PC nine Little Road Landings preliminary development plan

55:25Are we ready, Denise? Yeah. Hello, Mr. Dunner. Ready. You ready? Ready. Okay. Call me to order again.

55:37All right. Uh Patrick Dutter.

55:42I'm holding. Uh Patrick Dutter, Planning and Development. I have uh two ex partees uh to hand to the clerk. Uh one other is forthcoming, the forthcoming one is from Commissioner Starkey. Okay, thank you.

55:53Mm-hmm.

55:58Okay, the first is uh PDD 230469 Little Road Landings Commercial PDP. Uh you'll be hearing an item just after this, which is an individual site plan within the commercial subdivision, but this first item is the subdivision itself. Uh so the proposal is a preliminary development plan application for a nine lot non-residential subdivision. Uh the existing condition of the site is mass graded. I'm sure we've all driven past it in the last uh year or so, so we're pretty familiar with where it is.

56:29Um Um so this is a little bit unique. You normally don't see preliminary development plans or preliminary site plans in front of you, but part of the original zoning condition at the time imposed by the board uh was they wanted to see site plans for this area come back for review by the board and recommendation from a planning commission for those plans. Uh so that's why I'm here in front of you today with the subdivision plan and then also with the site plan. Uh location we of course know where it is, northeast corner of the intersection of Little Road and Ross Lane.

56:59Here's our location map. uh context map um just just north of us so I think we're all pretty familiar. Zoning district as we can see it's C2. Uh AC is to the east. We have Little Road is to the uh west and uh the south is the Veterans uh Hospital to the north uh you know there's the Wendy's and the Lowe's just north of it. Um future land use

57:29uh we have comm designations surrounding it And this is what the preliminary development plan looks like. So this is showing the configuration of the lots, the access between the lots, access going north to the basically behind the Wendy's, as well as an access going out to Ross Lane and two potential access locations out to Little Road. Uh of course you're gonna see the stormwater ponds there as well. But this is the preliminary development plan.

57:59And of course the recommended action is approve the requested preliminary development plan application. And I'm here if you have any questions. Um the applicant and the applicant representative is here if you have any questions for them as well.

58:11All right. So the applicant's present.

58:25Good afternoon. Yes. Barbara Wilheite. Yes. I know I'm singing the back. Bad kids in the back. 8627 Graham Boulevard, uh, Newport Ritchie, 34652 for the applicant. So this is strange, haven't done this in a very long time. In the old days, the board used to condition rezoning and say, Well, it's when residents came, it's a great idea, we'll bring back the site plan to the board and the planning commission. Now it's playing out, we're like, Whoa, this is interesting. So um I don't know. I didn't see anybody signed up to speak, but

58:55but I guess we can respond. I mean I this is the opportunity for the citizens, I think the board's intent when they put conditions on was for for neighbors to come and ask questions or or express concerns. Obviously it's a it's a s it's a preliminary development plan. If it meets the criteria, it gets approved. Staffs would have already approved it by now and we'd be on our way. Um I would say that the only thing that's ever interesting when we meet with the neighborhood, we've met with the neighborhood on this client and I have a client Next door, Steven, I have a client next door that's will come before you

59:25as well. They always ask about the Ross Lane and um Little Road intersection. So this project is gonna partner with the c with the county and signalize that intersection. So I think maybe perhaps you don't see a lot of people here because we've met with them between these two projects and they know that that's in the works. So I have my team here. Let's maybe if you don't have any questions, see if anybody from the public actually has shown up. Um we'll go from there. Thank you. Okay.

59:51If we don't have any questions, we'll ask if there's anybody here from the public. Is there anyone here from the public that's here to speak on this item?

1:00:02Okay. I guess you've done a pretty good job.

1:00:05Well can I ask Barbara Patrick just one question?

1:00:10I don't know if anybody was even here in nineteen ninety eight that Still here, but me. I well I under Well

1:00:18I started working here in 1996.

1:00:23I mean traffic I understand why that was raised in nineteen ninety eight, but do you have any idea why somebody raised Buffering and noise, was there a particular use they were worried about?

1:00:33I think it's a a holdover from the lows. I think that these are the things that were expressed. with lows and so when this one was rezoned That would be my guess, my educated guess.

1:00:44But do you know what the uses will be currently that you're planning for any of these lots yet?

1:00:49No. Not specifically. I mean maybe the first well we're gonna s hear the site plan so they can explain what the site our first phase is in and you're gonna hear that next.

1:00:57That was gonna be my question too. Okay.

1:00:59But I really did this is just an holdover from these were the concerns that were raised I remember the Lowe's hearings that Steve Booth did um when I was here. And so Yeah,

1:01:11I was just wondering if anybody remembers what Use them. Because usually when you talk about noise and hours of operation, there's a particular use that

1:01:21And so I wasn't sure if the board was expecting us to do something related to noise or hours or operation for Some particular use.

1:01:30Yeah, I don't even know how you really could do that in any event under your code.

1:01:34If you can oppose you can condition a side plan approval, but I i it's pointless unless Somebody knows what we were trying to Condition. Condition. Like

1:01:46I mean were they worried about an all night bar or I don't know what I mean I don't know what

1:01:49We're not adjacent to the to the neighborhood. I mean we're on Little Road and then there's gonna be a residential project that's pending now. between us and any residences. So we're you know at uh

1:02:02I really don't know how this came to be. It's a little odd.

1:02:09Can I add because I I did read the transcripts because I was trying to figure out this condition and how we would because it doesn't happen often. So the residents who came out in opposition had issues, as Barbara was explaining, um, with the lows that was out there, and they were concerned that Um the type of b types of businesses that could potentially go in there would have like deliveries that would happen. like in in the early hours of the day and those back sounding beeps and things like

1:02:39that. So they had concerns with those types of things. So Steve Booth who represented this one as well basically said, Hey It it seemed like it wasn't gonna go in a good direction based on the concerns from the residents. So Steve Booth said, Well, we'll bring the site plans back so that there could be more more of a public process and bring the site plans back to back then it was the DRC and the and the Board of County Commissioners. So that was the conversations that were had as I read the transcripts to

1:03:12Mm-hmm. Okay. Thank you, Denise. You're welcome.

1:03:17Okay. So we have no one here from the public. The applicant is What can Okay, our motion.

1:03:27Drum roll, please.

1:03:30I'll move to approve item PC nine.

1:03:33I'll second it. We have a motion and a second. Further discussion on nine? All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, like, sign. Motion carries.