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attorney office. That part of the meeting. But then we have uh Commissioner Yeah. Our old business.
I'll wait. I thank you, Chair. I I used my live local time earlier today. All right. Well I I
agree. I have a list because I didn't go last time. So um first um and I think Jack has brought this up before. I was at well, do you have a photo thing for me? I don't know what maybe I'll go by the photo order.
Well while you're teeing that up, um I learned this when there is a court ordered eviction, the property owner is putting their belongings and trash in the right of way. Um they're being instructed to do this and then code compliance gets called for a tr for trash. And then public works has to come and clean it up. So and this is being paid for by the taxpayers. I don't have a photo of this. Um, but we need to have some kind of procedure. that
is when there is an eviction the cost goes on the property owner and not on the on the county to clean up whatever their tenant has left behind.
Right. Um
Why wouldn't it be illegal dumping? And why wouldn't why wouldn't we go after them for under a vo violation of section four oh
ask our code people we we go and have public works go clean it up So
I
have
a lot of experience with this. A lot. Not in Pasco, uh I'll say in northeast Florida. And uh during certain months, uh move ins and move outs with renters, people can't afford to pay the rents, landlord evicts them. And it's full households of people's belongings at the curb. And there's this constant battle of who who picks it up. Who pays for it? Does the Holler eat
the cost? Is there funds, grant funding out there to pay for it? And the solution to that was with these these rentals and he's moved in and moves out. the onus of that needs to be on the landlord. And that landlord can factor that Potential risk. into their rates and into their deposits. And that's the easiest and cleanest solution and you know how to come after 'em to get it cleaned up. So that's
So we need to fix ours.
Okay. Um Commissioner Weightman can you can you Mr. Chairman Mariano?
Yeah,
so that's up in the city of Jacksonville. It's all a waste. Uh
that was an easy one. Or yellow? Uh no. Um Okay, uh I'll go on to uh the second one. Um so we had uh uh an incident at one of our parks where a child was I think it was at Starkey actually. A child was kicked in the chest with a ball, you know, a ball hit them and they had a heart stoppage. Uh and there was there there was no access to the AED. So uh we need to be looking at what's going on at our parks
with AEDs.
And most of our parks do have AEDs at their concession areas, but um in this particular instance, you know, we'll we'll continue to look in and make sure that we were getting them there at all parks. I think it's also just a matter of knowing where they are. Yeah. I don't know. And
making sure they're accessible if there isn't a park employee there. And I don't I don't know, you know, that's scary because then you could have Vandals doing something, but I don't know. I don't know how that works but parents have come to me about that. Um So Jack, this was your rotary. You weren't you weren't there that day, but um the um the New Port Richey Rotary Rotary Club. has gone all in on our international economic development efforts
and just our international Relationships and um up here on the left is the CEO of Miapta. And why do I always forget his name? Um He's the MIOPTA's a Czechoslovakian company, but he's German and it his name is escaping me right now and he's part of my International Economic Development Council here in the county. And Um he went to Gemmersheim, which if you remember, there are sister city county Um or Friendship County
or whatever. and uh visited their rotary. and their rotary came and visited the New Port Riche Rotary. a couple of weeks ago and we have two students who have come from Gemmersheim. and are interning in the county. And one of those gentlemen is at our animal facilities. And the other one actually is interning with with him at Miopta. And uh We um we want to continue this opportunity and strengthen
it. River Ridge used to send German students over. to Gamersheim and Gamersheim sent students here, but River Ridge has discontinued their German program, so there are there is no German program anymore in the county. But New Port Richey Rotary is picking up on this. So um we I just they invited me to the presentation presentation. I think it's wonderful and I think we should keep up these international relationships and build more. And send and we're
gonna send some of our students over there. And they're gonna work uh in in the businesses in Gammersheim and they're gonna send more here. So we're gonna hear more about that. Is it Reinhardt? Yeah, Reinhart. Reinhart. So okay, what's next?
And I'm Commissioner Starkey I'm a big fan of that.
Yeah, no, it's great. Yeah, and we need uh we need to expand that to other places. Um so I was just at the NACO Board of Directors meeting in um Minneapolis. Uh and um I know I was sending Mike and David Engel lots of pictures from the different um meetings that I attended. Uh we did a field trip to 3M. And um which was is an amazing
company. I had no idea. Um Minnesota Mining and Uh manufacturing. That's what 3M stands for. Um they have S well they've used a lot of their ARPA money and they've they're doing a lot of pilot programs for youngsters getting them career minded. And um Brookings Institute actually has partnered with them and they have a permanent they have someone there for a couple of years from Brookings working on them
with this. Um I have a lot more of these slides, but they have really taken kind of what we've done with our utility program with an AM skills where we do the boot camp and then the the students go and work for a number of weeks in the summer and get paid. They've kind of blown that up into all the different departments. So I have some information on that and um I'll be meeting with staff on you know how we can work with our youth. um and get them to be looking at what it's like
to have these municipal county jobs and help um train our workforce. And they also have something called the um
I don't know.
