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VOPH stewardship ordinance utility master plan and surcharges

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Ernie Monaco

Okay. Actually there's uh my second item here. I'll be real quick. It's just the the stewardship ordinance from the Land O' Lakes that implements what you just agreed to recommend. Okay. Okay, it's basically there's a lot of clarifications that had to be added to the code incorporating these changes in the comp plan that we've just suggested. I can can I whip through and let me read the ordinance? An ordinance by the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners amending the Pasco County Land Development Code Section 602. J. Ben Harold Villages of Pasadena Hills Stewardship District.

Revisions to text, table, and exhibits 602 data. And 602-D to Chapter 602, J. Ben Harold, Villages of Pasco Hills, Stewardship District. Including the utility master plan and the utility development fees, an addition of the 2020 VOPH master utility plan. and as necessary for internal consistency, providing for applicability, repealer, severability, inclusion into the Land Development Code. And an effective date. Wow, a lot of words there. Okay, phase

Jaimie Girardi

two. Can I stop you? Ernie, Ernie, can I stop you? Act of this ordinance has nothing to do with what you just included. It's unrelated. It it's it's about adopting a master utility plan. And He surcharged four positive hills. So it's unrelated to what you just approved.

Ernie Monaco

Again, go back to the first can I see the ordinance title second, Denise again? Okay, you're s there there were some new exhibits. Uh there was a mobility fee exhibit I think thrown there as well though at the time. That was new, that got put in there. Yeah, it's predominantly yes, it's fa okay, yes. What's David's discreet? Yes, phase two is all about utility master plan. and the surcharge credits, and we're gonna explain that in a few minutes here, uh, that are new. had and I'm implementing this

plan, okay? So yeah, it's it's it's it's think of phase two in this ordinance is predominantly that, okay? Yes. Okay. Okay, so quick summary of the revisions. You have uh utility master plan with proposed new utility master plan with proposed new utility surcharges. You got so there are a table 14 water development fees. These are new. Table 15, wastewater development fees, and appropriately explanar explanatory texts related to the financial impact. tax

okay but just as a note there's no change in the base utility fees and they are not going to be credited and Pasco utilities basically the county utilities department can basically charge the fees as they always do and spend them whenever that wherever they want the only new fees are the surcharges and only those are credible so we're gonna go in like next Okay, so a quick summary, financial plan works just as a reminder. The VOPH financial plan works even if 80% of what we've entitled gets built. Okay?

So there's a cushion in that. The base utility impact fees generated by VOPH continue to be spent by PCU, okay, it's public works, for countywide service needs and not just for VOPH. And no credits can be utilized against the PCU base utility fees. PCU will continue to use its base utility connection fees to provide the treatment plant and other system-wide improvements necessary to provide utility capacity for VOPH. This is really vital to understand this because the utilities department

made it very clear that don't touch the base. These are new fees, and you can do what you want with those. No portion of the counties, but of course, let me go back. The surcharges and all that has to be spent within the borders of VOPH because it's a special district. No portion of the county's base utility connection fees can be allocated to the VOPH master utility transmission lines. Those are the surcharges that are gonna be related to that. One hundred percent funds needed for the transmission mains are raised by the new additional fees called surcharges, which

private developers pay everyone in VOPH are now paying an additional surcharge. And these are the only credits that will be available. in terms of the utilities, okay. I don't want just remember we're only focused on utility issues here. Private developers must carry the cost for the trunk lines and await repayment through the use of their own fee credits for their project or assignment and use of those credits by other future projects pursuant to the V OPH fee credit registries. What's new about V OPH and this element

is we're charging new fees, surcharges Everyone pays those sir those surcharges. It goes into a list in the in a fee credit registry. Whoever comes in first and builds the transmission lines, there's a process that has to be undergo. Verification of the cost, they did it right, the capacity is correct. Let's say it costs 10 million, and it's Mr. Joe Joe, whatever, Simone or something. They put his name up on the top, that he registers that on the fee registry. Okay, now he's already pulled out out $10 million because he's built transmission

lines that just don't only feed his development, but everybody down before him. Let's say he's two miles from where you can normally tap in. This is this is the layman's understanding, which is what I'm trying to explain to you. But Pat will explain this more in detail as we get into this. Okay, so that so what happens then is then how does he get his ten million dollars back? I'm just giving an example of this. How does he get it back? Well the next person that comes in has to pay surcharges, right? The first thing he's got to do, let's say his this guy, the second guy's surcharges are uh to a million dollars, okay? Instead of paying

