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So nobody on WebEx? All right. So this time we'll close public comment and we'll move on to the consent agenda.
And on the I've got a pool sheet, uh C17. is pull and discuss C28. Pull and discuss. C thirty nine. Pull and discuss. C forty two pull. C forty three, pull, C forty six, pull, Courtney. Starting over, I guess. C5, uh
pull and revise. C eight, pull and revise. C20 withdraw. C thirty-eight withdrawal. C41 withdrawn. Uh C44 was drawn. Are there any other items that the board wishes to pull at this time from the consent? If not, I'll entertain a motion. With the remainder
consent agenda.
Okay. I got a motion. Second. And a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Okay, we'll start with uh C sevente pull and discuss.
Thank you, Mr Chairman. When going over this item with the County Administrator was brought up to Is this a mandatory fee? Do we get to look at what we're getting for coverage? Um and I didn't have the details but maybe we got some more details today.
Hi, Amy Farrell Budget Director with the Office of Management and Budget here in Pasco County. Um so to answer your first question, yes, this is an unfunded state mandate. Uh Florida statute 406.08 is where um local governments are instructed to fund the medical examiner. So we could one option we would have would be to have a medical examiner dedicated to Pasco. County but we contract with the one in Penellas and that we have found that's actually saved us some money over time.
And Commissioner Weightman, you had to pulled the two, so
I did. Commissioner Starkey says this is this is the first time. A double
pull.
Okay. Right out of the gate. For your question. I just Well I saw it, I just I guess similar to Commissioner Mariano, I mean Do we have two million dollars worth of deceased folks that we are responsible for in Pasco County, or are we offsetting some of Pinella's costs? That's just that's just a lot of money and that's a lot of folks. And I don't think I hope we don't.
So
it is just our deceased. Um and then So it's those who pass in Pasco County. If they pass somewhere else, uh it's that local jurisdiction's responsibility. Um if they pass in a jail, let's say that's not owned by the county but run by, I don't know, Zephyrhills Zephyrhills pays that fee, so it's just County people passing in Pasco County and depending on what jail it might be our
cost, it might not be our cost.
And they could live they could live someone else, but if they pass an discounted that money's for that.
Right. And so to give you some from a work quantity standpoint, so I pulled the July invoice. There were forty-three autopsies, seventy-eight cases, four hundred and twenty-four cremation approvals, forty-four scene responses, sixty-two transports, twenty-eight body pouches. Please don't ask me what that is. I'll I can do some research, but I don't know off the top of my head. Uh 261 lab exams and 42 x-rays. that the medical examiner performed for Pasco County.
Do we have a breakdown if these are visitors, residents, inmates? I just two million dollars is a lot and that's a lot of folks. I mean, the statistics you just read obviously are what they are. I just bit perplexed by by the number and how to how to budget for that. Um I mean I don't like this rule anyway, with you know, someone's in Hillsboro and they're up here visiting and something happens to them, our taxpayer has to foot the bill. Um
I don't know how we Maybe.
The same happens if one of our
residents are down. Right, or wherever. I just think it's a I just think it's a silly rule. Some some areas have more visitors than others, right? And so I could just see, you know, more people, more issues, more more chances of issues, so Okay.
Mr. Chairman M and part of the heartburn, you've you and you've all heard me say, you know, we talk about how dangerous US nineteen is pedestrian crossings or peop people getting killed. And I've asked, you know, do we do autopsies to find out if people are on drugs or whatever the case may be? We can never get that information, but I still gotta pay a two million dollar bill. So I wouldn't mind continuing this and do more inform get more information on it. Um it is a very high number. It's grown up steadily, but if there's a way to we can find a way to cut back to what's going on with it, um I'd rather take I'd take a look
unless we're bound by time we have to do this today.
Can that be done?
I so what's before you today is an amendment to the fee schedule. So the contract would still be in place if we didn't approve it. It would be with the current fee schedule and I can reach back out to the medical examiner and get some more information for you. Well
move to continue two weeks.
Second.