And apparently in our high schools that kids don't take Driver's Ed anymore. Yeah, it's online. I don't know how you learned to c drive a car online. Um but in in Hennepin County, this county, they decided that's one of the big uh biggest uh impediments to some of their youth getting good jobs. was n no access to a driver's license. S or and so they've come up with this dri driver's license academy and partnered with um It's kind of a public private
partnership and I'm gonna I'm d we're gonna bring that to to you guys too and they've they've been getting students and and they use a county car to take the driver's license test and they get their driver's license and then they can go get jobs where they can drive. Or and maybe they're driving the company car. So it's helped a lot of kids get um get cars. Okay, what else do I have in there? Is that it? Okay. Okay, that's so that's that's what I did on the I already did the MPUD
one that I wanted to do. Um
Yeah, so that's it for me, I guess. Oh no, freebie. I wanna continue this discussion. Of these microtransites. programs that are out there and this I got I picked these up at the fact meeting Um And The more and more counties and cities a across the state are doing these microtransit um programs. We started it with David Engel, then the guy who was running our transit killed his program. When we could have had a f a grant from Ford. and um
took it and never did anything with it. So I really, really want us to be looking at um, you can see some of the logos on on the back here. Pass those down. Uh but it w what it is is in a certain geographical area. For free you just have the app, you just call up the car and it'll come and take you anywhere within that geographical area. And it I think they said it cost thirty five dollars an hour. So what that can do for families. uh and and
kids needing to get somewhere is tremendous. And it's a a really good service and I wanna continue that one. Yep,
I am now done. That's a good thing 'cause we're getting closer to five thirty.
Yeah. Um
twenty seven minutes. And the rest of them still gotta go. So I may or may
not be here to listen to her. Okay.
Okay. You'll sound confident, Sonia.
Oh, you're talking about Mariano. Yeah, she's got some pictures of it. She's pulling up a video. A bit you.
Oh wait, I
have this. We gotta set the studio. Wait a minute. This is at Lake Lisa Park. Park.
Oh, is this the groundbreaking?
This is this is this is no, it's after the groundbreaking. This is Marcy with her.
Oh yeah, and you sit down and see what goes on.
Oh
wow.
This is like the one we did at Western Chapel. Yeah. Oh wow. We used we you know, I helped put one in in New Port Richey but they took it out. At the uh Sims Park. With all children.
This is what it's like to be in a uh earthquake, Alana. Earthquake
Yeah.
Yeah,
that's
awesome. That's good.
Yeah,
No, no we game. Okay. I love it.
No.
Mm-hmm.
Whee.
Mm-hmm.
She likes
it though.
I mean you see equipment. Well more? But if you see your channel usually just move.
And there aren't very many options if you don't have this kind of equipment. There's like zero.
Yep, we had those swings, the Sims part.
Marcia would tell the story when she did the groundbreaking that she would always sit in the chair and just watch everyone else play and not get to play herself. Yeah. So what that did for her and that family is gonna be great. All the families around. So I think I think if Marcy comes in with a few more of these projects, you're gonna know why. Yeah. So look for 'em. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
We had opened the we did the opening of the senior games. I'm not sure what's coming up next. Well that's just Hudson Beach. That was another option which you could use for two million dollars.
But we're working on grants for that. Maybe we'll get a grant. So this is the sign that was in my uh office for six months. So they put it up the other day on F D O T, so thank you F D O T to working with us uh to getting that done.
Oh
is that why F D O T was in my parking space the other day?
They
said they were picking up a sign. So as mu so as much as I thought I would have now room in my office, I think you also would call India with all the rum cakes, so I don't quite have to put my my space back. Um this is a project uh we've all seen it asphalt paving systems, the spray jack technology. Uh we've seen results on it. DOT's working on it. Brantford's working with DOT right now. Um In the bid that we put out We have an extra we have a line in there for a motion. And that's the only extra
charge there is. to do the Bruce B. Downs project. That's a mile long. I really want you guys to hear me. It's a mile long, six lanes. The only extra cost is ninety two hundred dollars. Now picture you're gonna get a tack that goes down without trucks driving over it. When the seams go to connect these lanes together, they get sealed as well. So for $9,200, Secretary DOT, I think Justin, told me they're willing to go give it a trial run to
see how this works. We've done the numbers, our coefficients have worked to show that it works as a better better bond. So I don't know Brantford if you need a motion, as I told you I was gonna bring this forward to the board, to spend the ninety two hundred dollars. Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna uh I'm gonna put a motion that we use on the Bruce B. Downs project um to use the extra emotion at ninety Up to ten grand, I'll just say, 'cause I think it's ninety two or ninety four, uh, to do
that technology on that project.
Second.
Okay. We've got a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you all very much. And I hope you'll
hope we'll get a chance to go see you. Thank you. Okay.
Sorry, I was gonna ask for some clarification. This is an F D O T job and we're contributing ten thousand dollars to this or I think
it's Rs.
