board reports Dade City Carers and Orange Belt Trail
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The county’s agenda for Board of County Commissioners, Nov 14, 2023
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Uh no more hours? We are now we're going to do committee reports.
I've got to do mine. I have a motion in here.
So we did all the R.
We continued the other two. We punted too. I got an action. I've got an action item. I
got a long list, so I'm gonna save it.
Are you ready? Well we're gonna save it because you're an action I'm ready.
Good.
Go ahead.
Uh
I would like the board to direct the uh county administrator and county attorney. to take the necessary actions to prepare an agenda item. That will allow the board to assume uh ownership of the Dade City Carers facility and complete its its construction. Furthermore, submit a local funding initiative to the state legislature for $1.3 million to fill the estimated
funding needed to finish the project.
Okay. Do we have a second?
I'll thank you. Commissioner Oakley.
And I do and Commissioner Bradford did a great job hanging in there all night. He has signed off, so I would have a motion second. Call for the vote. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Anything else,
sir? Um well I got plenty, but I mean Aquí está. I'm gonna skip some of this other. But I have a letter I would like the clerk to read in the record from the city of San Antonio.
And that's making it.
I'd bless them.
And that's from the city of San Antonio. Uh commission, council councilperson to that.
Just meeting uh oh I really want to spend what Jake did.
Letters from the City of San Antonio dated September 20th, 2023, regarding opposition to the Green Belt Trail Route B1. Pasco County Commissioners, we the five members of the San Antonio City Commission are writing on behalf of the concerned members of our community to express our strong opposition to the proposed B-1. Route of the Orange Belt Trail within San Antonio. As representatives of over fourteen hundred residents of San Antonio and Pasco County, As well,
it is a necessity for us to do our due diligence in protecting the interest of well-being and well-being of our community. While we appreciate Pasco County's efforts to expand recreational opportunities and promote connectivity, we believe that the proposed B one route. Poses significant drawbacks and concerns for our community. Route B1 of the Orange Belt Trail Route intersects with several residential neighborhoods, leading to concerns of privacy, safety, and noise pollution. The increased
foot and bicycle traffic in these areas may disrupt the crank tranquility and security that residents have long enjoyed in their homes qualities many have sought after and appreciated in their decision to call San Antonio home. Moreover, the potential for increasing Uh increased littering, vandalism, and other undesirable activities along the trail is a worry for many. Residents have approached the city commission with fears of imminent domain Oh.
Mm-hmm.
and discomfort with having a public trail in close proximity to their private homes and yards. Traffic congestion and safety are additional worries associated with the B One route. Sections of the trail would intersect with small residential through streets, including Railroad Avenues, Michigan Avenue. and Joe Herman Drive, creating potential hazards for residents of the streets, trail users, and motorists. The increased number of pedestrians and cyclists on these roads, particularly those intersecting
Curley Street, where traffic and road maintenance is already a major concern would lead to an uptick in accidents endangering lives and property. We believe that the proposed Orange Belt Trail Route does not adequately consider the preferences and needs of our community. There have been limited community engagement and input in the planning process, and we feel that our concerns have not been adequately addressed. Pas of the proposed routes have changed between public meetings with sparse with sparse details available, leading to confusion and uncertainty over who will be directed. impacted
by the project. We urge the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners to undertake a more comprehensive and inclusive community engagement process to ensure that the trail aligns with the wishes and values of our residents.
In conclusion, we firmly request the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners not proceed with selecting Route B one. uh for the Orange Belt Trail within San Antonio. While we are not opposed to the Orange Belt Trail as a project overall, we are strongly opposed to any route that would
of the city of San Antonio's residents through streets. Routes B two and B three, adjacent to State Road 52 and County Road 52. Would have a less significant impact on the San Antonio community and residents. We believe that a more thoughtful and community-driven approach is necessary to address the concerns of residents, protect our environment, and enhance our city's recreational offerings. We look forward to further dialogue and collaboration with the Pasco County Board of County Commissioners to find a solution that benefits our
community as a whole. Thank you for your attention to this matter, respectfully submitted. City Commission of San Antonio, John T. Vogel, the second mayor, Mark B. Anderson, Mayor Pro Tem, Alison Cagle, Parks Commissioner, Kevin
Can't read the last name. It's kind of like a Water Commissioner and Sarah Schrader, Street Commissioner.
