PC7 Clyde Keys Aaron Cutoff zoning change for concrete plant

1:13:03Why the hell? So the next item would be PC7 PDD 24-7747 enclay J keys erin cutoff. Um I I don't know if we just have a question or if you want a full presentation.

1:13:17Well I have more questions on it. I don't think we need a presentation 'cause I'm generally not opposed to the I just had a couple of questions. I'm not sure if it's more for for Joel or or Whoever, but uh yeah, I travel that yeah man, I just came through that intersection today on the way up here. So um my questions are really related to traffic concerns, access, um utilities up in that area, obviously where it is, I'm assuming there's capacity for for that sort of use up there. And then the

1:13:48final one is wetlands, wetlands related uh issues on that site. So I don't think we need a presentation. If we can just go talk to you,

1:13:55I'll take a stab at those. Joel II, land use consultant, Palm Harbor, Florida. I represent the property owner who's Mr. Jimmy Keys and also his contract purchaser who is Troy Mashmeyer at Mashmire Concrete of Florida. Um The entire property already is IH heavy industrial land use and I2 heavy industrial zone. So what we're actually doing uh by working with staff is we're actually restricting

1:14:25the the existing heavy industrial zoning to just the back half, roughly, of the property. changing both frontages to light industrial, so it's actually a downzoning of intensity from the existing heavy industrial to slightly over half. The specific questions are or answers are that on the traffic, because this is an industrial use which is favored by the county as job creation, it is exempt from the timing and phasing analysis, but it

1:14:55does have to go through standard site access review, which will happen at the time at site plan and construction plans. The client already, the real decision on access is controlled by F DOT. Right. Because of State Route 52, they've already had their application meetings with DOT, have already been given by DOT the lineal distance from the intersection, both on 52 and Aaron Cutoff. They're pushing those access points as you would expect. The one on 52 as far west as

1:15:25proper as proper. possible and the one on air and cut off roughly as far south as possible to maximize the setback from the intersection. DOT has indicated that they're okay with the access at the points they've given them.

1:15:39Is that what's represented on the the master?

1:15:41Yeah it's what is represented on the uh

1:15:48They also have already gone to Flip Mud Swift Mud uh for the wetland impact and the mitigation that's already approved by Swift MUD.

1:15:56Okay.

1:15:56So they literally are waiting for the zoning change so they can immediately go to site plan and construction plans and permitting to get this concrete plant uh going in the Back. The current plan is to leave all of the frontage land as is, as as buffer, until they get a light industrial user for the front part. And who knows that could be Office Flex, that could be technology. So they really don't want

1:16:26to design the 250-foot frontage on both pieces until they have that user. Hopefully that'll will end up more of an industrial office park look on the front, which of course will give you a great 250 foot buffer with building buffer from the the heavier use. And obviously a better result than having literally heavy industrial all the way all the way up to the road frontage, uh which could happen now. So in a nutshell that's it, yeah, they they pretty much have engineered this. They got the the wetland permit.

1:16:57The F D OT approval. Do you know? Everything set.

1:17:00How much of the wetland is going to be impacted?

1:17:02I don't know. I don't have that. The civil engineer was handling that separately. I'm not sure where they came out on what part of that will be impacted, but it was reviewed and approved. My understanding is already permitted by SWOPNA. Including whatever the mitigation requirements are.

1:17:22How about so presumably there's gonna be D cell somewhere on the Oh I spent

1:17:27you know,

1:17:27I mean that traffic drives they're like driving like about out of hell through

1:17:31the

1:17:31right-of-way.

1:17:31And as you know, see DOT already has construction plans uh w well along the way for that stretcher 52. So everything that they do, that's why they went to DOT first. They're going to be told by DOT exactly how to construct that access in the D cell. Uh the addition right-of-way for 52 is all coming on the north side at that location. That's but we also we voluntarily agreed because staff ask even though there'll be sidewalks to nowhere. Uh

1:18:01we've agreed to build the sidewalks on 52 and on air and cutoff, although we all know they're probably not really going anywhere productive.

1:18:11Well I bet you I know where to get the concrete.

1:18:14And and for what it's right, for what it's worth, as the memo mentions, this was one of the designated preferred uh industrial preservation sites that TBRPC identified. And the board actually asked at a June board meeting that I was sitting at, they said we really need another concrete plant in the fifty-two I seventy five quarter for all of these projects that they've approved. So it's in a great location to minimize distance for a fifty two. We have Central Pasco Employment Village, Pasco Town

1:18:44Center. Wildcat Grove, you you name it, Moffitt. Um so it's it's a great location. Of course we have the existing CMAX plant is already adjacent, which Mr. Keys originally developed and operated, but he sold that to CMAX.

1:19:00No, that's why I said initially that I'm not opposed to it. I just you know wanna kinda go through the question. So I think it's a great project for the area.

1:19:07But they did go engineer this before they started because in order to commit to this two hundred and fifty light industrial frontage they had to make certain that they could get the footprint of the batch plant on just that back corner acreage. uh and and be able to handle that depth because we also as you see we agreed to additional buffers on the front even though it's light industrial additional buffers beyond what the LDC requires just to try to keep that fifty two quarter looking the way

1:19:37we all would like to see it look when it's developed.

1:19:40Just out of curiosity, is any discussion with DOT about light requirement at coming at that intersection that you're aware of?

1:19:47Yeah, they gave you the usual answer that they'll they'll let you know when they think that's warranted. But my understanding as I recall from having also done Central Pasco Employment Village and Palmodo Ridge, I think on the county's long range plan it actually contemplates a realignment Um Aaron Cutoff actually becoming Collier Parkway coming north and it actually is going to cut off and go up through Palmetto Ridge and so that it then ties back to the interstate,

1:20:18in which event this particular section of Aaron Cutoff would no longer be that main thoroughfare. It would become more, which would be a great result for us. You know, if we were more isolated on just kind of a local connection. So I think DOT's position is it it depends on ultimately what's done with that Caw Your Parkway extension that really would replace current air and cutoff.

1:20:41Yeah.

1:20:42Somewhere there around the uh the uh sporting place range that it would veer east and then cross fifty two and go right through the center of Commetto Ridge and then curve and go due east I seventy five.

1:20:55Yeah that traffic movement is is dangerous there. Kind of comment from Aaron, particularly for

1:21:00So that that whole intersection may change in terms of volume. I think that's the plan. And that's what the county's long range transportation map shows, I believe. All right, thank you. Thank

1:21:14you, Jill. Are any other questions?

1:21:19If not there a motion.

1:21:21I'll gladly make a motion to approve.

1:21:24And a second.

1:21:25Cycle.

1:21:26Okay. All in favor signify by saying aye. Pose like signed. Motion carries.

1:21:32Very good.

1:21:35Very good.

1:21:37All right.