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Commissioners' requests on signs and best practices

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Jack Mariano

Uh Ms. Mariano. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I've got six copies here, one for every board member, including the county attorney and the clerk. It's a copy of the ordinance that the county had passed back in twenty eleven about signs on during election times for early voting and in in a round. And then the other one was you saw uh Christine Fitzpatrick give us a copy on a screen she showed us. Um I want us all to take a look at this because there's a few things that are going on. First it'll

say that your signs that are in the right-of-way around the county, they cannot be two-sided. They also you can have more than one on any property that's out there. So I will say there's lots of violations going on with that. Now this is completely different from how it's been done for 20 years that I know of. So I don't know how they're interpreting are the interpreting is new or not. I want us all to take a look at it and bring it back for conversation next week because I would like to get the

squared away before the next election. cycle starts ramping up, especially we put signs up.

Mike Carballa

Okay.

Jack Mariano

All right. That's all I have. Mike, I got a copy for you in JP as well.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

Well Mr Chairman M so the They're two separate issues. Exactly. The the resolution is for your pro governing your property.

Jack Mariano

Correct.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

And the sign ordinance is of general applicability to all temporary signs. We do think we may have Come up with a solution that we were gonna bring back in the glitch. We'll be happy to talk about it on the September.

Unidentified speakerVoice B

Right. But I get I get what you're saying if they're the big signs by the road that they're one sided. But those little yard signs, they're they're always double sided.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

I think they mean signs like this. That'll put in a V.

Jack Mariano

Well that's that that would be two signs. That's

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

two signs. I think that's what they mean. I don't think they mean one sign with two faces.

Jack Mariano

And even if you took the four by eight and went back to back on the same piece of wood, that'd be a violation. So but I could say staff is addressing the issue

Ron OakleyChair

and there are gonna be taking care of it and bringing it forward to us to

Jack Mariano

take care of it. So I'm sure all of us would like to talk before we have the next commission meeting too is with us, right? Appreciate it. Thank you. Ms. Darkey?

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Yeah, I ha um since we have half an hour, I had a few things in my club. I don't have a half hour. We don't start till five fifteen. I'm gonna take a break. Well I will too. Um so in Spokane, which is a military town because they have an Air Force base, my uh son-in-law lived there twice. Um They uh They have this wonderful program and at NACO They do a um hey I'm They do um They Achievement awards.

There's all different categories and I hope that we win one one day. But in the Department of Personnel Management, Employment and Training category Spokane did something I think we should copy um Mr. Karbalov. They teamed up with the Department of Defense to offer County Department internships to U.S. military members. Better preparing them for the job force after service and combating county workforce recruitment and retention

issues. And it's a program called Skillbridge. I actually went uh to a military base, I think in Pennsylvania, with a congressman on a tour of workforce training and what the military does. Um And a lot of people coming out of the military have great skills that can tr transition into many of our different departments. And so I think we should look into this skill bridge. And see if we can't help our m military um get some good jobs when they get get out.

Unidentified speakerVoice C

That sounds good.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Uh the second thing is uh something that happened in Wash uh in Clark County. Um oh here I have copy screen guys on on that chip. That's okay. Here if you pass that down. In Clark County I had this one too, so pass this down. Um they adopted an ordinance or ordinance making camping under certain conditions misdemeanors, kind of like what our governor did a little bit here where you can't camp on a sidewalk. But to me they went a little broader. They

said that. Um They can't An ordinance making camping under certain conditions misdemeanors, but eligible for community court, which I don't know if we have a community court. A special court for people with homelessness-related offenses where they can engage with services to have their charges dismissed. It bans camping between 6.30 and 9.30 P.M. on any county road, street, sidewalk, or right-of-way. Any entrance to or exit from any county owned building or parking lot, and

any county owned or maintained building and parking lot, and camping in vehicles during that time frame on county property is also banned. Can't be gone. Public property will not be allowed within two hundred feet of a body of water on land used to operate a public water station, wastewater, or stormwater facility, which happened near me, and they had to shut down the wells because the well got contaminated from them having a you know using that land as a restroom. Um on the county railroad, we

don't have one of those, and then natural areas, and it also Bans unlawful storage of personal property in public places between six thirty and nine thirty. I don't know what that means after number thirty. Anyway, I I thought this idea of a community court. Um so so if we can, you know, get someone who's living on someone else's property into a courtroom and then have services get a hold of them, it could maybe we could help detour some of this and and move

people in another direction than just going to move on someone else's property. So I this was listed as another one of those best practices. So I wanted to bring it to your attention. I drove by that property on 19 again. And there there are people living in the back on that property. And there's still, I have a picture, but I don't there's still all that trash right on the front of US 19. And because it's public private property, we cannot go in and clean them up, clean it up or kick them

out. So they are up to a fifty thousand dollar fine now, because the fine increases daily, but You know, if he plans to abandon that property, what does that mean? That find is nothing to us until it's leaned and we close on that lien. But in the meantime, we have a major, major eyesore and a major road into the county. So restricted.

Ron OakleyChair

The same thing.

Kathryn StarkeyVice Chair

Okay, that's it for me.

Ron OakleyChair

Okay, well that's be it. Anything?