Public comment on spray jet paver Brooksville Ridge barricades
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I think I just heard Gary's with us. Okay. So we have a quorum. Um now's the time for public comment. Citizens are given an opportunity to comment on uh any current or future agenda item coming before the board uh on on other business or the board's purview. Today's public comment will be handled as as
follows. First, we will take comment from people that are in person here today. Then we will take public comment from those who are pre-registered for a WebEx link and currently on queue. We request that those that address the board, their comments are not directed personally toward any commissioner or team member, but rather direct to the issues. This provides mutual respect between
board members and the public. After starting your uh stating your name and address for the clerk, three-minute timer will be started. After two minutes, a single beep will indicate you have one minute left. When you time is up, two beats will Will sound and you should finish your comments. Um WebEx participants will be disconnected. Mm-hmm. Automat automatically after
they finish their comment or that their three minutes is up. Madam Clerk, do we have anyone signed up for public comment?
Uh yes sir. We have two for in person. Um so Randy Shane is the first one, followed by Nan Nancy Hazelwood. So Mr. Shane?
State your name and address for the clerk.
Good morning. My name's Randy Shane. I'm at [address removed]. Good morning, Commissioner, Chairman, and other commissioners. This is kind of a follow-up from my email on 215 about the spray jet paver data that we collected from Bruce B. Downs. I don't know. Can I move to receive and file? Second.
What's that? Motion and a second. All those all those uh
In favor?
In favor
call.
I say aye, but it's roll call.
All right, District Two, Commissioner Weightman. District three, Commissioner Starkey. Aye. District four, Commissioner Bradford. Aye.
District five, Commissioner Mariano. Aye. District one, Chairman Oakley.
Aye. Motion passed.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's just my follow-up email. Um the the data that we collected from Bruce B. Downs for the spray jet paper is uh outstanding. Um each of you have a copy of it. Uh it's basically uh the spray jet paver versus traditional paving. Um And the bond strength is just uh Almost double. Um using an analogy.
I don't know about the how many people remember the old bag phones, the the old bag uh cell phones Um I'm sure we all used them back in the day. Oh. But that's kind of like the the old bag phone is like those conventional paper and the new iPhone 15 is like the spray jet paper. That's what we're talking about the difference here. And um Um, just I don't I don't wanna use all my time, but um Out here on Meridian
Avenue, um, we do work for Dade City as well. And we um I got with them about six months or eight months ago and meridian heading eastbound from the courthouse just past City Hall, I asked them if that was their road. It's got a bunch of slippage on it. And on your way out today, drive down that road. That's what conventional paving does. I don't know when that was done, but they told me that was a county road. uh meridian. Uh so and I'm
just going by what they said. I don't know for a fact that it's a county road, but uh that'll give you an idea of that slippage that you get from conventional peaking. When you
when you say slippers, what does that mean?
What's that?
Slippage. I don't know what you mean. I know what it is to slip.
It's where the um It's basically when you mill an overlay or if you just overlay And you uh you do you don't get that bond. Uh that's what we're talking about. This report, the the uh the bond to the old pavement is almost double with the spray jet paver versus conventional paving. But if you look down through there, you'll see it uh it's it's almost like uh it's not rippled, but the asphalt, the old asphalt is just sliding. Sliding
on top of the old asphalt.
The new asphalt sliding on top of the old asphalt.
Yeah, the new asphalt sliding on top of the new asphalt. Yeah, I'm gonna
look at it.
I mean the old. So you can see the spots down through there. I took some pictures, but uh I don't have those, you know, they're on my iPhone, but you can you can see it plain as day on that eastbound lane. And that's that's the difference. Uh that's the biggest difference uh between the um spray jet paver and conventional paper. That's why we're really pushing this uh spray jet paper with the county and not just the county but the state. Um we're looking at
doing um Little road. That's the next road we have. We'd love to use spray jet paper there. And the state is gonna be coming out to that as well. We've got their attention with this report as well. So there's any other questions?
No, there's no questions. This is public comment. Okay.
Okay.
All right. All
right.
Thanks. Thank you.
All right, Miss Hazelwood.
Name and address.
