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Resolution 11-300 campaign signage and reports

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Unidentified speakerVoice A

Um I have one. Then I'm gonna raise the I'm just gonna do it. Um so you have resolution eleven dash three hundred, which is how you allow your property to be used for campaigning. Um one of the issues that we had over the primaries was Um several candidates ha new technology that had not been really brought to anybody's attention, I don't think The

pop these pop-up tents.

The people who are waving signs and and being at the polling locations. But having the ad of their campaign on it. And so facilities, um

under the resolution deemed them to be signage that was exceeding the amount of signage that you're allowed to have. You have limit you had you had limited signs to be smaller than the eight by four signs that People were using pulse hole diggers and putting in the parking lot back when we adopted this in eleven in 2011. So the question for the board is Since that was that hasn't really been used in the past, do does the

board want to revise the resolution to allow for that? Or do you want to just leave it the way it is?

Christina Fitzpatrick

I think since it's not listed in the resolution, if your car is advertised and a car is a car, vehicle is a vehicle, if you have a tent, a tent is a tent, its primary sole purpose is a tent. In resolution eleven three hundred, it is not listed anywhere in there in about a tent. A tent's primary purchase purpose is to shade your people that are there.

Yeah.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

With all due respect to the Commissioner, if that's what the Board wishes to do, then I would request that you amend the resolution to say that.

Mike Moore

I d never really thought about it.

Christina Fitzpatrick

I think a tense is a tense, whether it's the same.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

Well the the issue with the tent, the issue is if you put advertising on the tent to get around the limitations that we've set for the science. You know, hey, I think I was the first one to do it. So I um when uh we were Um There was a time uh where we you could get a big sign and put it uh i in the ground, you know, and it was like two signs the size of two snipe signs and I did that um in

one of my elections and then um And so a lot of people started doing bigger signs around, you know, around their polling sites. And so the board Went to uh They limited the size of those signs and

Yeah. So you know that's an interesting question because we have the cars and we have the tents. So

I don't know if

Unidentified speakerVoice A

we want to decide that now, but I've never we've never taken a position that that vehicles that are wrapped or vehicles that have signage on them.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

Well then how is that

Unidentified speakerVoice A

any

Kathryn StarkeyChair

different? Then it's

Unidentified speakerVoice A

because it is a it is capable of moving and it's in a parking space and

The difference is that they're actually attaching They're attaching these canopies to the ground. Potentially they are blocking visibility triangles. You know, the next one is a little bit more than that.

Christina Fitzpatrick

There are tents already but they don't have signage on them. So what is the difference if the tent has sign or s signage or no signage? So really it's not whether you can have a tent or not unless you wanted to say you can't have a tent at all, but in the Florida heat, we don't want anyone to get cancer.

Eric Breitenbach

Madam Clerk Maker, Eric Brightonbach, Assistant County Administrator. The current resolution does address vehicles. It But it requires the candidate to be on the premises as long with if a vehicle is there that is wrapped.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

Oh interesting. I've never

Eric Breitenbach

for clarification.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

I've never wrapped in.

Christina Fitzpatrick

But I do have eleven three hundred. Todd, were you able to send it in? Do you have it? You can pull it up and the commissioners, everyone can see the resolution.

Mike Moore

Where did Madam Chair just uh did this came up, Mr. Steinter, like what, through the Supervisor Elections Office or something?

Christina Fitzpatrick

It's not Supervisor Elections.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

It came up because both District 4 candidates had tents at various locations. Oh, okay.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

With advertising on them?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Yeah.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

Okay. Uh Well

Unidentified speakerVoice A

your opponent your opponents was here in this parking lot and yours was in the right-of-way. I

Kathryn StarkeyChair

I'm inclined to

Unidentified speakerVoice A

say no advertising

Kathryn StarkeyChair

on the tents, personally.

