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P67 Schrader 52CC MPUD zoning

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Kathryn Starkey

P sixty seven was advertised in the Tampa Bay Times on August twenty third, twenty twenty three.

Denise

B67 is PDD 247679. On this one, there's a couple of housekeeping items. On the agenda memo, the request is, and I'll read it into record, sorry. It's a zoning amendment, Schrader 52CC, M PUD, Master Plan Unit Development, Mary Burke and Thomas Schrader, a rezoning from an R1 Rural Density Residential District and AR Agricultural. Residential district to an MPD master plan unit development district to allow the development of 625 multifamily

units, and this is where we're adding a minimum of 106,286 square feet of commercial uses on approximately 57.49 acres. So that's being changed on the agenda memo, and then also the location of the project is being changed on the agenda memo it in advance.

Those corrections will be sent to um the clerk's office and um a corrected resolution has been sent to the clerk's office uh for the

Mike Moore

it was advertised it was advertised correctly.

Denise

It That's a really, really excellent question.

Ron Oakley

That's what

Denise

attorneys do. If my colleague Orlando Boris knows what the advertising stated, that would be fabulous. This is for our sixty-seven.

Kathryn Starkey

You know what? I'm seeing a restriction here. May I may I

I have a question on I'm just seeing it right now, I'm sorry, because I have just had a meeting with them. Um that says they're asking to not have to connect to the east and west. On the east I think is a road. No, west is a road. But on the east is this is own

Ron Oakley

fifty two.

Kathryn Starkey

Yeah, but on the east is property that will be developed. So I'm trying to figure out why we wouldn't

Ron Oakley

Miss Burke's property is east is like seventeen acres and and uh Schrader's property is forty acres. Well

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Commission they actually are connecting to the northeast.

Denise

Yeah, if you look at your

Unidentified speakerVoice A

after planning commission they changed their plan to connect to the northeast. So they are connecting to the northeast.

Kathryn Starkey

North east.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

To the vacant piece of property to the northeast there now.

Kathryn Starkey

Well I know we talked about a trail. So there there will be a road connecting to the north?

Unidentified speakerVoice A

There will be a roadway connection to the northeast, correct.

Kathryn Starkey

So So does that need to be changed? Because it says right here in the front.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Well it said that they were originally requesting to not interconnect to the east, but That was their original request, but they have modified their request and they are now connecting to the northeast.

Mike Moore

It says south of State Road fifty two. Yeah. That's correct.

Denise

That's correct.

Ron Oakley

Yeah, it that's where the property is. Okay.

Denise

Yeah. Thank you for the

property.

For showing that. Correct.

Kathryn Starkey

Okay. No, I'm trying to see where that connection is. Was

Ron Oakley

it advertised correctly?

Denise

It was advertised correctly for the record. Yes. Thank you so much. I I do want to mention um for the commissioners as well, I know that's very important to you, uh condition of approval number seventy-four does talk about the Liv Local Act. So that is included in this CCMPV where they will be having commercial uses on here.

Kathryn Starkey

Can you just um put up just real quickly where the where the connection is gonna be? 'Cause I'm trying to see it and I don't I don't have a map that shows it.

Ron Oakley

The larger piece on the on the west side is uh Tom Schrader's. The other one is Ms. Burke.

Orlando Borraz

Um I believe that the question was where is going to be located the the access point to the east?

Kathryn Starkey

Yes. Because it's it says in the front that they were requesting no interc the applicant requests not to interconnect to the west and east sides of the property.

Orlando Borraz

Which is right over here. And the connection in this cut in I mean in question right now it's this one over here. The one over here is going to be only for emergency access. And that's going to be also functional for pedestrian, bike, and golf carts.

Kathryn Starkey

So why would we have only one entrance for 628 people? Am I missing something?

Orlando Borraz

This one over here, this one over here too, and then we have another

Kathryn Starkey

road.

Orlando Borraz

Oh the

Kathryn Starkey

Okay, so where how do the people get in and out of this property?

