APC10 Columns at Bear Creek small-scale comprehensive plan amendment

2:45:21So your next and last item is APC ten.

2:45:51Mr. Chairman, members of the commission, my name is Ed Zody and I'm a planner with long range. We'll wait for the folks to come.

2:46:00Have somebody uh speaking at the volume

2:46:06I'm sorry.

2:46:11How uh one of the documents open.

2:46:17I think there was a second copy of it. Yeah,

2:46:19there's

2:46:19a couple of things.

2:46:19Yeah, I thought you said extra copies. Maybe there's still over one copy over here.

2:46:31I don't know if this is what

2:46:32he was looking for. All right, why don't you go right ahead then?

2:46:36Mr. Chairman, members of the commission, my name is Ed Zodian. I'm a planner with long range. For this matter, you're sitting as the LPA, by the way. The matter before you is a small excuse me, a small scale comprehensive plan amendment Uh columns at Bear Creek now. Yeah you'll note it had a C P A L number on the Uh the slide, however, just the rationale for that was that it was initially submitted as a large scale. We met with the developers and their

2:47:06agents and negotiated the item down to a small scale. Sure.

2:47:15It is in the central market area. As you can see it's uh East of Little Road and south of State Road 52 and west of Moon Lake Road. Uh Th and I apologize now. I d notice that this was the old slide, it is an error. However, we're amending the future land use from res six to res twelve. The ROR is not being addressed and the memorandum describes that correctly. The proposed

2:47:45development is to add 120 multifamily units. Therefore, it would be a total of 168 units. The resolution in this case is to amend the future land use map two fifteen and sheet twelve, excuse me, sheet eleven. And there is a proposed MPUD that's running concurrently. The following comprehensive plan amendment is consistent with the following policies. Initially With res twelve the intent is to recognize those areas that are suited for single

2:48:16family and multifamily residential development at a Gross maximum density of twelve units per acre.

2:48:24The transitional land use table does reflect that Res twelve is consistent with the ROR which is to the north and the Res six which surrounds it.

2:48:39This this is. Excuse me, the submission is also consistent with HSG one one two, providing that it's gonna provide additional types of multifamily units in the area, which is an area of growth.

2:48:54Uh again. The site location.

2:49:00Yeah, we get And if I can, I'll ask if there are any questions. We are recommending approval. It is consistent with the area.

2:49:10are there any questions?

2:49:11Sure.

2:49:12Yes.

2:49:13You said right at the outset you negotiated with the applicant. To reduce the project size to make it a small scale plan amendment rather than a large scale plan amendment. Why?

2:49:26We didn't think it was consistent that they were try when they were attempting to both phases of the columns of Bear Creek, that's this thirty-eight acre tray-four acre tract and the tract below it. We thought that was inconsistent with the area and that there wasn't a transition, a orderly transition with respect to density. So we thought that this one was a very good thing. Did comply with the transition rules by virtue of having ROR and then the R res six around it. Can

2:49:56you put the map back up and just try to Sure.

2:50:03Bear with me here. Let me see if I can

2:50:10Uh on this this map here, the pink area is the area that's being submitted today as a small scale. The large scale also included that tract of land below it. So We didn't think that the taking this all to uh Res twelve was consistent with the area.

2:50:30And that remains res six?

2:50:33Yes, sir. It's part and it is part of the MPUD.

2:50:40Okay, I understand.

2:50:44Okay. No more questions, Sean?

2:50:48All right.

2:50:53Is there anybody here in the audience that's here to speak on this? All right. Would you like to come forward?

2:51:11My name is Ron Oakley. I live at [address removed]. I'm the Vice President of Bayonet Point Village Co-op. We have really t only two concerns. The first is the water drainage. We want that away from our park.

2:51:33Let me let me just before you go any further, have you been sworn, sir?

2:51:36Yes, I have. I'm sorry. Uh we want the drainage to go away. so it doesn't flood our park. And it already has a in the back of the pink there. There is a lake back there now. So Anyway, but that's one of our major concerns. Our other concern is the increase in traffic. and as the gentleman there said, Things has changed in Pasco County. I remember

2:52:06when fifty two was one lane each way. Now we have thousands of cars a day. Now if you look at The commons

2:52:18They are between two storage lots. Or they come out.

2:52:26The boats, the trailers, the campers, whatever's in the storage lock comes out to 52. They have to make a right turn. come down in front of Bayonet Point into a U turn on the to go back to the West

2:52:45We have to wait sometimes five to seven minutes. to get out, to get across the road, because when the traffic gets done coming east and west We have to wait for the traffic coming out of The columns. So do a U turn. So they can go to their business, which, you know, like I said, I don't think anybody in the park has any problem with the columns. They're they've been quiet. Good people over there,

2:53:16not a problem. Uh our biggest problem is we'd like to have a light, either put it R, Entrance? or we would like to have The road. in front of the columns opened up so they can go straight across and they can do all the turning. That's all we're asking for. And You know, with a hundred and fifty homes going in there. That's going to create approximately two hundred and twenty five cars. Put

2:53:47another two hundred twenty five cars turnin' to come back to go east down the Little Road or the Publix. Uh it's a great danger. We've had several of our community residents get killed out on 52. Uh it's not the same as it was years ago. And I appreciate him saying that. Uh and I just want you to take all this into consideration. Thank you very much.

