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PC7 Central Pasco Employment Village comprehensive plan text amendment

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Unidentified speakerVoice A

Okay. All right. So I'll I'll skip those and go to PC seven. Uh PC seven is a comprehensive plan amendment, CPL 2214, Central Pasco Employment Village. It's a proposed comprehensive plan text amendment to the Central Pasco Employment Village Sub-area Policy, Policy 7112. Um This comes with a recommendation of approval from the Planning and Development Department. Um I I am requesting that the attachment of

the sub-area policy uh be revi pulled and revised from this item. and distributed to the Planning Commission. To discuss briefly the changes to provision A3 of the sub-area policy?

Charles Grey

Okay.

Here we

Unidentified speakerVoice A

have copies.

Clerk

So have you received a file?

Charles Grey

Who has them?

Jaimie Girardi

Uh

Charles Grey

the clerk. Oh she has them already.

Jaimie Girardi

We need can you you're gonna distribute them? Oh okay, okay.

Charles Grey

Okay. She's not gonna let us have them.

Do we have a motion to receive and file?

Jon Moody

So moved.

Charles Grey

Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

And so as the copies make their way across the dice, um the main purpose of the sub-area policy adjustment here is to remove the cap on the employment generating industrial entitlement within the Central Pasco employment village. And so we're looking specifically at provision A three to accomplish this. It's on the first page of this uh of the handout that's been given to you. And you'll notice that the minimum maximum language in uh

provision A three has been uh removed so that it reads Um the following levels of development within the Central Pasco employment village sub area are approved as the authorized intensities and densities. And the sentence goes on. And then there's uh subsequent changes to the table in the handout that you have, it's removing the language that was initially proposed for minimum required to read no maximum limit. Uh however,

uh subsequent conversation um with the county attorney's office. We're going to further revise that to read to delete any reference to 3.7 million square feet and instead say a maximum of 3.0 FAR per the Employment Center of Future Land Use, no maximum square footage. And that will be for the corporate business park targeted primary business and light industrial uses. Okay, so

those are the only changes. And then the only other uh adjustment would then be under support commercial office where it says 950,000 square feet, we would add the notation uh maximum. And then in parentheses, see exception in provision A eleven, which is Uh outlining Uh how to uh enable additional commercial entitlement. Without taking up

additional acreage using the incentive for fur vertically integrated mixed use buildings. In residential areas. That's it, Terry. That that'd be that'd be the extent of the revisions.

Jaimie Girardi

Okay. All right. Mr. Chair, I realize this is on consent, but Since Terry's making a couple of things. Changes at the diasp we probably should just open it up for public comment in case anybody wants to

Charles Grey

All right. Is there anybody here that would like to comment on this for work on? Yes.

You'd state your name and address please, Joel? Yeah.

Joel

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My name is Joel. Two to an associates. I represent some of the stakeholders at CPEB. Um, I had I'm not here to object. Uh I had received the version yesterday from Terry, which I was okay with. So I just need to be sure I understand the markup that he and Mr. Goldstein are doing now. You're not inserting any minimum on the employment center items, right? You're just dealing with the max and you're using

the FAR as the max, not a square footage, is that my understanding? And you are inserting maximum under the support commercial office, just as we have the maximum under residential.

Jaimie Girardi

But with the exception, there's an exception for vertically integrated mixed.

Joel

Right in A eleven. So

Jaimie Girardi

that's

Joel

that remains.

Jaimie Girardi

Yes.

Joel

Okay. Then I I

Jaimie Girardi

the the main reason I raise the concern with Terry is I don't think I'm not sure if you're uh there's some case law suggesting you can't have an unlimited amount of something. So you need to at least have an FAR, which that's why I suggested that

Anybody in CPV is planning on exceeding the three point oh FAR?

Joel

I don't know if anyone in the county is gonna get there. We'd like to, but that's a lot.

Jaimie Girardi

So Yes, well we would like but to be unlimited, I don't think that would pass legal muster, so but the FAR will. So I think that's a good thing. That works.

Joel

Okay, and this will have no obviously I we we process through this board And did the prior MPUD approval. So the existing MPUDs, there's no question about them being deemed compliant. I don't want to now be in a non-compliant situation with the SWOP MPUD that we just spent a lot of time on. Getting approved.

Jaimie Girardi

I can't think of anything this would be And these changes that would make the SWAP M P D non compliant.

