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2:25:35right. Or old business. Mr. Whiteman.

2:25:38Thank you, Chair. I don't think we have any, I don't think we see any pictures, but just one to We had a groundbreaking about 120 days or so ago at the um new Advent Health ER at 54 Meta Point. Very similar to the one that's at 54 and um the veterans. And And uh had a beam signing last week and they're on their way to being open uh hopefully end of Q1 next year, so they're moving right along. And just congratulations

2:26:09to the advent team for uh Zephyrhills and Wesley Chapel. There seems to be a tug of war. We just want to manage that site. But it's another piece of nice health health care infrastructure coming our way and uh just uh glad we're Thank you.

2:26:26Um, okay, starting with Veterans Day, I um enjoyed the Veterans Lunch. I think a number of us were there at New Port Richey it's always a wonderful event. Um where do they get their veterans list, do you know?

2:26:40They have the membership. The membership. Yeah,

2:26:43their members go

2:26:44well. You're not a you're not a member and you got

2:26:47one, right? Well I was canvased by a member years ago, so I think it is

2:26:52I just have a few that maybe I wanna ask if we consider.

2:26:56Send them my way.

2:26:57Yeah, okay. So the members submit? Yeah. Is that how that works? Okay. I also uh spoke at the country place um veterans event uh Sunday, so that was nice that they invited me. Um I did not know I was the keynote speaker. So I know I let them down. I wasn't prepared for that. But you know, we're not like number thirty or thirty five in the state for the number of veterans uh per capita. I did not realize that. I thought we were much higher. Um And

2:27:28when I looked at the stats Then these were as of twenty twenty two. It said we still had one thousand two hundred and twenty two or something like that. World War Two veterans in Pasco County. So Well, that that's one of th that that kinda surprised me. Yeah. Two or three get and they were like pushing a hundred, I think. So Um I don't know where they're all hiding, but that was interesting. Um but I need to appoint uh Kelly Hackman to the Tourist Development Council um to

2:27:58fill the vacant seat from Wendy who left us. So um I I'd like to make that motion. Move.

2:28:05Okay.

2:28:06Second.

2:28:06All right. We got it on motion of second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion passed five zero.

2:28:12Mr. Carbal, I sent you a photo because I didn't know who to send it to. I didn't I couldn't tell who was sitting over there. Are you able to forward that? Um do you have it? Uh I am sorry. Okay. So while he's moving that over, um um I wanna talk again about burying power lines. And Uh There are many communities in the state that require I'm not talking about the big ones. But require all

2:28:42the other ones to go under. Don't they do that do they do that, manatee? I know Miami Dade did it.

2:28:48The regulations are in Manatee are virtually the same as here. The all all subdivision uh power needs to be underground.

2:28:58What does that mean? Once you get into the subdivision,

2:29:01but not

2:29:01in front of it?

2:29:02So transmission lines down local transmission lines down the roadway corridors are above ground, but once you get into the subdivision, they're underground.

2:29:13I 'cause I I'm trying to understand it. When I drive down Starkey and I I know a number of you do go down Starkey when you're going to and from work. And and David maybe you notice this. The the new um long leaf four four hundred homes to the north, neighborhood four. They've put all these power lines right in front of the neighborhood where w all the other parts of Longleaf which our family developed, there's no power lines in front of the neighborhood. So It looks so bad. And um

2:29:44but also all these power lines go down and people without power. I know people in Gulf Harbors, there's people you know wanting to come together to put our our power lines down. I know it's expensive to do it um after the fact, but I wish we had stronger regulations requiring power lines to go underground. And we wouldn't be without without power like like we were.

2:30:07No, you still would be.

2:30:09No, not not as much.

2:30:11Well the they got there through their door and like my all mine was uh based on underground in my neighborhood. But they came there by above ground. All I have to get damages is what cuts off my power.

2:30:24Well in Aristida, another one that my husband did, uh he did not put the power lines under. He could have. And maybe we didn't have those rules then, but We'll lose power 'cause of a squirrel or something. I mean it it Yeah. We've got a lot of squirrels on

2:30:39our way. Just be careful with that because if it's a co-op or somebody, if you're gonna force them underground, they gotta look at their rate structure and it may force them to raise rates that they may not want to. That's you know that's a

2:30:54lot of money for underground

2:30:56all the way. I just see other communities going to it. Um as a matter of fact, City Clearwater's looking at going other ground. Um okay so s I wanted to talk about these streetlights. These are the Metro streetlights that are solar powered. I don't know how much these cost. But I w I wondered and I think they have different versions of these. I think these are the big ones and then they have a smaller one that goes on the side streets. But they don't require any elect

