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Dade City

Good morning, Ralph Lair and a governmental affairs officer. So I'm gonna give you an update on what's going on at the state and federal. Uh let's start with the state first. So we're in our final week of session. Uh they'll sign you die on Friday. Um As of today. Sixty bills have passed both chambers. This is the um Smallest amount of bills passed by a legislative session. Um as far as the budget. The budget. Is at a standstill? The

plan is to sunny die on Friday and come back after April and start again on the budget. So going into the conference which never happened Um the House and Senate passed out their their budgets. We had one project in the House, four projects placeholders in the Senate. Um you might as well s say it's gonna start from scratch after Uh we come back from uh Easter, they'll probably work on it. uh and make those discussions batted back uh back and forth uh before they come back for conferencing. Good

thing is is I guess when they do pass a budget. Um the g uh governor won't have that much time to act on it, so he'll have to uh uh move quickly. um putting on any vetoes. What we do have to watch out for is there's some bad legislation uh that will impact the local governments that is moving through. We have uh sovereign immunity is uh being addressed today. Uh that's one that they've uh held off for years on, but it looks like they may bring that in for a landing uh and raising the uh the amounts

that um people can sue uh their local governments uh and how much will be paid. But we'll see how that plays out. um some um land development bills, uh some building permit bills moving through. So there's still some stuff uh um that that could impact us at the end of the day. Um but by Friday we'll have a a better understanding and I'll give you an update on what bills actually did pass and we'll go to the governor. uh state level or federal

level. Uh federal level, uh we had some great meeting. Uh we had a great meeting on Friday uh with staff. Did you want to talk about that one? Um so our lobbyist was able to set up a meeting with HUD and then we had uh Kathy Pearson and uh some of her team members there. We had Chuck Lane from community uh from uh Office of Disaster Recovery and Resources and Community Development, uh Mary Thur Young uh as well on the on the call. We were able to talk about

C D B G D R

Um And we also talked about um the universal notice and using the um DR funds for uh EOC. very positive from the staff person uh on those two issues. uh possible waivers that we're gonna look at. Uh which was good to hear. Um and then we talked about the um residency requirements. on uh the um The the Hud and the um whatever. Section

eight uh housing. Yeah, the section eight housing. Uh we're gonna probably follow up sh uh probably get another staff person at HUD to talk with us on that issue. Um and then we're go ahead.

Kathryn Starkey

If I can say something about that, you know when we talk to our our con congressional delegation And I'll never forget when we when we came out of my meeting and you were there and we were talking to the deputy director of HUD. And the um commissioner from LA County who's has Al Al Tadina Um she's she's a big deal. Kathryn Barker is standing there because she wanna talk to him too. And I'm explaining What's going on with these section eight vouchers? She had no idea. I'm telling you this c Commissioners

across the country have no idea this is going on because we don't that's not something we control. And so if we're not asking the questions like we did. They they have no idea. I've never found anyone who knew what was going on with with this with this um local preference and who who's actually getting your vouchers and the whole thing. So the the deputy director did not know. Did the people on your call, the person you talked to know? Unless they've been briefed because we we've been raising the gong up

there.

Mike Carballa

I don't think that they actually conveyed a knowledge of it because the way we explained it to them was talking about the prioritization v before we randomly select those who would be on vouchers. And so it was something we was gonna look into and talk. So it's uh to your point.

Kathryn Starkey

Yeah.

Mike Carballa

It's it's little known.

Kathryn Starkey

Yeah, and we also did the uh the um Davis Bacon to to everybody that we could. Okay. Go ahead, Ralph.

Dade City

Okay.

Uh Ballard Partners is going to be setting up a meeting uh and probably next week with staff uh for us to uh talk with uh Army Corps of Engineers. So we have a couple of issues that we wanna discuss with them about. Uh we're gonna uh bring up the uh four rivers. Um reauthorization project that we've been working on, uh trying to bring that in for landing, see where they are on that. Uh we want to talk about uh Maggie Valley, some issues that we have over there with some

permitting. and also on our Um sediment removal. Uh so we'll we'll have a uh good conversation with them and and and hopefully we'll we'll get some positive feedback from them. As you know, Army Corps of Engineers is a Uh agency that uh moves very slowly.

Kathryn Starkey

Um on the Army Corps, um Jack Jack, because I know you deal a lot with them, we need to add the new boat ramps at Anclope River Park because that's holding up our park remodel. We're trying to um make that safer and expand it a little bit and it's slowing up everything.

