see a new vibrant color scheme has been introduced, larger size. uh in the overall sign type, uh as well as larger sizes in the fonts. And they're actually more legible because it's no longer handwriting, it's all typed font. And we'll walk through these are all going to be PDF documents with drop down menus for applicants to select to

make their choices. and then take to the printers to post uh to print and post on their site. Importantly, we've also added a QR code that will allow people to take pictures of their of these public hearing signs and actually navigate to the Pasco County website and uh obtain the information associated with the public hearing signs.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Uh Terry, can I ask you a question?

Ron OakleyChair

Yes.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

So that was interesting. So so the the applicant Gets a PDF and has a company print these? Is that

Ron OakleyChair

yes.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Oh I I never knew that part of this.

Ron OakleyChair

So we'll get to that in a second. I'll explain how the logistics of it works. So there are a number of product types that planning brings forward to the Board of County Commissioners. And each of those product types have I call them product types that are different types of projects, right? Uh different product types that are brought to the Board of County Commissioners, and each of those have different types of public hearing that need to be uh heard. And the number of hearings is different for each one. So we have comprehensive plan amendments, we have comprehensive plan amendments at small scale, we

have rezoning and conditional uses, we have special exceptions, alternative standards, variances and waivers, and we have appeals. Each one of these product types will have their own PDF sign. So it's no longer a one size fits all, but a very customized uh approach. So that the public can be fully informed about the exact type of product or project that is going to be heard by either the Board of County Commissioners or the Planning Commission slash local planning agency and even the villages

of Pasadena Hills. Planning and Policy Committee. Here's an example of on the overhead of a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment. You'll notice a local planning agency meeting line and a Board of County Commissioners meeting line. These are all drop down menus. Well, the dates are drop down menus that can be selected, as well as drop downs to illustrate from what type of category or or in this case future land use designation to what other type of future

land use designation is being selected. Behind me is what is the normal comprehensive plan process and you'll notice There's three lines there, which sort of illustrates the point that the these are customized. This is a an application of a rezoning public hearing sign and see the terminology has now changed to planning commission. And also uh a little bit more description about what can actually take place with regard to the zoning. uh project that might be heard.

And as I said, Planning Commission and Board of County Commissioners. These are the um various product types that are brought forward from time to time that are associated with the villages of Pasadena Hills. This is going to require us to produce a specific sign type for V OPH. Again, comprehensive plan amendments, rezoning, special exceptions, so on and so forth. And You can see in the VOPH public hearing sign, there's a bit more activity to take that takes place. You have to go, in the case of a comprehensive plan amendment, you have to go to

the VOPH Planning and Policy Committee. Then you need to go to the local planning agency. In the case of a large-scale comprehensive plan amendment, if it's greater than 50 acres, for example, two Board of County Commissioners meeting So you can kind of see how many different types of meetings a particular project needs to go through and how the old sign was a bit difficult in communicating all that information to the public. So um that's the presentation of the news site and we'd like to get your feedback and and understand uh

the board's uh perspective.

Jack Mariano

Okay.

Seth Weightman

Terry and team, I I tell you this is a very good thing. to add this level of clarity and transparency for projects coming in and the Pasco County I think is fantastic. I think the only thing that's missing from the news sign is a picture of Mike Karbala's face. On the top right. But uh But no, great great work here. This is uh it make make folks to see what's going on easier and they can come and and uh participate in the process. So good work.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Uh yeah, I think I think this is really uh good. Um and I love the variability that you have there. So I think our citizens will really appreciate this. So good job.

Ron OakleyChair

And Commissioner O I did forget to uh mention that this would be a sign that would be filled out by the staff or excuse me by the applicant. Staff would make the prescription to the applicant and say this is the this is the process that you need to go through. So here's the PDF template that you need to fill out and then the applicant would make their selections. and then go to the print shop, print their own sign, take it out to their site, post it on their property. Okay. Right. Yeah. That sounds good. It's good.

Ron OakleyChair

Mr. Marin, you want to speak? Commissioner first?

Lisa Yeager

Okay. I think it's great and um it's very visible. So, you know, especially like for us over fifty club that can't see very well. Um I I think it's awesome and you did a great job on it.

Jack Mariano

Yeah. Uh Terry, I I know I brought this idea to you a long time ago and it's been taking a while and a long time to get here and I wanna say what you've come up with is phenomenal. I think it's something you can post that sign, even if it's flat to the road, people can see that going by, which is huge. Uh the visibility and now they know what to do. Um I'm gonna say I just struggled a little bit. I just went to the the code. and I tried to log it, but I couldn't get to the exact thing. So if you would just take a Another look at that or sit down and show me but I I don't know if there's an easier way to do it but exactly how to get to

This is something maybe just have to tweak. Just I just like saying just clicked on it. So maybe it's me, but um I love the idea. I think it's absolutely phenomenal what you've come up with. Um so thank you so much. Thank you, Commissioner.

Ron OakleyChair

Okay. Are we asking for uh approval?

All right. So I think we're good. Phenomenal.

Lisa Yeager

Yep, well done.

Ron OakleyChair

So no vote. That's it. No vote at all. Y'all just go to work. Yes sir.

Ron OakleyChair

I'm good

Ron OakleyChair

with that.

Ron OakleyChair

As soon as we work out a last minute detail, we'll start uh implementing these new signs and you'll start seeing them around the county.

Ron OakleyChair

Yeah. Just let us know when it happens. That happens. So we know. Tremendous. That'll be good. Uh so We do our phone

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

photo now.

Ron OakleyChair

Um no, I don't think so.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

When do we do the further?

Ron OakleyChair

Oh. When do we do a photo of the commission?

Mike Carballa

Right now, sir.