2:31:26electricity. I think they're just solar powered I would I was wondering if there if we shouldn't strategically put some of these at some of our school bus stops. 'Cause I'm going by now especially with the time change, I'm seeing kids. in the total darkness at some of these bus stops, it seems to me this might be a good little project for um for some of our bus stops because those are our responsibility, not the school district. So it's just something to think about. Then I I as I drive

2:31:56Trouble Creek often I I'm still in total darkness. I think there's two lights on light poles on Trouble Creek and I think they actually belong to the subdivision to the south and they're not literally on Trouble Creek. Trinity has no lights, Starkey Boulevard has no lights until you get to the bridge. What what is our street road lighting program?

2:32:22So it is part of our capital program. We do have lighting requirements. I'm pretty sure Trouble Creek is on that list. Uh we can present the board with where where it currently is. I mean this these are things that we we fund through our you know additional funding sources. So we we do set aside dollars. I think it's from is it from the Penny Day? uh in terms of uh penny funds that are allocated towards roadway safety improvements which which would include lighting. So it's just a matter of prioritizing

2:32:53and getting them done.

2:32:55So it isn't built in when we build a road like when we w widen Old Pasco it won't have lights built into the cost of it?

2:33:02Uh I'm not sure. I think when we do them we do include lighting or do we not?

2:33:08Well we didn't put 'em on Trinity. And we didn't put 'em on Starkey.

2:33:11Well there's a lot of roads

2:33:13south

2:33:13pa east Pasco that I wish we had some of these kind of lighting 'cause it's awfully dark out in the

2:33:18Yeah, it's scary. Especially the older you get.

2:33:21Okay, go ahead Nick. If I may, uh Commissioner uh County Engineer Nick Uren, um this is a timely comment. We absolutely I I've already directed my staff to develop a policy on when and where we will will prioritize the construction of new streetlights. We're looking at the solar powered option as well as powering them. Traditionally powered streetlights with underground electric. We can go one of two ways. We can construct the poles and buy power, construct and own the poles and buy power from the utility p company, the power provider. Or

2:33:52we can lease the poles and allow that utility provider to provide us both the electricity and the operation and maintenance, basically changing out the bulbs, making sure that they function properly. So we're looking at all three of those options and we're also identifying W how do we score the corridors for installation and how do we put forward projects for your consideration as part of our capital program? So Mike's absolutely right. We are we're taking aggressive steps to um nail this down so that we are not being asked When do you do it and where and

2:34:22why? You'll have the policy in your hand shortly.

2:34:25All right, and that reminds me and I know um Wheelock did start uh Lake Blanche Drive and I don't think the county has accepted it yet. Um But uh for a year now Matt um call there has been telling me they're waiting on the streetlights for Lake Blanche Drive that they were putting them in. So let's make sure we don't accept Lake Blanche Drive until the the streetlights are in.

2:34:52Let's see. Uh a question. As I rode around on my boat this weekend and I saw the destroyed docks everywhere except mine.

2:35:05And I talked to one of the companies out there, what is the process for dock permits. I've not hear heard us talk about this at any of the meetings And I know when I built my dock, if you remember Jeff It was at that time when we weren't actually doing it right. And I just got a code enforcement permit. But now we require building construction permits and engineering and so I'm assuming all those people are gonna have to get in line to get

2:35:35re engineered docks. So And is it fifty percent damaged or what what's the rule on docks?

2:35:41Yeah, the uh the forty nine percent rule does not apply to accessory structures and docks, so they would just get a regular uh repair permit or alterations permit for that dock.

2:35:50Um so Yeah, but back then they were not engineered and they didn't have to have a permit. So how what what is what is the process and how do we communicate it? I need you to be a little more specific.

2:36:02Okay, I I'll have to provide you get you very specific details for for docks that were pre engineered, my assumption is you can still repair like for like. Um but I'll get you very detailed instruction.

2:36:15Yeah. And they fall under your

2:36:17nonconformity rules. I'll have to I'll have to evaluate that, yeah. Uh I'll have a great answer for you on that. But otherwise Docks would go back through the regular um permitting process.

2:36:30But okay, my point is they didn't do that before. So the regular pruning process is engineered uh an engineer doc permit.

2:36:40Correct.

2:36:43That's gonna be interesting. That's bureaucratic. Yeah, but that's the law. I mean we were break we weren't doing it right before. Somehow it slipped through our Florida building code rules. So it's just gonna be a surprise for some of these guys, I think.