Jack MarianoChair

Thank you.

So one one thing with that um As far as Army Corps of Engineers. Jason, I uh you can not nod from there. We have signed up with Dawson Associates. So Dawson Associate's the one that helps get Ridge Road done. And Sun West also have just a uh put a request in for us to go work to jointly go get that uh channel permitted again.

uh Florida DEP, cabinet approval, and then it gets stuck in the Army Corps. And they were crazy what they were doing to the bureaucrats. So we're gonna work with them now and try to get those done so we can we can work on that as well.

Dade City

So then uh uh final thing I wanted to bring up is last week Um we had to submit projects uh for consideration uh to our congressional members for um uh community funding requests. Um d s Congress works a little a little different. They just completed the twenty six budget and we got some items in there. Uh and Um we got notification that they needed the request back while we were in Washington. Uh so uh worked

with staff on that since we did not have any uh un until after the fact this meeting today uh where we couldn't vet uh all the projects with you but we um I I discussed them with some of you all um about what projects we move forward. These are projects that are already on the list uh in our departments. So uh staff worked uh diligently and got back um projects that we could submit uh that are align with issues that you want to address. So this year, uh for

the or for the twenty seven Uh we submitted for consideration to Uh uh Congresswoman Lee, uh Curly Road Sidewalk for $1.5 million. Uh Zephyr Creek phase two uh two, seven million dollars. Um A fire station thirty-one, seven point five million dollars, and another sidewalk in her district, Brinson Road Sidewalk for eight hundred thousand. hopefully we'll find out this week what

projects she will choose. Uh, same way with Congressman Bellarakus. We submit them and and then they they vet them Uh good thing is is our congressional members now get twenty ask instead of fifteen. So

Kathryn Starkey

that's twenty for county or twenty total?

Dade City

Twenty total for them total. So that means Gus has three counties.

Kathryn Starkey

Hernandez

Dade City

Correct, correct. And and what we have to realize with With also with the federal they no longer do Direct um allocations to non profits, they have to go through counties, the county they're in, for pass through. So with com Congressman Bill Arakis's office Uh we submitted Uh the Parkway Boulevard Sidewalk uh for $4 million. Seapine Septic D sewer, that was a project we had in the state level, but

was not picked up for their budget consideration this year. Uh so we put that in for $6.5 million. An emergency vehicle driving simulator for the fire rescue for $350,000. And we were asked by Congressman Bilarakis' office to put in three additional projects for um nonprofits, Vincent House. Uh Pasco member housing one point five million dollars. uh the Spearows campus stormwater treatment and r uh reuse infrastructure for

three million dollars. and then a project for AM skills uh for the workforce ca uh capacity build building initiative for four hundred and fifty one thousand seven hundred and eighteen dollars. Again We will probably hear back from the uh congressman and congresswoman this week on what projects they do move forward on. So that's what we

Kathryn Starkey

Which was the first one? The Parkway Boulevard?

Dade City

Parkway Boulevard.

Kathryn Starkey

What's Parkway?

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

Line View Middle and Elementary.

Dade City

And again, it's near the elementary school over in that

Kathryn Starkey

area.

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

It's

Kathryn Starkey

called Parkway the name of the road?

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

To get there. There's it's the most dangerous route of all the it's number one on the school district's list. We we captured some state funding from steel in twenty two. We have a vendor now and there's another segment. So it's the most

Dade City

it's it's near the Pine View Middle School

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

over in Land Lakes. It'll help two schools. I didn't know

Dade City

what park Well if it's all you. So you know, w we have a lot of those uh um sidewalks and we work with the schools and they pick the um the um ones that are the most dangerous uh on the list. uh and we start working down the list. We've been very successful at the state and the federal level when it comes to uh uh Safe Street to Schools project. So we have two of those, one in Lee, one in uh Bilaracus, and then we have an additional sidewalk, not really a a safe t route

to school, but it was submitted as well. In League's district.

Jack MarianoChair

And that's the right-of-way. Where we are at. And if I could, I want to talk just a bit about uh the great work that uh the s the team did while I was uh while I was up there. As I sit in the transportation committee Uh a gentleman who used to work under the Trump organization was back with him again. Another lady who hadn't worked with him was there as well. And uh so Department of Transportation did a presentation, they talked about the safety of overpasses, et cetera. No, I know we've all been briefed on Ridge Road, the extra expenses going on, the negotiation with CSX finally over, but it was like his hot topic was that.