Joel

These

Jaimie Girardi

aren't these aren't reducing any correct square footages. They're only Increasing square footages. So I don't know how that could make anybody in compliance.

Joel

Well that was my conclusion too, but in an abundance of caution I thought it would be good if we said that.

Jaimie Girardi

Cap. in increasing the retail cap with if you meet certain criteria. But it doesn't It's not reducing the residential.

Joel

And we're not changing the phasing schedule at the end. Correct. The residential phasing versus which was the question.

Jaimie Girardi

I don't think you are right, Terry.

Joel

No chains there, right, Teering?

Jaimie Girardi

I don't think

Unidentified speakerVoice A

so. Uh let me do.

Jaimie Girardi

Well he did put no I mean, so the

Unidentified speakerVoice A

other changes under the E C site infrastructure to support building square feet. Instead of instead of listing up four point six five Four four point six five million square feet, which just says no maximum.

Joel

Right. And the only suggestion there to be consistent with David's concern is David, maybe in that last chart you also put Mm uh F A R three point O maximum. maximum.

Jaimie Girardi

That would make sense.

Joel

Yeah, to avoid that issue.

Jaimie Girardi

Just that Terry? Yeah.

Joel

The same way you did the first one, so you don't run into his legal concern about the caps. 'Cause we all know there's no objection to the industrial. Obviously the board wants as much of that as we can provide. Okay. Thank you. Sorry to just want to make sure we get it right since we're doing it on the fly. No unintended consequences.

Jon Moody

Were you noticed that this was happening?

Joel

Uh Terry let me know a few days ago and I saw the early version. I was not otherwise aware because see this was staff initiated. Um which was a little concerning, but fortunately Terry caught that. and did let those of us know who are doing these MPDs out there. And uh

Jon Moody

Well I know that not everybody was notified and so I have some concern over that. I actually am in favor of what's being proposed here, but I'm concerned that not all of the affected property owners were notified that this was happening.

Joel

And see that's one problem is there are 20 some odd stakeholders out there, and I only represent presently two of those. So I know that I know that Ms. Bidell, who represents Mr. Southworth, they they were noticed, but I'm not aware of anyone else.

Jaimie Girardi

I can tell you that it's not a good thing. pretty well known by word of mouth. among those property owners that the county was planning to increase the cap on the light industrial office employment.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Yeah.

So they knew that we were were studying the issue and preparing to make the changes that had been brought forward today. Uh the reason why I contacted um Mr. Two and Ms. Bidel is because um those two projects, the SWOP MPUD and the Eagle Two MPUD, were sort of interrelated with one another in terms of some of the exchanges, land use exchanges that were taking place per the sub-area policy rules. And also they were active MPUDs. Currently.

Charles Grey

Okay, so this will remain on can on consent.

School District Representative

Can I ask a quick question?

Mr. Chairman Mariano. Just a quick question. Terry, have you refreshed my memory about floor area ratio?

F A R is that what that is, right?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Yeah.

School District Representative

Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

The floor area ratio basically measures uh the amount of square footage that you can build on your property based on the overall square footage of your site. So it's a it's a ratio.

School District Representative

Okay. So

Unidentified speakerVoice A

a one point oh if you had a hundred square feet, a one point oh gives you a hundred square feet for a hundred square feet. And if you had point five you can only do point five of the hundred square feet, so fifty square feet.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Is it based on gross area or net area?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I believe that's probably defined in the land development code. Okay. So I don't wanna miss state that and I don't have the code in front of me.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Very good.

Jaimie Girardi

Any other questions?

I don't think we have any projects in the county that have exceeded a three point oh FAR, if we did it would be rare.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Do you know of any dreaming?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

No, I don't know.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

And the three point zero is is a reference out of the E C future land use. That's what the E C establishes. So

Charles Grey

Okay.

All right. Hello. Mm. That this is gonna remain remain on. Consent. Even though we didn't discuss it. So Don't see any objections.

Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Is it what's next? Okay. That'd be the end of the consent agenda. Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

I'll make an I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda with the discussed revisions to PC seven.

Jaimie Girardi

Second. And to be clear, we're talking about PC four and PC seven, correct?

Asin Khalil

That's

Jaimie Girardi

correct. Okay.

Charles Grey

All right. So we have a motion in a couple of seconds. Double seconds.

Okay, all in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. Aye. Like signed for the opposed. Motion carries.

Yeah.