2:37:03Okay, so we'll get that out we'll get that decided and get that message out. Um I uh lastly uh my uh office is working on a farm share. Um event. We need to have uh thirty thirty people signed up. I wanted you know was hoping it would be the county commissioners and their staffs and start there so um please you're gonna get an email from Katie and Jenny and um

2:37:33and we'll work on our Rs because you know everyone else does theirs but they had approached me a number of years ago to do one from the Commission Office and we did act upon it so we'd like to get that going. All right, so look for an email um from the for the county commission

2:37:48to Kavala to

2:37:50especially this year

2:37:51there's so much need. With Commissioner's lighting point with with Commissioner Starkey's lighting point. Does the school district obviously the school district determines their bus routes and where those bus stations are. So what kind of coordination between where the bus stops are and where there may or may not be lighting from the county? Is there any kind of communication between our two organizations for that specific

2:38:15Specifically to lighting in my experience, no, that may have changed since I've been removed from the day to day operations of that but specifically it was usually case by case. We say

2:38:25keys

2:38:26and private property owners would have to just because of who's paying what was start on on the light bill, if you will. So and and bus bus stops change all the time. So um but the solar power the solar power thing might work but Well that that's that's why I I made a mental note of Commissioner Starkey's idea. in which case then there's capital cost and then we'll see. Although I'm not sure they're completely sold or not we'll we'll certainly look into that.

2:38:52Um I have one more thing and I'm I asked had asked Keith Wiley to be on um Kathy, you were at the meeting that we so we had Kathy, Keith and I and David Goldstein had a meeting meeting uh last week or this week, whenever it was, on um um

2:39:10the joint use agreement between the s the K eight at Starkey and the Cultural Center. And uh we did get some resolution. They've been locking the plate the parking lot too early. Now they're gonna lock it later, right David? That's what the email that we got. Um and um also, you know, wanting to be sure that we're able to access that meeting room um 'cause sometimes it's kind of tough for us and also we're looking at using the gym a little more because we have we

2:39:40really haven't programmed the gym that is a shared gym so that was that was a good meeting. But while we were there they brought up the um That parents are dropping their kids off in the park and then they're walking through to get to the school. Well, we started. finally going really under construction on the multi-use fields there and all of a sudden I have all these parents contacting me because we've stopped we've blocked off the roads to the back part of the

2:40:10park and I get it um because there's construction trucks going in there to work back there David, do you remember this came up at the meeting? Um, I told the parents I don't believe that it was ever intended that they were supposed to drop their kids off in the park and have 'em walk to the school that way. Uh apparently the school drive line is only You you have to have permission to be in the drop off line at the school, which is new to me. Um And

2:40:41so some of those people are afraid to for whatever reason to have their kids walk or ride their bike to school. So they're all using the park. Um They wanted me to see about opening up those gates. Uh and but then we'd have construction traffic and pedestrian users, so I said I'd bring it up here. I don't see Keith on here. I called him yesterday. Um I'm assuming that's why they've locked those

2:41:11gates. Keith?

2:41:15No.

2:41:16We'll have to bring something.

2:41:17Okay, we need that. Okay. I'll work on that

2:41:19one. I brought it up.

2:41:21Ms. Yeager.

2:41:21Okay. I'll make it super quick. We attended a Angelaine Country Day School. It was a ribbon cutting and um we had a really cool experience and rode in a hot air bloom. Something in a cool. Wow. Yes, and Commissioner Oakley was a little skeptical, but he did it. I did

2:41:39go in it.

2:41:39Very proud of you. And that's all for uh.

2:41:45And I missed the balloon ride 'cause I got stuck uh fifty two a truck tipped over and blocked th three lanes of traffic, so it took me an hour and a half to go six miles.

2:41:58They only only

2:41:58let us go up fifty fifty feet anyway,

2:42:00so you're okay. And I got some pictures here from the uh Seven Springs Rotary Club, uh uh Veterans annual veterans dinner. Uh I was very lucky there's two World War veterans that were there. Uh the guy on the right his name's Fritz. Uh Fritz is ninety-nine years old. Uh February he turns a hundred and he will be uh uh great great guy. Uh His brother. Next picture. Well there's a table. Rosie River is there. That was his brother. Yeah. Uh do

2:42:31you have more pictures? There we go. Okay, there's so there they are with the plaques that they got, which give to all the all the uh veterans the first time through. And uh there's Charlie and his wife that come out to see us. And uh so the gentleman on the far right, that's Frank. He's ninety seven years old, his birthday was that day. So we had the the thrill of everyone saying happy birthday to him. It was pretty cool. And just want to give a shout out as well for the Rotary sixty nine fifty Disaster Relief Team, the district. Is that on Veterans

2:43:00Day? What's that? Was that on Veterans Day? No, it was

2:43:03uh the Wednesda Wednesday last week. Oh okay. Day after the election.