And he kept on talking of th through that thing how we'll make everything safer. So as we got thr a little bit through, they talk about a build grant, there's a Chrissy grant, and the build grants We're ending Tuesday, five o'clock. It's gonna be on Saturday now, Saturday morning. Bill grants were ending Tuesday. It was like Mm-hmm. The C the C SX Bridge was like the perfect thing to go apply for, especially with this guy pushing that thing to get forward. The other thing was as far as like safety

and road projects was uh County Line Road. So happened to be the Hernando government affairs person was there. talked with her and um I didn't have time to coordinate between the two of us. but got with the team. So Brantford Penos did a phenomenal job. They worked From that moment on Saturday. Through Tuesday to get it done. To to get to get it done. And Mike, you

were

very helpful to try to like letting them know how important this was just the commissioner talking, but you were fully fully versed by being there, so thank you for that. And those guys got that project done and submitted, both of them by five o'clock. This could be a twenty-five million dollar grant apiece that we get. And they both really align very well, especially one with two counties, one with the overpass. So I want to say you guys did a phenomenal job. I really appreciate it and uh great work on that. One of the things um We did talk about with the you talk about Davis Bacon. We did talk with Department

of Labor the last day I was there. and uh we talked with them about it and they didn't understand a lot of Davis Bacon, how how it affects everything as well, they're gonna actually take a look at that. There was supportive to actually take a look at it. If we get their support, that's gonna be, I think, go a long way to getting that through. So all that said I think um You know, our our lobbyists did a good job setting up for us. I think we do better. I do think we've got to go look at this manatee thing. This is a great great tool. I think we're bringing this forward. Oh thank you. This is a it's just a nice thing you can look at

later 'cause you know what this is it. Yeah. The picture, the verbiage, all tying together as opposed to just on a sheet. I think it's it's gonna be the way to go.

Kathryn Starkey

Passing out.

Jack MarianoChair

Yeah. But uh thank you for helping out with everything we're off coordinating with them and I know it's a little hectic when you're up there trying to get it, but we do want to go up there again, which I do plan to go. And we'll have more time to just do that and it'll be easier to meet with people instead of when the Rush everyone else is there too. Especially with the senators. So thank you. You're welcome. All right.

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

So this next reiteration of Live Local 4.0

Oh yeah.

Dade City

So Live Local on the house side they're taking away our opt out provision that we work so hard on through the years. I gotta uh applaud David Goldstein for all the uh work he's done on the years on this issue. But now they wanna pull that out. Um the Senate has uh a less restrictive measure but they want to change the housing report that we use to uh um for the data to opt out uh move from three years to

to one year that won't impact us as much as some other counties but There is a provision um in the uh David, I uh I'm gonna gonna turn to you on that one. In the Senate bill, that's that's gonna be a a an issue, a problem that we have to deal with. But at the end of the day How they i if they eliminate opt out completely or if they uh just do a softer approach on the Senate, don't know how it's gonna end up.

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

But I think they wouldn't have to do that.

This bill this bill's evolving by this session. And we're getting smoke. A lot of smoke. And mirrors coming out of out of out of that crew up there.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So are you asking about the tax part of it or are you asking? The whole

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

thing. I mean you're in the fourth reiter reiterate reiteration of it. And it's getting worse. And in fact, it's expanding The preemption

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So it is getting worse.

is worse than every version I've seen than the Senate version. Um I can't predict for you which version is going to pass because their the two versions are so different between the House and the Senate. Um both on the tax side and on the land use side. The

As as Ralph said, the tax the on the tax side, the House version completely removes the opt-out, Senate version. doesn't remove the opt out but it it create some exceptions that make makes the opt out more difficult for us, but it doesn't remove it. Land use side um Uh the Senate it does create an additional um preemption for property owned by counties, cities. Um,

purchased it for it says that we have to be the applicant for it, so that seems like that would be unlikely to be used. Um the house version is a little worse. It doesn't necessarily require that. So I can't tell you which the problem is I don't know which version might get adopted because when they have competing versions, then it comes becomes a negotiation at the end of the process and I don't know which version we'll end up getting through. So I can't tell you where that where it's gonna land. Well

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

bottom bottom line is

Unidentified speakerVoice A

But they're both bad if that's the question. I

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

don't believe that the legislature is truly going to back off of this legislation. It's seemingly gonna keep evolving and and become worse under the under the the the premise of affordable housing, which to me is just a buzzword. Um I I appreciate what Hillsboro County's doing. I'm I'm ready to challenge the constitutionality of this bill. Because um There's seemingly not an appetite to really retool it. And I think it'll cause generational

travesties across the state. I think it's a job killer. Uh every ever all the work that Kant plans and Land Development Code updates that cities and counties do across the state to try to create atmospheres for employment and jobs and expand their tax base to be

Bye. Discounted apartments. Littered across our state.

private sector investment funds, corporations, you name it. In state. Out of state, out of country.