Got a motion second. Uh all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passed 5-0. Thank you, Amy. Next is C twenty eight
pulling Discuss? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The reason I pulled this item is I heard about this project coming up through the estuary how was gonna be great for us. Um when I look at the numbers, it's a lot. Higher expense than I thought we were gonna have to pay. Um even the total bill is higher than I thought. Um you know the grant funding from One part of it's one hundred and seventy, the next part's hundred and fifty. And then we've got a Put in 179 on top of that and 71 for design and
permitting. We got a grant from the POT 2 money, the BP Restore Act money, for eight point five million dollars. The first set of funding in that they started out with the uh in Tampa at the Bay itself with some affiliate boxes. Um I just talked to Maya from the estuary as I saw this item um this morning and I don't think it's a hurt to delay this a little bit. Maybe we can talk about it a little bit more, but If I can avoid spending two hundred and fifty thousand dollars of
Pasco County money and if the project gets delayed a year or two, I'm okay with that. It might even save the estuary some money for other things they can do with the money. Uh there is a time constraint on these two grants that they have. But again, if it's an allocation from the consortium where they can get the whole thing and paid for. So uh we might be able to save two hundred fifty grand for our taxpayers. And if you could talk more to it then.
Hi everyone, I'm Jonah Mick, Environmental Manager for the Environmental Division of Public Works here in Pasco County. Um there would be no significant issues on our end to delay for a couple of weeks. Um you know, obviously we uh you know in order to stay on schedule, we wouldn't be able to delay too long. Um but it's in terms of the grant, I don't think that would be an issue. Um we will have to have some discussions with the STRA program about uh what other funding sources. may be available. Um I think the uh restore money that you're referencing would be under their purview
to distribute so we'll have to see kind of how that works out with uh with with their their timelines and their plan.
Well I'm comfortable with the purview of their their taking a look at it because frankly it was my idea pushing this thing forward. It's something where the estuaries have joined together uh is a with a coastal component now. So I am not worried about getting the money from that pot. Um like I said there would be a little delay to it, but I think it it's worth taking a look at. So I'll move to continue two weeks uh on the item. Okay, I got it. Motion.
Um under discussion, Commissioner Oakleyano, I did go to the event where we had the box that that was it, right? And the amount of junk that was from one side of the water to the other was amazing. So I hope I do think it's a worthwhile project. So I hope we find a way to continue.
So if I could, on that one there was a tubity barrier. Uh that was a different type of grant. Oh yeah the
baffle box.
This yeah, this this uh baffle box has got three different containers to it.
Yeah
that take the sediments, but then inside it's got a container just like the other one where it takes all the trash ahead of time.
Yeah. And I've seen, you know, living on the water I see the effects of not catching all that stuff.
I hate the duly, but I wanna I wanna make sure we explore this quickly. If we can save the money then I wanna save the money.
Okay, have a motion and a second. How do you All those in favor? Uh-huh.
Oh you did? Oh I thought I said
We got two seconds, but uh Ms. Yeager a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passed five zero. Move on to um C thirty nine to pull and discuss.
Mr. Chairman, I just want to say this is a program, a long, long time coming. Great, great to see it up. It's gonna help for senior housing. Uh so it's gonna be a great addition. I'll move approval.
Second. All right, got a motion and second on C thirty-nine. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passed 5-0. Move on to uh C forty-two for poll. Nikki.
Mr. Chair, um this is uh not to it's really just poll to discuss. My office received the original document this morning. Not enough time to review it, just to ask that. Um when you do approve it, just approve it subject to clerk review.
Okay. So I need a motion.
Move uh C42 subject to uh clerk's review. Second.
And I get a motion on a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion passed 5-0. Move on to C43. Cool? Nikki.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. The same uh similar situation just received the originals today. We just need time to review it. Uh so please um approve subject to clerk review.
Move uh C forty three subject to a re Courts review.
Second.
And the motion is second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion pass 5-0. Move on to C 46.
Alright, uh similar situation. Received the originals this morning, just need time to review. If you could please approve subject to clerk review.
Move uh C forty six subject to clerk review.
Got a motion and second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passed 5-0. Thank you. Move on to uh C5. Pull and revise.