2:43:07It was a great event.

2:43:11Disaster relief team. Uh you see a picture coming up. Uh there's Chris Cassella at the steric pond that's right there, a Planning Commission member. Myself and a gentleman, uh Dan from Idaho, I believe. Uh was he just comes in to try to help with this lady had her house flooded. It sat for a while, she was kinda like not sure what to do, etc. And uh I said, You gotta get it cleaned up. So they cleaned it. Cleaned it out with Wendy with some volunteers. And then these guys showed up yesterday, did a phenomenal job, took out the drywall to a

2:43:41great extent, so now she's on her way on her way back to her house.

2:43:46Did I get for pictures? Okay, there's a picture of the whole of that. Okay. So in front of you I asked these what kind of a letter from uh the commissioners Senator Scott is up for looking for majority leader, Senate Majority Leader right now. And the group from uh Tarrant County Republican Party put a letter out rejecting uh John Corner. As a senator.

2:44:16Sa

2:44:16say that again?

2:44:17They re the Republic Tarran County Republican Party out of Texas rejected John Carnin as a possible majority leader. uh suggested Senator Scott as as w as one of the possibility uh

2:44:29so his home people didn't want him?

2:44:31His own people didn't want him. So I uh I think Is

2:44:34that where J D's from? From LACO?

2:44:36Uh yeah I think he is. I think he is. So anyway, with that said, um I then texted Senator Scott and I says, Would you like a letter of support from us? And he said he would. So I draw I just asked Sonny to kind of write up a really positive letter, no negative, just straight positive letter with the opening line saying Pasco Board of County Commissioners strongly supports the selection of Senator Rick Scott of Florida for the Senate Majority Leader. So if everybody likes this letter, we can send up, have the Chairman sign it and just put

2:45:06our shoulder.

2:45:12We could be the difference maker. So if the board's comfortable with this, I'll make a motion that we send this letter Commissioner Oakley second. Second. Sign the letter and we'll send it forward to the appropriate people.

2:45:22Second. Yeah, got a motion and second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

2:45:28And last thing, um. Thank you. Um last thing. The 49% rule, FEMA, causing audit Of grief, I'm sure you're starting to feel it now, it's gonna get stronger and stronger. Uh, people at Senate Manor have gone out where they've had two different people go out and get appraisers to come in to appraise property to see how the values come out to see if they can make it over the 49%. Uh I think it's gonna be a positive thing. Signal Cove is another area where they're gonna be in a similar situation, they may do the same. Uh, Sea

2:45:58Ranch, I think, is in better shape, Sea Pines as well. I think Westport too. But I'd like to have us be able to set up something with our staff to be able to and down to the south as well. Um I'm just talking about those direct ones in my area. Um but I think we need to put a presence out there to put people at ease because as a realtor sent me a an email today, she's worried about so many people that don't want to deal with this and don't want to just want to go work and get It's stopped down without getting a permit.

2:46:26They're gonna get caught.

2:46:27I know they're gonna get caught, and I'll let JP talk about how they're gonna get caught. It'll be helpful for the the people to hear. But I think it's important that we try to make every uh bit of information we can out there, get a presence out there with these people so they can relax. Literally at Senate Mayor, they called the meeting within twenty four hours and the whole room was full and a hundred people were on the waiting line.

2:46:48Um and I did I forgot to mention this, I apologize because it was magnificent. J P and a lot of the building department um put on we put on a meeting at Gulf Harbors Last week? Thursdays almost together. Standing room only. Um And And they did a phenomenal job in answering all the questions, giving out information. um educating them on why we have the forty nine percent rule and not like thirty percent like Pinellas

2:47:19County. And um I just wanna tell you you you guys did a great job but thank you. And I wanna thank you all for coming.

2:47:24Yeah, and I don't want to say J P is doing a phenomenal job. Yeah. I mean I I've seen him A plus with people fired up. And that means a cube combo explaining it out and letting people know, look, we're trying to work with you. We have rules we've got to follow, we'll work with you but we've gotta follow the rules.

2:47:39Yeah.

2:47:40So I mean what you're doing out there is J P that's why I get so much confidence in you. You

2:47:43get

2:47:43in front of the people and your team. They did a great job at C Ranch all that time as well, and I hear great things done in Gulf Harbor. So I get confidence in you, I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but I think these people could use your help and your guidance just to kinda like show 'em how to go through the process. And again, if and if you would highlight as well what would happen what could happen if they go through, don't get a permit deliberately and then what they're gonna they could be faced with.