Really? You gotta tell me? Nancy Kazwood, [address removed]. Um I'm here to badger you all about the Brooksville Ridge again. Um I went by Ramsey Road in St. Joe and the whole place is just down 25 feet. And then you look across to St. Joe Road, so you've got on both sides of St. Joe Road and you've got another one being taken down. I thought they were only going to stay in
one section, but they've carried that all the way to, I don't know, that road that with Likuji Electrics on. So you've got two there. I am concerned about it happening all over the northeaster area. It's called The Brooksville Ridge, it is a high recharge water area. Y'all are starting to have water problems. You need all your water. Taking down these hills and then plastering them with asphalt streets and rooftops
are not is not gonna help the situation at all. So I am hoping you will enact some type of changes so that those hills are protected and no longer allowed to be taken down in that area. They are rare in Florida also. So if y'all would please hear my plea. Thank y'all.
Thank you.
Anyone does anyone in the audience wish to speak in public comment this morning that did not sign up? So you know um we have anybody on WebEx?
Yes sir we do. The first individual signed up on WebEx is Ms. Angel Cook. Miss Cook, are you there? Well.
Ms. Cook, are you there? If you are, you are muted and we're okay. Name and address for the record and then you have three minutes.
Thank you. Good morning, Commissioner. My name is Angel Cook, [address removed]. I'm here on behalf of the Rotary Club of Holiday. I am a past president of the Rotary Club of Holiday and for five years have served as the chairperson for both the Holiday Street Parade and the Chasco Fiesta Street Parade. Both parades attract thousands of spectators and follow the same route, which is just under three miles. The greatest challenge that we face with both parades
is maintaining public safety. To safely cover the parade route requires twenty four hundred barricades. A few years ago, Pasco County dispersed to the three municipalities the barricades that they had stored and managed. Those barricades are shared throughout the county for various large events. Over time a portion of the barricades have been discarded due to damage. Currently, Newport Ritchie has nine hundred and fifty. Dade City has 189 and Zephyrhills has 222 barricades. For
both parades we borrow from Dade City and Zephyrhills, leaving us still short over a thousand barricades, requiring us to call other cities to borrow theirs. In the past, we have borrowed Dunedin and the city of Tampa. When we borrow barricades from those cities, our Rotary Club must solicit volunteers who are willing to use their personal or business vehicles and trailers, along with giving up a couple of days work to get them. Those volunteers drive to those cities to get the barricades and physically load them and transport
them to Newport Ritchie. Then after the parade, volunteers must trans transport them back to the city we borrowed them from and unload them. The liability alone with the chance of an auto accident during transport or a volunteer being injured while lifting that many barricades is reason enough for me to ask for help in getting barricades that we need to Newport Ritchie. Once we add in almost three miles of parade route where spectators are lining the streets for the floats the risk is extremely high of an injury
occurring. We need these additional 1400 barricades to keep the gas from approaching the floats and prevent the risk of someone getting hit because the float operator is not able to see them. Residents from not only Pasco County, but the surrounding counties come to these parades. It is our duty to make them as safe as h as possible. I would like the Board of County Commissioners' help in securing the purchase of these much needed barricades to continue this forty-five-year tradition of these community parades. I appreciate your time and consideration
on behalf of the Rotary Club of Holiday.
Thank you.
All right. The next individual signed up is Nicholas Manns.
Mr. Manns, are you there?
Mr. Manns, if you are there, you are muted. Okay. Okay. I can hear you now. So name and address for the record and then you have three minutes.
Got it. So my name is uh Nicholas Mann. My address is [address removed]. Yeah. So good morning, Commissioners. Um my name is like I said Nicholas Manns. I'm also here representing the Rubber Republic Holiday and as Angel stated, he is the the past past president of the club, but I'm the current president of the Rotary Club. And uh just to piggyback on her comments uh just
a little bit, the public safety issue is first and foremost our our top concern, both for our club as well as the city of Newport Ritchie. But the the Roger Cultural Holiday, the Fasco Steering Committee They face this every time we put on both of these parades. And just to provide a little background, in the mid-2000s, the county used tourism dollars to buy barricades. Um however year after year the crowds keep getting bigger and the parades
keep getting more popular. So as those brands grow bigger and the crowd grows bigger, so does the need for the barricade. And as Angel said, as volunteers we try to get them from the various cities, but the overwhelming amount of time and manpower is is an absolute cost and the availability is inconsistent. So I mean the bottom line is today's parades are unsafe. So we're asking the county commissioners to fund the purchase of barricades to protect the citizens. and our
ability to continue the foret tradition that the city of New Port Richey and the Pasco County residents have been across.
So that's
the wrong.
Yeah. Oh.
Are you finished?
Yeah, sir.