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continue this item till October tenth

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MarianoChair

We're going to continue the public hearing. Um

Do you want to come forward and and and speak? Please clear of the courtroom.

Thank you.

Patrick Plummer

So my name is Patrick Plummer. I work for Soho Builders Residential Commercial Project Sync and I reside at [address removed]. Uh we did negotiate with the homeowner on the right and um he's welcome to come up.

MarianoChair

I'll let I'll let you speak first and I'll maybe bring

Patrick Plummer

it. Um so we did negotiate um And

So we are asking for the appeal to be granted as is, without modification, based on what we've done to appease the neighbor And With the condition of adding the covert, which we've promised, the gutters and landscaping. And that's based on the substantial negotiations we do with the neighbor. Uh we filled. They they

were very fruitful.

MarianoChair

Would you state that again?

Patrick Plummer

Uh yes, we negotiated with the neighbor and so we're asking for the appeal to be approved with the sides and the front approved. With the conditions. That we fulfill our obligation to the neighbor. What was the negotiated the culvert to be added in the driveway? the gutters and downspouts and underground bubblers to direct the water flow to the street and a landscaping package.

MarianoChair

Okay. And and

Patrick Plummer

what about the setback from the garage? Um as we negotiate with the neighbor, they indicated we offered them two plans. One was substantially uh higher to completely remodel their kitchen um in its entirely kitchen.

MarianoChair

I'm worried about the garage

Patrick Plummer

in the setback intrusion five feet. Um so there so there's we would ask that if the if you are not inclined to approve it as is and grant us the setback, um with the conditions I just stated Um then there's an alternate uh request we're making where we are granted the side setbacks with the condition we modify the front of the garage back five feet.

MarianoChair

Okay.

Weightman

Thank you, Chair. I appreciate the the the neighbor here working, but bigger picture with the HOA representative.

What's with your community we kind of want to be in compliance with what your community and and uh e everybody as a whole here. That's the point of an H O A C D D. So we'll make sure whatever we all kind of collectively agree upon, everybody's aligned without any more negative impact. Yeah, no

Robert Stone

questions.

Um I can't approve anything that That's for the board of directors. Unfortunately, I'm like the county administrator. I am the tool belt that makes everything happen. I don't make the decisions.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Right. Yeah.

Robert Stone

I believe if he comes to the board meeting and d talks with the board that they might be able to come to an agreement. I think that that is a The best possible option for us is to have that meeting and have that discussion and and come to an agreement from there.

Weightman

So we want to make sure that Your commu we're just as close as we can be in compliance with your community standards. So

MarianoChair

Right.

Starkey

And you know, I I need Jeff's guidance on this, but and I don't know how far we can take it. But when I look at that house it doesn't look like any of the other houses in your neighborhood. It doesn't have And it didn't go through you guys. So it doesn't have the details that the other house has or the quality of landscaping. And so I would even go further and say I I think they need to add some architectural work to that front of that house. I mean, I went down the street on Google Maps.

The other houses have rock or brick or shutter. and some some tram Um there's nothing on this tax. I so I I would ask that you also Uh improve the aesthetics of that house with some architectural work. and absolutely landscaped the heck out of that front.

Robert Stone

Yeah, like Paget is just finished celebrating their fiftieth anniversary and we have some homes that are right about fifty years old and some that are only about five to ten years old, including this one which is now coming up on a year. So th there's a a w wide variety. Definitely of architectural styles.

Starkey

Yeah, uh but but there's no one that's like this one that has nothing. No landscaping and no architecture. That's true.

So I would ask the As much as I can. What can I ask?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Well I Based on the comments I'm hearing if If the board is concerned about the ultimate position of the homeowners association and whether they're gonna take action based on the setbacks, I would continue the item until your October tenth meeting to give Them time to to petition their bo the homeowners association and have an answer from them. Because other otherwise you're you're

sorta cutting the The rug out from under the The association.

MarianoChair

I think that that's great advice. So I think and we can help as far as talking about arch architectural standards we've done with new communities coming in, uh so that you can take a look at that. The setbacks at in the front I think are the most critical. you'll compromise with the neighbor being that you've encroached on his is coming to an agreement with him. So I would say make sure you have that agreement in place, have this setback so it goes back to the twenty five feet. Work in your architecture, work on the culverts, work on the landscaping, and bring that to us to what's

going to be done. And I think if we continue that with that attempt, uh we'll have to do that.

Starkey

Um Commissioner, I'm concerned if they if they change If they change the um facade of that house, you don't know what it's gonna look like and we could make something worse. And we don't want to make something worse for the neighborhood than what it is already.

Patrick Plummer

We'll come back with the recommendation from the HOA as to are they gonna accept it as it is but add architectural element. Landscaping, culvert, gutters, and making the neighbor happy.

Starkey

And I do have one question for you. Since are those windows dip permitted windows that you have in the house or did you I mean, are those legal?

Patrick Plummer

Um I'm not the builder, so I would have to go to the building department and ask them if um the size of the windows is something that needs to be revised. Um I could tell you that the lintel that goes over the windows doesn't change. Right. So I don't believe the height of the window um

Starkey

specifically I think I think you spec window openings and you didn't build what What I saw.

OakleyVice Chair

If that's a if that's a bathroom though, they that that's normal to have small windows of power.

Starkey

So you don't see

OakleyVice Chair

in the room.

Patrick Plummer

We could also submit a revision to reflect that.

OakleyVice Chair

So we're going to continue to win October.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

October tenth is your next Jade City meeting. Okay. I'd move we uh continue this item till October tenth. Second.

Starkey

Second.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Okay. One thir at 130. 130. Yeah.