2:48:08Could you please state your name for the clerk?

2:48:09Yes, uh JP Murphy and Ron Mississippi County Administrator Development Development Services. Uh so Commissioner Mariano, your your question is what happens if they don't get a permit, essentially. Um and understand that for all of the affected areas, we've done our own individual assessment. Everyone's gonna get a letter whether they're substantially damaged or not substantially damaged. We also have some information sharing that works with W with FEMA and we've got debris photos, we have a lot of we have we have a lot of data points that point us to when it

2:48:39comes time, ninety, hundred and eighty days, we start reviewing where certain properties are at in their process. And we find that we have no permits for certain properties and there was three foot of water on this side, three foot of water on that side, yet here's the structure. We're gonna assume that that structure was automatically damaged and would be going through a compliance process. There'll be a door knock and we're gonna have to go through that through a process that probably looks a lot like after-the-fact permitting, and only then it's gonna be a much bigger

2:49:09headache because fees won't be waived then. There'll be double the fee, they'll be after the fact, some of the stuff has to get t torn out, and some of those folks may find themselves on the wrong side of the 49% rule, and I'd hate to see them throw good money after bad for not getting a permit. That's one of the reasons we incentivized waiving permit fees. And yes, there's some time some some uh increased permitting times because of the inspections and the evaluations that were required, and and we're working diligently on that. We double double the size of our staff through contract

2:49:39means to be able to help these folks. But we wanna handle all those problems that could be really bad in the future now. Um so again, waiving the permit fees, come see us. Um of course we have now the four three locations countywide plus the two remote sites. We are gonna try to find a way to get some folks out into individual neighborhoods once letters start going out and then we can work with them. Unfortunately I just don't have the the size of staff to be in every neighborhood. We'd love to be able to do that, but um We're

2:50:10also looking at working with our facilities department to create just a substantial damage center where folks could could come in and get detailed analysis and work through their permitting stuff. I've heard great things about people who have gone out to the Gulf Harbor site and were able to work with our flood folks and actually fill out their application together. But in in some instances we're seeing value. Too low, property damages uh being valued too low, and there's some delay going back and forth. So absolutely getting that

2:50:41hands-on touch to get it right the first time, so we don't have a lot of back and forth is is what we're striving to do right now. As well as trying to put more folks on the phones to call folks back to get information to shrink that permitting time.

2:50:54And and I and I think like especially with the Senate manor folks, these folks are all in that meeting. Uh the vice president went and got an appraisal. Another person went and got another appraisal and they're looking at the appraisal, see how they can work out and going through it. If if it works with let's say one, then the rest of them can probably do the same type of thing and go forward. I j I just think that if if your on-site existed for them. pretty much uniform as far as condition to properties, et cetera. Um it might save you guys a lot of time by being out there and just eliminating right from the

2:51:24get go and take away some of the doubt that others may have and one explanation may take care of the whole room instead of doing that explanation.

2:51:31Yeah, and we we still plan on doing that. When the letters go out, um Kathy Pearson and I are gonna go out into the neighborhoods, uh conduct a session not only with the local leaders, the HOA, um the civic board that may be out there, um but also some of the religious leaders because we're getting a lot of feedback from those folks as well, trying to get some information. So we'll host those sessions absolutely. Understand we still have to look at every parcel. Uh you know, take a parcel by parcel. look and and my key message for the board and for anyone who's asking for help is detail, detail, detail,

2:52:02whatever details you can provide, receipts, pictures, quotes, estimates, adjustments. the f the more detail you give us actually the quicker the review time is 'cause there's less doubt in our mind that says, Okay, we have to fill in this blank that we don't ha we don't understand your pricing or your value. So detail, detail, detail is is absolutely key.

2:52:22Uh just like to say, you know, um it's been great working with you through this thing. Through these hurricanes, our I mean our whole team has been phenomenal. Um this week they're still picking up a lot of sticks. Uh Kevin Pluska, John Batista or the the whole team there's doing a great job as well. Uh and that that's all I have for my committee reports, but I do want to make one comment. If anyone listening wants to make any comments for them.

2:52:44Well, do you wanna do you wanna tell how many people are working? Uh from tidal basin. And how many permits you're doing a day, inspections you're doing a day, it's amazing.

