TDC appointment, Sports Coast Awards, Meadow Point Boulevard

1:58:21Okay. That was there were four and we didn't. Commissioner Oakley. Commissioner Fitzpatrick.

1:58:28What is it?

1:58:32Mm-hmm. Can we start with Commissioner Oakley Uh Commissioner Mariano?

1:58:37What you forgot to go this way. One of the things that we're going to three

1:58:40quarters.

1:58:40Yes, yes. I don't know. We've done it like that for eight years.

1:58:47Commissioner Weightman

1:58:48might let

1:58:48you.

1:58:48You're not taking the nighttime medicine, are you?

1:58:52Maybe you get to speak today.

1:58:56Uh first thing I'd like to do is uh make a motion to confirm the city of Newport Ritchie um Councilman, actually Vice Mayor Mike Peters is a member of the T D C. Oh yeah. He's our council's choice for that spot. Um Councilman Davis has um since retired or not sought reelection, I guess, or maybe termed out. I don't know how it works over there. But um motion to uh

1:59:18I'll take

1:59:18a second.

1:59:21Uh mo uh making a motion to confirm uh the City of Newport Ritchie's appointment to the uh TDC, which is um Vice Um or Deputy Mayor Mike Peters. That was your choice. Okay.

1:59:32All in favor?

1:59:33Aye.

1:59:33Aye. Opposed? Okay.

1:59:35All right. I know you're not feeling good, so I'm gonna try and I might skip something. Um Again, I know uh everybody with on this on the dais was there at this uh event, but May 5th, we held the annual Florida Sports Coast Awards Banquet at the Hyatt Place in Westy Chapel. Sold out crowd, legit sellout, because we even had to turn people away the last minute for it, which was pretty awesome. Um that way next year the people got turned away, buy your tickets earlier. So thank to

2:00:05all uh thank you to all my fellow commissioners for attending Dan. Um Kathy was there, Sally was there, if I'm missing anybody that was there. Joanna was there. Ralph was there. Ralph were you there? Yeah, you're over there, that's right. Okay. Andy was there. Andy was there, but no, thanks everybody that um came that evening. It was a great event. Daddy S. Bowler, aka WWE superstar Titus O'Neill did a great job of his speech. Um photo on the screen. Just wanted to highlight for that for the people at home

2:00:35that were weren't able to attend. I had the honor of presenting Senate President Wilton Simpson, the Tourist Development Council Chairman's Choice Award for all that he's done for the state and Pasco County being a great supporter of tourism, from agritourism, leading the charge to extend visit Florida and more. I also want to thank Representative Randy Maggard for attending and many other staff members from other people's offices. Adam Colby, the whole entire team of Florida Sports Coast did an amazing job. Andy did an awesome job of assisting as well. Thank you, Andy and and

2:01:06Ralph, you stepped up and thank you for uh assisting us with a lot of those um selling tables and and tickets as well. So thank you to that. So again, congratulations to all the award winners, Senator Simpson. Lisa Moore of Hampton Inn, no relation to myself. Um Advent Health Center Ice, the shops at Wiregrass in Kathy Wend Wendy Laughlin. Great event. Next year I guess I'll be attending as a a uh what do you call that? A uh what what is that called again? A civilian. I'll be a civilian attending next year. Oh.

2:01:37Sir we I'm sorry, we can't

2:01:39Chairman

2:01:39Emeritus

2:01:40of the T D C is that

2:01:41Yeah there you go I like Chairman Emeritus of the T D C is

2:01:43gonna have to get your ticket early.