2:54:13Thank you very much for coming and your patience.

2:54:18Any is there anyone else?

2:54:21Okay, I guess not.

2:54:24Mm mm. Oh, there it is. Okay.

2:54:29Shelby Fuente, I'm with Stantec Consulting Services, and we are representing the owner of the columns at Bear Creek for this. And I have been sworn. I do just kind of want to address some of the comments that have been brought up today. So we did initially submit this application as a large-scale application. The columns at Bear Creek MPD, it consists of two parcels, which is currently 58.25 acres. We were currently, that proposal was requesting both of those parcels to go to a Res 9

2:55:00to kind of achieve that density that. We are looking to accomplish. But after kind of talking with staff, then that's kind of where some of the negotiations came in to better implement transition of density. So instead of going res9 on both parcels, then we changed the application to only be amending the northernmost parcel. So the one that we have today, and that is only 37.788. So that was going to a res twelve.

2:55:28Let's see. We have had conversations with Wayne and Ron, so the gentleman that just spoke. So we will be working with them throughout the MPD phase. We're gonna meet with them to kind of better understand some of their concerns on this project and look to incorporate those within the MPUD when we can. Um stormwater then we currently do have plans for those to be located in the southwest corner. So that is the opposite side um from the bayonet point um um development and

2:55:59also for transportation then we have already had a pre-application meeting with FDOT to address any concerns with density and access. Do you have any other additional questions for me?

2:56:10Um I'd just like to point out to the gentleman the stormwater's going in the southwest corner. the natural lay of the land out there is that direction, so that's away from the the park.

2:56:21Right. There's two categor uh category two wetlands in that area, so it kind of helps support them in that way.

2:56:27And have you looked into the uh prospect of getting a light?

2:56:32Um no sir, we have not.

2:56:34Okay, are you

2:56:36willing

2:56:36to look in that direction?

2:56:37That's something that we are in discussions with F DOT on, so we are taking their um their notes from that application and seeing what um SR fifty two would require in that area.

2:56:47Okay. Well how d what position does the county take on that, uh, Denise or David, either one of you?

2:56:57Well

2:56:57it would have to meet

2:56:58warrants and it Yeah.

2:57:05What used to be Paradise Point.

2:57:07And one at Chicago, right.

2:57:10So I this is something that's typically looked at at the M P D stage as part of the Timing and phasing or access management analysis. I assume that M P U D this is gonna be an M P U D.

2:57:20It it is there is a companion

2:57:24will likely look at that issue and if A signal is either warranted or likely to be warranted, the conditions of approval will address the requirement to install that signal. Okay. It's typically dealt with at the M P D stage. Since he brought it up, I just

2:57:41wanted to make sure that he was a good idea.

2:57:42So I mean this gentleman may want to monitor the issue and show up when the MPD comes to here because that's where that question would likely be answered.

2:57:52Uh conducted in The uh uh development. And the road system complies. There there's not an issue.

2:58:00Yeah, but to be clear, transportation needs assessment is only looking mostly at the generalized capacity of 52. It's not looking at access to fifty two, which that is looked at at the MPUD stage.

2:58:10Right. Right.

2:58:11Right. Thank you, David.

2:58:14that and there's an opportunity for

2:58:15it. So so staff will look at it, but it just it this This is too early in stage of a development to look at it. Okay, great. Thank you.

2:58:24Thank you.

2:58:25Okay. You represent the applicant.

2:58:29Yes, sir.

2:58:30No, I'm talking about

2:58:31I represent uh Mayna Plenty Park, I'm the treasurer there. I just would like to add a few.

2:58:36Well I've already I'm sorry, I've already called for I'm sorry to c I've already called for people to come up here from The other side.

2:58:46What do you want to do, Debbie?

2:58:48I it's up to you, Mr. Chair, but if you do you have to give the applicant rebuttal again.

2:58:52Yeah.

2:58:52So it but it's up to you.

2:58:56All right. There's only one person? Okay.

2:58:59I'll make it very

2:59:00quick. Okay.

2:59:04Otherwise it could go on forever. Yeah, Apple.

2:59:09I haven't been sworn yet.

2:59:11Please wear from the testimony you're about to give us the truth, Selfie God.

2:59:16My name is Wayne Lowe. I l also live in the uh Bayonet Point village. Um The traffic assessment that we're seriously concerned about. Uh there is uh uh parking uh for trailers and boats and stuff that has just went in. that's brand new and hasn't been used yet because it's not finished. So You have that traffic added to And and that also comes out

2:59:46on the

2:59:49Exit. So That all that traffic is another added addition besides the impact of the uh the new residence.

2:59:58Okay.

2:59:59If you can also consider that Thank you.

3:00:05Any comment on that? Mm is that the applicant?

3:00:10Is the applicant have any comment on that? Okay.

3:00:15All right.

3:00:18Thank you for it, everybody. Any questions up here, any comments? Not I'll hear a motion.

3:00:26A motion that we approve.

3:00:28Second. Motion and the second. For the discussion of the motion. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, like, signed. Motion carries.