2:52:54Yeah, so for for the title based and substantial damage evaluations we have over sixty additional inspectors going out and doing evaluations. We're doing about a thousand a day. Uh on the west side of nineteen we had o over twelve to thirteen thousand effective structures. We should be done with that work in probably the next two, three days at that rate. Um if somebody comes in and applies for a permit and they need a substantial damage evaluation, an evaluator will go out there. And in some cases we've gone out two or three times once we got some information back

2:53:24and said, okay, uh their information said this, we'll send an evaluator. Yeah, we confirm that. Um so some folks have had a couple different ones. We expect those letters for substantial damage to go out sometime this week as well. But um that's just on the The evaluation side. We've also brought in additional permit techs, plans examiners, and we've we've got a mission request in for some more flood review folks. Because that's where the the joke point is now is now that all the packages are coming in, it's taking us about ten to fifteen minutes per package. That there it is right now.

2:53:55And we only got six or seven qualified professionals to do that, so they're they're churning through those things as fast as possible.

2:54:02Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Um Let's see, I had another question for you. No, I have another question for you. How are you? Uh I'm just thinking there was a gentleman on my street who just went through remodeling. I tried to go to his house online to see if he had when his permits were pulled. But I I don't know how to do that. Do you do that on the property appraiser? 'Cause I was just curious. On the property appraiser site?

2:54:28The most accurate data is gonna be on the Acela site.

2:54:31Okay, well I I have no idea how to do that. Don't wanna do that. But are you guys correlating permits that were pulled within the last calendar year and your forty nine percent because they're gonna get caught up. And that's and that's the law. And we can't waive the law after the fact. And I'm really concerned that pe these people May not know that. So what have you done to

2:54:58Yeah you're you're you're spot on there, Commissioner. So the forty-nine percent is cumulative, whether it's substantial damage or substantial improvement. You can have a combination of both that puts you over the forty nine percent. Um that time frame runs from the issuance of a permit a year ago through the current day. Um and I won't get into the details if you've forgot to close that permit. If you forgot to close that permit just close it so we can go back to that original day. Um but that is is something that we've we've been messaging since the beginning. In fact,

2:55:28if you look at our rebuilding uh in a flood zone flyer, that's one of the asteriskes at the bottom that says if you had recent improvement, it may affect this number. Um and we're reviewing those just when we get the package. We're reviewing those individually as they come in. But unfortunately, that's correct. That that is happening. What

2:55:45if they didn't pull permit for

2:55:47Well then I don't have anything to to prove that off of unfortunately unless they somebody provides some other information.

2:55:53Well if if it's uh someone that was where there was three to six feet of water they just recently remodeled and they didn't pull permits to refix their house. You're gonna

2:56:03We'll s we'll still go through the if they didn't pull permits for the repair or do they didn't per pull permits for the original alteration? For the repair. Yeah, if we certainly for the repair we'll we'll they'll have to go through that process. Understand that because we have an evaluation of every parcel and if we have reason to believe that that property was damaged and we don't see improv you know permits for any improvements, we're gonna assume the worst case scenario and then go back out and take some enforcement action on that property.

2:56:32I actually saw um yesterday a A a house in Gulf Harbor's already knocked down. It's already demoed. It went fast. Um

2:56:40Yeah, we've got a growing list of folks who do want to demo their property so that they can prepare for elevation. Yeah.

2:56:47So um my last one, let me think what it was on. Oh, let me think. Is that on the permitting? Um Shoot, I can't remember what it was. I'll have to come back to it okay. But it was on JP, so don't go far. It was it was on this whole process.

2:57:06Are you through, Jay? I just one more comment. Yeah. Hey, it's it's a big deal.

2:57:14Okay. So I'm all set, Jackie. Thank you very much. Thank you for the same thing.

2:57:17No, but I have one more for him. I I hope it comes back to me.

2:57:19All right Jack.

2:57:23Run this campaign was long. Um and we just worked so hard, all of us, to to keep just doing what we have to go to for the citizens. But uh I want to say wherever I was I was saying this is the best board I'd work with. I'm proud of I'm happy we're out

2:57:40Yeah, thank you.

2:57:41Yeah. That's good. Is that it?

2:57:45I I had one more thing that includes Mike and the phone and stuff. I know I I forgot forgot that the county staff also wants to be in our administration and wants to be in on our farm share. So this is a this is a uh a joint effort and uh do we even have a date, you know, Joanna?

2:58:05We

2:58:05do not. We're working on it. Okay. So um I'm looking forward to it. We talked about early next year. Yeah. When I was talking and we'll we'll get our own going. Okay.