2:01:49Uh last week. The Port Ritchie C R A board voted to recommend removing another neighborhood. From their CRA boundary. Great news. I know something we've worked on for a number of years, so I appreciate uh their current. Council. And their current city manager for moving forward with that. It's uh it it's working a lot better. So I it's greatly appreciated. Final vote will be um sometime next week because they have a CRA board and it's the same people on that CRA board as us the

2:02:19city council. So I would assume they'll go ahead and vote yes again since they voted yes already. Um Last thing, um I did talk to Mr. Karbala about this a little bit earlier. Um Meadow Point Boulevard. For any of you familiar with Meadow Point Boulevard, you have Meadow Point One, Two, Three, Four, and now a number of other neighborhoods along Meadow Point Boulevard. This board has approved quite a few um new developments out there. Um there's been developments all

2:02:49dating back to the nineties um that are now moving forward in that area. That connection is about to open from Hillsboro County. K bar. K Bar. No, actually a real connection. K Bar to Meadow Point Boulevard. If you remember previously, there was three possible connections. We said no to the one on um

2:03:13Mansfield and

2:03:14Kinnan Kennan. Mansfield and Kinnan. But um the one at Meadow Point Boulevard as well as the one off uh is it Bearsley? I think yeah, Beersley will be opening Um If you've driven out there recently, It's stacking up. Traffic is really, really bad for those residents. We've had it in the plans to widen Meadow Point Boulevard. Now's really the time we need to move forward with that because of all the new development. Um I was made aware of another development.

2:03:44It won't come in front of us. It'll be it's gonna be on a staff level because it's it already has the zoning. Um and that's opening soon as well. I don't remember how many homes there are there. It's another one of the rental home communities. Um you have oh gosh, what all the I'm trying to remember all the new neighborhoods out along there. What's the one where the charter Um Metro owns it. No, that's not Avalon Park. That's PT Four. Union Park, uh a number of other neighborhoods out there. Plus recently, if you remember past November,

2:04:14um they came out here and talked about with the applicant, uh, spoke about um some commercial as well as the multifamily they're already allowed to have. They actually scaled that down, but they're actually adding more commercial as well as single family. So bottom line is um I've been given

2:04:35So I would love to see that move forward sooner than later. So Mr. Kabbalah, what do we know?

2:04:41So it is currently in the LRTP. Right. Um it is about probably 10 to 15 years out based on that current plan. So obviously, we need to drop back and take a look at that between traffic operations and planning. I can tell you that we do have some operational improvements. Uh, namely, there's a northbound left turn lane on the southern segment between County Line and 56. that uh is is being looked at to alleviate some of those longer backups at the peak morning traffic hours. Um uh again the

2:05:11opening of some of uh some of the additional parallel facilities from the southern portions of Hillsborough County would would help alleviate that thoroughfare if once once that's opened. Uh but these are

2:05:23We will uh we will look into this and uh and and report back on on that with a plan.

2:05:29Yeah, uh going

2:05:29back

2:05:29again, you know Fifteen, twenty years ago. We never nobody here knew how fast that area was gonna grow, obviously. I get it, but this is one of those instances where we talk about, you know, have kind of trying to get the infrastructure in before all the development comes. It doesn't always happen that way. So now we're behind way behind. And if you e again, if you ever go out there and I driven it m on many occasions, uh it's it's getting pretty bad. Plus you have parks, you have schools

2:06:00along that area on Metapoint Boulevard as well. Um They're uh they're feeling the pain.

2:06:07Well what you know, as in all road projects When we try and move one in front of another, it impacts other things. So I just need to look at it in totality.

2:06:16Madam Chairman Just to kind of touch on, you know, as much as you know, growth was gonna come from the South going north. And Hillsborough County wanted to protect themselves up and down where they didn't get high growth. And what that led to was a very poor interconnection of traffic. Um they didn't care about what we were doing. That's why fifty four has been so dominated by traffic from the counties below us as well as us. Um I said a few years ago, I'll say it again, County Line Road to the north. This is something we really need to take a look at. I'm so delighted

2:06:46that our state legislature put it up there to get it funded. Hopefully the governor signs it because that'll be tremendous for Hernando and ourselves. But We're gonna need to take a look at what we're doing up there as well, because that growth issue that

2:07:00twenty years down the road and on the on the other side too. So it's something that all the way I think all the way from county line from let's say US nineteen all the way across, all the way to at least forty one, maybe going past all the way to seventy five. We need to take a close look at that, how we want that developed. And I'm talking about just about a half a mile down, but to mirror whatever Hernando's gonna do, we want to be able to do on the south side. Otherwise they get all the jobs and we get nothing on the other on the side of it. And we don't want to be on that position.