Okay.
Commissioner Weightman.
Uh Commissioner Oakley asked me to read this this comment and thought to the board while he stepped out. Jim McBride is retiring from the Value Adjustment Board as a County Citizen Member. He's been on the board for more than 15 years, contributing his insight and time to our community. Commissioner Oakley appreciates his time and commitment to our county, and he will be missed. Commissioner Oakley asks, would the board have any suggestions for replacement for the citizen appointment to value adjustment
board? The citizen, the county citizen member must have homesteaded property in Pasco County.
I don't have any on mind in mind yet, but I I will say echo the sentiments. M Mr Bride did a great job. He was always there, always prepared. Um so it'll be tough to replace.
Man's back.
Okay. Okay. Anything else?
Anything else?
Anything else? No, that's the okay. So we he read the notice that Jim McBride is retiring. He served the value adjustment board very well. We just hope we can find a member to take his place. And if I don't have a member now that I would want to replace it with. So I'm asking if any other commissioner has someone they'd like to do. Put on a value address for me.
Appreciate that. And I will say Mr. Mr. Brad, I served with him for many years. He
was
a fantastic person. Always prepared every step of the way. He's gonna be tough to replace, but I appreciate your information. We'll keep it in the back of the way.
All right, Mr. Starkey.
Um I wanted to talk about this letter here that they both He wrote and Seth's the top big topic of Seth. I did listen to the MPO meeting. I didn't catch it at the very, very beginning about the discussion of the property at 5441.
I wanted to remind you that this week is the FACT Legislative Conference in Tampa where this will be a subject and I'm hoping that we have folks coming down to participate in that discussion. Um I don't know who the speakers are or who the legislators are that are going to be there. Um is Roth is Roth Long gone? No. Oh, really? Do you know who the speaker is? There's a lot of people. For the legend?
I do not I don't know if you're using it right now, but then
What's the when is that?
It's uh well it starts Wednesday. Um
Tampa. Uh starts tomorrow. But I'll be there tomorrow night. But the the big meetings start on th Thursday. Those discussions I believe are on Thursday, right? Is it tomorrow? The there's one committee to my water and something.
Do we have
water? I'm not on that committee.
We have great American teaching appointments tomorrow, but I if if there's something like that on the schedule, I'd like to get
You know, I brought this up at our meeting in the summer when it was recently passed.
So tomorrow's uh agenda Presidential Select Committee on Broadband is at eight thirty. Health Safety and Justice Committee is at ten ten. Then we have our luncheon, FACM workshop, and then water and environmental sustainability is at one. Two hundred forty community and urban affairs.
Oh is it that one? I wasn't I'm not gonna
What time is two uh forty. Two I'll be there for the whole day. Two forty is
Okay, but someone's gotta be there to talk about this.
I'll be there tomorrow afternoon and Thursday as well.
Somewhere.
I plan to go down and I have a tourist element council meeting here tomorrow, as soon as I'm done. I'll be at a
Okay, 'cause I won't I'll be at that too, I won't make it.
Big huge. Okay, so when you're gonna take is Dave is that are we sending anyone like we did for the
So I have a the OPH committee meeting tomorrow. Um so I'm not available
What about David?
I don't know if David Ingalls available or not.
Well again, I I will be there tomorrow afternoon and Thursday. So
we need to very eloquently, like you guys did, thank you so much at our big county mission, whatever we call that. You guys did a great job with that. And
so anybody's welcome to borrow my PowerPoint.
Ship it over to me, David.
Okay. I w I'll get my but the information in that packet is a different issue than what was in the PowerPoint. That's an issue that I wasn't sure if Commissioner Weightman was gonna raise tonight or at the next meeting.
It'll be a long I think
they'll do the
right-of-way.
I think we need to go to
the next meeting.
It's a slightly different issue. Okay.
Just tomorrow's our big opportunity to
get our voice heard from all the other counties about uh challenges we have
are there any other issues you want to brought up there that come to mind
The mark?
The
Um
If you think about it email me.
Yeah. Sorry, can't think.
Okay. All right, uh County Attorney, Madam Clerk.