And um You know, my feelings towards this bill have just steadily uh gotten worse over the last number of years. And um I like I said, I I'd be willing to if we could get this this piece of legislation fixed, I'd be willing to forego any appropriation. for the next ten years because I've that's how strongly I feel that that this this piece of legislation is that bad. So My thoughts on it and thank you, Chair.

Jack MarianoChair

And I I tell you, Seth, I I appreciate your passion with us every step of the way. Uh it's helped quite a bit and David, uh what you've done up there has been great to educate people. You know, across the board in fact they all appreciate the efforts. It affects everybody differently, but it it just as you just touch on, it just is so amazing to me. looking at what happened like Seminole County. They brought all these apartments in, turned democratic. Lee Constantine talks about it all the time. Why I have a Republican group up there that wants to put these things

forward, I don't know. Uh anybody with a family that wants to have anything with parks and libraries and quality of life, I don't know. When you gotta deal with all the traffic we got. And to bring more in and encourage 'em and then takes away your tax base on top of that. I don't get it. It doesn't make any sense. I hope I hope they just keep fighting up there and and just nothing gets done.

Kathryn Starkey

You know, um,

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I made c a couple comments. One is that I'm cautiously optimistic that next year will be better because I believe that the sponsor of Lib Local will no longer be right uh in the legislature anymore. So maybe we'll get some changes next session, I'm hopeful.

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

I don't believe it.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

We

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

have to start protecting our own.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I guess we'll see next session. The only comment about the lawsuit from Hillsborough and I've been in direct communication with them is that um I think they may be revisiting their strategy a little bit because of the lawsuits under Senate Bill 180. Some of them got dismissed when they sued the state and so they may be revisiting the strategy. I they may still be suing I'm just not sure they're gonna be suing the state. So

Kathryn Starkey

which what's Senate Bill one eighty? The Live Local Senate Bill or the one

Unidentified speakerVoice A

that took

Kathryn Starkey

away our authority.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Those lawsuits were filed by a number of cities and counties and some of them were dismissed based on standing grounds and and other reasons and so Hillsboro is reevaluating their strategy based on the outcome of that case. So I don't want to get into the nuances of it, but I'm just saying that I've never been convinced that suing the state is the best way to handle those lawsuits. I agree with the strategy of suing. I've always thought the best way of handling lawsuits is individual

lawsuits against a live local developer, somebody who actually comes into our county and tries to to use Live Local in our county. As opposed to suing the state suing the state of Florida. And I'm still convinced, especially after seeing the results of the Senate Bill 180 litigation, that that's the best way of handling it. So I still think that's my recommendation to you is that we handle it the way we're currently handling it on a case by case basis as opposed to suing the state. And

even if we lose our opt out, and I'm hopefully we don't, and we have later on today, we still have with that's on our agenda to continue to opt out. Um my still my recommendation would be that we sue on a project by project basis, not sue the state.

Kathryn Starkey

Can I can I say that uh that I had a conversation with one of our legislators who I won't name and you know they're getting information in Tallahassee about Housing shortages and and um affordability and um And so that was the reason why they were thinking it that live local may be a good thing. So I said, Well it might be in some counties, but you need to look at the numbers in our county and I sent That's

this person. Um the Schimberg The two reports that you sent me. I forwarded them on. Um But you know, maybe we need to be sure we're telling our story. about the numbers in our county. versus developers who are trying to get a project done in Broward County or Miami Dade. Telling our guys. You know, their story. Because What may be happening down there is not what's happening here. And you know, when

it's redevelopment That's a different issue. But we got greenfields that they're trying to take away. And that's that's just goes flat against what this state's trying to do, bring in high quality jobs. Um on the Senate Bill 180 The new one. Is this still keeping us from adopting our our comp plan? Because we should have been through it now, all our all our changes.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So we're looking into that issue. Um The City of Okoe um actually sued the sued the Department of Commerce. They lost, but it appears that the City of Okoe determined that their Complan even though they lost the w they they lost the battle but they may have won the war, in the sense that it appears they've determined that their Complan was effective because The Department of Commerce didn't have jurisdiction to find their comp plan was not valid. So we may we're we're investigating

that. We may in fact be able to adopt our com plan on the basis that the Department of Commerce does not have jurisdiction to make that determination.