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yeah. Yeah, for new Brad Tippin, Planning and Development. Uh there are a number of access. We're not at the design stage yet on this, so we don't know exactly where they'll be, but there the road that they're building, the north-south road there that you see on the west of the property, there will be access points there. There's uh likely uh there's also an internal road that will run east-west on the south side of this property. Uh that's the one that will uh go towards the actual city of San Antonio. Antonio and it stops there. That's over there on the right-that will be the immersive access. But the the actual

vehicular access is going to connect to that northeast piece. That's kind of that. uh piece that's out in the middle of nowhere that really needs the connections, it needs to have the golf carts and everything else to get in there. So uh so you have a pointer

Kathryn Starkey

to tell me what are you talking about the arrow to the

Okay, so there's Oak Street, so it'll

Unidentified speakerVoice B

connect to

Kathryn Starkey

right there where my pointer

Unidentified speakerVoice B

is. Yeah. Is essentially where that northern connection will be. Again, we are that uh northeastern connection. Uh again, we don't know exactly because it hasn't been fully designed out yet. There's a wetland right there that we need to do the engineering, navigate around, different things like that. Uh but there will be a connection in that direction. Everything else that is to the east. is City of San Antonio. Uh so we are trying to limit the amount of uh traffic into that area because it's not

designed really to handle it yet, uh but it is going to be an emergency uh type of access over there on that side.

Ron Oakley

On the east side.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

On the east side.

Kathryn Starkey

So so there'll be one access right now to the north on fifty two for six hundred and twenty eight people. And one one when the Vision Road is built, so

Unidentified speakerVoice B

two? Well the the Vision Road, yeah, the this project will access the Vision Road and from there they can go north or south.

Ron Oakley

So you got an an exit In the basic on the center on the fifty two and also the vision road you have an exit there?

Kathryn Starkey

Uh I'm sorry. I just want to make sure there's only there's more than one in and out for 628 people. Yeah.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

So we'll

Kathryn Starkey

we'll need to do

it.

Besides an emergency. I'm talking two full

Unidentified speakerVoice B

in and

Kathryn Starkey

outs.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Again, this hasn't been designed yet. So as part of the engineering design, they have requirements that they have to meet regarding the number of access points. So our code is pretty clear on that. That's part of

Ron Oakley

the conditions.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yeah, it that's it's in the conditions of approval. part of our our traditional code so it'll it'll be there.

So they don't have the design.

Kathryn Starkey

And we met on the trail um because there is a there is a re a a multi use path And eight mul a wide trail that goes along with this property. And um and it will be built From the Sun Belt Trail. Going north north. Well it's a it's part of the it is part of the connected city planned trail network, according to Terry Pito's, what he showed me at lunch uh this morning. Branch back.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yes, uh I can show that real quick on here, maybe if this works today. Um down here along the south side there is a trail that is identified in the Connected City financial plan um for a trail system. Uh this property is going to uh have an east-west roadway right along their south boundary that is gonna accommodate the carts and everything there as well. So but I'm talking about the north south boundary. And the north-south one uh yes will come

Oops, wrong button. One of those days. Uh the north-south one will come somewhere right around the same location as this uh wetland. This uh along the edge of the wetland. So again, we haven't engineered it yet, but it'll be somewhere in that area uh going up into that uh northeast parcel to make sure that they have connection to a trail system also.

Kathryn Starkey

Okay. And then and then the path, multi-use path, goes on the vision road.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Right, within the vision road, within the right-way.

Kathryn Starkey

Which is different than the trail. Yes. Okay.

Mike Moore

And Brad, the the conditions of approval cover this or is staff adding language for So this

Unidentified speakerVoice B

is actually as being part of Connected City they're required to do this. Okay. Uh so we didn't we didn't opt them out of that through the conditions of approval?

Ron Oakley

Okay.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Yeah.

Ron Oakley

Okay.

And tree

Kathryn Starkey

and trees in the street, which can be nice.

Ron Oakley

It's a public hearing. Um Is anyone here? Anyone here to speak against this item? Seeing no one, we'll leave that on consent. Move on to um