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Connected City one-year moratorium motion

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The county’s agenda for Planning Commission, Jan 9, 2025

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The county’s minutes for Planning Commission, Jan 9, 2025

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Moody

your next motion, John? I'd move to recommend to the Board of Commissioners that there be a moratorium imposed in Connected City for one year while we figure out how to implement land development regulations that better achieve the goals. I'll second that.

GreyChair

Okay, we have a motion and a second. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Can I just get

GirardiVice Chair

clear can I can I get a clarity on the motion? Is it the recommendation to is it a moratorium on new rezoning in Connected City or a complete moratorium on the I

Moody

want to change the land development code, so that would be a moratorium on development in Connected City.

GirardiVice Chair

So that would include site plan approval, site plan approval,

Moody

building permits. Yes, sir. Everything. Yes. Well we fix the land development.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

So so really we're we're we're recommending that the board uh adopt a moratorium.

GreyChair

Right.

Okay. Just in connected city. In connected city, correct.

Joel

Yeah. Yeah.

GreyChair

Okay, can we have a roll call vote, please?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Jamie Girardi?

GreyChair

No.

Christopher Bull. John Moody?

Hi.

Happy once? Derek Ronlitz?

Aye.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Chris Williams?

GreyChair

Hi.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Chairman Charles Gray.

GreyChair

Aye.

GirardiVice Chair

So David Ingall and Terry you're gonna have to figure out how to best convey that recommendation to the Board County Commissioner Oakley.

Well, I I don't know if you're gonna have to just do an agenda item to the board because I d uh I'm not sure it makes sense to tie it to this particular application because it sounds like the concern is beyond this particular application.

David Engel

Definition as to what the con moratorium constitutes? Is it future site plan submittals?

GirardiVice Chair

This I ever I just th that's the question I just asked. The mesh the motion was a complete moratorium. It it was new rezoning, new site plans, new building permits, any further development in Connected City.

David Engel

But it wouldn't affect what was already permanent.

GirardiVice Chair

No, it would. That's why I asked the question.

Moody

What I'm trying to get at is that I think we need a year pause since they limited to a year. For somebody to go back and fix the land development code. Have workshops, fix the land development code as it as it affects Connected City. It has its own special land development code to address the issues. I think the public has legitimate concerns. We've got this whole issue of

district parks and whether there was trails that were supposed to be there and you know So there needs to be some clarity.

David Engel

No, I I understand that.

GirardiVice Chair

But I I understand Mr. Ingalls' reservation and I can explain it a little better. Okay, so by you applying it to everything, including building permits, that means that even poor Mrs. Smith who happened to buy a lot in Maraudah Who was about to to build her home is not going to be able to get a building permit because of that moratorium. So historically the board has not applied moratoriums to that late stage of development where you have sort of innocent third parties that are not the developer

that are now being held up because of that moratorium.

David Engel

So is this for opted in projects or projects that have are are opted out? For example, Pasco Town Center is the in the connected city employment area. They didn't opt in and they just put in the problem. See Mr.

Moody

Engel, therein lies the problem.

David Engel

We're gonna have a

Moody

special planning area, but you can maybe be in it and you can maybe not.

David Engel

Well wait a second. That I I think that's not the context of the question. The context of my question is They already installed in reliance on their approvals a hundred million dollars worth of road infrastructure and are in process building a building. You're gonna telling me that they should halt that all that construction?

Moody

Well that was a rec that was a recommendation to the board. They can choose to go with the recommendation or they can choose not to go with the recommendation. And those are things that I'm sure all of the property owners in Connected City will be coming out there squawking them at squawking about them at. But I also hear a lot of residents out here Complaining. That they got. Sold they get sold a pretty picture. And they didn't get it? They

they're not getting a park. They're not getting these nice buildings. We got a big distribution center coming.

GirardiVice Chair

So And I just wanted to clarify uh this this is your motion. Okay, uh see you could and you all voted I just wanted to make sure that Mr Engels on the same page about what the motion entails. So The motion is a complete moratorium within the Connected Cities Special Planning Area for a period of time for us to develop new land development regulations.

Moody

My intent was that we don't process any site plan approvals, we don't do any more rezoning.

GirardiVice Chair

Okay, that's why I asked you the question, because there's a big difference between

Moody

No, I

am

not trying to stop Mrs. Smith who's already bought a lot in Maratha. Maratha's done. It's or it's a done deal.

GirardiVice Chair

Okay, so probably you need to remake your motion. You want a moratorium on new rezoning and site clan approvals? Within the connected city planning area until we've developed these land development regulations. Is that more accurate?

Moody

That would be a more accurate statement, yes.

GirardiVice Chair

Okay. Let's do let's do that as a new motion. So mountain.

Chris Williams

And I second it. I second it before I'll second that.

GreyChair

Okay. Um motion is made. Any further discussion of the motion? Not. All in favor? Signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, like, sign? Aye. All right. Motion carries.

Connected City

That was Mr. Jorrari, it was

Do we need to revote to rescind that one or not?

GirardiVice Chair

Let's do a motion to res to rescind Mr. Moody's prior motion.

GreyChair

I'm in favor? Uh

GirardiVice Chair

uh.

Yeah, yes.

Okay, so getting back to my original question, Mr. Ingle or Mr. Pitos, is this something you would just put on as like a separate agenda item to the board?

David Engel

Well I'm gonna discuss that with the county administrator first. That's the path forward is how we're gonna present it to

GirardiVice Chair

the what you all do with the recommendation is up to you and the county administrator. Or you could say we don't agree with it. But since they made a motion, I think you need to s present it to the board somehow.

David Engel

No no I I agree.

GirardiVice Chair

Okay.

David Engel

Regardless of my feelings about it, I'm gonna present it. So once the clerk Issues uh a draft um record of this meeting and has a precise language in that motion, I'm gonna present it to the county administrator and ask how I can convey it to the Board of County

GirardiVice Chair

Commissioners.

David Engel

Play

on the tape?

GreyChair

Roll the dates.

GirardiVice Chair

Well I think it should be probably some like a regular discussion item for the board so they don't But you put it however you and the county administrator decide to put it as long as it gets to the board somehow.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

No, she wrote that off.

GirardiVice Chair

Okay. I think we're done with that item, right? Yeah.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Okay. You leave it. Okay. Okay, uh Liam, is there one more item?