Permitting stakeholder committee

55:43just as something that I've thought about we've we've talked about for a bit, but our um our permitting issues Does anybody think? That maybe we should put a stakeholder committee together to kind of go, let's go take a look at these issues, bring all the stakeholders in there and let's go find out how we can actually Put a board together kind of what we've done in the past and kind of put some recommendations for for us to go forward?

56:06Anybody want to speak on that? Commissioner Starkey?

56:09Uh well can you be more specific uh You mean for a veteran for for uh leisure lane or

56:16No no this is just is just in general permitting itself. Just permitting permitting itself as far as trying to help people g go through the process. I mean in I I'm sure we're all we're all getting phone calls here and there about different different projects that need to get through and they're getting stuck in permitting and they're looking for help and

56:32uh technology which is improving so well and we are actually taking that step, do we want to go take a look at permitting and try to make those improvements? Because I am hearing from people from chambers on both sides of the county that they want to see this happen.

56:44Well I I I have had um communication with residents that um if they're not used to the process, if it's a sing you know, it's not a developer or a builder. They they have some of them had very difficult times figuring out Um the process, including my sister in law. So I do think we We should have some improvement on the steps you need to take. It should just like a boom boom boom. And I don't know if that needs to be a committee, but

57:14I do want to see that improved.

57:16So m Mr. Chair. Yes, please go ahead, Mr. Boss. Uh yes, Commissioner Yeah Totally understand the concern. I will say that you know, we have a monthly vertical round table that meets that is a public note meter meeting that anyone can attend and that is where we talk about the vertical permitting issues. And so You know, that happens monthly. There is a monthly agenda that we have that exists today. Now, yeah. I will say that if you want to address specific permitting issues and process

57:46issues Let us get through the full phase two implementation where everything is online And then once we have that then I think you'll see a lot of things get simplified. And clarified through the online portal process. And so we are working through that. We are online now with new residential. Home permits. We are working on to getting other permits online as well. And so let us work through that process. Um and as we do that then see where our gaps are and where we need to

58:17attack. But right now we're working through that a cellar phase two process and I will tell you the Feedback I'm getting from the industry, I talked to one of the leading home builders last night and it was Pasco is far away ahead of everybody else in the region with respect to dealing with permitting and inspections through the COVID nineteen process. Uh and so he said it's not even close. And they build throughout the region, so

58:42If I could follow Mr. Chairman

58:44Yes, sir. Let's go ahead and do that.

58:47Let me say this. The the codes we have for like new construction I think are phenomenal. I think we have done a great job with it every step of the way. That is not my issue. As you know, we have had several things with redevelopment, that's the issue. And the code works great for new development. It just struggles with the old. And that's where I want to kinda work on redevelopment issues that we have. uh that that just are tough when you're gonna take a buildings existing and how to go from residential to commercial or even just doing infill that you're gonna try to make it fit. That's that's we have the issue. So it's not You know, I I am fully supportive of

59:17the way we are doing for new new construction. But it just it doesn't work well in redevelopment, and I think we really need to study it. And with I think I I think I can get you a whole bunch of people in a room if we want to say we are going to focus on some redevelopment and we can have a nice ver meeting with that. So if you want we can make redevelopment a topic and we get that word out there, I am happy to make participate in that vertical meeting.

59:36I'll say we can put that on the agenda for the next vertical round table.

59:38Okay. Let's let's go do that and we'll make a little announcement on it too and we'll get some feedback. Appreciate it. That's all I have, sir.

59:47Yeah. Um so um Dan, I I've attended those meetings and both vertical and horizontal, and I think they're great and I agree. I hear that we do the best of any of the counties around. But I think those meetings are attended by um people who are in the profession. And where we run into difficulty is the people who are not our homeowners, who've hired an engineer or an architect to do Something and you know, frequently I find that the builder or or someone has told

1:00:18the homeowner the county's not responding or whatever, and it it turns out it's not the county, but it's the builders who hasn't filed this or that. And but the homeowner is left in the dark and is the one who contacts us because their project has taken forever, and it turns out, well, this feed. wasn't paid and and so um I I had a company come in called Salesforce who has a very, very user friendly um system. Um this is a company that's used throughout

1:00:48the United States in in um in the sales industry, but they also have a government um side to it and they have these websites That can be um uh tailored to the counties that that build on um the platforms that we already have and Uh And one of the things that can be done is that the homeowner or the or the the The person who's hired these people can easily follow and

1:01:18track what's going on. I've been told that Acela will do this. I'm hoping that's true. Um but it is the layman who is the one who really struggles in our system. And I see Todd wanting to talk. Yes,

1:01:31maybe.

1:01:34Todd, just hold on a second. Yes.

1:01:41And that's where I go to get all the information on the cells. So you can do it today. It's pretty straightforward if you know an address or a permit number. So you know that can be done in the

1:01:51Todd.

1:01:53The only people that know about a sellout are professionals. How does so maybe we need to make a requirement that when someone pulls a permit, they have to um give that information to the person paying the bill so they could also know how to track it. I'm just Stop. Go ahead, Todd speaking.

1:02:11Yes. Um Chairman Mariano Todd Bailey, acting assistant county administrator of development services. A couple of uh important items to note here is that prior to COVID nineteen

1:02:22We did have um multiple community meetings set up for SWOT analysis, strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats to review our permitting process and those meetings were canceled. Due to the uh CDC, the Department of Health Guidelines through COVID 19th, and we we desire to reschedule those when we're able to. So those were actually on the schedule in the works and they have been canceled due to COVID. Um in addition to Commissioner Starkey, we are in active conversation with Salesforce, and I have some quotes in front of me, and we are we haven't talked to Claire Burns.

1:02:53So there is active dialogue going on there. Um and It's a budgetary issue at this point going forward and I just wanna make sure you both heard that.

1:03:02Mr. Chairman Mariano.

1:03:07No, it's it's it's uh it's great quite great great dialogue. I mean we're just trying to make our county better as best we can and and and and again to give good response to you know our new building construction and and permitting process. But Todd Todd is a good thing. As far as the vertical meeting that uh Dan's talking about, would you recommend we stick just with that or we go or should we go try to do a big meeting through Zoom or WebEx uh with the SWOT analysis.

1:03:31We we are reaching outside of that, Commissioner. Um we we use the horizontal and vertical for specific um purposes because they're professionals within the industry and we're also reaching out to those homeowners that may also have pertinent issues with the permitting process. So it it's it's both.

1:03:46Okay, so uh when when do you think you'll have the SWAT analysis meetings?

1:03:52Well we keep rescheduling them due to COVID nineteen and the um Department of Health and C D C guidelines as to when we can bring people in for the physical meeting because of the assembly of personnel.

1:04:02Okay. All right. So we'll we we'll wait for that to happen exactly, but I'll I'll go work on the the people want to attend the vertical meeting and I'll get people for that one. So thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman Mari Thank you, Commissioner.