TMA members and voting

3:29:32Because I'm not feeling well. If Mr. Bradford had been here today, you probably would have been online myself. Um Okay. Uh we had our TMA meeting. You were there, right?

3:29:45Was that good?

3:29:46I thought it went pretty well. Yes. Um we had our normal um Sour face. Hillsborough County Commissioner, can I say that? She won she was it was uh not a bad meeting. One was a commissioner, one was a city council person. It was a good meeting. But all in all we were positive thinking and moving forward And um we went through the numbers. And it turns out I think we're gonna be at the bigger number. And and we mentioned

3:30:16that So so we're kinda at Our

3:30:18members are gonna be bigger.

3:30:20Well the whole thing. So we were gonna be more towards the twenty five members and we kinda looked at it as teven ten for Hillsborough. Seven for Penellas. Four for Pasco. And of the ten for Hillsborough They can div y 'em up however they want. There would be two transit people, one from the airport, one from the port, We hadn't decided if they would be voting or non voting. So that got us to ten, seven, twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three.

3:30:51And then Commissioner Eggers wanted to discuss if we had citizen representation. Um

3:31:03But I'm not sure if P if those kind of people can vote on the city.

3:31:06Two larger cities east and west. Clearwater City of Tampa and Saint Pete.

3:31:10Yeah.

3:31:11as one and one to represent the the city's voices.

3:31:15Or or there was other discussion, I was gonna bring this up. Um if as if we have a small city's representation So the small s cities get together and every year they have a rotating city. So we

3:31:27need three for that.

3:31:29Or each county could have a city person from their county and we could rotate them in from our own counties. So there's there's still a couple options to still be worked out. But we're looking at the larger one. But in my opinion, the magic number is always Pasco Pedellas.

3:31:49Pasco andellas are very strong together. Yeah,

3:31:51we're very strong together. And um

3:31:55And we have some good members on Hillsborough that on Cam Bay Water, I know that

3:32:01Yeah. Yeah. I you know, we hear from the one voice from Tampa. Oh right,

3:32:07yeah.

3:32:07Um Ms. Hurtak, but we don't know what the other ones are thinking, so and she's she's their voice. Um was there anything else on the T MA that

3:32:17we had the the two ports. Everybody was in agreement on the the airport and the port just 'cause they're regional Port International and Airport impact. We haven't decided if they were voting or non voting. The breakdown of the three counties And then discussion on small cities because Penells has what, twenty four cities. We have a handful and

3:32:40the commission the mayor

3:32:41how Mayor

3:32:42from Temple Tel Terrace is very very

3:32:45Mayor Ross was He did

3:32:47a great job. I'm so glad he's part of this discussion now. So I thought it was uh on the whole very, very positive. Um we're going to not have the small cities discussion until the not this next meeting, but the following meeting, because he wants to be there, so that'll be in the June one. Um But overall very very positive. Um There was something else that from Tampa but anyway. All right. Um

3:33:15a little bit. So I I mean we had our presentation with the MPO. One of the things that I wanted to make sure is we kept our voting structure the way it was gonna be where we had that slight edge with Pasco County.

3:33:29But if you bring in those port, the port and the airport

3:33:34It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You still they they can be non voting, but you you don't want to change that structure, I don't think. There I mean we we got all the density from the port and the airport. Well, that's where the voting block is stronger anyway. That's why they have so much population. They've already got an edge by having the port and the airport. You're going to give them more of an edge. By having the entity there. So if they want to

3:33:55stop at our MPO to see where we are, because I I'm not finish.

3:34:00If you

3:34:01don't decide that here though.

3:34:02No, I know, but we w you you brought it up, so we're gonna talk about it. If you if you look at if you dilute the vote further by having those two on there, it takes away the very thing you were trying to accomplish. They get the density again from those things. I think you really need to look be cautious. I'm I'm glad to have them on the board. I just don't want to dilute the vote. That's the key. Um the bus, the transit people on there too? Same thing. But just don't let it have them vote. Let 'em have the representation, let him get the input. When you try to go

3:34:32to the cities and all the other things, now you're also taken from populations that's already there and again diluting it further. Keep it where the votes stay the way they are. If they want to give the vote to the port and the airport in the big cities, let them go do that. They may that may that may may be where they go, but don't change the basic structure to put us in a further minority.

3:34:52Okay, we gotta have this discussion at the MPO. Um we'll have this discussion at our next MPO because that's where it has to come out, not here. Right?

3:35:03What's up?

3:35:04And I I didn't you know, I I see the value in both. I personally think Joe Lopano was a big regional thinker, so he's retiring. Um But I I I don't have a I don't have a real stake in the ground on that, other that we always the two counties always have a majority over the other one.

3:35:22Yeah, Pen Pinellus Pinellus and Hillsboro were Pasco was outnumbered there. Pinells and Hillsborough were pretty admint about Having the ports. in the conversation. And we were so we were just kind of like, okay, we'll

3:35:39We need all of our three voices though there. We were at a disadvantage. So I'm very grateful you were there, but we normally could have three voices there at the T M B. We only had two. Um Okay, but that I'm just glad we're we're moving on. Uh this was the governor's luncheon. I know Ron was there.