2:58:17Mr. Caval. Thank you, sir. Uh I appreciate the moment of silence there for for Matt Sizemore. He's a labor supervisor three in our public works department. Uh on the concrete crew. He was here for twenty two years. Uh um uh sadly missed uh A dedicated um you know family member and and leader on our team. So he will be missed, but thank you for the moment of silence. Um I have some good news um that uh we received a grant, uh so our efforts are paying off a five point three million dollars of USCDC

2:58:47for um um unsignalized crosswalks, so safety improvements for unsignalized crosswalks in the county. Wow. So yes. So we great job. Thank you. How

2:58:56many of those do we have?

2:58:57Uh we need more, but we're well, I'm sure we have a lot.

2:58:59How many is that gonna fund?

2:59:01It's gonna cost a lot of

2:59:02it.

2:59:04Well how m how many is that gonna fund? Let me put it that way. Sure. And what's the prioritization?

2:59:13Happening one more time. County engineer Nick, you're in. Um around eighty-five is what we asked for and and that's what we received funding for. So w we have a number in in Pasco County. We were looking at higher speed roadways and trying to provide visibility for pedestrians at crossing locations. So we're excited to see this come to fruition. So

2:59:31while you're up there, um I understand that the road paving list has been published. I have not seen it. Um and along with that then comes the stormwater improvements on those roads. I can

2:59:41tell you where one of the roads that wouldn't be next.

2:59:43Huh?

2:59:44That would be both works.

2:59:46Yeah, well the rope's an

2:59:48engineer.

2:59:48Yeah, I guess I guess not. I'd like to know where to find it.

2:59:52I'm throwing you a lifeline.

2:59:54Skipping away.

2:59:56Well I'm sh I'm s I'm sure Brantford can produce that for us. I'll I'll have to take a look at that.

3:00:01Can it be emailed to

3:00:02me?

3:00:02Yes. I've I'm getting complaints from from Sunrays. From everybody.

3:00:10take uh County Road forty one is looking real good 'cause it's being paved right now, so

3:00:16They're almost getting almost finished, were they? Uh the last thing I have is we did have a request for mosquito control to allow Department of Agriculture to come in and do spraying in uh the San Antonio area for adult mosquitoes. Again, uh I think this is um this is a great way to take advantage of state resources to help us combat potential vector control and things like that. So if I could just get a motion to have the chairs.

3:00:41I'm just Okay. Well I've got a motion. I need a second. Second. And a second to uh send the letter back out or do the mosquito. I've already given it I've just given you the orders. Expand it. Well they have been a little bit more than that. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Pass five o'clock. So you got the letter right there at your hand.

3:01:02We got a question over there.

3:01:04Can we please state exactly what the motion was? Because everybody was talking on top of everything. Sure. I I believe the motion was to authorize the chair to sign a letter to the Department of Agriculture requesting um adult s adulticide treatment in the East San Antonio area for mosquitoes.

3:01:27They're doing the work?

3:01:29The spring.

3:01:30State's letter you signed. Pasco.

3:01:37So

3:01:37I don't don't know why they need permission. That's the same layer as I before. I have two letters I gave 'em. Okay. One of 'em was what Jack was asked for for Rick Scott and then I had one for Mosquito. I think that's the same letter I had before.

3:01:56We added just a little bit of language to the to the the first letter to create this one.

3:02:02Okay.

3:02:03You think I've just the description of the letter

3:02:10Are they still spraying out in Moon Lake?

3:02:12So here's my here's my the one that I just reviewed that the chair signed said Please accept this letter of support for operation of low flying aircraft and application of mosquito pesticide application. That's fair. Response activity over Pasco County. It does not limit it to San Antonio. That's that's why I'm questioning the description.

3:02:39Even better. So is that for all I mean is that the right letter? So that's the letter I had one

3:02:45time before. I think I think this letter would probably serve as a generic letter. The the request from the operations director at Mosquito Control um was specifically out in the east area and FDAX, which is Department of Agriculture, is requesting treatment request. So as uh County Attorney uh aptly points out, it's to support operation of low-flying aircraft. to apply the adulticide. County wide in this particular case according to this letter which would include San Antonio East. So I think this is kind of a kind of covers for

3:03:16future requests.

3:03:17Which I think so that's what the more well that's what the Chair was just authorized to say.

3:03:21Yes, that's what I was just authorized to say.

3:03:30Oh, I don't know. Who made the motion? Who seconded it for that discussion? Uh me. I think Commissioner Starkey seconded it. I didn't catch who s who made it. Did you make the foot motion?

3:03:43Uh for

3:03:44the record I'll make

3:03:44the second. I'll make the motion.