Christina Fitzpatrick

Tents are expensive and if we have to if people have to buy a tent they should be able to have whatever they want on the table.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

That's my only personal opinion. I'm I'm inclined to stick with what we have with the yard signs. Well it wasn't

Christina Fitzpatrick

an issue of the amount of ten.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

Um the what Commissioner Oakley?

Ron Oakley

I thought it was uh always just two guard signs, all you could have up within a certain distance of the polling area. Yeah,

Kathryn StarkeyChair

it is the tent. And that's all

Ron Oakley

you'd have. So I don't see why you'd have a tent with with another ad. Another ad or whatever. So we need to just stick to the signs. Mr. Moore?

Mike Moore

Yeah. I mean I'm indecisive. I mean I I don't know. I'm kinda like it careless either way to be honest with you. I mean I'm just being honest. I wouldn't never I've never thought about it before. I know. It's kinda clever.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

They

Christina Fitzpatrick

said

Kathryn StarkeyChair

I wasn't.

Christina Fitzpatrick

They said it wasn't the amount of the signage on the tent, it was the fact that the tent was higher than three feet.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

Was what?

Christina Fitzpatrick

Okay,

Kathryn StarkeyChair

Okay, so

Christina Fitzpatrick

if I guess if tent was on the ground and my tent wasn't higher than three feet, it wouldn't have been an issue.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

All right, so Commissioner Oriano?

Jack MarianoVice Chair

I'm comfortable with what we put in years ago. If people just follow to that uh

Kathryn StarkeyChair

Yeah. Okay. So I think that's three listeners who don't want to add any more advertising ability at a campaign site.

Christina Fitzpatrick

Can you a pull up the resolution? I'm

Kathryn StarkeyChair

fine with that. I mean I just have to really I never thought of that before.

Mike Moore

I never thought of that. Okay.

Christina Fitzpatrick

It's not even addressed. In the resolution though? Yeah. We just we just addressed it.

Mike Moore

I've never seen the person before. I've only been done one one or two polling sites, so I've never seen anybody do it.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

I I've not noticed it but Okay. Thank you. Yep. Thank you for bringing to our attention. Clerk. Uh nothing at this time, man. Um okay, I have a few things. Um Mr. Carbal, were you able to show that? Location site that I Okay, you didn't see it. All right, so while I'm going to the next thing, if you guys could put up the location of the property we bought at the last meeting. Um And I think this goes to your uh scallop

suggestion, Jack. And yeah, we went out about five times uh scalloping. And um definitely the most successful time was in Pasco County. Um this last Friday we had donated a scallop expedition for the P Pasco Education Foundation and the uh the bidder, the winning bidder. Um chose Friday to go out. So we we took a group um Kira, one of the one of the girls here. earlier uh was on our boat. Um

It w you know, we got enough to have an appetizer.

Mike Moore

That was what Hernando?

Kathryn StarkeyChair

We went up to Hernando, yeah. Oh okay and we went to like six or seven places.

No, you didn't go to Pasco. Um We d I would say it's the worst scalloping I've ever had uh in Hernando and Citrus. But um I understand that that's cycli that s that scalloping is cyclical and every once in a while um It just kinda resets. And so we we're sure it'll come back. But it does beg

Mike Moore

better here and they like the scallops like us better chair. The scallops like Pasco County back.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

So it does beg the question when can we expand our season? And part of the reason why we haven't been able to expand our season is our lack of facilities for boat ramps. So I just wanted to draw your attention um to the purchase we made last board meeting. We've We we closed on it. This property on the uh Cody River. Um if you have your bearings that's catches with the red roof and Whiskey River with the blue roof. And

we purchased this land. Um and plan to o uh open a um Boat launch facility. Jack, I think it's in your district. But we we kept we kept our mouth quiet on this because we didn't want to have someone come in and you know, take the property from us and Um the city of uh New Port Richey uh New Port Richey And Port Ridge are all around in this area. It's interesting. Um it's not i this is I believe that is in