Kathryn Starkey

I would like to go ahead and adopt our comp plan and if someone doesn't like what we're putting in, bring

Unidentified speakerVoice A

That's effectively what the city of Okoi's position has been. But

But

we're

Unidentified speakerVoice B

still having hearings before the Planning Commission on the Comp plan.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

No, we're not we're w the LPA hasn't even considered I'd say half of the comp plan so far.

Kathryn Starkey

How did they stop working on it?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

It's not that they stopped working on it. Staff has not presented half of the comp plan to the LPA. Like the whole the entire Future land use element element. has not been presented to the LPA yet.

I thought

Kathryn Starkey

we were adopting this in the fall.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

That's a question. All right,

Kathryn Starkey

here comes Mr. Engel, who was not the one speaking to my group, it was Mr. Cronin. And my staff said I said David Engel, so I apologize. He's he's coming up at a future meeting.

David Engel

Hey, how are you? David Engel, Planning and Economic Development Director. So we had a voluminous uh interaction with the LPA on the initial elements or chapters, and it took up so much of their time they asked us to ease off a little bit, so we took a pause. Uh we are finalizing the most important component of the Com Plan Draft, which is your land use element, which we called Pasco grows. And we will be releasing and presenting

our draft to the LPA within weeks. And our schedule is to, once we get through that, we're gonna bring it to the board and sit down and have one-on-ones and a workshop. We have a May workshop set up to review PASCO 2050 with the board. So we'll have some some major findings for you and that we'll have an open discussion. And we're targeting adoption uh summer into Labor Day.

Okay.

Kathryn Starkey

Checking my schedule. No, that's March. Okay.

Jack MarianoChair

I mean we do have a comp plan that's in place too. So even that alone pr is is should be enough protection for us, the new changes. Maybe an issue depending on what it's g get adopted, whatever happens, but we do have something in place that we can fall back on.

David Engel

That's right, sir. We we still, you know, govern the roost by PASCO twenty twenty five. And but we have made some recent amendments to the Com plan and Uh uh. S B one hundred eighty kind of puts them out there and um you know we'll see how it goes.

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

Thank you, Chair. So I guess question for three of you. So I was reading about Missoul's bill. Ralph Mazzulo's bill nine one had just passed. He did a social media post on it. Uh that bill along with and that dealt with staff time in expediting processes and everything that's gonna impact Davis department and JP and his team and probably county attorney. So between That bill and

then the other which other preemption bills, land use preemption bills have legs in Tallahassee right now?

They're all under affordable housing.

Dade City

Yeah, they're all under affordable housing, you're correct. I think it's like a a total of two that still have some legs, but again, don't know. It more than likely they're gonna bat back and if they end up going back and forth because of having differences, they'll they'll die in the end. Uh so I really don't wanna, you know, say let's l let's

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

So the bill that I'm curious about

Dade City

Of course my computer

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

shuts down when you are strict. Maybe nine something I think the number is

And I just My concern was We set budgets. And then if it conflates. Staff time and cost.

Dade City

Let me try to find it. Hold on, give me just a second and I'll pull for you.

Masula O.

Uh Regulation of No that's not it. It's um

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

four eight and four ninety?

Dade City

Wait, public that's public records. No. He he I don't see one uh where he actually has that's uh impacting

Unidentified speakerVoice B

They've got one that he had one early in the session called qualified contractors that was Sh shot clocks and um it

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

was aspirational. I don't know how we could any city or county could comply.

Kathryn Starkey

Nope. And then I have a question on blue ribbon. Did that die?

Dade City

927.

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

Yes.

Kathryn Starkey

Friday we thought we that was dying.

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

Requiring certain counties or municipalities to establish development pre-app consultation service program, establishing a framework for qualified contractors to assist with pre-app consultation and technical review of certain development approvals requires local governments to maintain registry of qualified contractors or firms.

Uh to supplement staff review resource and allows applicants to select their own qualified contractor, but there's more into it. It's land that's local land planning and development.

I mean that could really sp put a hole in so many processes and trying to figure out how to become compliant. County Attorney time. Your team.

Dade City

There we go.

Of the qualified contractors is the bill that he has. Yeah, eleven thirty-eight is Masulo. That's the number. Um and in the house it's uh

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

House Bill nine twenty seven

Dade City

twenty-seven by SAP. Um so where we are on that one now is

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

It's enrolled, it's past. That one did pass. Yeah. So it's it's going to the other. Yeah.