Morning, Mr. Chairman. Niktarius Pitos, Planning Development, Economic Growth. Item C5 is the task order for the villages of Pasadena Hills P Credit Registry, and we are requesting to revise the scope of services currently on the agenda to accommodate updated IT technical requirements. The updated technical retirement requirements are dated September 2nd, 2024, and add an additional 12% increase to the overall cost. So the five-year cost of the item goes from $768,160
to $791,324. There is funding within the BOPH. development, administration, review, liabilities account to cover the increase in cost. And I have the updated IP requirements to submit to the record. Move
to receive
and file.
Second.
Okay. All the subscribers say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passed five zero. Okay.
Chair. Got a
motion.
Go ahead. Just speak this time. C5, you know, Terry and uh Mike. I'm very glad to see this with as VOPH comes online that we make sure everybody who's making significant investment into the project that folks are protected and can make the best financial decision for them. as possible. So I'm I'm I'm glad to see that we're making sure that um you know these credits are managed appropriately. So with that I'll move approval of C five.
Second
Okay,
a motion second for approval. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion passed 5-0. Uh move to C eight.
Pull and revise.
Mr. Baxter. Good morning, board. Andrew Baxter Facilities Management Director. Yes, there is a table on page two of the uh memo and it lists the construction at six million dollars. The all-in total should actually equal twelve million dollars for this entire project. Right now we're just asking for the approval of the design, which is what this memo states, but that uh table is incorrect and needs to be adjusted.
Any questions? Ms. Chairman
Mariano what was the motion? So what would the motion
So all in the total is twelve million dollars on the table?
The whole project.
To
build the library. Mr. says six point five. Mr.
Mary
Adam?
So uh I talked with the county administrator. I was looking at pulling this item myself um for a different reason just to discuss it. When I saw the six million dollars and had staff aware of it, that's why they pulled it for that reason. But Uh you know, coming up we're gonna look at the budget, we're gonna it's in our budget items that are coming up for twelve million dollars. Right. Um at this point with all the things that are going on as far as the the the hurt people feeling, if we delay this project a year or two, might not be a bad thing to get through um some tough times that people are feeling.
So We're gonna be talking about it later on today. So I was gonna pull it just for that discussion. So I don't mind if we continue this for a couple of weeks. Uh go to meet after the meeting, but I think it opens up for the discussion point I was gonna try to bring out anyway. So Harvard Jolly maybe we could look at doing some phasing of the projects. Um I don't know, but anyway. I'm I'm continuing waiting on this one. I don't think is it urgent to do this today? But I think if we have a
budget discussion, I don't want to pull the trigger on this right away.
Mr. Baxter, we have time to do this.
Um so this is the agreement for the design. We could certainly if the concern is really about the cost of the construction, uh we could certainly have that discussion with the design firm. to see about how we could phase that over time. Um but we We would like to move forward with the design at this time which is the right-of-way.
And the only issue I see that you when you when you wait and and times are but people are looking for that library, your citizens and your district are m very much wanting that. The more longer you wait, the more that possibly could cost you. Mm-hmm. So you actually save a certain amount of money by Trying to push forward rather than trying to hold
up,
so
I also think you know if you get if you have design work done and complete it enhances your ability to have shovel ready projects so if additional funding sources were to become available you've got a project. So in other words, spending the a small amount on design, again to Andrew's point, um if the board does have budget concerns, they can address that as as we go. Um as well as having a potentially shovel ready project should grants or other things be available too in the future. It's good to have the design work done is my point.
Okay. All right. I'm gonna move approval but I do and when we do have this I would like to have a discussion with them right at the start. Ten four. Move approval.
So I got a motion.
Commissioner Starkey seconded.
Oh, Mr. Starkey seconded. Thank you. I got a motion to second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passed 5-0. Move on to C20. Withdraw. C38, withdraw. C41, withdraw. Well this is the easy part. C44 withdraw.
Okay, so that takes care of the consent agenda. Yeah.
Now I gotta get my book in the right place. There are no resolutions today.
Yeah.