3:03:47Okay. Thank you. There we go. Starkey made the motion, Weightman seconded, and then we all I vocal. Yeah, we all voted aye and it passed 5-0. Okay? Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's all. As clear as it needs.

3:04:03Ms. Following up on uh Mr. Murphy's conversation and with Commissioner Mariano, I just one because we haven't really talked about this, which is important in my opinion. Um I went through not a not a storm event, but I went through an enforcement action while I was with Manatee County where FEMA came in and said that a Very

3:04:35high-end waterfront community in the county, um gated community. Um had enclosed their lower levels. They were they were built up and they enclosed their lower lower levels. Um the county was threatened to lose its flood insurance. It was uh put on probation. Um they did they it was not a fun time.

3:05:06Um so the other end of this coin is If we don't take the step and they held the county accountable for unpermitted work, it wasn't like like

3:05:21the building department had permitted all this stuff underneath. So I realize FEMA changes over the years, they may get kinder and gentler. I doubt it. Um but What your building department, what the assistant county administrator is saying that they have to do. on the legal side of this they have to do because we'll we'll end up in

3:05:51a fight with FEMA trying to protect the rest of the residents of Pasco County um to maintain the flood insurance. And it mm- So I thought that was important. That's all I have.

3:06:03Yeah, we

3:06:03can't mess

3:06:04around with that. Tarpet Springs also.

3:06:07We have nothing.

3:06:08Okay, sounds good. Um I did have a couple of things. I was happy to go out to uh Pasco Hope, as you see here. Oh got the visit there and see those those homes being put in and all. I did get a few calls on this project that uh people didn't want homeless coming in these homes but in fact homeless whether you lost your home

3:06:38to the flooding or lost your home some other way is still homeless. So um but I think they forget the fact of people coming into these places uh really are coming in there to get help and we're gonna give them that help and give them a step up and into their lives where they'll move on out of these out of these homes. like this. So one way or the other I think it's a good good project and good for the the county. The other thing was uh

3:07:09we went we had a um The police, the city uh down here had this uh decorating of these uh jack-lanterns, I guess, so all these pumpkins and all the chief of police was very upset. He actually didn't receive much recognition for their painted uh Pumpkin but you know, they were part of it, whether whether they got a vote or

3:07:39not, they didn't. So But it was all good, all for fun, so good good things happened in the community around here. And then uh the other thing was we were at Angel Angeline and I actually spoke there and I got to speak um Besides riding this air balloon, which I really didn't really want to go on that thing, but uh

3:08:06That that made me nervous. I don't know how you get you don't really guide you don't guide these things. They get up and they let 'em go, well they had 'em tied by three ropes, but it didn't go anywhere. But yeah, it was but I did meet a resident while I was there and and she s enjoys Angeline. Angeline she said every property or every house looks out on the preserve. Which I thought was and that's I think it's fifty five hundred acres if I'm not mistaken, but that's pretty

3:08:36remarkable for Everhome to be looking out on a preserve. So that's a pretty nice community when you think of it in those terms. So But it's good for the school coming there and the kids that'll educate in the future for the sit you know, to be cit good citizens here in Pasco. I think it's all great stuff when they brought around for the new school they're gonna have there. So Um only other thing I have is uh I did get to speak to um The Doctors

3:09:06of Business Administration at St. Leo University uh Friday a week ago. And um It was pretty interesting when I first went in. It was kind of strange and I don't y somebody here might know the movie or whatever, but when I first went in and everybody I met was doctor doctor doctor. Just kidding I remember a movie somewhere that this guy only did he met all these doctors, so It was pretty amazing but uh they had gotten their

3:09:36business doctor of business administration at St. Leo University and uh they had asked me to go speak. I'm not a doctor, so but uh it was very enjoyable being there and and seeing how they enjoyed, you know, working for their degrees and and the efforts and all that. Some of 'em didn't didn't make it right away but they kept trying. Might might have took them instead of two or three or three years it took 'em five or six. Uh but the fact

3:10:07of they still finished and they got to be called a doctor at the end of it, so uh very interesting. So but with that um The only thing I c I can think of that that moves anything better is the fact that our country is, I think, headed in the right direction and which means also our county's heading the right direction also. We got a lot of things we need to be concerned about and and try to do. to help our citizens and uh I think we'll all be aware of

3:10:37what we need to do at the right time to to do it in the future. So with the Mike, you and your team and guides for all our staff and all that help us out, we'll do our jobs to uh help. helping leading that and giving y'all the support you need to get you know make the right decisions for our citizens. So I think we'll all be uh much better off for all of it in the future. So with that, uh we adjourned.