the surcharges now, he buys those credits from the first developer, and that covers that. So the first developer gets paid back and the surcharges were credited and then that and it keeps going down the line until everybody basically pays for all the for all the infrastructure that goes in the in the system, basically. That's that's the layman's view, okay, about we uh what we're doing. Um let me keep going and then we'll we'll get into more of the details of this. Okay, so V OPH utility budget estimates and the utility surcharge amount is subject to periodic review by the county, which makes

sense because costs go up, right? Uh actual build-out, construction costs, and system requirements will require regular updates and adjustments to the financial plan. Next. The recommended action here, and then this is uh I put this in because utilities made it very Mike Carbell made it very, very clear. Uh he wanted to make sure we all understood this, and let me just read it to you. Recommend approval of the VOPage financial plan revisions that include a 100% of all utility-based development, utility impact fee be consistent with current county processes that allow funds to stay within Pasco

County Utility Department as needed to meet service demands throughout. Throughout the county, I verbally explained that earlier. And B, credits will only be issued for the new proposed utility surcharges, and these surcharges can only be spent to meet service demands in V OPH.

And also to recommend that the property owners group work with the county to create a utility surcharge fee system That includes additional fees that cover all county administration costs for handing for handling any surcharge fees and credits in the credit fee registry before the final approval by the BCC. The final approval is January 26th and we are in process right now working through the system of how the fee credit registry will work. There is additional fees that are being charged, administrative fees, reviewing administrative fees of $400. It

was $200 before this plan, okay, or and now it's been upped. And that out of that, $200 out of the $400 will pay for the reviews that have to happen in current planning. The other $200 is administrative, which will cover the cost of managing the fee credit registry system. So we're in the process of ironing out the details. I've actually met with a bunch of people and departments because there's a lot of people involved in this. I've gotten a lot of input from people. Um it's not finalized yet. It looks pretty much that we're gonna farm out the whole thing to consultants. That's the way it's headed right now.

They the utilities department actually prefers that we do, or that they they didn't want to just own it in a sense in the sense they want to do what they're doing and what they're good at. And they felt the credit registry is something over and above they normally would do, and they would prefer either goes in the planning department's hands or goes into a consultant. And it really makes more sense to have engineers look. This is because they've got to re-evaluate costs, make sure things are fair, make sure capacities are correct, and things like that. It's more than just credits, it's verification and things like that. And we have an entire process charts that have been created that I've been showing people to say this is how

it could could potentially work. But anyway, anyway, the point of making this is this is we're doing this now, and this is what Mike wanted us to make sure that we were doing this. Okay, next. So Go back to the stewardship ordinance. One of the purposes was consistency among documents to ensure what was agreed upon in the utility master plan is added to the LDC stewardship ordinance. It called for additional definitions. You have all this in your in your um packet, basically, under the all the changes in the LDC that's being proposed. I'm just summarizing it. Credits for surcharges, utility departments' abilities,

base fees, fee registry. Next. Then there was um updating the update based on again VOPH utility surcharge allocation table, mobility fee table was put in there, Westwater development fees, wastewater, I'm sorry, water development fees, and the new the revised POG credits. So there's been a series of tables that have to be added to the land development code as well. Next. There are no changes proposed for existing zoning, future land use, and the number of entitlements, residential density, and commercial intensive entitlements. This is important with this. There are no changes

any of that stuff going on there. Proposed land event code text and exhibits implement the revisions to the financial plan, the master roadway plan, and the comm plan amendment for the 2020 update. Pat, I'm gonna have you explain more details. Again, because again, this is your baby. We reviewed it. We're okay with it. We we think we can pull it together, but here if you guys got questions, I think we should Pat should be here to answer those.

Pat Gasway

Great, Ernie. Uh again, Pat Gasway with Height Design representing the property owners group. Um, you know, we've we've been the author of the of the financial plan since its initial adoption and its multiple changes uh over time. Uh I think Ernie's summary is uh is is uh uh although it it can seem confusing, um that the notion is the the current level of um utility

fees that are charged by the Pasco County Utilities Department uh will continue. We're simply adding the obligation of paying surcharges such that we will create funding necessary to implement the master plan that Pasco County has arrived at for the villages of Pasadene Hills. Those surcharges are the only portion of that development fee that is creditable when

a developer invests in infrastructure on behalf of the county. And we've gone through the same type of calculations that we did for the remainder of those fees that were previously adopted in the financial plan. And we're happy to answer any questions that the Planning Commission might have on the implementation of those surcharges or the calculations therefore. Uh uh happy to happy to be available for for any questions you might have.

Jaimie Girardi

Can I ask a question, Pat? Sure. Um, I don't think either Ernie or yourself said the amount of the surcharge. What what is it?