It's one of the sixty bills at

Dade City

best.

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

because there's a lot buried in there that's going to impact how Staff's going to operate, how county attorney's team operates. Um and I'm sure there's an An anticipated cost. associated with it. There always are. I hope not, but Anyway. that's one

Dade City

of

the things that we're talking

about.

and staff has been monitoring. Um, JP's group has been monitoring that. So

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

Good

Dade City

stuff.

Kathryn Starkey

No, well I want to ask about the blue ribbon because on f on Friday on the uh FAC Legislative Executive Committee called the

Um

Dade City

it's one of those where that one's one where it's getting ba uh back and forth, bouncing back and forth um because of changes. So it's not officially nothing's officially dead until Friday. Uh so it but it has not passed both chambers as of yet.

Kathryn Starkey

So uh y'all need to I don't know where it came up in some social media feed that I got. Of a of a public meeting in Vero Beach. Of something called an epic city. Are you familiar with any of this? I just googled it. They're having problems with this in Texas. Um it has to do with uh

Yeah, I'm probably gonna be quoting the paper on this one. Okay, but it has to do with um a Muslim community coming in and setting up a community within your community. And they you know, they're doing the call to prayer and they do all these things and they are s kind of isuring local jurisdictions and I don't that that blue ribbon bill really You know, when you start taking away local control of anything God

knows what you're gonna get. And and then you don't have any ability? I I just think It's opening a Pandora's box and I would have you go do a little research on that. I I just started just a second ago just looking at it but Um you know the blue ribbon bill is the one that if you have ten thousand acres contiguous.

Okay, even worse. Yeah, no. Because then more counties can do it.

Dade City

So just so you know where the status of it is, so it was on the third reading today in the Senate, uh it was TP'd. Don't know. Uh it means it's dead right now on the floor until they can uh uh address the concerns that they have.

Temporarily postponed. No, temporarily

Kathryn Starkey

postponed.

Yeah. So fingers crossed.

Because what I heard on our call Friday was it still was like this. You can put the um the you know you have to save fifty or sixty percent of of of it in conservation, which includes the stormwater ponds and God knows what else by the way, um in one county and the development in another. And you have no say on On What goes in there or the densities And then uh are there schools, are there fire stations? Are do they

have utilities? Do they have roads? I mean Supposedly some hedge fund guy in New York has bought up a bunch of property in the Panhandle and is pushing this through. That's what the story we're getting.

Dade City

So brief summary. Permits up to 40% of the property for development, allowing compact, mixed-use, walkable communities with a maximum of 12 residential units per gross acre and 85% impervious surface ratio for non-residential uses. Requires at least 20% of residential units to be affordable housing, missing middle housing or housing for Florida Homeowners Heroes program. Establishes a long term vested development rights of fifty years, extendable by twenty-five years, if half the development

area is built within the initial time period. Mandates a blue ribbon plan detailing land use allocations, phasing, and environmental conservation, which once approved by a local government, presumes consistency with comprehensive plan, allows recorded plans to operate in lieu of existing plan and zoning requirements with limited review for any amendments, and offers an appeals process for both denial and approval.

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

Tough. It's another multifamily bill. Mm-hmm.

Jack MarianoChair

Well,

Kathryn Starkey

I like the walkable. I like that part of it.

Jack MarianoChair

Ralph, let me ask a question. How long did they take the Sadowski funds and not put money into affordable housing? How many years was that?

No, no, not in that. So at least ten.

Kathryn Starkey

Yeah.

Dade City

Oh,

Kathryn Starkey

sweeping it every year.

Dade City

Yeah, they did and and have they put it back in? No. It's every year it's always up.

Jack MarianoChair

Oh yeah, that was yeah. But I haven't seen any any constant fill.

like that

currently.

But put a p

tax

in place and then they just use it for their own funds to do whatever they want to do. Um I don't want to get into this discussion, but I think you should all talk to Mike and maybe possibly Amy about rollback rates and what might happen if this uh property tax thing passes and what could happen to businesses. Um I don't want to discuss it openly but because we'll give a discussion to talk to Mike and Amy about it. We've we've talked about about it already, but I think one on ones would be best.

Dade City

So so that's another one. That one has gone cold. Um they did not uh address they won't address that during the the the session this week. Um but that is one that could come back as a special session just to address that

Seth WeightmanVice Chair

What about the H O Should uh? that's crushed. Boy, we couldn't afford that. Golly.