No,
this is
This is ours. Yeah, we we're gonna do it in December. We pushed it to January, so now they can get it done in time.
Okay.
All right, so we did the Florida Senior Games opening at the Sarah Sarah Vanderburgh Tennis Center. Great turnout. Um We had a Great kickoff. The weather was perfect. There's a nice picture of all the people there. We even had the secretary uh of Elder Affairs come down, uh Ann Marie Winters, you see she's there as well. And some of our participants have been in Todd Vandenberg there and Steve Simon as well. Adam Thomas was there on his team. But uh did a great job kicking off and it's rolling right now. You know what the number one sport is for us?
Pickleball.
Pickleball. Big time. Pickleball's uh and what I found out was one lady that was there came up to me afterward, he goes, You know, you're just the person I wanna talk to. Because we don't do senior games here like they do in Penellas County and all over the state. We need to do our own senior games going through. So I want to get Parks and Rec to work with the tourism to kinda go through it and uh see if we can make those games happen. And I'm happy to work on work with them on that. All right.
To clarify for you, the seven homes that are on the left side Those are all built Yeah. The properties to the side they're in the blue. contiguous parts, et cetera, and side by side. When you raise those properties up, you can only go so high depending what's next to it. If you get more properties beside it you can do more? So depending on what comes in. Um I think the next next slide's gonna show you to the other side of uh Venduran. Now the gentleman or the company that bought
all these other l land properties together here, he's got a much better pl chance where he's got eight properties, nine properties altogether, to raise them up even higher and have them pitch a little bit. So I'm gonna say that w I would love to see staff Go take a look at the dirt we had at Tim Brooks that we brought down there. Cut the cost down. And start looking at okay, where can we go put this? Do we want to go put this? I think everybody would accept it, but That dirt that we use in the first seven lots that are over there, especially in the three on the back side of Endurin.
They couldn't build until we put that fill in. Same thing's gonna happen with these here. And the cheaper we make it the better, uh, especially cutting our cost down. And they may even be able to use that fill. If they're gonna raise those sewer lines up as said. All all down Leisure Lane and Vanduras are running the water and shore. Could save us a whole bunch of money.
But those properties I see in red, is that the ones you're gonna raise the lots?
Those are the ones that we used to own. Hab Habitat wanted to give us back to us. And now this company called Kara, Karya Uh I don't know who they are. We looked at them a little bit, but I don't know who they are yet. but they bought those properties there. So they're gonna do something. It may be good for them to even like take
a bigger hand in it. All right, those those are the properties They're above those you know squ red squares. Are they gonna be Lower than these properties here? They're well
they're they're all pretty much the right now they're all they're all the same level.
But any anyone that puts uh gets a building permit for a house on there has to have it raised to the new FEMA flood levels. Yeah when they when they build up, yes. Those
those
are vacant lots
right now. Right.
Okay.
So they're all vacant lots,
all been closed. They
have houses
on them. They've already been raised up? No, they haven't. If you raise these others up, that's gonna create a problem. That's what I'm
saying. This is
the comprehensive
plan. We need to put the whole thing through. That's why I was trying to get that done from the get go.
Yeah.
So again, I think we should go take a look if we could, Mike. Let's go study what the Timber Oak's project was. There's areas where they were able to take Phil? I think it's on record.
Okay.
And then we can just be ready to like how much quantity we think is there because As they were gonna sell that dirt was supposed to drive the cost down? The market at that time it didn't let them sell all the dirt so they just covered it over. So there's good quality dirt that we could use. What?
Is that all yeah? Is that all I have? Okay. So you have uh so let me just say one thing. So I was trying to like That last hearing with the Lynx. Again I I'm hearing changes, I'm seeing changes and then I'm trying to like get answers and I wasn't getting them today. Right. So what I found out as I was walking to the back I was telling I was going to talk to Lady at the Fairway Oaks that I want to get with the board as quick as possible. They got a meeting coming up on Tuesday where they elect the new board members, but I want to get with them, get with the people to go find out what's you
know w what the issue is 'cause I think If they're willing to cut the trees out, and if that was their holdup, which I think it was, but I don't know. Um I think we can put this thing forward in a good way for everybody. So I'm gonna meet with them as quick as I can. I think it's Tuesday they're gonna go, so I'll go after the board meeting we'll talk and this way I'll have all the people there too so we can talk about it. But The developer told me at the back of the room, he's willing to take 'em out. So there's no issue. So I'll try to meet with the others too, talk it through. Maybe if I could get
the stormwater crew roy. Let's go out there. I want to go out there with them. Let's go look at it, talk about it. I'll find those pictures that I I've taken before because I've taken them several times. But we'll go out there, let's go look at it, talk about it, and then we can talk to the people. And again, if it means frankly that we gotta take those trees out but wanna go put in like a cypress tree or something else, which is better, which will soak up and stay in a long term affair, that may be a better way to go. Okay. But thank you all.
That's all right. Mr. Kabala?