2:07:27And to jump on that um bandwagon, I would say um Trinity Boulevard. Um we have only two exits from West Pasco into Pinales County. We have US 19. And Trinity Boulevard that goes into East Lake. And it's it's frequently a six light cycle for people to get through that intersection. So we have these these pressure points that we need to look at. And again, that light is in another county.

2:07:52Right.

2:07:52Um so uh something that we have to work on together. But it's a problem when we don't I this is why I'm such a proponent of connectivity and And um if we had Mansfield open, you wouldn't have that problem over there.

2:08:06Yes, you would, because they don't go anywhere.

2:08:08Well I don't you know, I don't know those

2:08:10roads. But I there's nowhere to go for the p you gotta understand that'd just be going to another neighborhood.

2:08:14Well they

2:08:14don't

2:08:15that's not as poorly designed if they should have had some kind of grid system.

2:08:19Yeah.

2:08:19We sh we should have worked with Hillsborough to have connections between the two and and not put schools the way we did right on that road. I mean

2:08:28Yeah.

2:08:29Kind of a um formula.

2:08:31Yeah, uh unfortunately there's nothing we can do about it now because it's already done. Those those D RAs and PUDs were approved many, many, many years ago. Now we're at the stage. And forget you you can just take out the Hillsboro connection. I mean that's well actually kind of my least concern to be honest with you, because it's Pasco County's development that's going along Meadow Point Boulevard. I mean That's where the majority of the development is along there. Yes, there's gonna we know there's gonna be cars coming from Hills, bro. But the ma the majority of 'em are gonna be our current residents

2:09:01that tr traverse up Meadow Point Boulevard. So I just think we need to look closer at it. Again, we can bring it up and have a discussion at the um MPO. What I like to do is we'll get a we'll get a count, we'll work with staff and the team members, we'll get a count of currently how many homes are in that area, how many multifamily apartment um complexes, townhomes, the whole nine yards, as well as what's in the work. and bring that back to let you guys know how many people are using that two lane right.

2:09:29Yeah, so I guess you would use transportation impact fee from that zone to fix roads in that area. So

2:09:36And they're coming in because they're building

2:09:37like crazy.

2:09:40I don't know what else is out there though. So there's really when you think about that, um in the

2:09:44city, Epperson.

2:09:45Well I am that's pretty far

2:09:47away.

2:09:51It's not even the same district.

2:09:52Yeah.

2:09:53No, I'm in district two.

2:09:55It's not district two.

2:09:56But it's not in the same commission district, is what I'm saying.

2:09:59No, no, I'm not I'm talking about impact transportation impact fee.

2:10:02Yeah.

2:10:02Which is where you get the money to fix the

2:10:04Well you also have to look at what came first and Metal Points and all these things were there before the other ones. So they take care of the people that have been there the longest.

2:10:11Yeah, it's in the east zone.

2:10:13Yeah, so you use the transportation impact fee money in the east zone to fix problems like that.

2:10:19Correct.

2:10:19That

2:10:20is

2:10:20for capacity related projects. You can't you can't take from our impact fee money. to fix your zone. So Well I could.

2:10:29I'll just get the boat to do it.

2:10:35You can only really take from Commissioner Or's district. Yeah, you can't do it. It's the adjacent district.

2:10:44No. To be clear, Commissioner, there is a limited amount of mobility fees you can take from other districts, but it's very limited. Now, however, the second local option, gas tax, can be spent countywide, and that is also used for

2:10:56That's our pothole money.

2:10:57No, first local option. The second local option is for capacity improvements.

2:11:02Anyways, we'll bring it back. We'll look into it. I'll work with the team. We'll bring back some numbers for you.

2:11:07So you can take from one of your other projects and move it over to that project.