uh New Port Richey boundaries and they hope that one day this whole corner area. will be something different than what you see here. I don't think I captured all of the purchase because Down the street to the south we also bought a little triangle of land that faces on nineteen because we didn't have enough space for um boat storage. Um so so And

that could be it right there, but I I can't tell from my photo. Uh but um the city of Newport Ritchie's very excited that we made this purchase and want to work with us on a a master plan for this area. But we we anticipate having more boater access. uh in the future. We are also um appraising another piece of land that I cannot say where that is either, but it has another boat launch on it and so we may be adding that one as well. And

then of course we have Um the new Anclope River Park that is being redesigned and we didn't talk about it last week. We had that that contract for the restaurant um being approved last at the last board meeting. But the boat law the boat ramps at Anklett River Park will be improved. the the the movement of traffic will be improved. There'll be festival spaces, improved beach. uh area and of course I'm very much

looking forward to that restaurant on the water. Um, I'll be able to go there by my boat and enjoy the sunset and I think it's gonna be wonderful and I sure hope I can get a margarita or or a pina calada there. So I'm sure we're gonna do something with make it a wet zone. Um okay, so wanted to share that and maybe with these updates we can get our scout season elongated. Um

Madam Chair

Plus.

Mike Moore

Thank you.

Kathryn StarkeyChair

The um the I wanna thank all the staff that came out for our town hall uh two nights ago. We uh usually have that town hall at Metropolitan Ministries, but they are using that big um church facility at for storage right now. So we had to move it to the ek um Elfers Community Center, which I think affected Our um or attendance, but um We had a wonderful uh Wonderful two two and a half hours. And um I'm

happy to share that co enforcement shared that they are now out on the weekends. And they've shifted their hours a little bit, um uh I think it's eleven to eight. Is that what I heard? Which is great because some you know, if they stopped at five before, people weren't home to receive the the citation and now they can talk with the uh our constituents and explain what's you know what the issues are so I I think uh those are some great um changes um Let's see. Do I have

some other photos there that we send in? Trying to remember what they were of. Oh yeah. So um my next community cleanup is September tenth. Um a actually I'm not sure if we have a location yet where we're gonna hold the dumpsters. I heard that we may be going just up and down the streets and picking them up. unless something has changed. That's that was the news I got two nights ago but Now I see some um addresses are on here, but we'll be out out there on September tenth.

Um don't do you have some photos from uh no other photos? Well then I'll save that one for another meeting. Um and I think that's it for me.

Christina Fitzpatrick

Do you want to mention this or hand it up?

Kathryn StarkeyChair

Oh yeah, so these are the flyers that we made a little while ago. And I wanted to remind you, I handed one out. Um who was walking right down the middle of nineteen yesterday, Um I was heading to uh uh a uh political event. And so what time was it? Like quarter to seven. Oh there's the photo I wanted you to see. And um I mean in moving traffic this guy was walking between the left Between

the two lanes to the left heading south. So and and we lost um we lost one of our regular panhandlers in the holiday area a couple of weeks ago. Um W a gentleman who had one leg was in a wheelchair He uh stole a hot dog apparently. and the um store folks were chasing after him and he wheeled out into the traffic of nineteen and was killed. So You know, this is such a difficult subject, but I'm hoping that these flyers

can help some of the people who want help. So this photo is very interesting. It's kinda hard to see it in here. I'll d maybe I'll e email it to you. So this is Reinhardt's I think SEEP or SIPE? He is the CEO of um Miopta. in Hall in uh my district in Trinity, they make Glass um for periscopes and telescopes and Tanks and things. And this is He is in Gammersheim. At a rotary

meeting. with the Rotary in Gemersheim and they're exchanging their rotary flags, Jack. And they're they are going to start doing exchanges. So and is is Reinhardt in your rotary? Yeah. So this is the New Port Richey Rotary and the Rotary of Gammersheim. So I'm so excited we're gonna meet and talk about all the different things we could do to keep um keep that relationship going. So very exciting and I hope I hope that we get to welcome some of their Rotary members here. Okay,