Pat Gasway

I'm

Jaimie Girardi

sorry

Pat Gasway

it's fast. We can't share that way.

Uh Er Ernie, if you would um perhaps uh share my my presentation or at least go to the financial planning slides in the back.

Right. Denise, if you could you you could scroll uh on down that this is ground that we've already plowed. Um

So uh let's see.

Oh here we go. Um Let's see one one or two more up.

There Oh yeah. So keep one. Uh what uh one more slide, one more slide.

Keep going.

Keep going.

Okay. Um this is kind of the punchline. When it comes to the transportation surcharge that previously adopted

$15 higher. If you guys recall, there's been a change in the amount of mobility fees that are charged for multifamily. That has a very minor effect on the financial plan here. There's been no changes.

We here have added a water transmission line surcharge of $1,928 per single family detached unit. We've also added a wastewater transmission line surcharge of $593 per single family detached unit. And um and there's been no change since the adoption in May of that administrative fee where we we increased it from two hundred to four hundred dollars. When

you add all of these surcharges together, you're at $3,477.14 per single family dwelling unit. in the villages of Pasadena Hills. Those surcharges are above and beyond the otherwise suburban Mobility and impact fee that are required.

Jaimie Girardi

So Pat, if you could just I think one more line would be helpful on this slide, which is How that surcharge compares to where we were at the beginning of phase one. Because I still think it's ultimately a reduction from where we started, isn't it?

Pat Gasway

It it is, it is. Um, let's see. Uh unfortunately I don't uh I I don't have that number right in front of me, but I think it's about fifty s it we were originally about sixty five hundred dollars on search arch.

Jaimie Girardi

Okay. Yeah, I'm not suggesting you need the exact number now and just when you go to the board, if you could add one more line. Got it. It talks about how that searcharge compares to where we were at the beginning of all this.

Christopher B. Poole

Okay, great.

Jaimie Girardi

Happy too.

Christopher B. Poole

Yeah, I guess Ernie or Mr. Gassaway just maybe I should know this answer, but without this approval, what happens now? Is there no surcharge left?

Pat Gasway

Yeah, what what happens now is when it when a developer uh needs to make an expansion uh of the county's uh current facilities, uh they have to build those um pieces of infrastructure. and then donate them to the county. And in addition to that, they have to pay the normal water and wastewater utility fees, which at this point are about $3,900

per single family detached unit. Sometimes the the county will uh authorize a uh an upsizing agreement where if the developer builds a line with greater capacity than that which is necessary for just the service of their proposal, uh then they would be reimbursed by the utilities department.

Christopher B. Poole

Okay, so this in essence just basically creates a bank for to there to be credits issued for them to recover some of their money.

Pat Gasway

That's exactly right. It creates the foundation for the ability of a developer to invest in the county's infrastructure and get paid back over time by others that come after them.

Christopher B. Poole

Okay. Very good. Any other questions from up here?

Ernie Monaco

Nope. When I go back to my slides. Thanks, Pat.

Uh yeah, we'll go back to the slides.

Yeah, thank you. Ha ha ha.

Okay. It's the one on the okay. Keep go yeah, next one after this one. Okay, we did that. Okay. As I don't know if Mike Carvalho or or is here, Rob Marin is here. I don't think they are. No, okay. I just I had asked if they wanted to be here to be present to give you their own opinion, but I guess they trust me. So Anyway, here's the recommended action from the LPA. Recommend approval of the phase two revised text table and exhibits to LDC Section 602 VOPH stewardship ordinance to the Board of County Commissioners, including the revised 2020

VOPH financial plan with utility master plan and utility department recommendations. That's

Christopher B. Poole

Okay. Um I guess guess we need to ask is there anybody here to um anybody else here to speak on this item?

Denise

There is no one else here to speak on this item and there is no one at the kiosk to speak on the item, no emails or no letters.

Christopher B. Poole

Okay, we need a motion.

Unidentified speakerVoice A

I'll make a motion that we uh adopt the recommendations for the LPA.

Christopher B. Poole

Mm second.

Okay, a motion by Peter and a second by Chris Poole. Uh no further discussion. Roll call vote.

Clerk

Michael Cox?

Michael J. Cox

Aye.

Clerk

Peter Hansel?

Michael J. Cox

Aye.

Clerk

Christopher Poole?

Michael J. Cox

Aye.

Clerk

Chris Williams?

Christopher B. Poole

Aye.

Clerk

Chairman Girardi.

Christopher B. Poole

Right. Thank you guys.

Ernie Monaco

Thank you.

Christopher B. Poole

Denise, item P five or item seven?

Denise

Let me get to the